Professor Green interview (2018) on white working classes
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- Channel 4 News talks to the award winning rapper Professor Green aka Pro Green - who has a documentary on white working class men - about why they're failing to engage with the education system. Are they in danger of ending up ignored, bored and left behind - and what's the answer?
Professor Green is a multi millionaire he doesn’t have to do any of this but he is doing it for the people on the streets who haven’t got the power of voice like he does. He remembers where he came from and wants to help them. Good on him man.
Its a sad time in the UK with no political representation for the working class
Triggered Tycho they're too busy representing people who want to fuckin destroy white culture, white religion, white law and the rest. I should really have said British instead of white.
why identify?
I don't listen to his music, but I really respect the bloke.
dunno if you guys cares but if you're bored like me during the covid times you can watch pretty much all the latest series on instaflixxer. I've been watching with my gf for the last weeks :)
@Shane Orion yup, I have been watching on Instaflixxer for years myself :D
Spot on - what a thoroughly decent bloke
how? hes just stated the obvious
GreyMatr Why did the Baker have smelly hands? ... He kneaded a poo!
The issue has never been about gender or race, the real dividing line is social class. Sadly identity politics has made the debate toxic and unhelpful, masking the real issues.
It's race and class. I share no kinship with these interlopers brought in, even less so when they rape and sexually enslave the most vulnerable girls in my racial group while the establishment covers it up for a quarter century and still isn't doing anything about it.
Who would have thought someone named "Shlomo Bertgbalatt-Shekrldtein" is a racist.
But the thing is, young white working class boys do not get scholarships the way people of minorities do. Young white working class males are the least likely to go to uni, yet others who do not get the grades get scholarships based on ethnicity. All we hear about is 'white privilege' by far left people but the working class British people have been suffering in their homeland for a few decades now, pushed out of London due to house prices, industries closing down.... market places of Del Boy & Rodney types have been shut down due to major market chains on every high street. White working class men have been forgotten. Women and minorities are better off in terms of work and education than the working class white male, when it should all be equal. It's not fair that some people get to have a free ticket to universities based on their race or ethnicity but working class white boys don't because they're deemed privileged as they're British.
This is well worth a read redguardsaustin.wordpress.com/2017/04/10/on-identity-opportunism/
what you call identity politics is just politics for every other race. just because you won't engage in it won't stop non whites from engaging in it. identity politics is unavoidable in these current multiracial multicultural societies
Really motivating me as a teacher in a deprived school to help these children.
What a bloody breath of sweet fresh air! Well done that man. Peer mentoring and a rebuilding of community and confidence among working-class communities is a matter of profound importance. These are the voices that we need at the forefront of debate... this is how you defeat fascism; not with middle-class intersectionality.
Eponymous
TheForging545 Intersectionality is what replaced class politics. On paper it sounds reasonable... different groups are exposed to different levels of descrimination on the grounds of their race, gender and sexuality, and these should be combated to create a fairer and more just society.
In reality, however, this system has replaced class (contrary to Marxism actually; intersectionality is a replacement of class politics- the working-class has failed in their eyes- with the politics of Identity) and due to the perceived privilege of white straight males, along with abandoning the recognition of class division within our society, all white straight males are priviledged. This atomises class solidarity and replaces it with the championing of social sub groups and ethic minority concerns (Identity Politics) above the economic realities which can unite us and make us stronger. The working-class and poor are multi ethnic, and consist of both genders. Our strength lies in a united struggle on the basis of shared class intetests... not on the basis of individual groups fighting their own corner alone; this divides and defeats us.
Articulate Chav
Britain needs a bit of fascism.
I agree
sophistry
An intelligent and thought provoking interview. I was really interested in Professor Green’s comments. Thank you Channel 4
Fantastic interesting interview. I live in Ireland, grew up in a working class home . Had enough most of the time but know what hunger is . I was always determined to get out of that environment and through hardwork I did . Worked in England, New Zealand & Australia. One thing that’s common the world over is social inequalities. Those that have the opportunity to proper education because of the fact they come from an economically functioning homestead is such a start . Many because of financial issues fall through the cracks . Not to mention those that have intellectual problems and dysfunctional surroundings will always find it near impossible. Those that rule the roost are those that keep it such 😢
Amen, bro. Keep it real.
He speaks so well...with grace, humility and no judgement. A rare thing when it comes to the discussion of race
Great guy ,a voice has risen from reality and speaks for us all,strength & honour Professor Green..
No, he doesn't speak for millions of whites.
Your a moron. He called a political group racist said they were shouting racial slurs but could never provide proof. This man is a traitor to his own kind
@@drunkenpaddy6366 everyone knows BF are racist thugs & there is proof in the documentary.
researchers consistently fail to address the magnitude of this issue.
People ultimately need love and validation. When a man doesn't matter to a woman, when she doesn't gaze at him with a loving smile, tell him she wants him/needs him, that he matters to her.
A lot of guys have never had that.
This will cause disillusionment/isolation/soul sadness and mental health issues in men. No amount of material things, por* will be able to replace that.
The problem in the west is 2 fold. Incels can't get a woman and the ones that do get one, end up in divorce/breaking up or being cheated on and losing more than the lady. So they swear off relationships and end up lonely all the same. (Mgtow)
Both have the effect of creating lonely, angry, atomised ppl and broken society with plummeting birth rates. And can spell the end of that society.
What are we seeing in the west now?
Falling sperm counts, falling testosterone levels, births, marriage, and a rapidly ageing society, with catastrophic debt levels.
White ppl used to have close family bonds but now they no longer keep ties with family and send old ppl to homes.
Jobs for life are a thing of the past, from where they used to form friends.
White ppl lost their matchmaking culture and used to marry form within their own tried and tested social circle.
With all that now gone, internet dating and cold approaching/PUA random women that u know nothing about is the way. Which can be toxic.
Knew about this guy and his music but never watch an interview or documentary from him until a few weeks ago and he is quickly becoming one of my favourite people. A successful man with good morals and a compassionate heart, this guy is someone im starting to look up to! The world needs more people who hold a place in the public eye to be like him!
Prof is such a fantastic representative of the common man (and woman). He just says it like it is with warmth and humour and most importantly genuine curiosity as to why things can't be better? He shows a lot of integrity in his approach. I loves him!
It's a sad state of affairs when white working class men are told that they have innate privilege because of their skin colour and gender when in reality its this group that has suffered the most in the last couple of decades.
It's a class issue & not a race or gender issue.
Wealth inequality is a major issue in these modern times. Getting large companies to pay their fair share of taxes instead of the burden being heaped on middle / working classes must also be addressed.
Top guy. Yes social exclusion is real problem in UK society. People needs a goal and job
It might be wrong of me to say; I never really had much admiration or indeed a huge amount of respect for prof Green, no animosity either to be fair, but I see now this mans true colours.
Much respect.
Industry did not collapse, it was moved to countries with lower wages. The people of Europe have been abandoned by the industrialists. Gremany used to be the economic power of the world..... now Russia has the same GDP as Germany. Because they kept their manufacturing base. The labour party has abandoned you.
What a great young man hope he goes from strength to strength. Hope you do very well in life you deserve it.
This guy is more intelligent than I thought
You will NEVER meet a nicer man than this guy that we have just been watching> ULTIMATE respect. 💙
Love him and his new direction!
Total respect for prof green......top man
The working class in England need to get a fucking clue and stop voting Tory/UKIP.
Smart guy. Look forward to watching his documentary
"Inequalities are Inequalities" regardless of boxes...
I thought he articulated his points very well, I have a new found respesct for PG!!
OUTSTANDING...... HE WOULD MAKE AN AMAZING MP.
I grew up similarly to Prof Green, white minority in a largely Afro-Caribbean community and although the majority of my friends were black I still got bullied for being white, so bad that eventually we had to move away. Although our political class is totally detached from the working class I still have to say mass immigration is a major factor..... what do you expect to happen to indigenous white British when you import so many people particularly of the low skilled variety and those people end up displacing us? Our communities are fractured or just non-existent in certain areas we feel like foreigners in our own lands and we can't just hop on a plane and find somewhere else to settle. Even now where I work white British are fast becoming a minority to eastern Europeans so much so all our warehouses signs now are written in Polish! The truth is white working class have had everything taken from them even the ability to have children thanks to financial pressure and the prioritising of immigrant families when it comes to housing and benefits (yes it is true I have lived it). I don't hate immigrants nor do I want to ban all immigration but I do believe each country should be prioritising their own people and ensuring their own culture, laws and religions are being preserved. People need to stop ignoring the obvious elephant in the room and destroy the PC culture that has gagged us all into submission.
Never heard of the brother, but he's from my manor, speaks my language, and, as Snow of the Game of Thrones puts it, it's ''a truly professorial analysis''.
Wow a really incredible story thank you for sharing there lots more of these nuggets up and down the country.
Hackney bwoy. Well done prof. Holding if down for the ends. Sence you fighting with your emotions. Great job!!!!
What's the point of university? Pay £15K to end up as obtuse as everyone else? I can stack shelves too but my MA and Bsc comes in handy when I need to read the food labels. WTF is wrong with the world?
Scotland does not see itself as British and there is no United Kingdom,England want's too get rid of it & Scotland want's too leave.What a strange kingdom we live in there is no unity and never was so sad.
Scotland does see itself as British. It's only Irish immigrants who don't. They are only 1/5 of the Scottish population.
But Scotland doesn’t want to leave. They said so in 2014.
Top bloke down to earth
Pro green what a clean spoken individual 🙌🏻
I absolutely and adore Stephen ♡
This country has provided me a healthcare, public and non public uniformed services ie army, firepersons), work, food, safety,.... There’s a short list out of a plethora of possibilities that this country has provided.
I really like this guy
It's not Race it's Class!!!
What if I care about both?
Excellent interview.
My son who has excelled in maths all through school..got himself into Northampton university on an accountancy maths degree,,, only two other students in his class spoke English and where white it unnerved him and he felt like a foreign student in his own country ..he left after his first year !!! No one from the uni contacted him they just weren't bothered ..shame he has a real talent
You need to fix your sons mentality. If being foreign felt so bad, why do we go on holidays? Does it matter if they dont speak english? They are in the same room as your son... doing the same course! so clearly these people are like minded. Sounds like your son just lost motivation and thought you know what? i've heard my dad blame foreigners so im gonna do it too and it will be the one excuse he will accept as to why i decided i cant be bothered for university anymore lol
Brilliant interview
complementary reading medium.com/@JoinedAtTheArse/the-decaying-nature-of-capitalism-poses-only-two-possible-futures-socialism-or-barbarism-b3a144432320
Thank you
Intelligence is a major factor in outcomes.
Where would the world be if Louis was not beat down labelled with that box ? just brought in and respected for his skilled contribution to this well contained system instead of being open and building ???
Because the Conservatives aren't interested in helping you or anyone from a working-class background. To think otherwise is naive or stupid.
Loved this.
good interview, great people with a lot to say
An impressive young man. I hope he has done well over the years.
Interesting how he had a relationship with one of the poshest girls in the country as she wanted a bit of rough but it ultimately didn't work out.
My secondary school taught us one thing, get a driving licence and you will always work, it was more than useless ( 1980's, London), the school just created trouble, after educating myself and with the help of an Access course I went to University aged 25, however I hated it, the university was totally class ridden, one of the worst experiance I have been through, the irony is that I studied social anthropology and most of the course were from elite schools and would not talk to me and they are reading about culture
This is amazing what he's said, wow.
Great voice should be in politics
I have to say, channel 4 have been on fire recently. I have no idea what has caused the change of heart, but I like it. We have had an interview with Jordan Peterson and we have had a documentary exploring the plight of the white working class. I disagree with Green near the end in regards to Britain first, but I digress. Fair play channel 4, fair play.
Love Professor Green
Mingus Mingus: Eh? Punctuation would help!
I used to think this guy was a self serving shit. However I watched more of his documentaries and realised that he is actually a thinking guy and not the usual celeb knob that makes the assumption that we are working class dross and racists. I feel he shares his own demons and is very self aware. Although not politically active myself I believe Britain First feel a sense of cohesion and togetherness which is what our society has lost. Politicians should have been implementing a more inclusive society years ago, but they don't give a dam. They just talk about building more houses, yeah more of the same problems, without the infra-structure to cater for everyone. Prof Green take up dancing it may sound stupid but Ceroc will chase your black dog days away.
Mingus Mingus: Okay !!
I read this recently. Very useful to understand what's really happening and why medium.com/@JoinedAtTheArse/the-decaying-nature-of-capitalism-poses-only-two-possible-futures-socialism-or-barbarism-b3a144432320
Respect to Professor Green. Seems to have his head screwed on.
Working class Hero
David from Bolton? My neck of the woods?
It's funny, cos I used to go into Camden and see Professor Green at MC battles. He was good, skilled but came across like a pompous n*bhead, as unfortunately being an MC in that realm can make you. All offensive cusses.
But here and now, I have a greater respect for the man as he is using the platform he has to say something real. And it isn't dressed up in language that excludes, rather language which illuminates and is honest. Look forward to seeing the documentary
It's nothing to do with race or colour it's about rich vs poor, the rich are educated n realise if they twist it and make it about race then the poor are to busy fighting amongst themselves to notice what the rich are doing, we all need to stop to hating on each other's race or colour n focus on the real problem which is the rich slowly accumulating all of the world's wealth and political power
I’ve always loved him from day one
I don't know about his music but I've seen a documentary he has been in a new type of political party not labour or conservative but a new start for working people and small businesses would win 🇬🇧
It's a disgrace that he was the only white kid in his classroom? Wtf
This is infuriating that Indigenous Englishmen are treated as 3rd rate citizens in their own country!!!
"indigenous" 😂
@@kayerk well there descendants of the first people on this island and the Anglo Saxons who literally made England so don’t you dare try and take away our heritage.
Working class #Anxiety never leaves even with #SelfBuilt Success
With the old Elites That actually to blame 😎👌
Good interview👍
We are permanently debating amongst ourselves. While the elite club pavement their own roads on. Never entering our downward side doors. 👀 🙈🙉🙊
He says he doesn’t have enough safety for his future yet he’s got 2 houses converted into one and drives around a red merc sls. He’s not doin to bad
Noel Gallagher feat Professor Green song????
researchers consistently fail to address the magnitude of this issue.
People ultimately need love and validation. When a man doesn't matter to a woman, when she doesn't gaze at him with a loving smile, tell him she wants him/needs him, that he matters to her.
A lot of guys have never had that.
This will cause disillusionment/isolation/soul sadness and mental health issues in men. No amount of material things, por* will be able to replace that.
The problem in the west is 2 fold. Incels can't get a woman and the ones that do get one, end up in divorce/breaking up or being cheated on and losing more than the lady. So they swear off relationships and end up lonely all the same. (Mgtow)
Both have the effect of creating lonely, angry, atomised ppl and broken society with plummeting birth rates. And can spell the end of that society.
What are we seeing in the west now?
Falling sperm counts, falling testosterone levels, births, marriage, and a rapidly ageing society, with catastrophic debt levels.
White ppl used to have close family bonds but now they no longer keep ties with family and send old ppl to homes.
Jobs for life are a thing of the past, from where they used to form friends.
White ppl lost their matchmaking culture and used to marry form within their own tried and tested social circle.
With all that now gone, internet dating and cold approaching/PUA random women that u know nothing about is the way. Which can be toxic.
I was captivated by this guys genuineness and I was really interested when he was touching on the lack of aspiration the welfare state creates, as I've experienced it first hand. But then rather predictably - as its channel 4 - the interview deteriorated into bashing the white working class by showing Britain First marchers and presuming they are representative. I'm going to go out on a limb here and presume the documentary that Professor Green took part in was a channel 4 production and the producers contrived an invitation for him to attend the march. This would enable the channel to show a section of society that are supposed to be - in their eyes - privileged by being white males, but who clearly aren't. And then put them back into the 'racist xenophobic box' where channel 4 thinks they belong.
It was BBC not Channel 4
Good guy, smart.
I cant wait for the day when every child in britain gets a first class education. the quality of schools and teaching is not good enough. Ive met kids who go to private schools or 3 , 4 and 5 years ahead of those at state schools. its doesnt need to be like that. we can afford for everyone to get the same standard. I would serious pay an extra 10% in tax if thats what it took (its not just money though, many kids in the Caribbean , Zimbabwe and other African countries , in schools funded with less come out better educated . whatever the issue it it needs to be govts , society and businesses top priority.
It has been acheived in Iceland, so being a much smaller country helps
Village Cooking what you talking about school is free in the UK. Parents need to encourage their kids to do home work go to school. Its that extra work that makes the difference. School has always been free so opportunties to attend have always been there. There should be more schools involving parents and explaining the importance of attendence and homework. Planning for a future even if there doesnt look like one outside your front door.
why should the majority of people have to pay more for someone else child to have a better education than their own? better they keep the difference and hire a tutor. Of course most would not but that's their choice not yours
how can every child get a "first class education"? Are all teachers the same? No
And not all children are the same. Some will be very bright, some less so, and some, the majority are in the middle.
And some children will use opportunity whilst some will slander it. We are not equal.
Well said green
Good stuff, good guy
"What's an idea without execution?" But what's execution without resources?
Britain need this man to go into politics, he comes from a humble back ground, he's done well for himself but hasn't forgotten where he came from. Daddy wasn't a lord or a millionaire, a comprehensive education probably hasn't got an offshore account, in short a regular Joe Average unlike the front benches of either political party, how on earth do they represent us?
That might of helped the working class if he had gone into politics but they don't seem to like the representation they have in Labour MP Angela Raynor who is very much a working class success story.
The real point is that mechanization will take most manual jobs and we are being made to compete for those that are left thereby allowing corporations to offer lower wages. Meantime long term unemployment and addiction of parents, lack of stable housing because the council houses have been stolen and now austerity and lack of investment in our youth. 30 odd years of Thatcherite policy and Britain is now broken.
This issue is the greatest crime in the uk let’s hope it can be discussed sensibly without fear.
I sure noel Gallagher would like the lad working class modern take of Green ???
Good lad.
I did a sick wheely at the beginning of the program #typhlife
He is lovely Man
don't photograph is quite sad for UK
He's right, sometimes it's good to start a dialogue with people you completely disagree with. Even if Britain First are a fringe group the more you ignore them in the hope they go away it will only make the problem worse and grow. It hasn't worked in the past. Perhaps others can help educate or steer them away from hate if we opened up and tried to reason with them. Maybe then we could locate the actual root of the problem and do something about it!
Even #ProfessorGreen Has #Working-class #ANXIETIES Today 🤔 "😣"
I like pro green and I like Akala but I feel that when they are both interviewed pro greens answers are trusted more agreed with more and given more praise compared to Akala. Why is that I wonder?
What's your hypothesis?
At least we get a mention these days.
Indeed this is true white working class and black working class are just same thing. We have to get together and fight this discrimation.
i cant see white working class is the same as black working class different cultures and different histories
ramsey sixthreethree divide and rule.
I read this recently, think it's essential reading medium.com/@JoinedAtTheArse/the-decaying-nature-of-capitalism-poses-only-two-possible-futures-socialism-or-barbarism-b3a144432320
Dylan Black How is it the same thing? Blacks have their own countries where they aren't being replaced through mass immigration. White people have no future in the very countries that their ancestors built. In 30 years the country will probably be less than 50% White , in 70 years maybe 20% if current trends continue, how exactly is that fair? If you're a White person in England you can either become a wigger like this guy or save all your money and move to another country.
Faustian Soul excellent analysis. Your a genius probable of the very stable variety.
What a lovely fella
Start your own party
Where did pro green get his camo bottoms from on through the keyhole last night 20/1/18
uff.. it's not his documentary he just stars in it.. i dont know why they always pretend these celebrities are filmmakers all of a sudden.
director: Christian Collerton, producer: Sophie Clayton-Payne
Pat H fuck off you sad fuck. He is the face to spread the word.
yes they should be recognised here also
Pat H - Interesting as I've just posted the following and then seen your post which seems to back up my point. The double barreled 'Sophie Clayton-Payne' would seem to fit the bill for my following comment "I was captivated by this guys genuineness and I was really interested when he was touching on the lack of aspiration the welfare state creates, as I've experienced it first hand. But then rather predictably (as its channel 4) the interview deteriorated into bashing the white working class by showing Britain First marchers and presuming they are representative. I'm going to go out on a limb here and presume the documentary that Professor Green took part in was a channel 4 production and the producers contrived an invitation for him to attend the march. This would enable the channel to show a section of society that are supposed to be - in their eyes - privileged by being white males, but who clearly aren't. And then put them back into the 'racist xenophobic box' where channel 4 thinks they belong".
I'd vote for him.
St.helens is the same as Bolton no factories, businesses shutting.
He is clearly intelligent.
Bro no disrespect but how are people just figuring this out now. Its been like this from word go. This country is RICH.... just need someone in charge who can distribute wealth... never gonna happen tho because everyone insists all our PMs are from Eton, Oxford, Cambridge etc.... look at all the PMs same background, same people ... but hey ho just close your eyes and blame Europeans coming and other immigrants etc.. claiming all the benefits bleeding this country dry....
The sub-titles are a laugh... who in the hell writes them?? Totally off kilter.
It's what we do, consider Ireland and the loyalists
But he's not a professor though is he?