I immediately thought about Ted Bundy. Even a judge in Colorado said that it was a shame he didn't practice law instead of murdering many young young women.
That’s so true! One of my friends lied one time said that she was a journalist whereas she was an assistant really. Then they called her asking if they can speak about journalism and she answered: “what journalism?” Totally forgot about her own lie 😂
@@TyrillCelestine You could have a point! We might be a little more modest about privacy. I don't know. I can't assume anything, but there's definitely something to your statement. 😁
In an interview June Carter was asked the secret to her successful, long-term marriage with Johnny Cash. "Separate bathrooms" was her deadpan reply. Hmmmmmmm.
Everything we "know" about the crime is what the criminal said happened. I'd take that with a HUGE grain of salt. I don't know anything about the wife. She may have been overly materialistic, who knows? But wishing for more than 700 square feet and one bathroom for four people isn't asking a whole lot.
And the son mentioned that he would get really angry on the occasions his temper was triggered (if I recall correctly), which makes it sound like he was the type to normally be okay but have big blow ups when angry that could result in harm coming to others, however he was just able to keep his anger in check enough for that to stay private/not effect his public image.
@lonemaus562 I am speaking of fathers abandoning their families, not custodial arrangements. And that is not true, if the mother is unfit, and the father is, she will not get custody. .
"Well, he may have killed his wife, but did I tell you how he helped me put up my Christmas tree last year" The excuses people make up today is beyond me.
If it's illogical, the reason is the subconscious. That's what Freud wanted to say, when he argued that the subconscious is illogical, timeless and a third thing. If it's illogical to you, you're also not involved enough. This event has it's own logic. Don' t try to understand it by thinking. That's not gonna lead anywhere.
Same! Family of 6 with all girls plus poor dad! A lot of door pounding, like you said, and coordinating. It can be done. But maybe not now because people have this hours long beauty routine.
We had a family of nine with one bathroom. I took up B&W photography and used the single bathroom as a darkroom. Fifty years later, I still remember those desperate bangings on the door.
Carol is like a rare victim where no one is really saying what a nice person she is. That worries me because I always thought I had immunity from being murdered because I am not a nice person. But this case proves otherwise and it is now giving me tremendous anxiety.
He was able to get away with it for so long because Carol wasn’t a very nice person. She was cheating on her husband and was getting ready to take another man to her sisters wedding. Carol was heartless and everyone knew it. The police didn’t try very hard to ‘solve’ her case.
I think you're referring to the "Only the good die young" rule, but "young" is rather imprecise and as an adult I wouldn't be counting on that as my only means of protection.
My late husband was always smiling sweetly to everyone but verbally abusive to both me and his own mother behind closed doors. 'Nice' guys may not be so nice to his own family and can also be killers.
How cold must one be to murder their spouse but continue to work for the dead spouses father, take over the father’s business as well as maintain a good relationship with the spouses family. This guy is a master at gaslighting and manipulation. Not a good guy.
My thoughts as well. A ‘nice’ or ‘good’ guy does not leave his children with no closure, especially for that fkn long. Jeezus, this guy is the epitome of evil just like every other jealous murdering spouse. What he did to his own children is what really gets to me …
@@Kalleesto What are you talking about? It's not true? Who the heck are you to tell us that it's not true? So, all the psychological literature I've read has been for nought, cause apparently the concept of compartmentalization in psychology is simply not true. Come on.
I can never really get used to the part where Dr Grande says "now moving to the timeline of the crime. "... especially when couples are the topic. I just know it's going to be bad after that statement. 😥
Dr. Grande.....I'm not sure how to get through and communicate with you but a wonderful Dr. Grande case is covering the current Houston, TX police/arrest and fire ant attack and subsequent civil lawsuit! Jim C.
@@cplmpcocptcl6306 I'd consider this an excellent one......the cops have video and witnesses that prove how badly this woman acted back in 2021 and drove dangerously, ignoring their commands and forced them to react as they did yet now expects millions for her bad behavior.....But every time I comment (always nicely and constructively) or suggest a great case like this one either Dr, G or YT blacks me out 100%. It's entirely undeserved and humiliating and the only way I can keep my comments from getting immediately eradicated is by replying to comments and piggybacking.........I hope you can understand my frustration. YT talks big about the freedom of speech. Mine's always G-rated yet silenced. Jim
Covert narcissists appear absolutely wonderful to everybody except the actual family members. It’s a facade to feed their ego and inflate their poor self image but meanwhile there is anger, lots of anger, contempt, control issues, hatefulness and outright unhappiness behind the scenes. I suspect that’s what is going on here.
Except everybody including his children and those close to him said he was a good person. I've seen very good people (women included) that are very nice and agreeable get abused absolutely terribly and eventually explode especially if the abuser crosses a redline - a redline in their mind. It's entirely possible that he was a genuinely very nice person and she was a genuinely terrible person (people said she was pretty terrible) and he eventually exploded.
@@larmondoflairallen4705You are obviously unaware that there are a hell of lot of unhealed adults walking this planet. It's a real condition and transcends nationalities and cultures. You can have an 21 year old female from Ireland and 67 year old male from Japan, both exhibiting the same toxic behaviour. And condition is getting more widespread since advent of social media. So I can't see it going anywhere soon.
My best guess about this...She complained about the house being too small, was unhappy about it...but that was just a tip of her unhappiness. She was unhappy with her marriage, her finances, and mostly herself. Multiple affairs doesn't create happiness, it creates more confusion and isolation. Regarding him, often, the super chill, super nice guy also tends to avoid his own anger, and then tends to blow up when his anger can no longer be denied or avoided. I think he truly loved her, but that night her unfaithfulness triggered his rage and he struck out at her, killing her. Disposing of her body the way he did probably shows his anger and contempt for how she treated him. Overall, a very sad outcome especially for the children.
Sad outcome for Carol. She married too young....married the wrong guy...got knocked up...trapped in a marriage.... and confused about what to do. Then she got killed.
A ‘good guy’ does not punch his wife much less kill her. Michael was not kind, Mr. Grande. Kind people do not punch someone much smaller and weaker than them!
Hi Dr Grande... I could understand about being cramped with four people in one bathroom, because my household was the same. I could also see that she pissed him off with her lack of gratitude, but I think the fatality of this story entailed more than a simple "push". Lie after lie. Thanks
Ironically I was just having a conversation today about how we wouldn’t do well in a one bathroom house, so when we were searching it was a deal breaker.
So because she was found to be unfaithful and unhappy with the house everyone decided that she was voluntarily missing. Even though both children said she would never leave them. Of course he was never even investigated. WTF!
I think this definitely had to do with the time of the crime. I don't think he'd have gotten away with it today with cellphone tech and everything else.
This is a case of poor police work. Nothing was said about investigating her supposed "lovers". If they had followed that angle, maybe her husband wouldn't have been so well liked. Cheaters usually complain about what they don't like about their spouses. The fact that the family just "overlooked" the fact that she never contacted them or her children and continued to have a relationship with the husband speaks volumes, too. Had they investigated this case probably could have been solved when it happened. FYI, most children love their mothers and will claim that they'd never leave them, unless the mother is abusive. They were too young to understand adults actions.
Thanks for the video, Dr Grande. Human relationships are complex and don't guarantee everlasting happiness. Marriage can be challenging as it often forces people to stay together even when it's not ideal for their safety and wellbeing.
@lostandfound5145 statistically yes it's been found 90% of assaults on men are not reported in fact the revised sexual assault stats coming in now show women are the primary aggressors now.
Everyone thought my X was the most WONDERFUL kind man. He was an evil, cruel, and extremely abusive man. It's something victims don't talk about it. To embarrassing. And why don't you leave? Very hard.
@@cangrejitamiry Who cares ? That's not an excuse to stay with an abuser. Not leaving an abuser is has more to do with self-esteem than what others will say.
@@djg5950 Not leaving an abuser is far more to do with fearing the retribution that will come if you do. Most of the abusers have threatened the victim with her murder, or that of the children/pets/other family members if she dares try. And he has usually laid the groundwork to make that threat seem very possible. The most dangerous time for a woman is when she is leaving, or has just left, an abuser. Nothing to do with "self-esteem", you seem rather ignorant about DV situations.
I grew up with both parents and two siblings. We had one house in the UK, and one in Australia when we migrated. We had one combined toilet/bathroom in each house. It’s perfectly functional for a family of 5 , so a family of 4 could do it with ease.
@@just_passing_throughThat’s not so bad, but these people had a son and a daughter sharing a bedroom I assume, since they only had two bedrooms. That’s fine until a certain age. What was he planning on doing when the kids were older? I guess he was remarried by then and went on to have two more children. I wonder how many bedrooms were in the house with wife number 2?
@@just_passing_through Depends on when you grew up. I was married to an English born Australian and lived in Australia as well. Many, many people do grow up like you did. My family of 6 shared a bathroom and 3 bedroom house BUT that was in the 50's and 60's. Things are different now. If Michael could have afforded a bigger house they should have gotten one. How long were two kids of opposite sex supposed to share a bedroom? That's the only thing I agree with Carol on tho.
I worked at Toyota in Torrance where I developed the SuperFunction for their logistics division. Torrance was a very nice town with strong Japanese influences. However there was a huge Mobil plant nearby that looming nearby. Toyota has since relocated to Plano, TX.
I can't wait for the Dr. Grande on Dr. Grande episode: "...the day I allegedly committed the crime, I would have been vindictive, sadistic, immature,..., yet still remarkably witty..."
Love your work Dr. Grande. You are like "home " for me in a sense. You make me feel safe when I'm having trouble sleeping. I lost my Son to Parental Alienation and suffer tremendous heartache. I thank you for your professionalism and cooth. Steph
Apparently he was nice and good to EVERYBODY who knew him including other family members and she was terrible to EVERYBODY who knew her and was having an affair. It is possible that he was genuinely a very nice person and she abused him to the point he exploded. Now that doesn't change that he killed somebody and should go to jail but nice people do get abused and nice people can lose control of their emotions if pushed enough.
I can empathize with why Michael would be extremely enraged like any man or woman would if they learned their husband or wife committed the ultimate act of betrayal flew into a rage probably didn’t intend to kill her but it happened.
@@retsaMinnavoiG The guy was not man enough to stand up to his wife, or man enough to support her and their children like a man is supposed to. He also was dependent on her father for his job. He killed her because he wanted everything to stay as it was, not accepting that his wife didn't want to be with him and leave things the way they were.
This whole situation is pretty gross… He punched her in the face and ended up murdering her. That’s it. It doesn’t matter if he was a “ nice guy” or a ” kind and laid-back individual” murder is murder. Of course there are different circumstances in every situation. But six years for murder because your partner might leave you so you kill them… It doesn’t seem right. EDIT: yes, he was convicted of man slaughter not murder. I still think it’s absolutely wrong that his wife was killed by his hand and he only spent six years in prison. Especially up until recently people were spending up to 10 years in present just for weed. I just feel like our system is extremely broken.
Murder is not always the same. There are genuine mitigating circumstances that should be taken into account. But you're right about drug offences being given decade long sentences.
I think the reason why is because they didn't have enough evidence. I'm not sure if it's right or wrong. But my ex seemed like a really nice guy and was actually a horrible monster. Alot of abusers get everyone to like them and tell people lies about you so that it will be very hard for you to leave due to mass public pressure. Anyways our system is very broken. People kill litteraly babies everyday and are never convicted of it but supported and feel sorry for the baby murderers. But if it's outside the womb then the person is a horrific monster that everyone hates. It litteraly is insane and shows just how stupid and brainwashed ppl are
Holy crap! I am a born and raised Torrance California resident, as well as my mother and her two siblings (uncle and aunt). My uncle went to North High and graduated in 1973, my aunt graduated in 1976, and then my mother in 1980. I was class of 2008 (being born in 1990) and my younger brother then followed and graduated in 2011. North Torrance High School was a great school to go to growing up, as are the other 3 high schools in Torrance (Torrance High, West High, and South High) and have had quite a few different celebrities and prominent athletes professionally, attend our schools over the decades. But I have literally never heard of this case before now, and am dying to know if my Uncle David knew these two individuals since he would have been attending North High at the same time, though he was in fact a grade or two younger than them according to the dates Dr. Grande gave about their graduating classes. Wild stuff though Dr. Grande; I watch basically everyone of your videos, and even though Torrance is an absolutely huge suburb of LA county, I never really thought it'd be featured in one of your videos🤣 Anyways keeps up the great work and never veer away from your elite level dry humor and your classic dry dad jokes!
I love your dry sense of humor Dr. Grande Also, your videos give an in depth look into these cases. You speak with intelligence. Keep up the good work!
He was either very manipulative to have so many people like him after committing murder or she was just a very horrible person to have so many people take his side for murdering her. Bizarre story.
I watched an episode of Law and Order when they were looking for a murderer. Lenny Briscoe (the wonderful Jerry Orbach), jaded after years of being a detective said "It's always the husband." He's right.
They knew he did it but they didn’t like her, so they didn’t pursue him. lol. He practically had to confess to even be punished. Then they got him off after serving only six years.
@@kikismama The biggest problem is having two children of the opposite sex. Even welfare will pay for a 3 bedroom apartment if you have 2 kids of the opposite sex. They do not make boys and girls sleep in the same bedroom when the oldest reaches (I think) the age of 6 or 7. There is a cut-off age.
People can be one thing to the outside world and another behind closed doors. My ex was very beloved by everyone he met but at home he was whiney and passive aggressive and super clingy. He'd follow me from room to room. Everyone (except for my best friend) was surprised when I divorced him.
My narcissistic ex husband hijacked my family too. He is also a liar and can't remember his stories. My mother asked me how he could be with such a turd as me. So the narcissist killed the wife and the family didn't care. Poor Carol came from a narcissistic family who cant see the narc because they are narcs.
@@retsaMinnavoiG To try to be unbiased here, it probably more likely means her mother never truly gave her affection and conditioned her to unhealthy attachment by being neglectful herself, and as a result she was attracted to dysfunctional relationships which is how she ended up with a narcissistic husband.
Dr. Grande voice is great.. Love all his video's.. If I can't sleep I sometimes just turn him on and listen. soothing voice this Dr has.. Listened to many of his analysis ..
@@lostandfound5145 Me too, even 1.75 sometimes. I am a native New Yorker and I worked for lawyers. New Yorkers talk fast and don't tolerate slow talkers, especially the lawyers I worked for because they are so busy. They would say, "Get to the point", or "Spit it out already" when I would talk with them. I now suffer with the slow Floridian talkers where I now live now that I retired. Thank God we can control the speed here on TH-cam!
@@rcelestefelix9299 haha! I felt right at home when I went to NY with all the fast talkers 😂 I’ve also moved down south (on the gulf in TX now) & also struggling to slow down with the locals 😂
I lived this Mr. Nice guy routine to the world and not at home story, when no one was looking. I know others who lived similar realities. Dead wrong except she never gave her side of the story. Dangerous to smear her reputation and give a personality profile on a dead woman. Divorce and settlement is the answer, but sociopaths can't do that even when the evidence is the marriage is over. Narcissistic sociopaths are actors who could win Academy Awards for their ability to fool others. He killed his wife, lied, made up a story. He's a murderer who acted a part of Mr. Nice guy. He lied and said his wife hit his son. The son said it never happened. People don't disappear for the rest of their lives when they have an affair. They don't abandon cars, not use bank accounts and suddenly have no address! He charmed everyone, including her family, the legal system and you, Dr. Grande! Very sad, very evil, very wrong! Might be great for a sensational story and ratings but gives credibility to lies and outright criminal behavior. He had no empathy. He didn't miss her. I could point out flaw after flaw in this presentation and argument, really!
I can see why sharing one bathroom with 4+ people indefinitely can be a source of contention and eventually a reason to want to separate. I shared one bathroom with two other siblings and it was pretty annoying.
Torrance homes were built for aerospace in the 1940s and 50s. The homes had a small kitchen and a small bathroom. You had to be discipline as a family in the morning.
Yes. I really don't know how humanity survived without having big houses, multiple bathrooms, private pools and at least 1 mil$ in their accounts. 🤷 I don't know how they managed to form families, procreate and live fulfilling lives. It's a miracle ohh Lord, what a miracle that humans are still around.😂😂😂 Even if you take a shit in a galaxy far away, I still know you have a lot of shit in you. If someone can't share a bathroom with the most intimate person in his/her life, is not good for forming a family, end of story. Life it's never only sunshine and roses. 🤷
Besides the obvious part the evidence does not indicate that was the case here. Everybody said she was a terrible person, she was having an affair (possibly multiple) and her own family took his side. Everybody said he was a good person (including his and her own family). It's entirely possible she was an abusive and manipulative person and he was a genuinely good person and that he finally lost control of his emotions - which is what the evidence indicates. Being a nice person doesn't mean you cannot be abused and it does not mean you are an emotionless robot. That of course does not mean he had a right to do what he did and he deserved to go to jail.
Agreed. And sometimes, just because somebody adds details to a story, people twist it as if the person telling the story is now lying; we often hear the “he/she is now changing the story” even though they’re simply adding additional details. Can’t even trust a jury or anyone for that matter.
@@thatisabsolutelykooooge2211 It is not about 'additional details', but conflicting details. Big difference. Also, traumatic events tend to be either blocked out, or locked in.
@@davinasquirrel7672 I believe memory is incredibly fickle and the mind is incredibly powerful. I've seen people swear they remember things that didn't happen or were vastly different to how they remember and I have memories of things my family have talked about when I was younger, that I logically realised I could not have been there for. Not to mention fever dreams tend to be locked in as real memories. Neil D Tyson talked about this at some point, he was chosen for jury duty and the judge asked if any of them would not be able to convict and Tyson said he would have trouble convicting on the evidence of eye testimony alone and the Judge said something like 'would anybody else need more than one eye testimony to convict'. He rightly pointed out that wasn't actually what he said and the judge was misremembering something he witnessed just prior.
In the 60’s when I was a toddler there was a murder of a woman in my small country town. As such things were extremely rare, the local police got all excited, doing everything by the book, preserving the crime scene, setting up an Incident Room - while they waited for someone from the Murder Squad from Scotland Yard. When turned up he didn’t look at anything. He just said ‘arrest the husband. It’s always the husband’.
@@kathyflorcruz552 based on fact. Of course, it's not ALWAYS the husband but it nearly always is. Random murders of random people going about their regular day are incredibly rare especially if there is not a lot of evidence to suggest otherwise (like during a break-in or running through a dark park by themselves - both of which should have lots of evidence to corroborate the husband). Healthy, well adjusted people (especially adults with children and jobs) generally don't just disappear without a trace.
I've seen stories change over one night! I had a co-worker with a TERRIBLE memory. One day I looked at her and told her firmly that that's not what had happened. She just gawked at me and said: No?? Then what happened? She honestly didn't remember the straight facts
If he hadn’t turned into a possessive monster and murdered his wife when she tried to leave him, the moral of the story would be that marrying someone you met as a teenager seldom turns out well. Odd that he’s described as a “good guy.” She responded to her unhappy marriage by having affairs; he responded by committing murder. Sounds like they were both jerks. He wasn’t a good guy.
I married my first bf whom I met in high school. It did not end well. He always thought the grass was greener and on Christmas Day 2015 he told me he was leaving me and the kids to pursue his prize (ie. his secretary). What a cliche
@@purpleperegrine7295Hell yes. He is a cliche. I hope it doesn’t still hurt. Getting a final divorce decree was the happiest day of my life. Hope you can say the same about yours.
@@kashigataI would be lying to say it doesn’t still hurt. My guess is it always will because I married a person I loved. After the debilitating pain subsided somewhat, the implosion of my marriage made me reflect on myself and who I am, how to raise my kids with an absent father. I started my law degree March 2016 and was admitted as a lawyer March 2020. I am in control of my life story and choices, not my ex. He is a bit chapter in my life, not the epilogue. Not once did it cross my mind to inflict pain on my ex because of what transpired. I am in a happy place now and the kids have two sets of parents that love them.
I don't want to speculate if he's a killeeer or a nice guy because that's why I am watching Dr. Grande. For the speculations sake. Grazie mille, Dottore❣️☝️😂
And it never crossed his mind to call the police and say we were arguing and it was an accident. Nice guys don’t have the ability to carry their wife to the river and throw her in it.
It infuriates me that, for decades, Michael encouraged people to believe that Carol abandoned her family. As if killing her wasn't enough - he also had to piss on her memory, even to their children! Unbelievable. I'm glad he confessed. I wish he got more time.
Dr. Grande.....I'm not sure how to get through and communicate with you but a wonderful Dr. Grande case is covering the current Houston, TX police/arrest and fire ant attack and subsequent civil lawsuit! Jim C.
It's troubling how jurors can render a guilty verdict with such scant evidence. Although in this case it turned out that the jury guessed correctly, it doesn't always works that way. By being so undemanding of the prosecutors it opens the door to the government rounding up people and putting them on trial for serious crimes with insufficient proof and relying on a wink and a nod to get the desired result.
Yes you are far safer with an abusive guy who can't control his intake of drugs and alcohol, smacks you around and cheats on you with your better looking friend. That's the keeper 😎
Something was "SMALL" alright but it wasn't the house. But for real though imagine being fortunate enough to have a home and still complaining about it. She was very ungrateful callous. This isn't my opinion it's fact.
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“A person can be likable and a killer at the same time.” Dr. Grande! ❤ 👏👏👏👏
Most psychopaths are very charming!
But it makes me feel bad 😭
Like why do I like the “bad” person? 😰
I immediately thought about Ted Bundy. Even a judge in Colorado said that it was a shame he didn't practice law instead of murdering many young young women.
@@djg5950 I thought about him too! Too bad he used his qualities in a worst way!
People underestimate the power of snapping. It's your unconscious taking control and that can happen to anyone, ESPECIALLY "nice" people!!!
"If you're going to lie you need to have a good memory." Judge Judy
That’s so true! One of my friends lied one time said that she was a journalist whereas she was an assistant really. Then they called her asking if they can speak about journalism and she answered: “what journalism?” Totally forgot about her own lie 😂
Judge Judy is a registered Member of the Communist party !
5/14/24 WOW, must of changed her career by the time she got call for “quote” 😂
Judge jewdy
@@erikamccarthy1457 must *HAVE
"...Mostly because of the murder part"
This has to be on a T-Shirt.
Epic Dr Grande again! 🌵
YES!!
I’m still waiting for a “not clothing challenged” shirt. 😂
@@mombeach Lol
That one always gets me lmao
I can fully understand how one bathroom for four people could lead to murder.
Totally.
It was the last straw
Not to mention the son and daughter sharing a bedroom. Were they supposed to share until they finished high school?
I honestly think that’s a ladies issue because living with guys I’ve seen it happen but living with the ladies it never works lol
@@TyrillCelestine You could have a point! We might be a little more modest about privacy. I don't know. I can't assume anything, but there's definitely something to your statement. 😁
In an interview June Carter was asked the secret to her successful, long-term marriage with Johnny Cash.
"Separate bathrooms" was her deadpan reply.
Hmmmmmmm.
Separate bedrooms could be a good idea as well.
She’s on to something!
Separate houses could be a good idea as well.
Are they both still living?
The secret is you can't make her happy so stay single.
Nice and friendly, or an adaptive sociopath? So sad that he can’t even tell anyone where her body is, I think that says it all.
Most likely he actually forgot, the guy clearly had major issues with his memory.
@@vejetThat’s a pretty bad memory.
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Everything we "know" about the crime is what the criminal said happened. I'd take that with a HUGE grain of salt.
I don't know anything about the wife. She may have been overly materialistic, who knows? But wishing for more than 700 square feet and one bathroom for four people isn't asking a whole lot.
Not to mention for her preteen son and little daughter to have separate bedrooms. Sheesh.
What about all the cheating? Cheating because of not having a bigger house? Yes very materialistic
The majority of the world population dreams about 700 sf.
We are just spoiled and entitled!
As one commenter wisely stated, it wasn't JUST because she wanted a bigger house.She was discontent with her husband, marriage and herself in general.
I suspect this guy was not actually the nicest guy ever.. because of the murder part
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A cheating wife isn’t exactly either
@@Mancer1980 cheating and murder.. hardly comparable
And the son mentioned that he would get really angry on the occasions his temper was triggered (if I recall correctly), which makes it sound like he was the type to normally be okay but have big blow ups when angry that could result in harm coming to others, however he was just able to keep his anger in check enough for that to stay private/not effect his public image.
@@AMM3.Only the finality the life ruining potential and all other personality factors causing it have a lot of overlap. I feel bad for the kids.
Kind people do not allow their children to believe for years that their mother abandoned them!
Nah bruh
Women do it all the time thou 🤔
@@TyrillCelestineNo, actually it's the reverse. There's more fatherless home than motherless homes.
@@jenniferj5324because the court always grants custody to the mother..
@lonemaus562 I am speaking of fathers abandoning their families, not custodial arrangements. And that is not true, if the mother is unfit, and the father is, she will not get custody. .
"Well, he may have killed his wife, but did I tell you how he helped me put up my Christmas tree last year" The excuses people make up today is beyond me.
"Nicest guy ever" Is that what his wife would say?
He helped me carry my groceries in the house one time. He couldn’t have murdered his wife.
If it's illogical, the reason is the subconscious. That's what Freud wanted to say, when he argued that the subconscious is illogical, timeless and a third thing.
If it's illogical to you, you're also not involved enough.
This event has it's own logic. Don' t try to understand it by thinking. That's not gonna lead anywhere.
In the 70s, our family of four and then five had one bathroom. Somehow we survived. There was a lot of knocking and begging.
Same! Family of 6 with all girls plus poor dad! A lot of door pounding, like you said, and coordinating. It can be done. But maybe not now because people have this hours long beauty routine.
We had a family of nine with one bathroom. I took up B&W photography and used the single bathroom as a darkroom. Fifty years later, I still remember those desperate bangings on the door.
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Carol is like a rare victim where no one is really saying what a nice person she is. That worries me because I always thought I had immunity from being murdered because I am not a nice person. But this case proves otherwise and it is now giving me tremendous anxiety.
He was able to get away with it for so long because Carol wasn’t a very nice person. She was cheating on her husband and was getting ready to take another man to her sisters wedding. Carol was heartless and everyone knew it. The police didn’t try very hard to ‘solve’ her case.
I think you're referring to the "Only the good die young" rule, but "young" is rather imprecise and as an adult I wouldn't be counting on that as my only means of protection.
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@edwardwong654 why do you call yourself "not a nice person?" It's rare for someone to admit that or even know that about themselves.
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My late husband was always smiling sweetly to everyone but verbally abusive to both me and his own mother behind closed doors. 'Nice' guys may not be so nice to his own family and can also be killers.
Zero lies detected. 👀
How cold must one be to murder their spouse but continue to work for the dead spouses father, take over the father’s business as well as maintain a good relationship with the spouses family. This guy is a master at gaslighting and manipulation. Not a good guy.
People have an ability to compartmentalize. It's not that crazy.
Dude also went to her family’s holiday parties, etc. Psychopath…../
My thoughts as well. A ‘nice’ or ‘good’ guy does not leave his children with no closure, especially for that fkn long. Jeezus, this guy is the epitome of evil just like every other jealous murdering spouse. What he did to his own children is what really gets to me …
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017psychologically, that’s actually not true.
@@Kalleesto What are you talking about? It's not true? Who the heck are you to tell us that it's not true? So, all the psychological literature I've read has been for nought, cause apparently the concept of compartmentalization in psychology is simply not true. Come on.
When I was in the Army, the coldest, most prolific killers were the nicest guys in the company.
You gotta balance it out.
You can’t be a murderous jerk. Everyone suspects the asshole and the weirdo. Never the nice guy.
ying-yang
She cheated
Not in my unit 🤣 but then again I was in a Aviation unit
"A person can be likeable and a killer at the same time." Right! And being nice doesn't mean you get a pass. Thanks for your analysis Dr. Grande!
The police noticed that she was still missing 😂
Ollo Dr. Grande! Your dedication and humor are greatly appreciated! 😉🥰
He buried her on land or put her in the ocean.
Now that's a huge discrepancy.
Not any more with global warming!!!!
That narrows it down...
To paraphrase Lemmy, "His shine wore off as time went on, he wasn't a nice guy after all"🎶🎶🎸
Awesome song❤
I can never really get used to the part where Dr Grande says "now moving to the timeline of the crime. "... especially when couples are the topic. I just know it's going to be bad after that statement. 😥
I hear you lethu6413!
@@wanya_telbornthat's not their point
These are all bad stories.
oh my. don't watch then if you're traumatized by it. I find these crimes and analysis fascinating.
Mike is like my Gramma's old saying,a street angel and fireside devil.
I guess the "nicest guy ever" award might have to be passed on to a new recipient.
Dr. Grande.....I'm not sure how to get through and communicate with you but a wonderful Dr. Grande case is covering the current Houston, TX police/arrest and fire ant attack and subsequent civil lawsuit! Jim C.
"mostly because of the murder part" - Todd Grande
@@jimc6687I think you meant this comment as a stand alone, not a reply. I agree, that’s a good one.
@@cplmpcocptcl6306 I'd consider this an excellent one......the cops have video and witnesses that prove how badly this woman acted back in 2021 and drove dangerously, ignoring their commands and forced them to react as they did yet now expects millions for her bad behavior.....But every time I comment (always nicely and constructively) or suggest a great case like this one either Dr, G or YT blacks me out 100%. It's entirely undeserved and humiliating and the only way I can keep my comments from getting immediately eradicated is by replying to comments and piggybacking.........I hope you can understand my frustration. YT talks big about the freedom of speech. Mine's always G-rated yet silenced. Jim
Yes, the new recipient being the new murderer who’s not a stranger to the victim.
I am flabbergasted at the forgiveness of someone who killed someone and then hid the body and lied and lied and lied.
Covert narcissists appear absolutely wonderful to everybody except the actual family members. It’s a facade to feed their ego and inflate their poor self image but meanwhile there is anger, lots of anger, contempt, control issues, hatefulness and outright unhappiness behind the scenes.
I suspect that’s what is going on here.
That could easily apply to her
Covert narcissists and grandiose narcissists end up in relationships often enough.
I'll be so glad when the "narcissist" label finally drops out of fashion. It is so overused .
Except everybody including his children and those close to him said he was a good person.
I've seen very good people (women included) that are very nice and agreeable get abused absolutely terribly and eventually explode especially if the abuser crosses a redline - a redline in their mind.
It's entirely possible that he was a genuinely very nice person and she was a genuinely terrible person (people said she was pretty terrible) and he eventually exploded.
@@larmondoflairallen4705You are obviously unaware that there are a hell of lot of unhealed adults walking this planet. It's a real condition and transcends nationalities and cultures. You can have an 21 year old female from Ireland and 67 year old male from Japan, both exhibiting the same toxic behaviour. And condition is getting more widespread since advent of social media. So I can't see it going anywhere soon.
My best guess about this...She complained about the house being too small, was unhappy about it...but that was just a tip of her unhappiness. She was unhappy with her marriage, her finances, and mostly herself. Multiple affairs doesn't create happiness, it creates more confusion and isolation. Regarding him, often, the super chill, super nice guy also tends to avoid his own anger, and then tends to blow up when his anger can no longer be denied or avoided. I think he truly loved her, but that night her unfaithfulness triggered his rage and he struck out at her, killing her. Disposing of her body the way he did probably shows his anger and contempt for how she treated him. Overall, a very sad outcome especially for the children.
She seems like a typical narcissistic, hypergamous woman. She was attractive, I'll give her that.
I agree
If she lead a life of cheating and complaining the children were screwed anyway.
Sad outcome for Carol. She married too young....married the wrong guy...got knocked up...trapped in a marriage.... and confused about what to do. Then she got killed.
@@johnmorelli3775 So you are saying constant complaining was not the thing to do. Who would have guessed.
Who's ready to speculate about a situation like this?!
Meeeeee
As long as we're not diagnosing anyone...
Not me, I am stampeding straight to DIAGNOSING - I’m not bound by the same professional ethics 😂
Don’t we love speculating here… 🤭
It's all good and well until someone asks you to support them on Patreon 😂😂😂
A ‘good guy’ does not punch his wife much less kill her. Michael was not kind, Mr. Grande. Kind people do not punch someone much smaller and weaker than them!
This must beat the heck out of listening to patients.
I never got married.
@@Mark-qv4bn Huh? 🤨
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@@Mark-qv4bn I will marry you
@@NickyBlue99His name is Mark with a K, not Marc with a C, so he probably doesn’t swing that way buddy
Hi Dr Grande... I could understand about being cramped with four people in one bathroom, because my household was the same. I could also see that she pissed him off with her lack of gratitude, but I think the fatality of this story entailed more than a simple "push". Lie after lie. Thanks
I thought I was the nicest guy ever...smh
Is your wife still around?
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For now…
@@ellenfoster9764 I thought women do not go for nice guys, and especially not in this case.
Ironically I was just having a conversation today about how we wouldn’t do well in a one bathroom house, so when we were searching it was a deal breaker.
It's easy enough to install an en suite, most cases.
That house was really, really small.
So because she was found to be unfaithful and unhappy with the house everyone decided that she was voluntarily missing. Even though both children said she would never leave them. Of course he was never even investigated. WTF!
Exactly. Poor woman got no justice.
I think this definitely had to do with the time of the crime. I don't think he'd have gotten away with it today with cellphone tech and everything else.
This is a case of poor police work. Nothing was said about investigating her supposed "lovers". If they had followed that angle, maybe her husband wouldn't have been so well liked. Cheaters usually complain about what they don't like about their spouses. The fact that the family just "overlooked" the fact that she never contacted them or her children and continued to have a relationship with the husband speaks volumes, too. Had they investigated this case probably could have been solved when it happened. FYI, most children love their mothers and will claim that they'd never leave them, unless the mother is abusive. They were too young to understand adults actions.
What are you talking about. They investigated and didn’t find evidence enough for a prosecution.
she was that much of a scumbag
Hello from Amman, Jordan, Dr. Grande (on a working trip)!
Never thought my hometown nor my high school would be mentioned in a Dr. Grande video.
Thanks for the video, Dr Grande. Human relationships are complex and don't guarantee everlasting happiness. Marriage can be challenging as it often forces people to stay together even when it's not ideal for their safety and wellbeing.
Especially for the man
@@Jeff-sp7bgbecause men are often unsafe around women 😂😂
@lostandfound5145 statistically yes it's been found 90% of assaults on men are not reported in fact the revised sexual assault stats coming in now show women are the primary aggressors now.
I had forgotten all about the Audi Fox! I wanted one so bad. My dad bought an Opel Manta Luxus instead. But that was just fine!!!!
Everyone thought my X was the most WONDERFUL kind man. He was an evil, cruel, and extremely abusive man. It's something victims don't talk about it. To embarrassing. And why don't you leave? Very hard.
Your ex sounds like a narcissist.
It’s so difficult because everyone will blame you
@@cangrejitamiry Who cares ? That's not an excuse to stay with an abuser. Not leaving an abuser is has more to do with self-esteem than what others will say.
@@djg5950 I left and it took some time until people believed me, that I took the right decision. I would say about 2 months. These are the facts.
@@djg5950 Not leaving an abuser is far more to do with fearing the retribution that will come if you do. Most of the abusers have threatened the victim with her murder, or that of the children/pets/other family members if she dares try. And he has usually laid the groundwork to make that threat seem very possible. The most dangerous time for a woman is when she is leaving, or has just left, an abuser. Nothing to do with "self-esteem", you seem rather ignorant about DV situations.
The house was very small for a family of 4, and I can see Carol's point, however, Michael killed her and that's never right.
Probably, that's mostly because of the murder part
I grew up with both parents and two siblings. We had one house in the UK, and one in Australia when we migrated. We had one combined toilet/bathroom in each house. It’s perfectly functional for a family of 5 , so a family of 4 could do it with ease.
@@just_passing_throughThat’s not so bad, but these people had a son and a daughter sharing a bedroom I assume, since they only had two bedrooms. That’s fine until a certain age. What was he planning on doing when the kids were older? I guess he was remarried by then and went on to have two more children. I wonder how many bedrooms were in the house with wife number 2?
@@TheBOG3 I had a mum, a dad, a brother and a sister. We all lived in the home until, we moved out as adults. It’s really not the end of the world.
@@just_passing_through Depends on when you grew up. I was married to an English born Australian and lived in Australia as well. Many, many people do grow up like you did. My family of 6 shared a bathroom and 3 bedroom house BUT that was in the 50's and 60's. Things are different now. If Michael could have afforded a bigger house they should have gotten one. How long were two kids of opposite sex supposed to share a bedroom? That's the only thing I agree with Carol on tho.
As the saying goes, if you tell the truth you never have to remember anything.
What a lazy police work. Carol didn't get justice.
No.
She was known to be unhappy and unhappy people are known to disappear saying they're going to buy cigarettes or milk.
I worked at Toyota in Torrance where I developed the SuperFunction for their logistics division. Torrance was a very nice town with strong Japanese influences. However there was a huge Mobil plant nearby that looming nearby. Toyota has since relocated to Plano, TX.
Dr G literally outworked everyone else into our algorithmic situations and we’re all better off because of it.
I can't wait for the Dr. Grande on Dr. Grande episode: "...the day I allegedly committed the crime, I would have been vindictive, sadistic, immature,..., yet still remarkably witty..."
Lol..
Love your work Dr. Grande. You are like "home " for me in a sense. You make me feel safe when I'm having trouble sleeping. I lost my Son to Parental Alienation and suffer tremendous heartache. I thank you for your professionalism and cooth. Steph
Agree with your analysis. I remain amazed & saddened at how terrible some people can be😔 Thanks Dr G😊💙💙
He's "nice" because they're not living with him
She was just as " nice"😏🙄
Apparently he was nice and good to EVERYBODY who knew him including other family members and she was terrible to EVERYBODY who knew her and was having an affair.
It is possible that he was genuinely a very nice person and she abused him to the point he exploded.
Now that doesn't change that he killed somebody and should go to jail but nice people do get abused and nice people can lose control of their emotions if pushed enough.
I can empathize with why Michael would be extremely enraged like any man or woman would if they learned their husband or wife committed the ultimate act of betrayal flew into a rage probably didn’t intend to kill her but it happened.
@@retsaMinnavoiG The guy was not man enough to stand up to his wife, or man enough to support her and their children like a man is supposed to. He also was dependent on her father for his job. He killed her because he wanted everything to stay as it was, not accepting that his wife didn't want to be with him and leave things the way they were.
He had this hanging over his head for thirty years. You know he's relieved it's out and done with.
I wonder if his second wife divorced him once he confessed to the murder...
@@chris-in-oceania I think if she was normal she would feel creepy staying with him.
This whole situation is pretty gross… He punched her in the face and ended up murdering her. That’s it. It doesn’t matter if he was a “ nice guy” or a ” kind and laid-back individual” murder is murder. Of course there are different circumstances in every situation. But six years for murder because your partner might leave you so you kill them… It doesn’t seem right. EDIT: yes, he was convicted of man slaughter not murder. I still think it’s absolutely wrong that his wife was killed by his hand and he only spent six years in prison. Especially up until recently people were spending up to 10 years in present just for weed. I just feel like our system is extremely broken.
Murder is not always the same.
There are genuine mitigating circumstances that should be taken into account.
But you're right about drug offences being given decade long sentences.
I think the reason why is because they didn't have enough evidence. I'm not sure if it's right or wrong. But my ex seemed like a really nice guy and was actually a horrible monster. Alot of abusers get everyone to like them and tell people lies about you so that it will be very hard for you to leave due to mass public pressure. Anyways our system is very broken. People kill litteraly babies everyday and are never convicted of it but supported and feel sorry for the baby murderers. But if it's outside the womb then the person is a horrific monster that everyone hates. It litteraly is insane and shows just how stupid and brainwashed ppl are
@@querty8650Yeah, probably not enough evidence
Holy crap! I am a born and raised Torrance California resident, as well as my mother and her two siblings (uncle and aunt). My uncle went to North High and graduated in 1973, my aunt graduated in 1976, and then my mother in 1980. I was class of 2008 (being born in 1990) and my younger brother then followed and graduated in 2011. North Torrance High School was a great school to go to growing up, as are the other 3 high schools in Torrance (Torrance High, West High, and South High) and have had quite a few different celebrities and prominent athletes professionally, attend our schools over the decades. But I have literally never heard of this case before now, and am dying to know if my Uncle David knew these two individuals since he would have been attending North High at the same time, though he was in fact a grade or two younger than them according to the dates Dr. Grande gave about their graduating classes.
Wild stuff though Dr. Grande; I watch basically everyone of your videos, and even though Torrance is an absolutely huge suburb of LA county, I never really thought it'd be featured in one of your videos🤣
Anyways keeps up the great work and never veer away from your elite level dry humor and your classic dry dad jokes!
I love your dry sense of humor Dr. Grande
Also, your videos give an in depth look into these cases. You speak with intelligence. Keep up the good work!
He was either very manipulative to have so many people like him after committing murder or she was just a very horrible person to have so many people take his side for murdering her. Bizarre story.
Very bizarre, hard to say what really happened
I believe the latter part.
Please cover mica and jp miller!
I watched an episode of Law and Order when they were looking for a murderer. Lenny Briscoe (the wonderful Jerry Orbach), jaded after years of being a detective said "It's always the husband." He's right.
They knew he did it but they didn’t like her, so they didn’t pursue him. lol. He practically had to confess to even be punished. Then they got him off after serving only six years.
Right, unless it's the wife
She wanted a bigger house so she could have more space away from him.
The story of the ''likeable muderer''.
Possibly the most evidence free case I've ever heard.
There’s something to be said for living alone. That’s a small house with 2 kids. I mean not murder small, but relationship killer small
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That’s what I was thinking! Way too small & one bathroom for 4 people? That sucks!
700 Sq ft is smallish for one person.
In the 70s, our family of four and then five had one bathroom. Somehow we survived. There was a lot of knocking and begging, lol.
@@kikismama The biggest problem is having two children of the opposite sex. Even welfare will pay for a 3 bedroom apartment if you have 2 kids of the opposite sex. They do not make boys and girls sleep in the same bedroom when the oldest reaches (I think) the age of 6 or 7. There is a cut-off age.
People can be one thing to the outside world and another behind closed doors. My ex was very beloved by everyone he met but at home he was whiney and passive aggressive and super clingy. He'd follow me from room to room. Everyone (except for my best friend) was surprised when I divorced him.
'Whiney and clingy'... you sound like a catch.
My narcissistic ex husband hijacked my family too. He is also a liar and can't remember his stories. My mother asked me how he could be with such a turd as me. So the narcissist killed the wife and the family didn't care. Poor Carol came from a narcissistic family who cant see the narc because they are narcs.
If your own mother is calling you a turd... I wonder if you're the terrible person and he treated you the way you treated him.
@@retsaMinnavoiG you sound like a true narc!
@@retsaMinnavoiG To try to be unbiased here, it probably more likely means her mother never truly gave her affection and conditioned her to unhealthy attachment by being neglectful herself, and as a result she was attracted to dysfunctional relationships which is how she ended up with a narcissistic husband.
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Dr Grande!!! Always great videos. 🎉 Thanks for all the work that must go into making these great stories and analyzing them too!
Nobody was more charismatic and more likable than Ted Bundy was.
That is true
Dr. Grande voice is great.. Love all his video's.. If I can't sleep I sometimes just turn him on and listen. soothing voice this Dr has.. Listened to many of his analysis ..
I thought Dr G was puffing the magic dragon, but then realized I had my playback speed at .75. 😂😂😂
Tried it. You're 💯 on that. He sounds completely wasted. 😄
Dude...have you ever speculated about what would happen in a situation like the Big Bang.....WOAH!
He already speaks so slowly. I always listen to him a 1.5 😂
@@lostandfound5145 Me too, even 1.75 sometimes. I am a native New Yorker and I worked for lawyers. New Yorkers talk fast and don't tolerate slow talkers, especially the lawyers I worked for because they are so busy. They would say, "Get to the point", or "Spit it out already" when I would talk with them. I now suffer with the slow Floridian talkers where I now live now that I retired. Thank God we can control the speed here on TH-cam!
@@rcelestefelix9299 haha! I felt right at home when I went to NY with all the fast talkers 😂 I’ve also moved down south (on the gulf in TX now) & also struggling to slow down with the locals 😂
It's pretty crazy how easy it was to get away with crimes back in the day. It's near impossible these days.
You’re giving him a Lot of credit
As always, thanks, Doc!
I lived this Mr. Nice guy routine to the world and not at home story, when no one was looking. I know others who lived similar realities. Dead wrong except she never gave her side of the story. Dangerous to smear her reputation and give a personality profile on a dead woman. Divorce and settlement is the answer, but sociopaths can't do that even when the evidence is the marriage is over. Narcissistic sociopaths are actors who could win Academy Awards for their ability to fool others. He killed his wife, lied, made up a story. He's a murderer who acted a part of Mr. Nice guy. He lied and said his wife hit his son. The son said it never happened. People don't disappear for the rest of their lives when they have an affair. They don't abandon cars, not use bank accounts and suddenly have no address! He charmed everyone, including her family, the legal system and you, Dr. Grande! Very sad, very evil, very wrong! Might be great for a sensational story and ratings but gives credibility to lies and outright criminal behavior. He had no empathy. He didn't miss her. I could point out flaw after flaw in this presentation and argument, really!
I agree. I usually think Dr G is spot on but this analysis actually made me mad.
I want a diagnosis for once!
😂😂
Oh don’t worry. You have one…..
Probably can get $1M for that tiny house, in Torrance, today !
I can see why sharing one bathroom with 4+ people indefinitely can be a source of contention and eventually a reason to want to separate. I shared one bathroom with two other siblings and it was pretty annoying.
I Grew up in Los Angeles, I remember the Red Onion,But in the Wilshire District . They were a little older than me .
Torrance homes were built for aerospace in the 1940s and 50s. The homes had a small kitchen and a small bathroom. You had to be discipline as a family in the morning.
At this point I can deliver Dr G's opening lines better than Daniel Day Lewis ever could. 🌵
It took the police 6 YEARS to 'notice' she was still missing!? Wow... no words 🤦♂
Separate bathrooms are relationship saving if you can afford it.
Yes. I really don't know how humanity survived without having big houses, multiple bathrooms, private pools and at least 1 mil$ in their accounts. 🤷
I don't know how they managed to form families, procreate and live fulfilling lives. It's a miracle ohh Lord, what a miracle that humans are still around.😂😂😂
Even if you take a shit in a galaxy far away, I still know you have a lot of shit in you. If someone can't share a bathroom with the most intimate person in his/her life, is not good for forming a family, end of story. Life it's never only sunshine and roses. 🤷
Wow these jurys are outrageous!! Basically never go to trial bc you are always gonna be found guilty by these no smarts juries 🙄
She was looking for someone to provide her with the finer things in life like a multi bathroom residence😂
You said the quiet part aloud
I love the sly eye in every video intro!
That little house would now be worth well over $1 million.
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"he went to Cranbrook, that's a private school!"...
Different state though...
Dr. Grande rocks❤
Narcissists are ofen super nice outside the home and controlling and menacing in it
Besides the obvious part the evidence does not indicate that was the case here.
Everybody said she was a terrible person, she was having an affair (possibly multiple) and her own family took his side.
Everybody said he was a good person (including his and her own family).
It's entirely possible she was an abusive and manipulative person and he was a genuinely good person and that he finally lost control of his emotions - which is what the evidence indicates.
Being a nice person doesn't mean you cannot be abused and it does not mean you are an emotionless robot.
That of course does not mean he had a right to do what he did and he deserved to go to jail.
The biggest mistake a lot of guys make is calling the police to report their wife missing. Other than the murder part.
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Why watch a true crime tv show or podcast when you can have Dr. Grande sum everything up in less than 15 minutes
what a weird story!
Given how memory works, I would expect anyone’s story to change over time, guilty or not
Agreed. And sometimes, just because somebody adds details to a story, people twist it as if the person telling the story is now lying; we often hear the “he/she is now changing the story” even though they’re simply adding additional details. Can’t even trust a jury or anyone for that matter.
@@thatisabsolutelykooooge2211 It is not about 'additional details', but conflicting details. Big difference. Also, traumatic events tend to be either blocked out, or locked in.
@@davinasquirrel7672 I believe memory is incredibly fickle and the mind is incredibly powerful.
I've seen people swear they remember things that didn't happen or were vastly different to how they remember and I have memories of things my family have talked about when I was younger, that I logically realised I could not have been there for.
Not to mention fever dreams tend to be locked in as real memories.
Neil D Tyson talked about this at some point, he was chosen for jury duty and the judge asked if any of them would not be able to convict and Tyson said he would have trouble convicting on the evidence of eye testimony alone and the Judge said something like 'would anybody else need more than one eye testimony to convict'.
He rightly pointed out that wasn't actually what he said and the judge was misremembering something he witnessed just prior.
In the 60’s when I was a toddler there was a murder of a woman in my small country town. As such things were extremely rare, the local police got all excited, doing everything by the book, preserving the crime scene, setting up an Incident Room - while they waited for someone from the Murder Squad from Scotland Yard. When turned up he didn’t look at anything. He just said ‘arrest the husband. It’s always the husband’.
Was the husband actually guilty?
@@cristinaratiu4535
Yes
My God what a horrible automatic conclusion.
@@kathyflorcruz552 based on fact.
Of course, it's not ALWAYS the husband but it nearly always is.
Random murders of random people going about their regular day are incredibly rare especially if there is not a lot of evidence to suggest otherwise (like during a break-in or running through a dark park by themselves - both of which should have lots of evidence to corroborate the husband).
Healthy, well adjusted people (especially adults with children and jobs) generally don't just disappear without a trace.
@@kathyflorcruz552Ikr??😮
Case like this scares me…. 1981 being interviewed over the years, hell yes my story would change a little.. wtf
I've seen stories change over one night! I had a co-worker with a TERRIBLE memory.
One day I looked at her and told her firmly that that's not what had happened.
She just gawked at me and said: No?? Then what happened?
She honestly didn't remember the straight facts
If he hadn’t turned into a possessive monster and murdered his wife when she tried to leave him, the moral of the story would be that marrying someone you met as a teenager seldom turns out well. Odd that he’s described as a “good guy.” She responded to her unhappy marriage by having affairs; he responded by committing murder. Sounds like they were both jerks. He wasn’t a good guy.
i think the “” in “good guy” convey sarcasm
I married my first bf whom I met in high school. It did not end well. He always thought the grass was greener and on Christmas Day 2015 he told me he was leaving me and the kids to pursue his prize (ie. his secretary). What a cliche
@@purpleperegrine7295Hell yes. He is a cliche. I hope it doesn’t still hurt. Getting a final divorce decree was the happiest day of my life. Hope you can say the same about yours.
@@kashigataI would be lying to say it doesn’t still hurt. My guess is it always will because I married a person I loved. After the debilitating pain subsided somewhat, the implosion of my marriage made me reflect on myself and who I am, how to raise my kids with an absent father.
I started my law degree March 2016 and was admitted as a lawyer March 2020. I am in control of my life story and choices, not my ex. He is a bit chapter in my life, not the epilogue. Not once did it cross my mind to inflict pain on my ex because of what transpired. I am in a happy place now and the kids have two sets of parents that love them.
@@purpleperegrine7295 Wow, you’re amazing! Thanks for sharing your story. In the end it is a very positive one. 😊
I don't want to speculate if he's a killeeer or a nice guy because that's why I am watching Dr. Grande. For the speculations sake. Grazie mille, Dottore❣️☝️😂
And it never crossed his mind to call the police and say we were arguing and it was an accident. Nice guys don’t have the ability to carry their wife to the river and throw her in it.
".. mostly because of the murder part."
I feel like i have heard this line before....
Excellent video! Thank you.
You lost me at Audi Fox....what a groovy ride.....
It infuriates me that, for decades, Michael encouraged people to believe that Carol abandoned her family. As if killing her wasn't enough - he also had to piss on her memory, even to their children! Unbelievable. I'm glad he confessed. I wish he got more time.
Dr grande you are so interesting i love listening to you 😊
Dr. Grande.....I'm not sure how to get through and communicate with you but a wonderful Dr. Grande case is covering the current Houston, TX police/arrest and fire ant attack and subsequent civil lawsuit! Jim C.
It's troubling how jurors can render a guilty verdict with such scant evidence. Although in this case it turned out that the jury guessed correctly, it doesn't always works that way. By being so undemanding of the prosecutors it opens the door to the government rounding up people and putting them on trial for serious crimes with insufficient proof and relying on a wink and a nod to get the desired result.
An appeals court upheld the conviction over a claim of insufficiency of the evidence.
"Nicest Guy Ever" is actually a huge red flag.
Sometimes.
Then everything is a red flag. Nonsense statement
Also this person, “Having a mother is a red flag!” 😂
Yes you are far safer with an abusive guy who can't control his intake of drugs and alcohol, smacks you around and cheats on you with your better looking friend. That's the keeper 😎
@cybermandan1960 identifies as a fleshlight
OMG! Only one bathroom in the house 😱 That's... that's worse than living in a dump! 🙄 Some pple drive me nuts.
I have come to the conclusion. You are not going to talk yourself out of trouble. Whether you did it or not. Keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.
You don't hear about the people that do...
Something was "SMALL" alright but it wasn't the house. But for real though imagine being fortunate enough to have a home and still complaining about it. She was very ungrateful callous.
This isn't my opinion it's fact.