I've been riding dark sides on several of my bikes for almost 10 yrs and never ever had issues. Riding for over 40 years, I have different riding styles. People should look into it and try it. Tire companies make more money off on bike tires than car tires. I use run flat tires which helps alot more in case of flat. With tire technology, car tires have been so much improved.
It is by far the smartest thing one can do using this well designed rain groved tire. So many on my VTX 1800Vtwin site have switched to car tires of this type since 2003' Hell we drove our turbo national drag bikes around town with ten inch slicks and one can obviously feel the resistance to making sharp turn, but no big deal. And never had an issue plugging them. I had 3/8" bolt 6" long get into brand new rear tire, and talk about racket with bolt smacking everything in site by the time I got stopped. Plugged it and fine. Good job Captain showing how well car tire works. So when do we see 15lbs of boost and Airshifter action... Cheers
I own a Yamaha Stratoliner. I run a Yokohama Avid Touring S, 215/60/17 and love it. It makes my speedometer accurate and I run a Dunlop American Elite up front and love it.
Well... I just installed a "Radar 195/65R16" car tire on my 2003 Goldwing. It was tight but got it in place without any prying tools. Looks good too. Also installed Eco beads for balancing.
Kudos, Kyle, for making a running video to show the real lean angles on that tire. Nice work. I agree with you largely on the issue of tire life. I ride a Goldwing. What tire make/model is that? Others who have gone to the darkside have had some difficulty finding a tire that fits inside the swingarm, etc. Can you provide more details? Thanks so much!
What model of Goldwing do you ride? I darksided my 1200 and have had amazing results, but I know the 1500 and 1800s run different sizes. the 1200 has a 15" rim and the 1500 and 1800 have a 16" rim, as well as gradually larger tire sizes as they go along too.
@@Sterling_Silver04 I ride a 1996 GL 1500SE. I've gotten about 10K miles or so out of a Shinko tire this time around, which isn't bad considering my previous experiences with bike tires. I might consider the dark side if I can get a tire similar to yours. What make/model tire was that?
I just switched to darkside on my Honda VTX 1300c and I'm loving it so far. I can't feel much of a difference in handling. I drove through a crazy rain storm last weekend and it did great.
@@Giitzerland so there I was, riding back from Dallas to Oklahoma City, me on my VTX and my wife on her Kawasaki Vulcan S 650. We stopped about a mile North of the state line and we could see the storm off in the distance. We put on our rain gear and headed North, hoping to get lucky and miss the storm as it drifted slowly East. We were not so lucky. We hit the storm and the rain was coming down in sheets. Cars were pulling over due to lack of visibility. We soldiered on, praying not to get hit by a car or big rig driver blinded by the rain. That prayer was answered and we got through after about 15 minutes of downpour. The sun came out in full force and we shed our rain gear which did the best it could keeping us dry. As we set off again, the water that made it through dried quickly in the sun and wind. That Douglas All-Season Walmart tire didn't slip or skid once. Granted, we were going straight down the interstate and my wife's tires did fine also, but still, that car tire made me proud that day.
SO many people asking, and it should have been put in the Description, but here's what Kyle says regarding the tire spec(it's waaay down in the comments ^^): "This is a Sumitomo HTR Z II, 205/50R17. It has a max PSI rating of 51, I have been running mine at 42 with balance beads"...you should only attempt this accepting the risk on your own behalf, not due to any information taken from videos, the risks are obvious if not handled with care, these videos are not advise, but a record of personal experience.
that tire on a car will use normally 30 to 32 PSI pressure, have a question, we will used at the same pressure on the bike? I think we can actually use higher pressre like 40 PSI to try to get same shape of a motorcycle tire. what people think about?
No, I want softer ride, not harder ride. Mine smashes your Azz all day on stock tires. More air volume makes softer ride supporting the same weight with less pressure. Like the guys in Norway with balloon tires with 5 psi. To crawl over sharp terrain. But all weight supported. This is too easy to not understand. Cheers
I noticed your Iron Butt plate backer. What kind of range do you get at highway speeds? I have similar Clearwaters on my current bike,(F700GS) but I'm considering a CTX 1300 Deluxe. I've done an SS1K and a BBS. My next goals are a BBG and a 48/10. Back to my question, what king of range do you get at Iron Butt pace?
Same Wheel Size on my Yamaha Warrior XV1700PC and OEM Tire Size. Coincidentally your Darkside CT looks almost EXACTLY like my new DS/CT. Riken Raptor ZR A/S 225/45R-17XL (W64)? Mine does not have rounded sides though.
@@kyleweber4543 You should, it is recommended to flush both brake and clutch hydraulic fluid every 2 years. I also have a CTX1300 and I did this earlier this year, it is surprising how much faster clutch fluid gets dark compared to brake fluid. Thanks for this video, I'm considering swapping to a C/T on my CTX.
Kyle, is the tire shown in this video a ( 225/45ZR17 Sumitomo HTR Z II 90W ) ? I'm planning on going to the Dark-Side on my CTX1300 and the only Sumitomo with this tread pattern that I can find is the 225/45ZR17 while the OEM size 50ZR17. Your input of the sidewall ratio would be greatly appreciated.
For pulling trailers on my honda gl1500 the car tire wins hands down 195/65/16r and gets about 15 to 20 thousand miles. Would never go back to MT for touring!
My e4 dunlop get really flat in the center about 4 inches and people say flat car tires are dangerous a ridiculous argument, I dont blame you for changing. The dunlop e4 is 14 months old on the front and has cracks all inside each tire groove 160 plus dollar tire I am disappointed no more motorcycle cycle tires for me.
Tire pressure is determined by total weight of bike and rider, to the best ride - being car tire has more volume, less pressure supports the same weight but smoother softer ride removing the hard hits from cracks and joints. It may be that 28 psi is just fine. Rider makes the rules of their ride. Cheers
Ok. I bit. Just ordered your same tire because I like that symmetrical tread pattern and rounded profile. I see they are selling that model out so a slight discount applies. Now I gotta decide which front tire to match it with. Any suggestions? Some similar tread pattern may be best.
I'd have no problem if forks were changed out on my 1800Vtwin to run both tires front and back. I run into major storms, and having more meat on the ground would be huge comfort plus. Cheers
This is a Sumitomo HTR Z II, 205/50R17. It has a max PSI rating of 51, I have been running mine at 42 with balance beads and I have had great results so far. My speedometer says I am going 1-2 mph slower than my actual speed when compared with my GPS unit. You will need to find an independent motorcycle shop that is willing to install the tire for you or install it yourself. I cannot stress enough that this is done at your own risk.
That is a very rounded tread for a car tire. You have something hanging off the side of the tread slapping around. I am seriously thinking about darksiding my Burgman 650. How many miles are on your CTX now. Did you have a high mileage bike before it?
Yeah I tried putting some tape along the side of the tire to show in the video where the tread was touching pavement while cornering. It fell off almost instantly but was worth a try. It is a very round profile tire, perfect for a motorcycle. I purchased the CTX1300 with 300 miles on it a couple years ago and it now has over 25,000 miles. Between my father and I we have had many bikes none that I can say were high mileage. The highest milage bike is his FJR at around 60,000 and still runs great.
It’s also at 42 psi which is probably the tires max. Not necessarily a bad thing just make the profile more rounded with such little weight relative to what it can carry too.
So how did the tire do long term. Any issues that changed your mind about using a car tire? I am considering a ctx 1300 as an upgrade to my 25 year old Royal Star as i get ready to retire and plan some east coast to midwest trips. Also did you have any issues with the heat from the bike? already having a 4 cylinder 1300 motorcycle I would not think the ctx is any worse. Look forward to your next motorcycle video.
So my friend what model of tire is this one. It looks great. I have a 2020, and need to change the back tire..... well it is about time! ~14K miles, not bad!
Thanks for the video. I own and ride the same bike the CTX 1300 Deluxe, same color too. I’m experiencing the same issue with the rear tire, and I’m researching what car tire to use. Over at the CTX 1300 online forum there is lots of riders switching to car tire but as you stated most of them are putting Run Flat tire, I like the look of your choice tire and the tread pattern is great looking too. Any more specifics about what tire it is. And where did you purchase it from. Thanks again. Where in Wisconsin are you, I’m in Chicagoland, and I do lots of riding in Wisconsin.
I believe the tire I chose is a softer rubber compound than your average tire for better grip, more of a sports tire. I ordered my tire from tirerack.com and installed it myself using my harbor freight tire changer with the motorcycle tire attachment and the so called 'duck head'. I placed the freshly mounted tire in my back yard behind a brick wall and inflated it to over 100psi using a remote valve on my air compressor to make absolutely sure that the tire seated properly on the bead and to also check if there were any flaws in the tire from manufacturing. It is extremely dangerous to over inflate a tire to this degree but it is one of the only ways to seat the bead even when using silicone as lubrication when mounting. Once I reduced the pressure to the 42psi that I was going to run it at I went outside to check for any flaws or bulges. I noticed when comparing my GPS unit to my speedometer that I am traveling about 2mph faster than what my speedometer registers. I quickly realized I needed a much more powerful computer to create quality videos and I do plan to do more filming once my computer arrives. I live in Racine and i would be more than happy to meet up and do some riding. Only a few more months until decent riding weather. If you ever have any other questions feel free to leave another comment, I'm jealous of your deluxe model by the way! Thanks for watching and take care!
😊I have seen a cross section of both car tires and motorcycle tires. If you honestly compare there can be no reason for using a car tire. Riding since the 1960s. When Mc tries had a semi square shoulder. Avon , Good Year et all. I wish you all luck. And don’t tell your insurance carrier
The insurance thing is a myth. As long as the tire is D.O.T. approved, it's fine. Stop spreading misinformation about a subject on which you have no knowledge.
@@donaldremington3737 I said nothing even remotely threatening. You have every right to express your opinion. Just as I have every right to counter your opinion with fact. And maybe call you on your BS along the way. Don't take it too hard. Keep the rubber side down and the shiny side up.
This is a Sumitomo HTR Z II, 205/50R17. It has a max PSI rating of 51, I have been running mine at 42 with balance beads and I have had great results so far. My speedometer says I am going 1-2 mph slower than my actual speed when compared with my GPS unit. You will need to find an independent motorcycle shop that is willing to install the tire for you or install it yourself. I cannot stress enough that this is done at your own risk.
@@williambrinkman5135 I think you're wrong. I've seen many times especially young guy's doing burnouts, accelerating like maniacs, and than hard braking. It ll depends on the style of your riding.
Believe me, these sidewalls are very rigid, and thicker than a motorcycle tire. I mounted it, it's stiff and more difficult to mount than a motorcycle tire. As for losing control, you get a flat tire on any vehicle and you can loose control, I've had a flat rear on a bike before and its very difficult to steer. But that said it's definitely an 'at your own risk' deal. That's why I was hesitant to give tire brand and size when I filled this video.
And its all fantasy talk. I've ridded full on blow outs at 100 mph on the rear two up, and no more difficult than a stock tire, where a stock tire may fold up off the side making it hugely risky to loosing control. Cheers
According to Mike Manning, Dunlop Motorcycle Product & Marketing Manager, “There are several considerations when looking at tire design and use for a single-track ‘camber’ vehicle such as a motorcycle vs. a 2-track vehicle like a car or truck. Tire profile, construction and compounds are developed specifically for each type of vehicle.” Why? Because cars and motorcycles handle differently. A lot differently. Take a look at the images of the sports car and the bike negotiating the same sharp left-hand bend. Although both are BMWs, their handling-and the demands on their tires-are remarkably unalike. The bike leans into the bend, rolling onto the inside edge of its tires. The car remains relatively flat or leans out of the curve, placing the vehicle’s weight on the outer edge of the outside tires. Is there any wonder why the tires for each are designed differently to handle the unique forces placed upon them?
blah blah blah....been using care tires on motorcycles for over 10 years-never the slightest issue. After 2 corners, you don't even notice the difference. It's your money and your motorcycle, you put the tires you want on yours and we'll put the tires we want on ours and just agree to disagree. :-)
@@brabus8317 I have been riding my Honda Shadow 600 with Toyo 330 on size 165/80-15" for over 10000km without any trouble. No need for you to buy my free toughts!
Nonsense. A car tire has a flat profile and is designed to stay flat rather than lean over. But Dark Siders claim they work fine and are cheaper and last longer than motorcycle tires.
Just a heads up - if you are going to mount a car tyre on your bike, *speak with your insurance company first!* In case of an insurance claim, you don’t want the insurance company invalidating your insurance for mounting a tyre that is not a motorcycle tyre on a motorcycle. Insurance companies are NOT our friends, so unless you get the ok from them *in writing,* be aware of the possible consequences.
I've been riding dark sides on several of my bikes for almost 10 yrs and never ever had issues. Riding for over 40 years, I have different riding styles. People should look into it and try it. Tire companies make more money off on bike tires than car tires. I use run flat tires which helps alot more in case of flat. With tire technology, car tires have been so much improved.
We ride our drag bikes to bar crawls with 12' wide slicks, And none of us have issues,
And it stands up by itself when parked.
It is by far the smartest thing one can do using this well designed rain groved tire.
So many on my VTX 1800Vtwin site have switched to car tires of this type since 2003'
Hell we drove our turbo national drag bikes around town with ten inch slicks and one can obviously feel the resistance to making sharp turn, but no big deal.
And never had an issue plugging them. I had 3/8" bolt 6" long get into brand new rear tire, and talk about racket with bolt smacking everything in site by the time I got stopped. Plugged it and fine.
Good job Captain showing how well car tire works.
So when do we see 15lbs of boost and Airshifter action...
Cheers
I own a Yamaha Stratoliner. I run a Yokohama Avid Touring S, 215/60/17 and love it. It makes my speedometer accurate and I run a Dunlop American Elite up front and love it.
Well... I just installed a "Radar 195/65R16" car tire on my 2003 Goldwing. It was tight but got it in place without any prying tools. Looks good too. Also installed Eco beads for balancing.
What make and size is the tire? I want one like that for my 1300 CTX
How much is a standard size tyre there for comparison. A pair of standard size tyres in the uk is about £350 fitted.
Kudos, Kyle, for making a running video to show the real lean angles on that tire. Nice work. I agree with you largely on the issue of tire life. I ride a Goldwing. What tire make/model is that? Others who have gone to the darkside have had some difficulty finding a tire that fits inside the swingarm, etc. Can you provide more details? Thanks so much!
What model of Goldwing do you ride? I darksided my 1200 and have had amazing results, but I know the 1500 and 1800s run different sizes. the 1200 has a 15" rim and the 1500 and 1800 have a 16" rim, as well as gradually larger tire sizes as they go along too.
@@Sterling_Silver04 I ride a 1996 GL 1500SE. I've gotten about 10K miles or so out of a Shinko tire this time around, which isn't bad considering my previous experiences with bike tires. I might consider the dark side if I can get a tire similar to yours. What make/model tire was that?
@@stevesomers7366 I don't know what he was running, but I run a Petlas PT311 in 165 80R 15, but to my knowledge they don't make it in 16"
I just switched to darkside on my Honda VTX 1300c and I'm loving it so far. I can't feel much of a difference in handling. I drove through a crazy rain storm last weekend and it did great.
What tire model do you used?
Just going to tease us with a successful experience, without any specifics, huh? I see how you are! :P
@@aislanzanato7935 Douglas All-Season from Walmart. Works great and less than $100
@@Giitzerland so there I was, riding back from Dallas to Oklahoma City, me on my VTX and my wife on her Kawasaki Vulcan S 650.
We stopped about a mile North of the state line and we could see the storm off in the distance. We put on our rain gear and headed North, hoping to get lucky and miss the storm as it drifted slowly East. We were not so lucky. We hit the storm and the rain was coming down in sheets. Cars were pulling over due to lack of visibility. We soldiered on, praying not to get hit by a car or big rig driver blinded by the rain. That prayer was answered and we got through after about 15 minutes of downpour.
The sun came out in full force and we shed our rain gear which did the best it could keeping us dry.
As we set off again, the water that made it through dried quickly in the sun and wind.
That Douglas All-Season Walmart tire didn't slip or skid once. Granted, we were going straight down the interstate and my wife's tires did fine also, but still, that car tire made me proud that day.
what PSI are you running?
Thanks for talking about dark siding jewelry out on video
SO many people asking, and it should have been put in the Description, but here's what Kyle says regarding the tire spec(it's waaay down in the comments ^^): "This is a Sumitomo HTR Z II, 205/50R17. It has a max PSI rating of 51, I have been running mine at 42 with balance beads"...you should only attempt this accepting the risk on your own behalf, not due to any information taken from videos, the risks are obvious if not handled with care, these videos are not advise, but a record of personal experience.
that tire on a car will use normally 30 to 32 PSI pressure, have a question, we will used at the same pressure on the bike? I think we can actually use higher pressre like 40 PSI to try to get same shape of a motorcycle tire. what people think about?
Just installed a car tire on my. Put 40lbs in it and it is very hard. Going to bump it down to 35.
No, I want softer ride, not harder ride. Mine smashes your Azz all day on stock tires.
More air volume makes softer ride supporting the same weight with less pressure.
Like the guys in Norway with balloon tires with 5 psi. To crawl over sharp terrain. But all weight supported.
This is too easy to not understand.
Cheers
I noticed your Iron Butt plate backer. What kind of range do you get at highway speeds? I have similar Clearwaters on my current bike,(F700GS) but I'm considering a CTX 1300 Deluxe. I've done an SS1K and a BBS. My next goals are a BBG and a 48/10. Back to my question, what king of range do you get at Iron Butt pace?
about 38 mpg at freeway speeds, the 1300 has a 5 gallon tank.
Same Wheel Size on my Yamaha Warrior XV1700PC and OEM Tire Size. Coincidentally your Darkside CT looks almost EXACTLY like my new DS/CT. Riken Raptor ZR A/S 225/45R-17XL (W64)? Mine does not have rounded sides though.
Have you done a clutch flush on your motorcycle
No I have not, I've never heard of that being done on these bikes.
@@kyleweber4543 You should, it is recommended to flush both brake and clutch hydraulic fluid every 2 years. I also have a CTX1300 and I did this earlier this year, it is surprising how much faster clutch fluid gets dark compared to brake fluid. Thanks for this video, I'm considering swapping to a C/T on my CTX.
Kyle, is the tire shown in this video a ( 225/45ZR17 Sumitomo HTR Z II 90W ) ? I'm planning on going to the Dark-Side on my CTX1300 and the only Sumitomo with this tread pattern that I can find is the 225/45ZR17 while the OEM size 50ZR17. Your input of the sidewall ratio would be greatly appreciated.
"This is a Sumitomo HTR Z II, 205/50R17. It has a max PSI rating of 51, I have been running mine at 42 with balance beads" way down in comments.
For pulling trailers on my honda gl1500 the car tire wins hands down 195/65/16r and gets about 15 to 20 thousand miles. Would never go back to MT for touring!
My e4 dunlop get really flat in the center about 4 inches and people say flat car tires are dangerous a ridiculous argument, I dont blame you for changing. The dunlop e4 is 14 months old on the front and has cracks all inside each tire groove 160 plus dollar tire I am disappointed no more motorcycle cycle tires for me.
There's are many better options for the VTX, especially ethe 1800.
A common thread. Seldom do users talk about tire pressure ! The most important part of tire maintenance
Do you run the recommended tire pressure on the tire, or recommended tire pressure listed on the bike?
Tire pressure is determined by total weight of bike and rider, to the best ride - being car tire has more volume, less pressure supports the same weight but smoother softer ride removing the hard hits from cracks and joints.
It may be that 28 psi is just fine.
Rider makes the rules of their ride.
Cheers
@@Philscbx more mis information.
What ever is listed has zero to do with anything - it's adjusted to what is needed for best ride control and comfort.
The Mandatory Common Sense Factor,
if missing, always ends in disaster.
Ok. I bit. Just ordered your same tire because I like that symmetrical tread pattern and rounded profile. I see they are selling that model out so a slight discount applies. Now I gotta decide which front tire to match it with. Any suggestions? Some similar tread pattern may be best.
I just run a shinko touring/hard compound front tire and it works just fine.
@@kyleweber4543 My choice was the Continental Sport Attack 2 as my front tire for it's speed rating and stickiness.
I'd have no problem if forks were changed out on my 1800Vtwin to run both tires front and back.
I run into major storms, and having more meat on the ground would be huge comfort plus.
Cheers
What is the brand an size tire did you choose?
This is a Sumitomo HTR Z II, 205/50R17. It has a max PSI rating of 51, I have been running mine at 42 with balance beads and I have had great results so far. My speedometer says I am going 1-2 mph slower than my actual speed when compared with my GPS unit. You will need to find an independent motorcycle shop that is willing to install the tire for you or install it yourself. I cannot stress enough that this is done at your own risk.
hi there >>> i think you changed your exhuast .. is it dual ?? and which brand ?
It's stock exhaust I didn't change it.
Nice i just picked up a rikon raptor ct for my ctx1300
Kyle, have you done a valve adjustment on your bike? If so at how many miles
No, i haven't done valve adjustment yet.
That is a very rounded tread for a car tire. You have something hanging off the side of the tread slapping around. I am seriously thinking about darksiding my Burgman 650. How many miles are on your CTX now. Did you have a high mileage bike before it?
Yeah I tried putting some tape along the side of the tire to show in the video where the tread was touching pavement while cornering. It fell off almost instantly but was worth a try. It is a very round profile tire, perfect for a motorcycle. I purchased the CTX1300 with 300 miles on it a couple years ago and it now has over 25,000 miles. Between my father and I we have had many bikes none that I can say were high mileage. The highest milage bike is his FJR at around 60,000 and still runs great.
It’s also at 42 psi which is probably the tires max. Not necessarily a bad thing just make the profile more rounded with such little weight relative to what it can carry too.
WHAT SIZE CAR TIRE
205 50 17
So how did the tire do long term. Any issues that changed your mind about using a car tire? I am considering a ctx 1300 as an upgrade to my 25 year old Royal Star as i get ready to retire and plan some east coast to midwest trips. Also did you have any issues with the heat from the bike? already having a 4 cylinder 1300 motorcycle I would not think the ctx is any worse. Look forward to your next motorcycle video.
So my friend what model of tire is this one. It looks great. I have a 2020, and need to change the back tire..... well it is about time! ~14K miles, not bad!
How many miles on your rear tire so far ? And do you still enjoy the benefits
Of this tire
Only a couple thousand miles so far, nothing but rain so far this year where I live. Yes I still love my car tire, I'm not going back to mc tire.
would a 205/50/17 work on there?
that's the size I have, fits perfect. The brand of tire I used is in these comments somewhere. Works great i'm still really happy with it.
same problem on my 05 yamaha venture 15 inch rear no one stocks it
Thanks for the video. I own and ride the same bike the CTX 1300 Deluxe, same color too. I’m experiencing the same issue with the rear tire, and I’m researching what car tire to use. Over at the CTX 1300 online forum there is lots of riders switching to car tire but as you stated most of them are putting Run Flat tire, I like the look of your choice tire and the tread pattern is great looking too. Any more specifics about what tire it is. And where did you purchase it from. Thanks again. Where in Wisconsin are you, I’m in Chicagoland, and I do lots of riding in Wisconsin.
I believe the tire I chose is a softer rubber compound than your average tire for better grip, more of a sports tire. I ordered my tire from tirerack.com and installed it myself using my harbor freight tire changer with the motorcycle tire attachment and the so called 'duck head'. I placed the freshly mounted tire in my back yard behind a brick wall and inflated it to over 100psi using a remote valve on my air compressor to make absolutely sure that the tire seated properly on the bead and to also check if there were any flaws in the tire from manufacturing. It is extremely dangerous to over inflate a tire to this degree but it is one of the only ways to seat the bead even when using silicone as lubrication when mounting. Once I reduced the pressure to the 42psi that I was going to run it at I went outside to check for any flaws or bulges. I noticed when comparing my GPS unit to my speedometer that I am traveling about 2mph faster than what my speedometer registers. I quickly realized I needed a much more powerful computer to create quality videos and I do plan to do more filming once my computer arrives. I live in Racine and i would be more than happy to meet up and do some riding. Only a few more months until decent riding weather. If you ever have any other questions feel free to leave another comment, I'm jealous of your deluxe model by the way! Thanks for watching and take care!
That's where I bought my 1800VTwin Neo in Racine.
Trailered it back to Mpls.
But while there took a local tour to the covered bridge.
Cheers
Great channel! Where in wisconsin are you? I own a 1300 Deluxe and have yet to see another 1300 standard or deluxe. I’m in Brookfield.
I'm in Racine, we're practically neighbors haha! yeah it's rare to see another CTX1300 in the wild.
I use a car tire on my ctx1300. heavy bike = car tire. make sense for me
seems like it's riding just fine with that tire. is that the stock exhaust?
Yes it is stock exhaust
Also, it's a summer 'sports' tire I think. It feels like it has lots of grip.
Wow no negative comments! There is hope for politics yet!
😊I have seen a cross section of both car tires and motorcycle tires. If you honestly compare there can be no reason for using a car tire. Riding since the 1960s. When Mc tries had a semi square shoulder. Avon , Good Year et all. I wish you all luck. And don’t tell your insurance carrier
The insurance thing is a myth. As long as the tire is D.O.T. approved, it's fine. Stop spreading misinformation about a subject on which you have no knowledge.
@@westleywalsh8188 sounds threatening. Have I no right to express my opinion ? Have a nice day
@@donaldremington3737 I said nothing even remotely threatening. You have every right to express your opinion. Just as I have every right to counter your opinion with fact. And maybe call you on your BS along the way. Don't take it too hard. Keep the rubber side down and the shiny side up.
sise tire ?
This is a Sumitomo HTR Z II, 205/50R17. It has a max PSI rating of 51, I have been running mine at 42 with balance beads and I have had great results so far. My speedometer says I am going 1-2 mph slower than my actual speed when compared with my GPS unit. You will need to find an independent motorcycle shop that is willing to install the tire for you or install it yourself. I cannot stress enough that this is done at your own risk.
I got 13,000 miles out of dunlop tires. Just installed Michelin commannder 2 and planning to get at least 20,000 out of it.
I got less than 6400 miles from a 200/55-17 Michelin Commander 2 on my CTX1300
@@peopler2stupid165 just regular riding.I don't purposefully destroy my tires.
@@brabus8317 I dont think anyone who ownes these bike purposely destroy their tires... I could be wrong. I got 5k out of my last new tire.
@@williambrinkman5135 I think you're wrong. I've seen many times especially young guy's doing burnouts, accelerating like maniacs, and than hard braking. It ll depends on the style of your riding.
@@brabus8317 but on CTX1300s? I dont even know young guys who know what the bike is.
It's legal..? 🤔
Yes, it's a DOT certified tire.
@@kyleweber4543 Not in Italy, I think... 🤔
From what I’ve read you can lose control with a sudden pressure loss on a car tire. They don’t have the rigid sidewall that a motorcycle tire has.
Believe me, these sidewalls are very rigid, and thicker than a motorcycle tire. I mounted it, it's stiff and more difficult to mount than a motorcycle tire. As for losing control, you get a flat tire on any vehicle and you can loose control, I've had a flat rear on a bike before and its very difficult to steer. But that said it's definitely an 'at your own risk' deal. That's why I was hesitant to give tire brand and size when I filled this video.
And not to mention your old lady might leave you
Ct on a MC
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And its all fantasy talk. I've ridded full on blow outs at 100 mph on the rear two up, and no more difficult than a stock tire, where a stock tire may fold up off the side making it hugely risky to loosing control.
Cheers
According to Mike Manning, Dunlop Motorcycle Product & Marketing Manager, “There are several considerations when looking at tire design and use for a single-track ‘camber’ vehicle such as a motorcycle vs. a 2-track vehicle like a car or truck. Tire profile, construction and compounds are developed specifically for each type of vehicle.” Why? Because cars and motorcycles handle differently. A lot differently. Take a look at the images of the sports car and the bike negotiating the same sharp left-hand bend. Although both are BMWs, their handling-and the demands on their tires-are remarkably unalike. The bike leans into the bend, rolling onto the inside edge of its tires. The car remains relatively flat or leans out of the curve, placing the vehicle’s weight on the outer edge of the outside tires. Is there any wonder why the tires for each are designed differently to handle the unique forces placed upon them?
blah blah blah....been using care tires on motorcycles for over 10 years-never the slightest issue. After 2 corners, you don't even notice the difference. It's your money and your motorcycle, you put the tires you want on yours and we'll put the tires we want on ours and just agree to disagree. :-)
@@rogerwhite7719 I can't imagine my motorcycle with a car tire
The marketing managers want you to buy expensive tires. Below a bideo on a MC with a CT
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@@manuhonkanen2111 i don't buy your argument. There is a reason why motorcycle tires are shaped differently than an automobile tires.
@@brabus8317 I have been riding my Honda Shadow 600 with Toyo 330 on size 165/80-15" for over 10000km without any trouble. No need for you to buy my free toughts!
Nonsense. A car tire has a flat profile and is designed to stay flat rather than lean over. But Dark Siders claim they work fine and are cheaper and last longer than motorcycle tires.
Just a heads up - if you are going to mount a car tyre on your bike, *speak with your insurance company first!*
In case of an insurance claim, you don’t want the insurance company invalidating your insurance for mounting a tyre that is not a motorcycle tyre on a motorcycle.
Insurance companies are NOT our friends, so unless you get the ok from them *in writing,* be aware of the possible consequences.
EXACTLY.
Sound advice.
@@GPz84 You wouldn’t believe how many times i’ve been flamed for saying that in a dark side thread!
I read your review 10 things I hate about my CTX 1300. Boy, you can whine. You'd better buy a Vespa or a Prius. 💤💤 ( Car Tires on motorcycles 🫣🤣)