A couple cues that aren't as talked about for OHP are getting the bar low into the hands and cocking the wrists back. I see a lot of people try to keep a straight wrist and they end up pressing the bar straight up, meaning above their shoulders, and not up and back over their heads. Once you get this feeling you'll know, the lockout will be a lot easier. I also find that using this wrist position helps me externally rotate from the rack and create a strong start position. Another thing is that I think a lot of people grip the bar far too wide. Strongman competitors are masters of the OHP, and you'll see these guys who are 6'2" and above gripping barely into the knurling and definitely between the rings. For me personally, I notice my shoulders and pecs feel a lot more banged up from heavy benching when I'm not doing OHP. The scapular movement/glide really helps to keep my shoulders healthy.
What if overhead press = anything that you put over your head. It can be a barbell, dumbell, your dog... and military press = standing with a barbell. One of my favorite exercise and a great one for a great physic and a great strength.
At first glance, OHP to Bench Press relationship seems like a chicken-and-egg thing. Is being proficient in the OHP driving the bench progress or being a great bencher makes you strong at OHP? However, your reasoning as to why it may be the former, especially for those with small arches, makes sense to me. I might have to reintroduce this movement to my program. Cheers.
Benching 6 times per week would be boring. Movement variability is probably my best reason for putting OHP in all the time. I do think a lot of people see big benchers with big presses and think OHP will blow up their bench more than bench variations. I think that's more because the people who use narrower grip and less of an arch have big benches because of "raw" strength and muscle which is more important for OHP. Made a lot of sense when I heard this from Bald omni man
I think overhead press already has perfect transfer to bench press but not the other way around. My only push movement for a long time is just overhead press and made it to a 1rm of 195. Without any previous training in bench, only learning the movement when warming up with friends I could bench 255 pounds and friends suggested that 275 should be possible for me. On the flip side I haven't heard many guys able to do a standing overhead press 135 even with a 275 pound bench.
Hey man, don't know if this will reach you but I gotta try. Been experiencing lower back pain on the right side near the tailbone, pretty much in the upper butt region. The pain onset during a deadlift, and I've tried doing piriformis rehab in case that was the problem, as well as rehabing a herniated disc if that was the problem, but nothing seems to be working. What else could it be and how do I go about it?
I know you love this, and you got the right, but I SWEAR, you can keep your body entirely relaxed and entirely straight by balancing if you lean from your ANKLES instead of your waist - you can do everything you are describing here, but RELAXED - so you don't have to grip so insanely. You can be loose and relaxed and use balance to keep yourself in that position and 'tilt' from your ankles, not from your hips or waist. (I'm talking of OHP) So your back stays in a line like a board, but held in place by balance, relaxed - not by gripping like sheer hell. Barbell stays over identical same spot vertically over your shoes at all times - in the dead middle. Do it on a Smith first to make sure you keep that alignment. It is the same as if you get big at Bicep Curl, you start to lean slightly to keep it smooth, and that isn't "cheating" or using hip or leg drive, it actually is a better move at advanced level to lean ever so slightly. You will grow that much better with relaxed muscle and not kill yourself grabbing and wrenching.
LOL at least I know you have notifications on! When you watch the first minute or two after upload it automatically goes low quality until it processed unless it’s a scheduled video. TH-cam hasn’t fixed this which I find weird, as if anyone would want their video publicly listed until after high quality is reached lol
Kinda nuts this is a hinderance for alot of folks, in weight lifting I would see people press 110kg in a fast manner without training. I myself can do 100kg, I think you just need to train overhead movements more, push press, push jerks, power jerks, split jerks. Make sure you are doing some overhead variation while standing at least 3x/week.
I agree If my goal was to specialize in overhead. I’m not a weightlifter, makes very little sense to press overhead that much. The majority of PLers don’t overhead press at the highest level because they believe it’s so non specific. I disagree with that take but 3x a week would specialize me and remove from bench training
@@BrendanTietz That’s a sensible take, for what it’s worth I removed bench press from my workouts almost completely (still do once a week incline) due to having issues with keeping the weight overhead in the jerk behind my head. My bench kept increasing, honestly feel it would go up even if I didn’t incline press and just did presses and weighted dips. I think in the event you are hurt and can still press and dip, it might be a good backup to maintain or increase until you heal up.
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Amen! This lift doesn't get enough love. Great full body compound lift that has transfer to a lot of others
I’d rather see OHP as a comp lift than BP.
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Awesome Energy, Positivity and good content.... I hardly bench but Standing OHP at 185lbs and Im 60yrs old. lol ...Thanks Bro
Great video. OHP is one of my favorite lifts. Nice to see videos on it!
A couple cues that aren't as talked about for OHP are getting the bar low into the hands and cocking the wrists back. I see a lot of people try to keep a straight wrist and they end up pressing the bar straight up, meaning above their shoulders, and not up and back over their heads. Once you get this feeling you'll know, the lockout will be a lot easier. I also find that using this wrist position helps me externally rotate from the rack and create a strong start position.
Another thing is that I think a lot of people grip the bar far too wide. Strongman competitors are masters of the OHP, and you'll see these guys who are 6'2" and above gripping barely into the knurling and definitely between the rings.
For me personally, I notice my shoulders and pecs feel a lot more banged up from heavy benching when I'm not doing OHP. The scapular movement/glide really helps to keep my shoulders healthy.
What if overhead press = anything that you put over your head. It can be a barbell, dumbell, your dog... and military press = standing with a barbell.
One of my favorite exercise and a great one for a great physic and a great strength.
At first glance, OHP to Bench Press relationship seems like a chicken-and-egg thing. Is being proficient in the OHP driving the bench progress or being a great bencher makes you strong at OHP?
However, your reasoning as to why it may be the former, especially for those with small arches, makes sense to me.
I might have to reintroduce this movement to my program. Cheers.
Benching 6 times per week would be boring. Movement variability is probably my best reason for putting OHP in all the time. I do think a lot of people see big benchers with big presses and think OHP will blow up their bench more than bench variations. I think that's more because the people who use narrower grip and less of an arch have big benches because of "raw" strength and muscle which is more important for OHP. Made a lot of sense when I heard this from Bald omni man
I think overhead press already has perfect transfer to bench press but not the other way around. My only push movement for a long time is just overhead press and made it to a 1rm of 195. Without any previous training in bench, only learning the movement when warming up with friends I could bench 255 pounds and friends suggested that 275 should be possible for me. On the flip side I haven't heard many guys able to do a standing overhead press 135 even with a 275 pound bench.
i really want to try to chase 100kg ohp next year most of fun press movement i've ever done after incline barbell bench
Is the wide grip to help the movement carryover to the bench more?
Hey man, don't know if this will reach you but I gotta try. Been experiencing lower back pain on the right side near the tailbone, pretty much in the upper butt region. The pain onset during a deadlift, and I've tried doing piriformis rehab in case that was the problem, as well as rehabing a herniated disc if that was the problem, but nothing seems to be working. What else could it be and how do I go about it?
I know you love this, and you got the right, but I SWEAR, you can keep your body entirely relaxed and entirely straight by balancing if you lean from your ANKLES instead of your waist - you can do everything you are describing here, but RELAXED - so you don't have to grip so insanely. You can be loose and relaxed and use balance to keep yourself in that position and 'tilt' from your ankles, not from your hips or waist. (I'm talking of OHP)
So your back stays in a line like a board, but held in place by balance, relaxed - not by gripping like sheer hell. Barbell stays over identical same spot vertically over your shoes at all times - in the dead middle. Do it on a Smith first to make sure you keep that alignment. It is the same as if you get big at Bicep Curl, you start to lean slightly to keep it smooth, and that isn't "cheating" or using hip or leg drive, it actually is a better move at advanced level to lean ever so slightly.
You will grow that much better with relaxed muscle and not kill yourself grabbing and wrenching.
What do you think has more carry over to bench, dips or OHP?
Ah maybe I'll switch incline bench for ohp in a couple months
How did you get your traps so big bro ? 🤔 Never seen a natural athlete with such big traps...
I’m on gear but had huge traps natty too. Like gigantic. They hardly grew when I hopped on tbh. Deadlifts, rows and genetics.
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Only 360P? Come on coach haha!
LOL at least I know you have notifications on! When you watch the first minute or two after upload it automatically goes low quality until it processed unless it’s a scheduled video. TH-cam hasn’t fixed this which I find weird, as if anyone would want their video publicly listed until after high quality is reached lol
Kinda nuts this is a hinderance for alot of folks, in weight lifting I would see people press 110kg in a fast manner without training. I myself can do 100kg, I think you just need to train overhead movements more, push press, push jerks, power jerks, split jerks. Make sure you are doing some overhead variation while standing at least 3x/week.
I agree If my goal was to specialize in overhead. I’m not a weightlifter, makes very little sense to press overhead that much. The majority of PLers don’t overhead press at the highest level because they believe it’s so non specific. I disagree with that take but 3x a week would specialize me and remove from bench training
@@BrendanTietz That’s a sensible take, for what it’s worth I removed bench press from my workouts almost completely (still do once a week incline) due to having issues with keeping the weight overhead in the jerk behind my head. My bench kept increasing, honestly feel it would go up even if I didn’t incline press and just did presses and weighted dips. I think in the event you are hurt and can still press and dip, it might be a good backup to maintain or increase until you heal up.