The Truth About Lewis Cine
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2024
- The truth about Minnesota Vikings third-year former first round pick safety Lewis Cine.
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And yet…he’s played more than Davenport last season. 😂
Kwesi mistake started with hiring Donashell as his DC. Cine, Booth, and Asamoah were Ed's picks.
As someone who has suffered a compound fracture almost exactly like Cines, I don’t know if he will ever come back, this isn’t his or Kwesi’s fault. I can’t even run anymore, with this break if he can even run that is remarkable-but based on my experience with this type of leg break, blaming these guys for what is a freak accident is a bit rich, they both deserve a break. Personally I feel for the guy as this was totally out of his control
One word Hamilton……. Kwesi should have been fired after 2022 draft 😊
@@benjaminerie6586 no matter how much you disagree with Kwesi and his decisions, firing a guy after 1 season as GM is absolutely asinine
He literally couldnt even crack the 3rd string saftey spot BEFORE he was healthy. First round picks should AT LEAST be backups. This guy couldnt even be the BACKUPS backup.
@@Zoeinks team have done it in the past after a terrible draft and season
Clippers Paul George has been doing fine for years after his break.
Hope he does well this year.
2022 was easily one of the worst drafts in team history. That first round trade back might be one of the worst in NFL history, based on what we could’ve had and what we got in return.
I think McGlothern is going to get some run at CB. Looking at Khyree Jackson's profile I can see him getting some play at safety possibly filling Cine's spot if traded. Hell... both K-Jack and McG could be in the mix for some Safety play as CB/Safety hybrids.
2022 class was a bust. It happens. Let’s move on.
Metellus and Bynum have really came around especially Metellus he’s a beast
Ya there’s a reason why Cine isn’t playing but I wouldn’t cut him loose just yet let him play ST and see what happens. That draft isn’t anything special not even close and we can only hope way better players are in the future
2022 draft was dookie, but notice that the first two offensive selections have been the most valuable for the team so far. Ed Ingram at 59, and Ty Chandler at 189. All of those defensive picks, which Donatell presumably was involved in picking, are all not so great. Also notice that our first defensive pick from the Flores era, Blackmon, came in and contributed right away. Obviously Jay Ward and Jaquelin Roy haven't done much yet, but they're day 3 picks.
For sure, I'm a guy who gives the GM most of the blame and most of the praise for picks but having Ed in the building not only hurt Kwesi's decision making but ALSO didn't do the rookies any favors in their first NFL camp. Hell I bet even Kyle Hamilton would have had bigger issues adapting to the NFL with Ed as his coach instead of Mike Macdonald and John Harbaugh.
I don’t think people realize how much picks are an organizational consensus. You pick players based on your coaches and your scouts. Kwesi himself can’t watch every little detail about all draftees. He has to rely on what his organization is telling him and it’s no coincidence, like you said, that donatell was giving kwesi terrible advice and flores has had a few picks turn out already.
I don’t blame Louis Cine, he is what he is and he can’t help where he was drafted, or who we could’ve had instead. It was always pretty obvious that Kwesi, was setting himself up for disaster given the factors of who he passed on, who he traded with, and how little draft compensation he got in return…
That being said if this draft class turns out the way I think it’s going to, I’m more than prepared to forgive him.
I wish him the best and I pray he excels this off season and preseason. I believe he will be a beast
We should have been thrilled to death Hamilton fell to 12 and jumped on that pick. Only silver lining Jameson Williams hasn't been great
even after trading down ounce or twice they still could have gotten CB trent Mcduffie witch i would have been fine with because then at least we would have had 2 solid CB's with trent and still picking up bryon M
He wasn't playing well before the leg break. Someone else needs to take that roster spot.
People forget that. There were troubling signs that the game was too big for him right from the start even before the leg break.
You don’t draft developmental players in round one
SKOLTIDE Dallas Turner here now!
SKOLTIDE!!!!!!!! I Like That Name
The thing about that trade is that the Lions blew it even worse. They gave up that draft capital to move up and got a receiver who has missed a lot of games and has produced something like 600 yards and 3 touchdowns in two years. They also could have drafted Kyle Hamilton or a number of other defensive players that would have helped their team.
Wasting a roster spot on Cine is ridiculous. He has no chance to start or even play anything but some special team snaps.
I mean if you are only special teams you still need to be on the roster…
Cine if cut would add an additional 3.6 mil hit to the cap. If designated post 6/1 2.7 mil. Need to keep him for special team play and see if he improves this year. No penalty for releasing him next year.
I think the big question now is whether can he provide value with his 1st round draft pick salary. Cutting him this season will be a loss of 2 to 3 mil and I don't expect the Vikings to do that, but that means this season is his shot to really prove his value.
I hope he comes back and get his career started.
Just watching that guy on the sidelines says it all.
You forgot to mention that some players bust because they arent smart enough and that is what hapened to Cine, he has all the physical tools but he just is not smart enough in Flores defense.
I mean he definitely was speedy, 4.37 40 and an insanely fast 1.45 10 yard split.
The fan anger is about the actual trade 12 to 32 and no future 1st round pick, it's not about Lewis Cine. I would have fired Kwesi after the 2022 draft. Something changed in the 2024 free agency and draft period-maybe more decision making was given to Brian Flores and Josh McCown?
Knee jerk reactions like that is why it’s good you’re not running a team.
2024? So we can ignore how well Kwesi did last year? The fact that he dumped all the crap contracts so we could have the cap we do now and in the future?
Now get into 2024. What changed is the cap space we had available to us in FA and the fact that he is finishing turning over the old regime. All thanks to Kwesi.
People need to relax with this IMMEDIATE RESULTS crap. Just breathe. I want them to win too. How about we let them build some continuity and see what the Kwesi KOC team looks like which we probably see in its totality next year.
That's what im mad about no extra 1rd going down that far with a rival to make it worse but he gotten better to be being GM that nailed this draft and off-season
Bro would have fired the GM after 3 months and before the team even played a game under his tenure 😭
Lewis cine is gone bounce back he is a baller don’t wanna loose that guy trust me
Lose
LAST CHANCE, I NEVER LIKED THE OVERSEAS GAMES ANYWAY..
SOCCER FIELDS & RUGBY FIELDS
ARE NOT FOR NFL PLAYERS 😆
I want to lose him. No work ethic and he just sucks anyway.
Lose*** it’s LOSE
These loosers tryna correct you up in here like this some damn essay paper
His story reminds me a bit of the Robert Smith story. People might forget that Smith almost got the bust label because of early injuries and illness. Can Cine break out like Smith did?
I believe he is just a bust. I think the issue may be that he was on that super talented Georgia defense. With all the talent around him, it may have made his job very easy, which hid his lack of elite player level of play.
Lance Zierlein was spot-on, in his scouting report on Cine...
That preseason game where he missed that tackle going low as the running back jumped over him and went for that long run TD, did not look good and personally was what made him not a starter.
BUST.
Just because we have a deep safety room doesn't mean we didn't utilize the pick we had. Its like when people said we can give up a lot in draft capital because we have cap space... What??? You want to utilize your assets regardless if you have more elsewhere. In the end Kwesi is learning and this draft will tell us a lot. I love the JJ McCarthy pick. Time will tell
Cine is an amazing user player in madden
Draft position shouldn't matter, if a lower drafted player is better. Unfortunately, Cine never worked out with the Vikings. Keep the best players at each position.
Still hoping for something out of Cine, but not at the cost of roster/cap space if he is not a legit presence. I would hope that Kwesi isn't motivated by sunk cost, but much like with Ingram, I worry a bit that it could be more about GM hubris. I also can't believe that KOC and Kwesi would easily listen to Donatell whispers about guys he liked on their first draft night in MN, but that 2022 class continues to sting regardless, even without Hamilton comparisons.
Andy, thanks for this cathartic video. Kwesi has to get better because his inaugural 2022 sucked (fact)!
However, I luv what he accomplished in 2024.
So, let’s collectively, now, move on towards our championship march in ‘24, ‘25 & ‘26!
Although, I’ll be really bummed when Kyle Hamilton enters the HOF in a Ravens jersey 😢
Let’s Go…Skol
Josh Metellus is our best defensive player now.
How can you judge him when he's played very few snaps whatsoever.
Well you know its bad when you get more production from your 5th round running back and 7th round tight end then your 1st round and 2 second round picks
Drafting Lewis Cine was bad enough but Kwesi gave away the 12th pick in the for the 32nd pick a pick swap and a third round pick, losing the value of a mid third round pick, when you trade down you should always get more value then when you trade up. Detroit coaches and front office were laughing at what they gave up for the pick.
Remember draft picks are a team effort of the coaches, scouting department and GM. KAM bears some responsibility for the Cine pick but so does the rest of the organization. KAM also doesn't require a lot of credit for how well the 2024 draft went, it is a team game in so many ways.
Lewis (never to be) Cine..
Kwesi has dropped a few hints over the years that 2022 was a difficult year because he didn’t fully have his system or staff in place for that draft. I think its fair to blame Cine on Rick Spielman still 😂 Seriously though, chances are he really did come in so late into he process that they leaned on whatever direction Rick and his staff already had in place. Plus Ed Donatelle being an awful DC having influence over this draft didn’t help either.
The issue moving forward is Cine doesn’t seem to be worth a roster spot. Brian Flores is a mad man and if he cannot find a way to get Cine onto the field than just release the guy.
From what i heard is he cant understand flores defense as one of the main reasons he doesnt get any play time. You kinda need to know the plays to be able to play
I prefer to forget about the 2022 draft. It was Kwesi's first and I'm ok letting it go. I see no reason to beat it to death still. Cine will most likely be cut, you could tell on the sidelines last year. He didn't engage with the team at all, just kind of wandered around by himself. He looked like a dude on his way out of the league.
My understanding is that he just can't pick up the complexities of playing safety.
Real talk we had to eat that one for Kwesi to learn on. I checked all the boxes in his world and probably expected him to be just as good as Hamilton . I really think he killed the draft this year. He could have caved and sold the farm but didn’t and we still have the QB we wanted and an elite edge who will hopefully at least be a solid replacement for Hunter. Kwesi will get extra picks for next year and going forward. We still have our first which is HUGE.
Watch preseason games last year. Cine played well
He was terrible with 2 good legs. Now with one, he’s worthless.
Best case scenario he can make an improvement and be worth a 5th for draft capital
He definitely was a speed merchant. It’s why Kwesi drafted him and not Hamilton. Hamilton ran like 4.6 and Cine ran a 4.3.
Cine just looked sooo small out there and didn’t adjust. Kwesi probably learned you can’t just draft speed.
The truth about the Lewis cine situatuon is we had the opportunity to take Jordan Davis but we traded down and took him 🤦🏽♂️
Feel bad for the guy but if its not working cut your losses. Its unfortunate but thats the nature of the beast (NFL). Nailor hasnt done a whole lot either. Theirs a few others that just havent made the grade. But we are going to be a force this season!!! Skol !!!! 🏈💨
I'm sure he has worked extremely hard to get back. Play him.
I respect that he changed course and was aggressive moving up to choose quality over quantity this year, but wow was 2022 a disaster he is very lucky he didn't get fired because that was literally the worst performance in the league that year by a GM
Kwesi is just winging it, i truly feel like he has no plan, the 2022 class could be the worst in our history, his fa last year were horrible, and lets be honest he wanted drake Mayne badly and was willing to give up 4 1sts for it. And honestly Mayne kinda looks like a dope. He got fleeced on almost every trade hes made so far, and i think he lucked into Mccarthy. JJ WILL SAVE HIS CAREER
That whole draft class deserves an F it was K Hershel walker bust. Hopefully they will never trade down again. K you’re lucky you still have a job
Cine has no interest in playing football. I don't think he's smart enough to play in the pro's. Boot can't cover anyone so he's a bust as well. Asamoah who can't tackle is a bust that needs to be cut. The first 3 picks are complete garbage. The scouting department needs to be fired!! Kwesi doesn't impress me at all.
Also I would keep him over theo or Jay ward because he has way more upside and I thought that's how you are I mean we pick JJ who has barely thrown but has upside what's the difference
Kwesi drafted this class with a different defensive staff and only a couple months in the building
This is a bust pick.
Why did we let this GM pick a QB when he can’t even pick a strong safety?
I'm sure the Vikings will let him compete for his place, the question is if Lewis Cine up to the challenge.
Could've had Trent McDuffie too... He made a lot of good plays in the Super Bowl
We COULD have had Sauce Gardner. I was rooting hard for him that year.
Yeah, except... Sauce went #4 and we were at #12. So how do you figure that "we could have had Sauce"?
He ran a 4.3
thats what i thought, 4.3 guy
Vikings could have had Hamilton. I think Kwesi learned from this, as we can all see, he trades UP the draft board now.
We got to go Denny Green style and best player plays and stays. If you ain’t him then go play for Zim…
Ingram, Nailor, Ty chandler seem to be our best pick from the class. Evans gets used so...theres that
Lewis isnt making the 53 this year, it's okay. Swing and a miss, you have 3 strikes per at bat
Harrison Smith's job was on the line, or so we thought
To add insult to injury, Detroit had 2 first round picks in the next draft.... facts
2024 is still a question mark
Bust. Next…
He traded down expecting Tyler Linderbaum 'C' to be available.
Cine and Booth will be on the practice squad
Really can’t. Need to be cut first and both would result in an additional cap hit this year. Zero if Cine released next year and slight cap saving if Booth released in ‘25
Cine, Booth, Asamoah will all be cut ahead this season start
Pop the bubble, 😢Lewis is a waist of money
Could of also drafter joedan Davis at 12.
Personally, I have nothing against Cine, and not wish him any ill will. However, given his injury, I think he just didn’t work out and is likely a cut candidate.
Kwesi did well this year on the draft but 2022 was one of the worst draft classes of ALL TIME
Yes, BUST. End of conversation
Kyle Hamilton has nothing to do with it.
I feel like him breaking his leg is downplayed the fact the man broke his thigh bone I believe and is just as quick … the man will not be cut or traded I think Bynum is getting traded for d li e or o line
BUST! Even before the injury! Imagine if KAM had selected Hamiliton ...
Good thing lions drafted a bust 😂👍 so it doesn’t matter
Nailor is constantly hurt.
I hope he gets traded for a 6th. Otherwise, it's a cut.
Bust on every level.
Trade them all. Grab some draft picks.
WTH would want any of them?
@@tweachiemercer1589 good question.🤣
Speaking of Andrew Booth.....🙄
It's unfortunate what happen to Cine.He may never recover from that injury.
Ty Chandler being the best pick of that draft is just pathetic. Hes not even that good. Hes a fine backup scatback.
Remains to be Cine
He’s gonna get cut this off season during training camp
It sucks but it's the way she goes boys.
What if they move Cine to LB to pair with Pace jr.
Too small
Some players bust cuz…PAUSEEEE
Let's face it. He is a bum. I lived in Georgia. My cp-wprker coaches local players. He really keeps up with Georgia talent. When we drafted him, he said, he is a bum. I hate for him to be right. Looks like he is right. He has been right about a lot of local talent over the years. I was hoping he is wrong about CIne. Maybe, the Vikings should call him about Georgia players. I have to admit, he is more right than we are. He told me about Anthony Edwards 4 years ago. Looks like he is right again.
Lewis cine was bound to bust
😅Bro absolutely horrible to say that lewis cine brings out the hate no he doesnt horrendous disgusting take the kid has one of the wrost injuries you could imagine on the field and he still is playing in games not alot very minimal but it's not like he's only been sitting on the bench literally doing nothing he's working on it and he's going to come back and if he doesn't well that's okay because he had a horrendous injury and to say that he brings out the most hate out of the new generation of Vikings fans is absolutely disgusting bro yes i understand hes barely palyed at all a total of 10 games total and minimum snaps bit to say hes what we are mad at is just stupid imagine getting a absolute gruesome horrible injury and your fans turn on you and are mad at you that you're injured or that your not playing in games like what? it's all due to the injury I would assume because if it was straight strictly playing I feel like they would have released him by now because why would you keep him around I have a feeling that kevin and kwesi probably know more than you do bud... Sometimes I like watching the channel but then you sometimes say dumb s*** like this and it's just like bro put yourself in somebody else's shoes for one time like I get it they are multimillion dollar atheltes but they are also human
I still got faith in Lewis Cine