Lexus UX 300e range test
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Everything about this car screams "Don't buy me"!!!
I am happy there are so many other great EVs to choose from ;-)
This feels like it would have been a nice attempt from Toyota to build an electric car in 2015. But in 2021... it feels outdated.
Just what i thought feels a lot like my og e-golf
Maybe they did build it in 2015 and only released it now as a "diversion".
@@eubikedude :)))
No kidding, my 2015 Soul seems more modern. At least that has a touch screen and inbuilt navigation. Android Auto and Apple CarPlay too. It got a replacement battery so range isn’t much worse either. I don’t know what Toyota is doing, this car is at least 5 years too late.
@@eubikedude Diversion for what or who? If you EV people make the Hilux disappear you will have to make me a truck with ladder chassis, leaf springs and 900km range.
Toyota execs: Make sure Bjorn gets a nerfed car for his test. We don't want too many people trying to buy this thing.
I have a 2017 Ioniq 28kwh and I get almost the same range. Crazy.
Hey Bjorn, I am wondering when you will get your hands on an EQS, really looking forward to your 1000km challenge with it
He often said his connection to Mercedes is not the best.
@@tommesob5099 I mean what do you expect, he is the most BMW style driver person that I’ve seen so of course Mercedes and him are not very close.
Ioniq 38kWh charging speed combined with EQC efficiency, they should have made it the other way around.
Obsolete DC connector, air cooled battery. What else should we expect from the company that trolls EVs in their "self-charging" adverts.
Yep Toyoda is correct, "Nobody wants a Toyota EV."
The problem is, if they continue like this, they will loose out big time to their arch rivals - the Koreans ...
@@nakfan soon enough the Chinese will join the battle too. Like you say, if they don’t change they are going to suffer hard.
@@Keoponloeu insideevs.com/news/381059/toyota-byd-agree-rd-joint-venture/#:~:text=BYD%20and%20Toyota%20become%20%22teammates%22%20and%20will%20jointly,hinted%20at%20such%20a%20deal%20in%20July%202019 in lieu of the latest new from byd and then you have the long relationship with toyota and panasonic -> techwireasia.com/2021/06/can-japans-toyota-champion-the-solid-state-battery-race/
For me a hybrid is still preferable, solid state is what im waiting for still. This ux is just an nissan in a lexus disguise.
That fossil-style battery gauge cracks me up!
And it's supposed to be a luxury car. Crazy.
I still like analog gauges, but it doesn't excuse the poor effort on the rest of the car.
A compliance car from the Toyota corporation who now realise they backed the wrong horse
Loud, heavy, cramped, slow charging, low range and thirsty. And this is supposed to be Toyota's premium brand.
I'm not impressed.
I think Toyota still thinks their bet is the winning one (hydrogen), now they are presenting hydrogen ICE as a path.
@@ikocheratcr I really had a laugh reading about that Corolla.
@@ikocheratcr I know right? Crazy don’t you think.
@@Keoponloeu I think it is just sad. I am all in for experiment with options, etc; but here Toyota has been so strange, makes me wonder why... makes no sense.
Toyota:
Toyota: "See, nobody wants EVs!"
Basically what every ICE manufacturer tried to prove(shame on them), till Tesla entered the ring.
I remember when you did degradation and range on classic ioniq with about 59k km done so far and it had better range on 90km than lexus🤣
And that car had half the battery capacity of this dinosaur from Lexus. Insane!
I bought a second hand ioniq thanks to Bjorn, and I love this car. Really happy with it. A shame that the 38 kWh version charges slower :'(
Now we know why Toyota has been opposing EV's. They just can's make a good one yet...
This car ist just the proof that Toyota don't have much experience in making good EVs.
The lexus advert ran during the video. Lol. ‘How does it make you feel?’ deaf. 😂
Lexus should spend that money on R&D instead of tricking people into buying outdated compliance cars. I'm shocked that something as bad as this comes from the Japanese.
@@TAD-9 Yes, I like Toyota and Lexus but this car seems quite poor EV. Not worthy of Lexus brand.
Man I'd even take an MX-30 over this! At least the design and interior of that car is nice and it's more efficient
and MX-30 has CCS. Chademo is a no-go in Europe
The Chademo alone was a no-go (because it's reserved for Leafs 😂), but apparently there is much more wrong about the car. A bit sad for all Toyota and Lexus fans who bought it because of the loyalty to the brand - Toyota gonna lose them big time
@@Urbanbenelux I saw Bjorn powering a microwave from Honda E, other vloggers powering inflatable castles from Ionic 5 - have not seen any chademo bidirectional charging 🙃 chademo in Europe will die out way sooner than ICE
@@OVarlamov CHAdeMO is a much better plug than CCS. V2G charging stations exist for CHAdeMO, but VW as the owners of both the German government and the CCS standard made sure it remained illegal in Europe to this day. However, CHAdeMO isn't the standard to turn to in Europe today, and now that Hyundai have come up with CCS V2L I'm almost sure we'll very soon see VW bring CCS V2G to the table and make it a legal standard.
@@adrianguggisberg3656 my Nissan Leaf agrees with the sentiment in your first sentence 🙂, but the harsh reality is much closer to the last part of your comment I'm afraid 🤷🏻♂️
I hope this car is a bad joke from Toyota. Otherwise it seems that Hyundai, Volkswagen, Stellantis and Tesla are miles ahead in EV-tech and Toyota fucked up.
CHAdeMO ??? What??? 🤔
@@Urbanbenelux why is that
@@osmanaslan6232 CHAdeMO is the smarter plug than CCS. It had vehicle to grid capability since the beginning. In other words, you can feed back power into your home or even the public grid with every CHAdeMO car, and use it for solar storage. In another attempt to delay the transition to EVs, VW introduced the unwieldy and stupid CCS plug. But don't worry, Hyundai figured out a way to feed energy back via CCS, and since VW own the German government and CCS, they will hurry up and present a solution for CCS V2G of their own and make it the European standard.
It is pretty rare in 2021 to find a car with literally ZERO reasons to buy it, especially one from Toyota. It's slow, heavy, loud, inefficient, pitiful range, pitiful charging and more expensive than anything with the same range. A true turd of a car.
Being a premium brand you'd have thought the noise isolation would be a lot better. Lexus made a big deal of the quietness on the UK CT200h adverts, so not sure what they are up to here...
It is the runnflatt tires fault
Hey Bjørn,
Would you consider driving it til it actually dies? Try another UX 300e? Can Lexus explain this? U get roughly the same range in the MX 30 with a CCS plug and a quiet cabin for a lot less. This is a mystery. Well done Bjørn!
I'd rather walk than by an EV with the range of this for this price in 2021.
Would have been considered a decent EV 5 years ago.. Man, Toyota/Lexus really dropped the ball on the whole EV thing..
Toyota as a company is not exactly agile 😄
Maximum price of this car should be 23k euros
1000km challenge is gonna be a pain
Nice ICE to EV conversion. Wait. Is this 2018?
Nope, this is 2016.
@@kierank01 the thing is, the IX3 beats it in every aspect. And as this is an EV, reliability is similar so yeah.
You should try to out how far the Lexus will go beyond 0% would be fun to see how much buffer it really has!
Its just a lexus thing. I remember my CT200h had around 15 L fuel left out of a total of 45 or 50 L when the needle hit R. It was really weird. I had to fill up often because I wasnt comfortable driving with the needle hitting the bottom on the fuel gauge. Its weird that they do the same with this EV. It seems that the japanese dont trust us drivers. :O
Apparently it is meant to have 20% buffer on E. Now the question is is that 20% of the claimed range (which here in Aus is 360klms) or the real range.... I drove this car from 100% to 0% as well and wasn't game to try to do that either 😂.
Bjørn, you can click the battery image on the charger (or the mobile web page) to get more charging details :)
Cool, but not very discoverable. Or is this more of an "easter egg" ?
@@horstlederhosen1826 Yes, I designed it as an easter egg. Maybe it's time to put some more visible cues into the next UI version :)
This car is DOA, at least in Europe.
LOL, I (and everyone I guess) get higher distances with the old Ioniq 28 kWh at same speeds - and that one is recharged 0%-80% in 23 minutes! That Toyo... err, Lexus really is a pathetic car screaming "let's prove EVs don't make sense!"
My data from a trip back from Tuscany to northern Germany, MOVE station Schattorf (Switzerland) to EnBW station Riegel am Kaiserstuhl in October, 2020: Elevation start: 488m, Elevation end: 228m, diff: 260m. Potential energy gain (1,500kg*9,81m/s²*260m): 3,826 kJ = 1.0 kWh, Distance according to Google Maps: 216 km. Duration: 2h23m. Average speed: 90.6 km/h. SOC start: 94%, SOC end: 7%. SOC diff: 87%, kWh: 24.4, kWh, incl. potential gain: 25.4 kWh ~= 91% SOC. Temp start: 13°C, Temp end: 13°C. Michelin All Weather tires 16", 2.8 bar (must be at least 2.4 bar)
They'll still sell more of these than their Mirai!
It is astonishing that this is the Toyota company that once filled the automotive industry with fear. In Japan they seem to have a completely different vision of the future than in Europe. Who's wrong?
If Internet Explorer would be a car...
😂
Ive got one of those!
What is the point of a 50kw (luxury) CUV that can only charge on Chademo?
Kona mi har en Lexus UX300e og datteren min og kona kjørte til Lillehammef som er drøyt 22 mil fra oss med vinterdekk og ca 0 grader med 5 mil igjen da de kom fra + buffer som man ikke får røre. Tilbake var det fortsatt rundt 0 grader men nedbør og våt veibanen hvor indikatoren viste 4 mil igjen + buffer. Det er en veldig komfortabel bil og for normal nærkjøring hvor man lader hjemme er det en bra bil med overraskende lavt forbruk rundt 0 grader. Men chademo-ladingen passer best om man trenger en liten topping for en tur på 35 mil enn hutilading for lange turer. Men mange ønsker en komfortabel og sikker bil for kortere turer og der er bilen bra. Kona mi har en Luxury utgave og jeg vet ikke noe om de andre utgavene, men Luxury utgaven har veldig lite støy.
Already had a bad impression of modern Toyotas from driving a 2020 C-HR, this does nothing to change that.
Toyota/Lexus is the next Nokia. It is at least 2 EV tech generations behind Tesla, Hyundai/Kia, VW for the BMS, never mind the inaccurate speed, noise and Chademo plug. Lexus media advertising spend on this car has been huge in the UK so they clearly intend people to buy it. It’s mutton dressed as lamb. A shocking result for a ‘premium’ brand. We’ll done Bjorn for showing just how dinosaur Toyota/Lexus is.
Over 40k for a car that has poor range ..Think they are taking the piss 🥺🥺..Like you said why so heavy for a 50kw battery 🔋
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@@MrConor159 Ffs 🤣..I missed a h off the battery 🔋😃👌👌
Hi, about under 0% buffer, on ct200h hybrid remaining range was a little strange to me at first. Range falls to 0 based on (I guess) estimated range and left about 50km below 0. Sometimes low gass orange warning appears after the range reaches 0. This is very conservative and most cars will show range including the one remaining on low gas warning or won't display the range under 50-60km remaining.
Maybe lexus has kept this conservative way of showing remaining range on EV. To be sure that the client will not be out of juice without obvious warnings of the car.
Cheers
I have a CT200h and mine is the same, there's almost 2 gallons left in the tank when it hits 0 range. My guess is they do it to protect the hybrid system and to stop you running out in general. It wouldn't surprise me if they did the same with their EVs as well, even if it reduced the visible usable range.
I have 11L left in my tank in my CT200h when it shows 0km remaining distance according to tank capacity - fuel filled.
So, if speedometer is showing 97 km/h when GPS reports you traveling at 90km/h, what's the real speed when speedometer shows 90 km/h? Is then the car traveling at 80km/h maybe? Is that the Lexus master plan to somehow "save" their range, show 90km/h but actually go 10km/h below the limit?
Way over-reporting speed is fairly typical for Toyota/Lexus
Great video as always. I hope Toyota will still provide cars in the future, I am eager to see if they can do better.
they definitely CAN, but DO NOT WANT, that is the issue. Their Boss is stubborn fossil thinking person... all fossil based tech or nothing (even their hydrogen is dirty and inefficient compared to BEVs)
@@apocrypthWell I think it is more than just the boss, it is the whole of management. I wonder what shareholders think, as there might no be much value for those shares in the future.
Lexus I think they are not serious about this UX 300h, always behind others.
They got the money but no brain, or who ever make these kind of decisions should be kicked off. Now where should you park this car. People want to buy Lexus but this is what they give you old and under rated technology, we are trying tell them to change the mouse pad bring apple car play and android auto but no. 😡
All Lexus are heavy. Thick doors for sound installation and the weight helps with a smooth ride.
Perhaps the Lexus is only using a small part of its battery to avoid battery degradation. That way they can keep their reputation of excellent reliability and longevity.
And I'm sure the owners will be extremely pleased when they pay for a premium car and get 200 km of range like you would in 2015
If that is Toyota’s thinking then they are seriously 2 generations behind Tesla, VW and the Koreans. Nissan is their long term home rival and Toyota must be watching them carefully. It’s arrogance to think that this is good enough.
Kempower should provide a charging graph somewhere behind the webpage which you can access with QR code on the charger. No need to record a video anymore 😏
Bjørn has become an internet star
I own a Toyota Auris TS 1,8 hybrid, and I really hoped Toyota would surprise us with a good efficient way up upgrading. Not this crap.. I dont even want to think about the price, what is this even based on? The C-HR?
so this car sucks under any angle.
Something must be wrong with that unit. 200km at 90km/h seems just not right
I think that specific Lexus unit has something wrong or maybe it needs a software update or something. It is hard to believe that Lexus set up a 20% buffer of the total battery capacity on purpose even considering the 10 years warranty... Don't you think? I do not think their idea was to sell a car with 150-200km range (under spring temperatures) in 2021 even if the car is based on a fossil platform. I am curious to see if Lexus wanna give you another chance to test a different car ...
I don’t know why you guys are talking crap about this car because this car perfectly sums up Toyota and Lexus’s vehicles. Very slow, very noisy, very old fashion, very heavy, very cramped, and gets trashed in every aspect by the Korean counterpart. The main selling point for Toyota has always been reliability, but this is an EV and reliability issue isn’t a concern in an EV because they are pretty robust. So I don’t understand why they even bother to try and make something half baked and disappointing like this.
OMG didn't expect such a poor noise insulation in a lexus. Shame on you Lexus! Also too small battery for such a consumption.
This is an embarrassment of an electric car...just a fleet compliance from Toyota. Waste of resources.
Bolleland :-D
It seems weird to have a car like this with such a small battery in 2021. Looks like Lexus wanted to make sure nobody is buying it :-)
It is a shame cos the car is actually incredibly well done but the range... I actually drove this UXe for the whole day from 100% to 0% and the expected range is no where near what is outlined! You're welcome to watch it and let me know what you think.
That petrol gauge hurt my eyes.
😂
"ABC...always bring your banana" - Bjorn 2021
I think I saw this at Costco the other day its a nice size comparable to honda HRV
Jeg har lastet ned abrp nå.. ser bra ut virkelig
For 2021 it's a shame for Toyota. Let's see whether you will get another car to test from Toyota 😅 You are just to honest 😁
Kjørte du bilen med runnflatt dekk ? Stor forskjell med og uten mtp støy. Jeg synes bilen tar ujevnheter i veien bra.
Når vil du teste en god varebil med stort batteri (75kwh) ?
Did you try the hybrid assistant app to display live stats of the battery pack? It is designed for hybrids of course, but on my Lexus (hybrid fossil) it displays SoC of the 'self-charging' battery, stats about regen and consumption. I use the same OBD plug as you do. Since Lexus modified a Fossil chances are it uses the same params on the obd bus.
Please also check HPC Chademo 200A. Thanks.
They're almost non-existent
@@JohnDoe-vx3z in Germany ALL fossil sellers build 200A HPC chademo now. Thats why I was asking Björn.
Was? Autohersteller oder Autohändler?
@@tzarcoal1018 TOTAL, ARAL, ...
Only 'Powered by E.ON Drive & Clever' and 'Ishavsveien' is building HPC CHAdeMO in Norway.
Toyota shows consumption from wall, not from battery. Still it's high.
28kwh ioniq for the president. The video wasn't about ioniq though
耗电量这么高？高速模式下，每100公里要27度电？ 惊人啊！
Everything about this car is so underwhelming. Who cares about Lexus anymore?
Why would anyone buy it? 480.000NOK for the top model, and you get:
- No motorized lift gate
- No navigation
- Noisy cabin
- Small battery (by todays standard)
- Chademo
Why is it called a Lexus? I thought that was supposed to be Toyotas luxury brand...
I really think they tried to bring something because they realised how late they were. Also I think the biggest marketing failure was that they branded it the UX. Every other car manufacturer branded their EV as a new model so buyers couldn't compare it to the (technically exact same) model in their line-up. It makes no sense financially to pay an extra $20,000 - $30,000 here in Australia for the EV version of the exact same car (UX200 or UX250h) because with the cost of electricity vs current petrol costs it'll take almost 700,000klms to get your money back! (Yes I've done the maths in my latest video 😂)
Really bad results from Toyota, I mean, Lexus… They have a lot to work to do to catch up with other brands. There is no reason to buy this car… expensive, low range, poor space available….
This is a no go zone,everything annoys
Is it a BMS calibration issue?
Bolle heter også bolle på Dansk, så er ikke så rart.
Har Dansk kjæreste og spurte han om det.
In France, from now on, there will no longer be any charging stations installations with the Chademo. Too bad for this Lexus which has this non-European grip.
Its like the Toyota / Lexus Fossil Cars. You can drive min. 100km below 0km range. I hate that!
So apparently the car has 20% charge when it's on 0% but the question comes to is that 20% of the 'claimed' range of 360klms or the real world range....
Hi! Need a electric car that does 140-150 km winter time high speed (120km/h) test and I would like to be able to pre heat it. E-up range seems a bit to small. What to do? Could you do a what to buy video again?
Classic Ioniq, cheap and fits perfect for your needs... Also the premium trim has a lot of good and useful features 👌
But it only pre-heats while it's plugged in 😉
Renault ZOe allows you to do that. Andi think Fiat 500eis also a good option
Mg, vag triple , ioniq classic, Zoe is bad in winter
Hey Bjørn, are you going to test the XC40 Recharge now that it got updated?
What was updated?
@@bjornnyland It got a software update, and they say it's more efficient now. It would be nice to see you check on that :)
torille. Kempower mainittu
This car is a sad joke. Small battery, Chademo port, slow charging rate, heavy, high consumption per kilometer, ugly old infotainmentsystem, no navigation, noisy, not cheap.
It is a shame cos the car is actually well done but the range... I actually drove this UXe for the whole day from 100% to 0% and the expected range is no where near what is outlined! You're welcome to watch it and let me know what you think.
All the downsides and additionally this thing uses Chademo????!!!! Seems like Toyota really does not wat to sell it. LOL
@@Urbanbenelux Does not change the fact there is CCS2 network all over Europe and this is the standard here. Until bidirectional charging is available and even relevant here it will take a lot of time. So please be less destructive and more respectful in your comments.
Haha bolleland (im a dane)
Could it be that 0% is 0 but 100% is actually 80%?
So I actually explain this in my comprehensive review at 13:30. Apparently it is meant to have 20% buffer on E. Now the question is is that 20% of the claimed range (which here in Aus is 360klms) or the real range.... I drove this car from 100% to 0% as well and wasn't game to try to do that either 😂.
This Lexus looks cute but must be a stopgap model as an electric. Seems like a Lexus version of the Toyota c-hr. And vastly overpriced.
Bolleland 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nissan BMS...
am watch a Nokia smartphone from 2010
haha!! Bolle-land!! XD XD XD
Test is a test, but I think retest is needed.
Lexus has not navigation !!!!
Louder noise might came from Japanese try to take out petty things to make car body as light as possible so that the car can go longer. So loud noise from body vibration happen consequently.
The car is quieter inside than all other cars. Like any Lexus. Thats why humans and measuring equipment think its loud because of wrong tires which are too wide on bad roads. I would go for 17" and quiet tires anyway. I am sure when Björn is going to measure the spectrum he will find out the same.
How can I buy this car cheap if nobody wants?
very nice looking car but very bad range
It is a shame cos the car is actually incredibly well done but the range... I actually drove this UXe for the whole day from 100% to 0% and the expected range is no where near what is outlined! You're welcome to watch it and let me know what you think.
What a horrible EV... its sad that toyota only managed to come up with this... :)
It is a shame cos the car is actually well done for the most part but the range... I actually drove this UXe for the whole day from 100% to 0% and the expected range is no where near what is outlined! You're welcome to watch it and let me know what you think.
Toyota / Lexus layin with speed, whatch out for consumption, i suspect they also lie.
Another crap UI from legacy.
What a crappy car
Shitty car...😅
Hydrogen is the future.
Really? Now that would be a surprise
Yes, it will be used in thermonuclear reactors.
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