@@nirajshrestha5621 Imagine being an incredibly poor fourth worlder and telling an European to cope harder. Ahhahahaahaha. 😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦 Yeah, i'll try to cope, somehow. With my brand new furniture that i am buying right now, and sneakers and clothing and chocolate. While suntaning here in southern Europe.
@@lacdirk then thats their problem that they created on their own they could easily just say screw it and sell or rent the thing out to cover the cost, but they chose not to you cant complain about something when you created the issue
@@lacdirkwe Did understand everything and they are Still Stupid and Dumb........... They brought this to themselves.......did they think that those oligarchs will at quiet as they take their properties?..... They are government they should have thought through....hallo
Sure thing. The owner just needs to come to Italy, prove they own the yacht, and that they didn't buy it using the proceeds of a crime, prove that they paid the requisite taxes and didn't support an imperialist, genocidal regime. Easy peasy.
@@lacdirkdid you say the same thing about Londongrad? Everything is fine when you're getting that dirty money, peek "western values". Who's gonna park their dirty money with you now?
@@lacdirkCharge them for what exactly? You're just commenting without reasoning. They're business men not politicians and even if they were politicians you'd need a strong case against them specifically. They've been coming to Italy for years without any problem, the only reason their properties are being seized is because of political reasons not legal reasons and if these business men were to sue the Italian government in any court of law, the government would lose because those business men didn't break any laws.
Clearly no one here have experienced law enforcement seizing or impounding property. It needs to be in same condition when released otherwise you can get sued. This prevent law enforcement’s using your goods as target practice
@@JamesSmith-ix5jdGood morning! We are glad that you have finally woken up. You slept for a very long time and therefore a lot of events happened in the world. You will be very interested to know that the USSR ceased to exist 33 years ago.
The stupidest thing to possibly do. Literally cost them more money to freeze the assets!! Beside they are citizens and it’s private property. But hey I wouldn’t mind y’all paying for my Electric bill, boat slip rent, engine maintenance, pulling it out of the water for a full inspection! Doing me a favor!
@@ruthhenry9577when one seize one’s assets just because that individual makes business with someone you don’t like it. Not a single state arrest or seize yours or anyone’s assets because that individual have to deal with someone you don’t like it except EU and US, but those states can have more than deals, financial interests with despicable persons and is ok, perfectly fine.
Italy's governmental bureaucracy and corruption likely wastes more money in a single day than the stated costs of maintenance that they have having a cry about for this boat. Slow news day
Only if you're a criminal or part of a criminal regime. Which, to be fair, is going to include an awfully large percentage of today's high-wealth individuals.
You seem to not care about the concept of property rights that underpins the entire western economic system. If things went according to your feelings then you can expect an economic depression as billions of assets leave for other places
I remember when personal property of certain people in Germany was seized in 1940's ., It is not clear when and under which circumstances the personal property of Russian citizens will be released , or why it was seized in the first place. Of course , the word " temporary" does not include the time frame, is it a month, year, decade, a lifetime, or several generations have to pass before the property is returned.
Fine. So is Italy, truth be told. Soloviev's villas were also impounded, and were used to house Ukrainian refugees. Yachts are just useless, and if the owner does not come to claim them they should be scuttled in the middle of the Atlantic.
I do t wish to be a Italian tax payer-to pay for all this stupid things and the oligarchs happy now there is someone paying all things for them. Later they will sue Italian government because his yacht is not in proper order and devalue for past few years. They will make another money after from Italian government. 😂😂😂😂😂
Only fitting that the consequences for what should be illegal seizures should be a huge financial burden. Hopefully the costs will go way past the value of the yachts
Like the US the Italians have learned that they can't sell or use the seized yachts, legally have to maintain them at their own expense and that NOBODY wants to buy them because of who they belong to, everyone is afraid of Spetsnaz or Wagner showing up on the seas to reclaim them on behalf of the rightful owners 😅
@gregorywilson2124, when a bank freezes your account, nobody can withdraw or deposit from it. But the money is still there. The bank can not take that money for themselves. The same goes with sanctions.
@@Fabbiebeats Elon is definitely powerful, and he is definitely anti-western (and hence anti-American). While he clearly has too much influence on the US, it's not like he's part of the ruling caste. That said, if he would credibly be accused of supporting genocide, fascism, ethnic cleansing etc in legally enforable way (i.e. he could be convicted in an international court of law), I'ld be supporting of prosecuting him.
Free maintenance, who cant complain. Also when their assets get unfrozen due to illegal seizure I'm sure that someone will have to compensate them (legal fees etc) XD
The oligarch should continue paying the maintenance fees, or accumulate debt if he/she refuses. As soon as the debt passes the value of the yacht, then it can be confiscated 👍🏾
Let them pay for maintenance if they don't want them to be worthless when the sanctions are potentially taken away. Or just return them, West isn't exactly doing as much as we are saying anyway.
Well they are not given visas to come nor is ruble accepted. If you read law if an item is seized or impounded then its need to be in the same condition when it’s released otherwise you get sued ..duh
@@jvjd..and that's why I said that they should return it otherwise. It's not exactly a regular situation to begin with, but they decided to get after it for some reason.
Hey, hands off. Ill be taking these confiscated assets. Ill be using this for my endeavors and tasks. Some of these would be delivered to Russia and some would be delivered to Mainland Japan.
Funny how Russian businessmen are always presented as oligarchs.
Because some of them are? They steal money from normal people.
western media doesn’t know the meaning of oligarch.
But the USA just businessmen.
They don't even know what oligarch definition is anymore. 😅
because they are
Stupidity is stealing expensive things and then go on complaining that you can't maintain them 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂. Imagine the people who own. They will laugh at this.
@@AbdulNajeed-ex5ocyes, they laugh and have bought another one already
Its real owner was like.... thanks for maintaining my yatch for free. 😂
When its Russian its called oligarch, when its your master, USA, its called entrepreneur.
@@Just_another_Euro_dude cope harder.
@@nirajshrestha5621 Imagine being an incredibly poor fourth worlder and telling an European to cope harder. Ahhahahaahaha. 😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦 Yeah, i'll try to cope, somehow. With my brand new furniture that i am buying right now, and sneakers and clothing and chocolate. While suntaning here in southern Europe.
@@doubletap-z8cnato clown when he sees someone who doesn't dickride his master USA
@@Just_another_Euro_dude and being depraved surrounded by emotional/spiritual parasites
Yea u do make a point don't listen to these snowflakes 😭
When are they taking netanyahu's bicycle?
After nana addo golden head..
@@michaelasamoah2390 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😁
They need to implant iron balls to act.
@@michaelasamoah2390 😂😂😂😂
How humiliating .. they team up for unnecessary war and losses miserably
this is so dam funny to me
they literally took a 65 million yacht and still complaining
Because it's just impounded. They can't sell it or use it, but they have to maintain it.
@@lacdirk then thats their problem that they created on their own
they could easily just say screw it and sell or rent the thing out to cover the cost, but they chose not to
you cant complain about something when you created the issue
@lacdirk they can just release it you know. No one is stopping Italian authorities unless they have lost their sovereignty.
Can they seize my house please? I got all kind of stuff they can fix for me.
This is one of the dumbest stories of I ever seen in my life.
Then you didn't understand much of it.
@@lacdirkwe Did understand everything and they are Still Stupid and Dumb...........
They brought this to themselves.......did they think that those oligarchs will at quiet as they take their properties?.....
They are government they should have thought through....hallo
Perhaps they should return the stolen property.
Sure thing. The owner just needs to come to Italy, prove they own the yacht, and that they didn't buy it using the proceeds of a crime, prove that they paid the requisite taxes and didn't support an imperialist, genocidal regime. Easy peasy.
You talking about Russians in Ukraine right?
@@lacdirk the owner is russian, not american lol
@@lacdirkdid you say the same thing about Londongrad? Everything is fine when you're getting that dirty money, peek "western values". Who's gonna park their dirty money with you now?
Russians are under no legal obligation to prove to Italians how they aquired their property
This is the funniest thing ever, they basically stole a yatcht and realized damn its actually eating from their poeckets, imagine that
How dumb can a country be?
Me: meet the EU
Just give back to the owner!
As long as they come and get it in person, so they can be apprehended and charged.
@@lacdirk why don't they charge them? You don't need to be physically present to be charged.
@@chodaboydc They were charged with crimes. That's why they are under sanctions.
@@lacdirk no they weren't. Sanctions are almost always political.
@@lacdirkCharge them for what exactly? You're just commenting without reasoning. They're business men not politicians and even if they were politicians you'd need a strong case against them specifically. They've been coming to Italy for years without any problem, the only reason their properties are being seized is because of political reasons not legal reasons and if these business men were to sue the Italian government in any court of law, the government would lose because those business men didn't break any laws.
You can’t mate. Don’t you hear what that lawyer say : it’s private property and you can’t take it 😂😂😂😂😂
Private property paid for by illegal means is forfeit. It's how we take away the property of mafia bosses as well as that of their henchmen.
Clearly no one here have experienced law enforcement seizing or impounding property. It needs to be in same condition when released otherwise you can get sued. This prevent law enforcement’s using your goods as target practice
If the seizing is being lifted, did the owner should pay all the maintenance cost?
@@arghost9798no because they didn’t ask the goods to be impounded
lol so sanctions are costing the EU to lose money? 😂 😂
Always have, mate xD
This is the problem. The assets were frozen instead of confiscated. Impotent sanctions
A crime is not solved by another crime
Thief
@@jvjd That is literally how the justice system works.
Bwahaha , stolen property hard to maintain?
These are private properties
not in the EUSSR
@@JamesSmith-ix5jdGood morning!
We are glad that you have finally woken up.
You slept for a very long time and therefore a lot of events happened in the world.
You will be very interested to know that the USSR ceased to exist 33 years ago.
Private property paid for by illegal means is forfeit. It's how we take away the property of mafia bosses as well as that of their henchmen.
So when America invaide other country no seize there asset
they should give them back to the original owners this is stealing
Highly Illegal ⚖️
*Legal
Yes. The life of poeple vietnam . Afghanistan. Iraq. Sria. Was not important@@Stebetto3
Who are the real pirates here? Their worst than the Somali pirates lol 😂
Pirates of the caribbean.
private property btw
The stupidest thing to possibly do. Literally cost them more money to freeze the assets!!
Beside they are citizens and it’s private property.
But hey I wouldn’t mind y’all paying for my Electric bill, boat slip rent, engine maintenance, pulling it out of the water for a full inspection! Doing me a favor!
Private property paid for by illegal means is forfeit. It's how we take away the property of mafia bosses as well as that of their henchmen.
@@ruthhenry9577when one seize one’s assets just because that individual makes business with someone you don’t like it. Not a single state arrest or seize yours or anyone’s assets because that individual have to deal with someone you don’t like it except EU and US, but those states can have more than deals, financial interests with despicable persons and is ok, perfectly fine.
Being a vassal state of the US does come with its own problems.
What even is an Oligarch at this point?
A businessman from a country you dont like?
for those who want's to "sell" it. no one would buy stolen goods
Italy's governmental bureaucracy and corruption likely wastes more money in a single day than the stated costs of maintenance that they have having a cry about for this boat. Slow news day
Haha so. by freezing them are they forced then to have to dock them for free? 😂Saving 13,000 a month- nice!
Meanwhile the Russian tycoons are making more billions...after
Buying property in Europe is risky this days just look at Ebrahimovic
Only if you're a criminal or part of a criminal regime.
Which, to be fair, is going to include an awfully large percentage of today's high-wealth individuals.
You seem to not care about the concept of property rights that underpins the entire western economic system. If things went according to your feelings then you can expect an economic depression as billions of assets leave for other places
@@simonl4657 Property paid with the proceeds of criminal enterprises have never been protected.
@@lacdirk you mean the criminal regime of the US & EU.😊😊😊
@lacdirk Hadn't been so picky, when accepted the money.
Maintaining a white Elephant 😂😂😂😂
I remember when personal property of certain people in Germany was seized in 1940's .,
It is not clear when and under which circumstances the personal property of Russian citizens will be released , or why it was seized in the first place.
Of course , the word " temporary" does not include the time frame, is it a month, year, decade, a lifetime, or several generations have to pass before the property is returned.
Imagine the debauchery that has happened on those boats.
How are the other nato/eu impounders coping????
Fine. So is Italy, truth be told. Soloviev's villas were also impounded, and were used to house Ukrainian refugees. Yachts are just useless, and if the owner does not come to claim them they should be scuttled in the middle of the Atlantic.
Why to be seized if it’s for someone not government
Because that government is just an organised crime ring in control of a country.
Russia is not somalia, libya or afghanistans
Oligarchs are investors . Public investors.
now pay that maintenance😂😂😂
This is theft straight up. These are individuals on what basis is there personal property being seized.
Consequences of misguided aggression against Russia
Can the Italian government seize my property as well, I live in the US 😂
So The west can't even afford to punish Russia anymore 😂😂
It is a private asset. There is No legal base to seize it.
So they stealing 😂 because of Ukraine?
What is the defence between oligarchs and a tech entrepreneurs asking for a friend
*Seize means involved war Crimes*
Maintain crew and oil? Why that?
I do t wish to be a Italian tax payer-to pay for all this stupid things and the oligarchs happy now there is someone paying all things for them. Later they will sue Italian government because his yacht is not in proper order and devalue for past few years. They will make another money after from Italian government. 😂😂😂😂😂
Only fitting that the consequences for what should be illegal seizures should be a huge financial burden. Hopefully the costs will go way past the value of the yachts
US authorized then to seize those assets and so the US has pay for the charges.
When netanyahou will face sanctions ?
Sell the yachts
How can you sell someone else's property?
@@piratesofthebarentssea seized means taking ownership.
@@gregorywilson2124 The Corrupt legal system is profiting. Sanctions are just another way for the rich to get richer at taxpayers expense.
Like the US the Italians have learned that they can't sell or use the seized yachts, legally have to maintain them at their own expense and that NOBODY wants to buy them because of who they belong to, everyone is afraid of Spetsnaz or Wagner showing up on the seas to reclaim them on behalf of the rightful owners 😅
@gregorywilson2124, when a bank freezes your account, nobody can withdraw or deposit from it. But the money is still there. The bank can not take that money for themselves. The same goes with sanctions.
Well who in the future is going to buy stuff in Italy? Think about that.
European politicians thinking is absurd
😂😂😂 why would the Russians worry when their yatchs are being well taken care of.
10,000 usd for electricity+ water 😅😅😅
I have an idea. How about returning the stolen items so the burden isn't on the italian taxpayers?
😂😂😂😂10.000 euro powerbill for what its a boat😂😂😂😂 to charge it cost no way near 10.000 grand
In Spain the Russians oligarchs have they Realstate.👍
The original pirates were European descent as all they know steel Rob and kill
Maybe they shouldn't seize it in the first place
The italuan government is unable to pay 50000 euros on maintenance on just one yatch 😅😅😅😅 but it has the power to sanction
Nahh!!
What about American oligarch😂😂
Such as?
@@lacdirkelon musk, mark those two can sink a country with their assets
@@Fabbiebeats Elon is definitely powerful, and he is definitely anti-western (and hence anti-American). While he clearly has too much influence on the US, it's not like he's part of the ruling caste.
That said, if he would credibly be accused of supporting genocide, fascism, ethnic cleansing etc in legally enforable way (i.e. he could be convicted in an international court of law), I'ld be supporting of prosecuting him.
@@Fabbiebeatselon musk is just the tip of the iceberg.
It is simple. Return stuff you stole to their rightful owner lol. Italy stole other people's stuff and now complaining about it? lol.
Madness everywhere
Russia always a winner 😂😂😂
Russia in Kharkiv offensive cost them 1.5 million military personnel.
Due to the huge loses, Putin and other ministers are in the front line.
Seizing assets just because one is Russian seems very Fascist!
Free maintenance, who cant complain.
Also when their assets get unfrozen due to illegal seizure I'm sure that someone will have to compensate them (legal fees etc) XD
Just sell the yachts?
Let the innocent business men have their properties. They are Russians not Russia
The oligarch should continue paying the maintenance fees, or accumulate debt if he/she refuses.
As soon as the debt passes the value of the yacht, then it can be confiscated 👍🏾
Give it back 😅😅
That is stealing.
You do not have to obey the USA.
The morw i see EU policies being implemented the more i am convinced the vittyom of the unemployment barrel is sitting in Brussels
cost of blindly following America without applying any critcal thinking
Let them pay for maintenance if they don't want them to be worthless when the sanctions are potentially taken away. Or just return them, West isn't exactly doing as much as we are saying anyway.
Well they are not given visas to come nor is ruble accepted. If you read law if an item is seized or impounded then its need to be in the same condition when it’s released otherwise you get sued ..duh
@@jvjd..and that's why I said that they should return it otherwise. It's not exactly a regular situation to begin with, but they decided to get after it for some reason.
They have to return it in the and condition them took them in. So the government has not choice
@@rustyshackleford7808 Thank you for missing the point.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.funniest thing ever .free maintenance
Just sell it and stop whining
Hey, hands off. Ill be taking these confiscated assets. Ill be using this for my endeavors and tasks. Some of these would be delivered to Russia and some would be delivered to Mainland Japan.
Never invest in Europe nor usa
Rent it out, problem solved.
Can't
@@CurtisThomas-l9p Why not?
From a Mexican sounds like the Italians are bought out lol
😂😂😂😂 you call the tune you pay the piper
Russian has responded.
Private property
Thiefs🤣
What about the Ukranian oligarch who sellong the weapons to african and arab countries?
Us seized their asset
Anything for mother usa
lol then sell them.
Why invest in italy if your gov could be sanctioned. So forget about chinese investment for the future
More like forget about investing in America because now you can’t even say anything or they might get butt hurt n steal all your assets lol
If you plan to invade an European country and EU candidate then it's a bit difficult for the things to remain as they were. 😂
Europe is in the business of stealing money from Russia 😂😂😂
Stolen, there you go I fixed it for you 😉
😂😂😂
Ukraine owns the asset now. Give it over to Ukraine.
When are they return the stolen Red Indian land to Indians,and compensation to Africa for slave trade.
You are confusing Italy for another country, Italy didn’t take part in neither of those things matters of fact it wasn’t even a country until 1861.
Thus to make master of forever wars usa happy the sheepoeple of Italy pay