I used the examples here as baselines along with reading that PhD dissertation over on reddit to make myself a 109 spell dmg/+1all/+1lightning/t1 cast speed/t1 proj speed spark wand. Many thanks for the clear examples.
I would have crafted one beast aspect (which are exclusives too) on both wands here : 16:23, since you only had 4 suffixes here, and having more suffixes in the pool guarantee you higher chance to actually have multiple mod as suffixes, so higher chances to keep the Hatred aura effect. (and also better since you have more exclusive mod so higher chance to hit one and delete the others)
Adding beastcrafts to the mix would be dangerous since they can't be safely removed like crafted mods can. I don't think it makes any sense to use them here.
@@InfiniteMonkeysSA that’s how I got most of them, yeah. There’s gonna be a lot of methods from buying the bases to fossils to harvest spam, and the economy is unpredictable, so I just wanted to start from the clean bases as a point of reference
Very interesting thanks! I've just tried with a craft i need opposite to the one you are showing ( 3 suff and 1 prefix) and i was unlucky with the last recombination. I ended up having 2 suff and 1 pref. Is it possible to retry the last recombination to add the missing suffix?
@@Ruud651 yeah all you have to do is find an item with the one suffix you’re missing, craft as much as you can on it, and do the same for the 3-mod item. The total pool is what matters
Same process except you'd want to make sure you were working with influenced bases whenever the hatred mod was in play, or else you're cutting your odds in half. It doesn't matter which prefix you choose to combine with it, the odds all come from the crafted mods and the total number of mods.
The shield would not be something to recombinate because of the synth base, but there's a pinned explanation in the discord that goes over that process
what about trying to get a +2 wand? say you have to wands with the prefix +1 to all skills on the one and +1 to cold skills on the other (those are TWO prefixes, and NOT one suffix and one PREFIX like in your video) ... so what would someone do then? Also how did you manage to have only one mod on the RARE base of those wands? I tried to do the same thing with prefixes cannot be changed, and when I scour afterwards, I get rid of the unwanted affixes but my item becomes BLUE (magic) instead of rare
The video also shows how to do two prefixes together. To get one mod rares you have to use orbs of annulment, but you can use cannot roll caster to make sure you don't take off the skills mods
So I tried to do similar with a 2h mace. I wanted t1 phys% and flat (prefixes) and t1 dot multi and speed (suffixes). I successfully combined the 2 pairs to a mace with t1 phys% and t1 speed and the other was t1 flat and t1 dot multi. So I multi nodded again and filled prefixes but had one open suffix. And I lost the multi. If I were to try this again, is there a way you can suggest keeping all 4 lines?
I can save the final product by cleaning it up to both t1 prefixes. I’m thinking get a new mace and get t1 hybrid and t1 multi on it, then multimod, add two prefix. Then on the first mace, multimod, and add one prefix one suffix?
I guess my question is, how do I combine one item with 2 prefix and one item with 2 suffix (and maybe 1 prefix) but I can settle for just the 2 suffix.
@@jwei444 Whatever you're doing, the basic rule is that once you have bases that only have the mods that you want on them, fill every affix you can with exclusive crafted mods and then recombinate.
@@ChronicPainless oh no I get that. But if I have one prefix and one suffix, do I want 2 crafted suffixes and one prefix or 1 crafted suffix and 2 crafted prefixes, etc.
would this apply for the same scenario but with the second item having two suffixes instead of two prefixes (keeping the first item with a prefix and suffix)? Would you have to instead metacraft two prefixes and a suffix on the second item?
I might be extremely unlucky or I'm doing it wrong, I'm doing it the other way (Suffix into suffix) So basically I have the desired Suffix and I craft Multi mod + 1 suffix + 1 Prefix on both so thats a total of 3 suffix and 1 prefix on each, ended up in a fail 3 times in a row. Am i doing something wrong?
Are you trying to combine an essence mod? Those are part of the "exclusive" mods list and so this would not work on them. Otherwise it could just be bad luck. On average, missing that 86% chance 3 times in a row will happen to someone if a few hundred people try it. If that's the case, thank you for absorbing the dark side of the variance curve.
Whatever the situation, as long as you're only putting crafted mods and mods that you want in the pool, you're doing it right. Favoring prefixes/suffixes when there's an imbalance is gonna come down to mod rarity. Put more mods in the pool on the rare side.
I made it, the tech is more or less the same: clean bases + multimod = win. I posted a brief outline in the discord but a whole video seemed like overkill
What's the significance of the crafted named mods being prefixes or suffixes in the final recomb? Why are they all not suffixes or 5/6 of them, so that it doesn't block your prefixes?
There’s no such thing as blocking, because if the crafted suffix hits then it can’t be a crafted prefix, so it’s better to have a 50% chance at a 72% chance, than to try to get all 3 to stay with only 3 in the pool
I hit this my first try - the recombs anyways. The bases were difficult. I rolled an absolution shield following a youtubers guide on day 5 of this league and also nailed every roll my first try. Synth 5% life on block implicit, 15% spell block, +3 max chaos, +2 max all res, +153 life, 8% PDR and crafted 50% block. Finally sold it for 500D 2 days ago. Like that shield though, I do not have a character to use this with. So that's next. I am just curious, I saw someone else ask this but your answer isn't visible, why this base and not a higher implicit dmg base?
The plus two base you double meta modded then also had to roll and annul the plus one phys. And it could brick. I feel like personally I would just start from the plus one all base and multi mod, cannot roll attack, prefix lock and add phys. Since at that stage it wasn’t influenced.
@@ChronicPainless Okk thanks, thats why it took me 5 attemps just to get 2 prefix together probably! Also, if I only want to put together 2 prefixes and 1 suffix, would I still use the same method? And from what I understand, the odds at success would be even easier than 3 prefix 1 suffix?
@@ChronicPainless I'm at 11 tries to get just 2 prefixes and 1 suffix together :') the odds from the redditors seem off, like extremely off. just getting 2 prefixes together I have a 15% success rate, not 86% lol
hey! wanted to ask, your build is mainly for sanctum right? i've been trying to find a BV mapper-bosser but looks like everyone's doing 1k EHP bv's lol
assuming you fill the rest with crafted mods, you should be able to get about a 2/3 chance. You can trade some chance for overall success to protect your prefixes if you put 6 total prefixes (2 non-crafted and 4 crafted) and only 3 total suffixes (1 non-crafted and 2 crafted) into the pool as opposed to doing a 5/4 split
@@kopire2324 I did succeed on my second try. I combined 2 + to all gem mods by crating multimod 2 named prefixes on both. Then I crafted multimod named suffix + prefix on that item and combined it with an 1 suffix item with multimodded 2 named prefixes.
from my pov wands work mostly earlygame. after that you can craft a bow and use your chest for a 5 link aura setup, till you have enough to mirror a 12 link wand/dagger for squire. any thoughts?
This comment made me wish there was reactions on yt comments, it would have been a clown emoji XD when u play ssf u always gotta understand that its miles apart from what is achievable in trade. ofc its not impossible but if u think farming a mb in trade is too long of a grind for you, you wont get to play with any high end items in ssf either. But this is also why I love playing both modes, I go to trade for making ridiculous items and play ssf for the nice solo experience of working for every tiny piece i need myself. Also usually u do have plenty of divines in ssf to use on crafting because u dont need them to trade. U probably wanna do something like sanctum, which drops a lot of raw divines.
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Ive seen alot of threads on reddit about recombinator with a wall of text but this here is the most concrete explanation. GJ
Thanks! I really tried to avoid getting into the weeds too much. All the little jump-cuts were me cutting out rambling unhelpful bits.
Man spends 14d and a veiled orb to casually craft a GG wand.
I used the examples here as baselines along with reading that PhD dissertation over on reddit to make myself a 109 spell dmg/+1all/+1lightning/t1 cast speed/t1 proj speed spark wand. Many thanks for the clear examples.
Great video. Next level is 12 link craft with squire :)
That's definitely on the short list of considerations. I'm going to do a stream soon where I'll brainstorm possibilities for the next big one.
This video finally helped me understand recombinating. Thank you.
love your content, thanks for the concrete examples
Super easy to understand, thank you!.
So cool. Great video.
Oh that why I sold so many wands with very expensive price XD, it for recombine
I would have crafted one beast aspect (which are exclusives too) on both wands here : 16:23, since you only had 4 suffixes here, and having more suffixes in the pool guarantee you higher chance to actually have multiple mod as suffixes, so higher chances to keep the Hatred aura effect. (and also better since you have more exclusive mod so higher chance to hit one and delete the others)
Adding beastcrafts to the mix would be dangerous since they can't be safely removed like crafted mods can. I don't think it makes any sense to use them here.
The memes we need more memes
No no no senor don’t do it
Got it first try!
Where do you get the 1 mod rares from? Annul and pray?
you can imprint magic item and regal+annul. if miss just use imprint.
@@InfiniteMonkeysSA that’s how I got most of them, yeah. There’s gonna be a lot of methods from buying the bases to fossils to harvest spam, and the economy is unpredictable, so I just wanted to start from the clean bases as a point of reference
Very interesting thanks! I've just tried with a craft i need opposite to the one you are showing ( 3 suff and 1 prefix) and i was unlucky with the last recombination. I ended up having 2 suff and 1 pref. Is it possible to retry the last recombination to add the missing suffix?
@@Ruud651 yeah all you have to do is find an item with the one suffix you’re missing, craft as much as you can on it, and do the same for the 3-mod item. The total pool is what matters
great guide! what if we just wanted a +2 and 100% spell dmg wand?
Same process except you'd want to make sure you were working with influenced bases whenever the hatred mod was in play, or else you're cutting your odds in half. It doesn't matter which prefix you choose to combine with it, the odds all come from the crafted mods and the total number of mods.
Solid Video! Will you make one for the Shield too?
The shield would not be something to recombinate because of the synth base, but there's a pinned explanation in the discord that goes over that process
"simple" post, lol
what about trying to get a +2 wand? say you have to wands with the prefix +1 to all skills on the one and +1 to cold skills on the other (those are TWO prefixes, and NOT one suffix and one PREFIX like in your video) ... so what would someone do then? Also how did you manage to have only one mod on the RARE base of those wands? I tried to do the same thing with prefixes cannot be changed, and when I scour afterwards, I get rid of the unwanted affixes but my item becomes BLUE (magic) instead of rare
The video also shows how to do two prefixes together. To get one mod rares you have to use orbs of annulment, but you can use cannot roll caster to make sure you don't take off the skills mods
So I tried to do similar with a 2h mace. I wanted t1 phys% and flat (prefixes) and t1 dot multi and speed (suffixes).
I successfully combined the 2 pairs to a mace with t1 phys% and t1 speed and the other was t1 flat and t1 dot multi.
So I multi nodded again and filled prefixes but had one open suffix. And I lost the multi.
If I were to try this again, is there a way you can suggest keeping all 4 lines?
I can save the final product by cleaning it up to both t1 prefixes.
I’m thinking get a new mace and get t1 hybrid and t1 multi on it, then multimod, add two prefix. Then on the first mace, multimod, and add one prefix one suffix?
Not sure how I’d get t1 speed back on to it though.
I guess my question is, how do I combine one item with 2 prefix and one item with 2 suffix (and maybe 1 prefix) but I can settle for just the 2 suffix.
@@jwei444 Whatever you're doing, the basic rule is that once you have bases that only have the mods that you want on them, fill every affix you can with exclusive crafted mods and then recombinate.
@@ChronicPainless oh no I get that. But if I have one prefix and one suffix, do I want 2 crafted suffixes and one prefix or 1 crafted suffix and 2 crafted prefixes, etc.
would this apply for the same scenario but with the second item having two suffixes instead of two prefixes (keeping the first item with a prefix and suffix)? Would you have to instead metacraft two prefixes and a suffix on the second item?
Yes, you've got it.
I might be extremely unlucky or I'm doing it wrong, I'm doing it the other way (Suffix into suffix) So basically I have the desired Suffix and I craft Multi mod + 1 suffix + 1 Prefix on both so thats a total of 3 suffix and 1 prefix on each, ended up in a fail 3 times in a row. Am i doing something wrong?
Are you trying to combine an essence mod? Those are part of the "exclusive" mods list and so this would not work on them. Otherwise it could just be bad luck. On average, missing that 86% chance 3 times in a row will happen to someone if a few hundred people try it. If that's the case, thank you for absorbing the dark side of the variance curve.
@@ChronicPainless No not at all, I guess its just terrible luck, Thank you for the reply Mr Dark Lord 🤣
are items dead if they have 2 prefixes and 1 suffix on the one item or how would you recomb in those situations?
Whatever the situation, as long as you're only putting crafted mods and mods that you want in the pool, you're doing it right. Favoring prefixes/suffixes when there's an imbalance is gonna come down to mod rarity. Put more mods in the pool on the rare side.
Can two suffixes be combined? And at the end two suffixes and two prefixes?
Yeah you can use this tech for anything, as long as you fill your mod pool with only mods you want and crafted mods
Will you be making a video about the 11 link weapon you have on your character or did you mirror it?
I made it, the tech is more or less the same: clean bases + multimod = win. I posted a brief outline in the discord but a whole video seemed like overkill
hello why are u using this base? why not a prophecy wand with 40% spell dmg implicit?
ok i understand , u are very smart phone ahahha
What's the significance of the crafted named mods being prefixes or suffixes in the final recomb? Why are they all not suffixes or 5/6 of them, so that it doesn't block your prefixes?
There’s no such thing as blocking, because if the crafted suffix hits then it can’t be a crafted prefix, so it’s better to have a 50% chance at a 72% chance, than to try to get all 3 to stay with only 3 in the pool
@@ChronicPainless ty
I hit this my first try - the recombs anyways. The bases were difficult. I rolled an absolution shield following a youtubers guide on day 5 of this league and also nailed every roll my first try. Synth 5% life on block implicit, 15% spell block, +3 max chaos, +2 max all res, +153 life, 8% PDR and crafted 50% block. Finally sold it for 500D 2 days ago. Like that shield though, I do not have a character to use this with. So that's next. I am just curious, I saw someone else ask this but your answer isn't visible, why this base and not a higher implicit dmg base?
Because of the Int requirement. I get way more value from the tattoos I can apply than from a tiny bit of increased spell damage.
@@ChronicPainless That's proper. Thank you.
I know it was a recombinators showcase, but wouldn’t it have been cheaper to force the plus phys with harvest?
Not really, no. It wouldn't work on the influenced items, and requires several divs worth of metamods and lifeforce
The plus two base you double meta modded then also had to roll and annul the plus one phys. And it could brick. I feel like personally I would just start from the plus one all base and multi mod, cannot roll attack, prefix lock and add phys. Since at that stage it wasn’t influenced.
Do the crafted mods mather? (the mods you craft with the "Can have 3 crafted mods"??
They have to be ones that have a veiled version
@@ChronicPainless Okk thanks, thats why it took me 5 attemps just to get 2 prefix together probably!
Also, if I only want to put together 2 prefixes and 1 suffix, would I still use the same method? And from what I understand, the odds at success would be even easier than 3 prefix 1 suffix?
@@kopire2324 Yes basically no matter what you just spam crafted mods and mods that you want into the recombinator and eventually you win
@@ChronicPainless I'm at 11 tries to get just 2 prefixes and 1 suffix together :') the odds from the redditors seem off, like extremely off. just getting 2 prefixes together I have a 15% success rate, not 86% lol
@@kopire2324 What mods are you combining?
I am wonder what specters u use ?
Just marionettes so that my guardian blessing can be a nitro-boost steroid when I need it
@@ChronicPainless Okay, thanks.
hey! wanted to ask, your build is mainly for sanctum right? i've been trying to find a BV mapper-bosser but looks like everyone's doing 1k EHP bv's lol
@@Karlobermoller the loadout I’m running now is for sanctum, but cold BV can do anything if you want it to
what do you do when the veiled removes hatred?
recombine another hatred wand on there and go again
@@ChronicPainless
which mods do i craft on the wand with the +2 and extra phys and what mods do i need on the 2. wand? :D
@@toxicrengar7572 you want to make the same pool as before
how high are my odds when i want to combine an item with 1 suffix and 1 prefix with an item wich has only 1 prefix
assuming you fill the rest with crafted mods, you should be able to get about a 2/3 chance. You can trade some chance for overall success to protect your prefixes if you put 6 total prefixes (2 non-crafted and 4 crafted) and only 3 total suffixes (1 non-crafted and 2 crafted) into the pool as opposed to doing a 5/4 split
Did you succeed? After like 11 tries, never succeeded at also putting 1suffix+1prefix with a 1 prefix item. also doing the multimod + 2 named prefixes
@@kopire2324 I did succeed on my second try. I combined 2 + to all gem mods by crating multimod 2 named prefixes on both. Then I crafted multimod named suffix + prefix on that item and combined it with an 1 suffix item with multimodded 2 named prefixes.
Are engraved wands the best base?
I wanted a low int requirement so I could tattoo myself up as much as possible.
from my pov wands work mostly earlygame. after that you can craft a bow and use your chest for a 5 link aura setup, till you have enough to mirror a 12 link wand/dagger for squire. any thoughts?
The tormented spirits enchantment is ridiculously good, and is wand only, so here we are
@@ChronicPainless so you aiming for double haunted?
@@toxicrengar7572 I wanna try it out at least, but I might wind up keeping shield charge
^no spell damage prefix?
Phys as extra cold is nearly identical damage, and also affects explosions
how to craft ur shield
There's a full walkthrough in the crafting channel of the discord
Do 3x prefix next, preferably budget friendly (SSF) where divines aren’t a plenty.
This comment made me wish there was reactions on yt comments, it would have been a clown emoji XD when u play ssf u always gotta understand that its miles apart from what is achievable in trade. ofc its not impossible but if u think farming a mb in trade is too long of a grind for you, you wont get to play with any high end items in ssf either. But this is also why I love playing both modes, I go to trade for making ridiculous items and play ssf for the nice solo experience of working for every tiny piece i need myself. Also usually u do have plenty of divines in ssf to use on crafting because u dont need them to trade. U probably wanna do something like sanctum, which drops a lot of raw divines.
There are 3x prefixes? and I’ll leave the SSF theorycrafting to the SSFers
@@SamiSalamiGER This comment made me wish there was reactions on yt comments, it would have been a clown emoji
Fuck ssf
@@Dx_Ach same XD
shoutout to path of math who did the original recombinator work.