Preventing Gemini Die Cut Machine Plate Warping
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- Tips for preventing plate warping with the Gemini Junior Die Cutting Machine.
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My magnetic mat looked like the Rocky mountains so feeling I had nothing to loose I covered it with a damp washcloth and ironed it. Once warm I set a the flat plastic shim on top and let it cool. It was AMAZING! Now it's nice and flat.
Ooo! I will have to try this! I have purchased 4 plastic shims in 6 months! (GEM II) Yes i turned and flipped.
Many years ago when I first got my Cuttlebug, I was dismayed at the way the dies cut the surface of the cutting plates, and of course, thereby warping them. So I took some fabric from an upholstery job and laid it on the cutting plate under my paper and die before running them through the machine. This has always worked perfectly for me - I have replaced the fabric several times, but the cutting plates have stayed unwarped for 12-15 years. I have a Gemini (the large one) also and have used the same fabric technique with it and have had zero problems. (I'm the child of depression era parents who always tried to make things last as long as possible!)
I will need to try this! Thank you for the suggestion.
Sweet Sarah what a great tip. Thank you
Going to try this. TFS
I had troubles once & used a folded (in half) old, thin washcloth. I used it often for a while...then i washed it & life moved on. I'd forgotten how much I liked its performance. Thank you!
Hi! So the fabric you are using to protect the plates are thicker upholstery fabric rather than just thin cotton right? I would love to try this technique and wanted to make sure. You are cutting into the fabric/clear plate side, correct? Sorry, I am new to die cutting so still have questions. Thanks! :)
My plates were quite warped. I used my heat gun on them and they straightened out quite nicely
What the electronic machine manufacturers need to do is to design a machine that has a pressure
sensing system that allows you to tell the machine what you are putting through it, so the pressure can be adjusted internally by the press of a button obviating the need for multiple plates and sandwich combinations. There could be choices for regular die, extra thin dies, multiple piece dies, background die, intricate die, embossing
Look up the "Crossover" machine. It is adjustable.
Jennifer, I have been researching this problem for 2 years. This is the best so,union by far. Thank you for all the time you have spent researching this. You have just saved your fellow paper crafters a ton of money in the long run. In under 3 years, I have replaced my clear cutting plates 6 times, plastic shim, 5 times, magnetic shim, 3x, and the metal plate 2x. I do not die cut every day but many times a week, I am probably an average user. From the bottom of my heart, thank you so very much, your a doll. Tfs, Hugs n Blessings. Be safe this 4th of July weekend. ❤️💛💚💙💜.
Not going to lie. When you said, "I break the rules," I thought you were going to do something crazy like show yourself going 36 MPH in a 35 MPH zone! I'm relieved. ;)
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Thank you SO much Jennifer! All die cutting machines should come with the self-healing mats. Just saying.
Hi Jennifer. I watched this video when it came out, but have only just had time to try it out and it was amazing and so much fun too! I am one of those people who is trying not to spend too much this year and this technique has really been such a help. It was also so much fun as i watched the plates return to nearly new!!! Many thanks for your engineering know how. I really like your teaching style and your encouragement to use our supplies in more than one way, and your clear instructions. You really bring joy to my life through craft and you model kindness in your videos.
I broke the rules too: I took the Precisions Plate of my old BigShot instead the Gemini Plates in the middle of the Acryl Plates - wonderful results for a long time ...
My goodness... I have the BigKick, Gemini Go and Gemini Junior....what an amazing share from you. This actually worked AND, I don't have to sit here and play with the plates anymore - they are taped and ready to just add my die and paper - THANKS SO SO MUCH!!
This is a wonderful , helpful tutorial.
But, why don't they manufacture a product that doesn't require all this monkeying around and breaking the rules in order to use it successfully?
well, they designed it to work differently. i just use it wrong :)
I have been using a Dollar Tree self healing mat (they are the only ones I could find that were the perfect size) in my Empress for the last 6 months. Clear plate/self healing mat/clear plate on top is my sandwich and my plates still look like they are brand new and no warping whatsoever. The self healing mat is warping but I am thinking that because of its material composition, it takes the brunt of the pressure. But... for a dollar, I don’t mind replacing!
Mary Van Leeuwen Thank you for this tip!
I’ve been doing this, too. Sometimes the die doesn’t cut through as well as it does with the normal cutting plate. The mat is stretching and warping quite a bit after not too much use. Is there any way you can flatten it again?
Jennifer, this is the best tutorial I have ever watched. I have had my Gemini Jr. for 6 months and have had to purchase new plates 3 times already. Your change really works. Thank you very much
Jennifer, I have also been breaking the rules. I never let my dies back up to the magnetic shim because they just destroy it. I also find the embossing mat to be useless because it's so very thin and always ends up cut. I keep my old standby Cuttlebug and it's rubber mat (substantial!) to do any embossing with dies. I have the original Gemini, but run the jr plates through sideways. No need for 2 machines. In fact, when my original plates warped I cut them in half with scissors and a jig saw, clamped them together in two bundles under a heavy weight, and managed to get some more use out of them. I made sure to tape all edges of the metal shim...sharp edges are painful! My Gemini has saved me a lot of pain as I await a total shoulder replacement when the Covid-19 situation changes. It does a beautiful job and I am glad I made the investment.
thank you for the tip to emboss with Cuttlebug. I still have it and love it but my hands are not so great anymore with the turning for long periods. Good luck with your surgery and take it slow afterward. All will be well.
UPDATE:
---- I have heard a lot that you should use the Gemini with the die at the top of the stack (so the clear cutting plate that you cut into is on top and the cutting edge of die is facing up. Apparently, this is the way the Gemini is designed, and doing this prevents some warping. i haven't noticed a difference doing this. BUT you can do with my DIY plate trick - just do the sandwich and flip it before putting in machine!
---- People are asking how to prevent cutting line indentations from the plate on your cardstock. with my methods, the messy cutting line indentations will be on the back of your cardstock. every time.
---- When I want to do an embossing folder with my machine, I have an extra plate so I can do that sandwich instead. I always have extra plates on hand anyway :)
---- Sorry I am not sure about sandwiches with the Sizzix machines. I no longer own any.
---- If you have the old black magnetic shim you can still do my DIY plate trick.
---- For the larger gemini, i am not sure you can use the self healing plate. i am afraid to try it. what you can do is use the smaller 6x9 plates and put them through side ways. i do that a lot.
Use a small self healing cutting mat to prevent the damage to the plate. There have been videos of this method for years.
Jennifer McGuire Ink I have used a self healing mat that I cut down just a little bit smaller then the cutting plates in my big Gemini and it works fine no warping of the clear cutting plates but the self mat does warp over time. Mind you my self healing mat was old and I was able to cut it because it was thinner and more flexible. So I don’t know how it works with the more rigid self healing mat.
So I've heard people swear using the plates what they call the "European way" helps with warping. All that means is withe the cutting side down 🤣 if you watch any Crafter's Companion lives, pretty much everyone does it that way as a result of filming. I have the big Gemini, I make sure to cut in different spots on the plates, rotate and I think I'm 50/50 cutting face up/down. I think the big Daddy Gemini doesn't warp as much as the Jr 🤷🏼♀️ I'm am interested in this iCraft self mending mat. Thanks for sharing that. I think I'm going to try it on big Daddy 🤩
Jennifer McGuire Ink thanks a bunch for the updates. I tried the self healing mat and did it side ways with the big one like the smaller plates of the Gemini jr and it worked. I’m forgetful so the plate that I use for the dies facing down I marked one side with the #1 and the other side with a #2, so I don’t forget to flip the plate. It’s working pretty good.
Hi Jennifer,
I have had my Gemini Junior for a little over 4 years now and love it. Thanks for showing your tips on the warping plates and I would never have thought of tapping the plates together. That is an awesome tip. Will try all your suggestions. My Gemini Junior cuts intricate dies just great and I have quite a few of the Crafters Companion Metal Dies and Anna Griffin dies also that go through the Gemini Junior just fine. Thanks again for the great tips! 😊😷
Just a note...Simon is out of the self healing mat (shock!) but I-craft still has them on their website for $20.99. Many self healing mats, 6x8 or 6x9, are available on the market for less. I think mine's an Olfa and I love it! Just remember to adjust your sandwich accordingly. I've been taping my "sandwich" together a long time but had to omit the magnetic shim bc they DO grow! I've done without as I don't like the fuzzy edge they developed. Never had her clever idea of cutting it down to begin with. Jennifer, as always, is right! This is a game changer! Thank you, Jennifer, for all you do :)
in defense of simon, they bought as many as they could - TONS - and they simply sold out.
@@jennifermcguireink I meant no offense toward Simon, I'm a long time fan and customer. My feigned shock was that soo many people wanted the mat and bought them up. I RARELY post anything but wanted to share a source to find it and to support your ideas. The struggle is real and I always look forward to your next "best idea ever"! I don't know how you keep doing, I'll just be grateful you do :)
I have a Gemini Jr and I hate it!! After a few passes the plates were warped! I think I might give it a go with your “rule breaking” Ingenuity! Thanks for another valuable tutorial!
Thank you so much for this tutorial I was getting fed up with my plates warping
TY - fantastic - love working smarter ... rules are a barrier to that sometimes!
Thank you so much, Jennifer, for figuring out how to solve these irksome cutting plate issues so we don’t have to. I can’t begin to tell you how frustrated I have become with the speed at which my acrylic cutting plates have warped terribly after only a few uses. I also flip and rotate them as has been suggested for years by career paper crafters and TH-cam vloggers like yourself, but that doesn’t work nearly so well as it use to. I highly suspect that Sizzix has changed the material composition of this consumable in order to cause crafters to have to replace them more often. The thought that they might have done so really upsets me because they aren’t cheap, and our landfills don’t need ever more plastic Waste. I am convinced they could come up with a durable self-healing option for their machines, but long term profits are likely best realized when consumers have to replace their proprietary cutting plates more and more frequently. It doesn’t make me think highly of them, because environmental responsibility is becoming more important to me, and I don’t like feeling duped. Have you tried the I-Crafter self-healing cutting pads in the Sizzix Big Shot machines? If so, how does it work?
--- Sorry I am not sure about sandwiches with the Sizzix machines. I no longer own any.
I don’t use the magnetic or plastic plates. I use three cutting plates and everything works fine. One is always on top and the cutting plate I put in the middle of the sandwich with another clear one on bottom
Tip for straightening the top and bottom plates: put them in very hot water with something heavy on top and let them sit for a while.
I did this as well and all the little paper bits swell and come out of the die cut grooves. My plate looks almost new!
Sizzix percision base plate and two sizzix cutting plates, best sandwich ever. Very low warping, lasts much longer.
In the Gemini Jr? @Loretta Rodger
Jennifer, bless your ingenuity. It nearly made me cry how quickly the plates bowed and scratched. After only 5 or six uses. I was really frustrated ... I love my tools to be pristine... I’ve used an Olga mat in my cuttlebug and it works great ... Thank you as always 💐
Oooh! Can you share the details?
All die cut machines cut into the plates in order to work and will end up massively scratched. I used my first plate for an eternity before replacing and it was scratched and warped and still worked! You are also supposed to rotate and flip each pass
I agree! I splurged on the full-size Gemini and after a very few uses, the magnetic shim rippled terribly and got caught in the machine. I thought I had ruined it. (I didn't.) It has been sitting in my closet ever since.
When I get new plates, I put four small labels on it: in the top left-hand corner for each orientation, and number them 1, 2, 3, 4. When I use them, I just have to remember which number is visible, and change it for each use. (I have considered putting a magnetic plaque somewhere, with the numbers marked, to show which is next, but I'm not sure I would remember to change it!)
Crafty Pam I’ve labeled my plates and shims, too, connecting it to the date. Since I generally die cut something each day, it helps a little.
I have been very disappointed in the way the GJ plates don't hold up so I am very thankful to have these tips . The machine itself is a very good cutter. I have found I have had to break the rules lots when using other products because not all dies, embossing folders and the like work in the same sandwich for any die cutting machine.
I am always amazed when listening to your videos. I switched to a Gemini Junior after no longer being able to get new plates for my beloved Cuttlebug. I love your taping plates together idea. Thank you so much for sharing.
I am a chronic cutting plate abuser - I've managed to warp most plates on most of the machines I have (I have everything from the cuttlebug & wizard on up!). But after seeing this video and reading some of the awesome suggestions - I will definitely change the way I am die cutting. I have the "Big Daddy" Gemini, and I am going to try these ideas out on it. Much thanks to everyone - I will be attending cutting plate rehab now!
Check out the newer video that I just did. More tips for flattening out your plates!
Great video, thank you. I agree that this is a great machine so I tried many things when I found that my cutting plate and magnetic shim were unusable after only three weeks. I actually damaged my machine with a rigidly bowed cutting plate - it makes a terrible noise but still works well! When that happened, I decided I had to do something else. I solved the problem by swapping the magnetic shim for an XCut magnetic shim (€3.50 for a pack of 4) and the top cutting plate for a Big Shot cutting plate. A clear Gemini Junior plate is still at the bottom of my sandwich. I added the metal shim and a piece of card as permanent extras under the plastic shim. It's working wonderfully again and cutting perfectly 😅
Say Jennifer I like your ideas. I found that the plastic shim was terrible, so what I did was replaced that shim with the top plate of my Gemini Foiling machine. I found it works fantastic and it doesn’t warp. I haven’t needed to use the magnetic shim as the first time I used it I cit it in half and haven’t bought another. Thanks for all the tips and breaking the rules.
I wish I had seen this video before using my gemini (the original one) the first time. I used it exactly as the instructions said and both the clear cutting plate and magnetic shim both came out extremely warped! Next time I get a new papercrafting tool, I'm looking to see if you have any instructional videos about them first! Thanks for this very helpful video. Sending thanks to my friend Cyndi who told me about your video.
I am so happy you addressed the self healing cutting plate because I didn't know how to really use it with the Gemini. Thank you so much and I am so sorry for your loss.
This is JUST what I needed to see! Thank you Jennifer!
Thank you. I have the Gemini Jr. and loved you tips.
Thank you for an informative video and I fully understand why you 'break the rules' to get the most out of your financial outlay. Although I only have a manual machine (other brand, too!) for occasional use, plate warping is an issue. I've played around with the various 'sandwiches' and turning the plates seems to be one of the more successful actions for me. However, like in the comment from Crowharp, I have to ask why don't all the manufacturers make non-warping plates? I can only conclude that, having sold expensive machines they have to continue to make an income from replacement parts. I also don't understand why the manufacturers don't give the very best advice in their instruction leaflets so that plate warping/shim stretching is less of issue.
Great suggestions. Thank you! I’ve broken the rules too and I replaced the top cutting plate with regular self healing cutting mats- this was a suggestion from another TH-camr, Felicia from Bible Scraps, who also experimented like you. The self healing mats are much cheaper to replace for me as original replacements for the Gemini aren’t available here in Hong Kong and have to be ordered from overseas and are quite pricey. I haven’t had any issues either and die cutting has worked fine. I’ll have to try the i-Crafter mats you recommend - I think they might be better than the normal self healing cutting mats. Thanks again for the great info!
Someone recommended adding small self healing mat to andwich yoprevent cutting actual plate. That works a dream. But I also noticed less warping too.
I thought my Gemini was broken, then I found this et voila my machine is working fine. Yes the magnetic shim had stretched but I also found the plastic shim was slightly larger than the clear plates, so with a little bit of pressure I managed to cut this down too! One PERFECT MACHINE again- wish I’d seen this 3 yrs ago!! Thank you great simple idea that works brilliantly...x
Thank you for covering this!
Whew! Thanks for taking the time to work this out. Great video.
Thank you so much, just tried it and worked beautifully
Thank you so much Jennifer!! I am doing my DYI plate now!!!
Thanks Jennifer. I bought a Gemini Jr because of my arthritis. I gave up on my Gemini Jr because of the plates and purchased a new Sizzix machine that is powered. My Sizzix plates are holding up a lot better. Maybe I will take Jr out and try it again. Luckily I saved it for vacations.
Thank you much for making this video!!! I appreciate ALL that you do!!!! ❤️
Thank you Jennifer for the great ideas!
I just tried your taped together Gemini plates on the “ Altenew just leaves die set “ again, I have to say on my Gemini Jr your sandwich it still leaves a few place that just don’t cut completely through. But I have found a great sandwich, I use the spellbinders white plate ( it never warps) on the bottom, then the cardstock, the die, the Gemini jr metal plate and on top the Sizzix clear plate. I flip the sandwich about every other time I cut with it. It works beautiful, always cuts through the card stock and never warps. I have purchased an extra package of the Spellbinders plates.
great tutorial.......loved all the info........thanks Jennifer..............pat
This is a game changer! Thanks so much Jennifer!
I love the icrafter self healing mat!
Thankyou for a very informative and interesting video Jennifer.
So helpful, Jennifer! Thank you! 💛😘
So very thorough and helpful. For sure I’ll be trying the diy method. Thank you.
I am for sure going to try this. Thanks.
"I didn't break any rules in high school..." Hahaha! Total rule follower, here! But I will give it a go :-)
Awesome video. Love that self healing cutting plate. 😍
I followed your directions and this works great. I had stopped using my Gemini because of the warping. Now I am loving it. Thanks.
Thank you, I like the idea of joining the plates and cutting the edges. This is very helpful
Thank you so much for all you teach us. You are so great and I just love you.
Yay. Great info. And I just got new plates and shims for the Gemini.
Great,helpful video Jennifer.I tape my plates together as well.Thank you so much.
I find your tips so helpful, so thanks for sharing! I'm heading over to that self-healing cutting deck now!
I bought the mini Go Gemini.
Powerful little machine, love it
Thank you for sharing your ideas. You are awesome.
I would just like to THANK everyone who has kindly shared their tips!! I truly appreciate everyone’s input!! I’m sure this will be one of my best videos I will certainly view over and over!!
LOVE!!!! thanks so much for all your tips. They help so much
just tried this and it works great, thank you so much!!!!
I'm a relatively new card maker and love your insights and helpful hints. Thanks
Thank you, thank you for this video!!! I have the junior and have been struggling with the sandwich so this is a huge help!!
Thanks Jennifer! I had no idea that there was a new magnetic plate
My clear cutting plates on the Gemini actually broke! They warped very badly from the first use and after a few months it actually broke. Rediculous. I did rotate & follow the instructions by the way
One of my clear plates broke, too. The noise scared the heart out of me. I believe I used the wrong sandwich. Unfortunately, the machine didn't detect that the sandwich was too thick and kick it back out as they advertise. I'm finding that I reach for my old Cuddlebug to keep from having to fuss with plates. A sad state.
pink25poppies1 Mine too. Two of them actually cracked!
Thank you for sharing these ideas, it was very helpful.
This video deserves a subscribe! Absolutely going to try this and the fabric tip.
Thank you for answering me!!! I appreciate it.
Great ideas, Jennifer! Any ways that we can extend the life of our tools is so helpful! Thank you!!
Cant wait to try this! Thank you so much!
bought new gemini jr materials per your advice = YOU ARE FANTASTIC. Thank you so much!!
Hey Jennifer...you're such a dear for sharing this....I for one will be using your DIY sandwich. Much appreciated!
Thank you for this video! It'll come in handy!
This is genius, it works beautifully!!
Perfect timing, Jennifer! Today is my birthday and got the Gemini Jr. Thanks for your tips and "breaking the rules" to keep us all crafting!
I am so appreciative that you did this video. It is so helpful and clearly explained and demonstrated! Thank you for helping me solve a frustration with die cutting!
Thank you so much for the valuable information.
Thank you so very much for this. I recently purchased a Gemini Junior so this information is very timely. Thanks for sharing.
Jennifer this was so helpful. I have been trimming the black magnetic shim when it stretched for a while now. I'm going to try this new 'break the rules' sandwich. I also run my clear plates under my 'instant hot' in the kitchen to clean them and have found this will also flatten them. Happy 4th!
I am curious about your suggestion, but can you please clarify what you mean when you say "I also run my clear plates under my 'instant hot' in the kitchen"? I assume you're referring to the Instant Pot, and that you're using the heat generated by the steam to clean and flatten your plates, but what exactly do you mean by "running it _under_ the instant pot"??? Do you literally put the plates inside the pot with water inside, then place the lid on, seal it and actually set it to a pressure cook function? Or did you mean that you are literally just placing the plates _underneath_ the instant pot, and only just using the _weight_ of the instant pot to flatten the plates???
I assume she means the temperature coming out of the faucet of on demand hot water tank. I may be wrong but I would never put the plates in the Instant pot. I have used the kettle to heat water, put the plug in the sink and pour hot water over, ESPECIALLY on my magic mats. Cleans, flattens, heals, = perfection. Gets nice and clean & flat.
Thank You Jennifer for your reply. Happy 4th! 😊
Great info Jennifer ! I received the Jr. as a Christmas gift and had only used it a few times and the plates warped like no body's business. I contacted Gemini and at first they said it was the dies I was using - like huh? I don't just use Gemini dies so that was a lame answer. They were good in sending replacements (although the first replacement was 12" plates), but finally the correct ones arrived. Now I broke the rules too. I use a precision plate as the bottom plate and then used cardboard shims as I was still afraid of their products warping. Now that I have the Jennifer DIY I will pull out all the new Gemini plates and try it your way. I'll be on the watch too for that self healing mat. Thanks again - your videos are always the best.
Thank you so much Jennifer. I just purchased the Jr. after saving up for awhile. Helping to make the plates last longer is so helpful. 👏
Great tips!! I’ve had so many issues with warping! I’m taping my plates together TODAY!! 😊
Thank you Jennifer! So helpful!
Thank you so much! I am spending WAY too much on replacement plates!
I needed this video approximately 2.5 weeks ago before I sent my Jr back. Great cutting results. Plate cracked in half after 10 days of use. 😫
I have a different electronic die cutting machine (AG) and the magnetic plate had warped terribly from stretching. I had made release cuts along the sides which helped, but never thought to use a guillotine cutter to take off the edge. It worked so well, so I did my old Cuttlebug magnet also. I have new clear plates which I am babying to keep flat. Tried the oven thing==disaster. Had to get new ones. Thank you so much for your engineering mind to solve these problems. You are the best!!!! Pixie
This is the best idea! I was so upset when the original plate got warped so fast! Thank you so much
Thank you so much for your tips on making us stretch the use of our products! The warping drove me up the walls.
Thank you very much. I had my plates taped together from your original sandwich. I will definitely try this new one. Thank you thank you thank you.
Thank you! I have the Gemini and warping is my main issue. Thanks for update for using embossing folders
Thank you so much for this information. My children just got me the reg Gemini for my birthday and this will help me a lot!
Thanks for this, Jennifer! I had heard someone during the many creativation posts say something about a self--healing cutting mat, & I've been on the edge of my seat ever since, waiting to learn more. I'm going to have to check this out.
Can't thank Cathy Z enough for linking this video. I've gone through many plates and mats. Looking forward to using this method.
So helpful. I just tore my new magnetic shin but have the self healing one. This saves me.