It's crazy that people are still sleeping on cloudstrike, it was putting in WORK during arc-surge in pantheon too. Really hope I'll finally get a crux with recomb+EL someday to use with hazardous propulsion
Let us remember that Lost Signal can roll with High Ground, a perk that against the Witness, is always activated x3, giving us a 25% damage boost instead of the 15% that Vorpal provides. I believe that this would be the perfect combination for Cloudstrike and an Arc heavy. Great vid btw
@@lazykb yeah I've been trying to get it for months, closest I got was clown surrounded which is what I used for pantheon, but the sheer joy I felt at getting that roll
It depends basically for the most damage its Crux if theres gjally, Wendi if not, but wendigo is also much riskier on witness where you can easily blow yourself up in the chaos, even at no fault of your own with Captain projectiles being physical for some god forsaken reason. And EL Wendigo is not it would use Crux always
Any reason you don't mention Edge Transit and instead recommend Arc options? I was under the impression it was still a top dog option with Cascade/Envious + B&S
@@LeZagna edge is very good but currently the meta outside of hunter has very weak reload assistance, and there isn't any strong void snipers to pair with edge. And Supremecy doesn't keep up with energy matching options anymore without the kinetic element advantage. So really it comes down to yes Edge beats Wendigo, but no Supremecy Edge doesn't beat Cloudstrike Wendigo
@@lazykb Rain of Fire tho? That's what I've been using since I also get the weaken buffing void weapons artifact mod. Getting the weaken is the hard part, but very plausible in a non-solo setting. I'll still have to look out for Wendigo when it comes back around for the matching surges. Nice vid btw
@@LeZagna yeah rain of Fire is good. But especially on Witness total damage becomes a lot more key, and someone has to apply that weaken to run ROF which is something a pris warlock can do. ROF is very good. My build here was pretty much an army of one setup allowing you to radiant and weaken by yourself, in addition to good damage. But between the harder scaling of raid bosses, and the lengthy witness damage phase, total damage has become a more important factor than before
@@Ortez02 it doesn't fill the roll of a sniper which is normally as a supporting weapon to a heavy. Which Cloudstrike excels in. Whisper is okay but it's at best extremely boss dependent
@@Sudden-Death 1 to 1 it's worse. But when paired with a bursty heavy in a rotation it's quite a bit better. And it's MUCH more forgiving. Which is important in witness, being it an encounter designed to break your focus during the DPS phase
@@momoirobara959 what? Ohhhh you are one of those clueless players who thinks expanding abyss matters in the artifact. Haha. Yea so let me help you here expanding abyss doesn’t do much. It simply raises the value of weaken. It takes 15% weaken(smoke bomb, void nades) and raises it to 25% It also takes 30% weaken(tether, tractor) and raises it to 35% so at absolute max nova bomb is getting 5% more. That’s it. Right now without the artifact a nova with feast of light x6, facet of courage and a standard 30% weaken deals a little over 1.1 million. Expanding abyss raises it to a bit over 1.2 million. So before you continue to sound stupid I suggest you go do some research and realize how nova bomb will continue to be the top burst super forever until bungie decides to buff or nerf things. The artifact mod is completely irrelevant.
It's crazy that people are still sleeping on cloudstrike, it was putting in WORK during arc-surge in pantheon too. Really hope I'll finally get a crux with recomb+EL someday to use with hazardous propulsion
Its kinda crazy. Hopefully the numbers I showed shutdown people saying hunterless still hunt is better lol
ugh you and me both, ive been grindin for that damn crux. ive gotten all the other god rolls (slide/surrounded, slide/EL, clown/EL) but no recomb/EL!
No it really wasnt my team tried it who ever used it was at the bottom of dmg every time
bro im tryna get cloudstrike still
Let us remember that Lost Signal can roll with High Ground, a perk that against the Witness, is always activated x3, giving us a 25% damage boost instead of the 15% that Vorpal provides. I believe that this would be the perfect combination for Cloudstrike and an Arc heavy. Great vid btw
ikelos sniper feels crazy good with the artifact perks and then ya can still use Whisper of the Goat and mountaintop for swap/ extra button shot
@@xensley idk whispers not a great rotation gun. It's just a shoot the gun gun. But yeah Ikelos is prob decent
@@lazykb Distant tumulus is the best sniper in the game for DPS but I believe either irukanji or ikelos has the highest total
@@lazykb yeah more like shoot whisper, then when you run out of ammo switch to ikelos sniper
@@Darkoaizdistant tumulus feels like shit tho lmao & ikelos both feels, looks, & performs incredibly in all cases
Cloudstrike is my baby. Thanks for giving it love. I wish they didn't nerf it so hard, in pvp at least. I don't use it much in pve.
Anotherrrrr personal attack. If you wanna fight, just square up them LazyDukes.
Everyone pray for Lazy. He was forced to talk about Microcosm
@@sweep_swoop I'm still in the hospital
Simp Hunt Simp Hawk combo.
Got the clown ep cruz recently (has reco too), was the push that got me to farm this finally
@@abyssosque I want that roll damn
@@lazykb yeah I've been trying to get it for months, closest I got was clown surrounded which is what I used for pantheon, but the sheer joy I felt at getting that roll
Would you recommend pairing it with ALH + explosive light/cascade point wendigo or recon+explosive light crux termination
It depends basically for the most damage its Crux if theres gjally, Wendi if not, but wendigo is also much riskier on witness where you can easily blow yourself up in the chaos, even at no fault of your own with Captain projectiles being physical for some god forsaken reason. And EL Wendigo is not it would use Crux always
Any reason you don't mention Edge Transit and instead recommend Arc options? I was under the impression it was still a top dog option with Cascade/Envious + B&S
@@LeZagna edge is very good but currently the meta outside of hunter has very weak reload assistance, and there isn't any strong void snipers to pair with edge. And Supremecy doesn't keep up with energy matching options anymore without the kinetic element advantage. So really it comes down to yes Edge beats Wendigo, but no Supremecy Edge doesn't beat Cloudstrike Wendigo
@@lazykb Rain of Fire tho? That's what I've been using since I also get the weaken buffing void weapons artifact mod. Getting the weaken is the hard part, but very plausible in a non-solo setting.
I'll still have to look out for Wendigo when it comes back around for the matching surges. Nice vid btw
@@LeZagna yeah rain of Fire is good. But especially on Witness total damage becomes a lot more key, and someone has to apply that weaken to run ROF which is something a pris warlock can do. ROF is very good. My build here was pretty much an army of one setup allowing you to radiant and weaken by yourself, in addition to good damage. But between the harder scaling of raid bosses, and the lengthy witness damage phase, total damage has become a more important factor than before
@@lazykbis the pale heart void sniper not good enough? it comes with rewind rounds and high ground "embraced identity"
@@NFZKAZE worst possible frame, bad damage perk. Even if we had a perfect legendary none of them hold a torch to Cloudstrike
Can you do a build vid for your warlock raid
I think whisper is the new king imo.
@@Ortez02 it doesn't fill the roll of a sniper which is normally as a supporting weapon to a heavy. Which Cloudstrike excels in. Whisper is okay but it's at best extremely boss dependent
I hate how good this is cause i cant use Forerunner in my primary slot since i got this sniper rifle.
I don't think that you ever really need forunner and Cloudstrike at the same time tho
@@lazykb True. But as a Halo 1 fan from back in the Xbox OG days, the Forerunner is easily my favorite gun in the game.
@@itchyisvegeta I'm glad it's actually useful on some situations too. It deserves it for sure. I was a Halo kid too
@@lazykb Especially on Gambit when invading the opposing team.
What would be recommended more with cloudstriker I have
Crux recon explosive
Wendigo auto explosive
Wendigo Clown Cascade
@@TheCopyNinjaRF probably just the Cruz
great video
@@Daniel-eye great comment
Just use whisper and a legendary solar sniper. Boom
@@bartoniuskrunk2366 less DPS and harder to see Witness attacks to dodge which then requires team coordination as well which many teams don't have
whisper mid for DPS king at total damage tho
GL loose most of their damage when you aim at the heart of the witness aim lower like way lower look at solo finals stands to get an idea
Cascade point wendigo could be a solid heavy pairing
@@chall7927 I said that in the video
How does it compare to whisper though? 😅
@@Sudden-Death 1 to 1 it's worse. But when paired with a bursty heavy in a rotation it's quite a bit better. And it's MUCH more forgiving. Which is important in witness, being it an encounter designed to break your focus during the DPS phase
But is there a arc rocket that is better then apex predator?
@@reapzf8038 I mean I talked about that in the video so
Crux is pretty on par pretty good
no damage numbers at the end of the phase? i’m calling cap
@@MeatyTundra bait used to be believable
bait
Pre-nerf it was Celestial Hunt > Cloudstrike > 3 shot hunt. After nerf it is Cloudstrike > Celestial Hunt > 3 shot hunt.
@@nonerighteous no it isn't. I posted the numbers in the video. Celestial hunt is still the best
Star eater nova with cloud strike and bait/switch edge transit is literally god tier. Hunter is pretty much only good for the witness that’s it
You're still at the same thing lmao. You're at least closer to being right now that Hunter's were nerfed with Still Hunt.
bro yap even here 💀
@@momoirobara959 I know I’m right lmao
@TargetSniper365 You were wrong before but now sure until the end of this season when Nova doesn't fo a ton of damage anymore.
@@momoirobara959 what? Ohhhh you are one of those clueless players who thinks expanding abyss matters in the artifact. Haha.
Yea so let me help you here expanding abyss doesn’t do much. It simply raises the value of weaken. It takes 15% weaken(smoke bomb, void nades) and raises it to 25%
It also takes 30% weaken(tether, tractor) and raises it to 35% so at absolute max nova bomb is getting 5% more. That’s it.
Right now without the artifact a nova with feast of light x6, facet of courage and a standard 30% weaken deals a little over 1.1 million. Expanding abyss raises it to a bit over 1.2 million. So before you continue to sound stupid I suggest you go do some research and realize how nova bomb will continue to be the top burst super forever until bungie decides to buff or nerf things. The artifact mod is completely irrelevant.
Hunters tryna cope that Cloudstrike does more dps than still hunt nighthawk. Nighthawk still hunt is dead.