Fun fact: Here in Taiwan, their respective prices are GTX 1050: No longer available new GTX 1050 Ti: NT$4490 (£125.86) GTX 1630: NT$4990 (£139.87) GTX 1650: NT$4790 (£134.27) !!! That's right: With less than 9 quids you can upgrade to a much more capable GTX 1650 that can beat 1050 Ti or the more expensive 1630 in every game. Frankly I see no reason to buy 1630 at all.
Traditionally the XX30 cards are for drop in graphics since they traditionally don't need a power connector. This let you get a cheap used office desktop, throw in the graphics card and you get a cheap gaming pc. But no one has made a 1630 that only powers off PCIE yet......
Ah, the mighty 1050 Ti. This makes me feel good about continuing to use one in my setup. Wouldn't mind buying a 1630 if it came down a lot in price just to have one.
Bought a used 1050ti back in 2018 for $80 that was from a mining rig to be used in my daughter's computer. Only spent 3 months in the mine and had a fan removed but still worked great. For what I paid it i couldn't be happier with the results. Also have a GTX 970 I bought from EVGA's B-stock on black Friday later that year. Paid $50 for it and have it as a backup incase my 1080 ever died.
@@ErraticPT GTX 1050 Ti is not mighty? Bruh that Card launched in 2016 and could handle most of its time's games at 60fps, high settings. It was indeed mighty. It can handle Doom 2016 at ultra, 80fps at 768p on my pc.
@@TheWarmotorFor the record, the Xbox 360 launched in 2005 and ran most games made for it at 30fps in 720p. These cards could run those same games at 1080p 60fps for the most part. This is just slander.
Essentially a "1050 super" in performance. I'm curious how ridiculous the pricing will be for Nvidia's future releases if this new low-end gpu is going for 200 usd 💀
@@Thor-pq6ul Just wait for the RTX 40 series to drop. Hopefully it's gonna drop by the end of this year or 1st half of the next year. What's gonna happen is that when RTX 40 series drops, all the previous series cards are gonna experience a massive drop in price and hence they're gonna become more affordable.
@@JamesNalacar not necessarily. we all thought this was going to happen last time around but it turned out the new cards msrps (or at least the price they were selling for) was higher than the 2000 series. and so the price of 2000 series stagnated while 3000 was released. all it would take is a new crypto boom and 4000 cards are going to be 100 dollars more than the 3000 cards msrp and nothing will go down in price
@@orionfell or they could just not make 30 series cards anymore /20 series. its quite depressing how much control nvidia has over this and how bad amd is still doing with their drivers comparatively. hope amd will start putting up more of a fight because competition is the only thing that can consistently save us.
I would not pay $100 for a GTX 1650 new. The 1630 should have been called the 1610 for $90 and been a replacement for the GT 710. I think when they run out of damaged 1650 cores the 1630 will disappear the same way the Ryzen 3010 and 3300x did.
Yeah this really should have been called the gt 1630 instead for sure or maybe gt 1600. Maybe allowing third party models too use a pci-e 6 pin & overclock the cards too at least beat the 1050 ti in every scenario could have made it a better purchase but nah, a used 1060 3 gb or 1050 ti is much better value for the money, or even a 1650 used is better.
I'd have rather got rid of the 6 pin power connector (so it only ran off the PCI power) and called it the GT 1610. Though having said that, we never saw a GT 1010...
@@TheSpotify95 Someone did end up getting a hold of a GT 1010 earlier this year off of Taobao. It posted a TimeSpy Extreme score of 153, which is on the level of a GTX 460.
Thing is, even the 1050ti is capable of being overclocked while even still using just PCIe power, like my Zotac 1050ti OC, whose base clock is almost the same as the rated boost clock of the base 1050ti and can boost to just above 1800MHz out of the box under the right conditions (I don't trust Heaven Valley listing it OC'ing to over 2000MHz though 😂😂😂). So unless the entire silicon batch is too binned poorly to OC, the 1630 shouldn't even need the +six pin cable to be OC'd...
Nvidia always seems to launch some of the entry level cards which DOA in terms of performance what they offers as compare to their old previous GPUs and AMD offerings
GT 1030 has no NVENC, and the 16 series NVENC is based on the newer Volta-based, much better than Pascal. Plus, it's stupid to buy a 10 series new (even if there's stock), and you have no warranty on a used 10 series.
@@AlfaPro1337 well I don't know how the warranty works but I guess warranty starts from the day user purchase it so I don't think warranty is the problem but I agree on nvenc thing it's terrible GPU I don't even know why nvidia created this e waste.
@@jaze7045 I think you missed the point, if you are on AMD system, and want to stream/en/decode stuff on the cheap and new, the GTX 1630 is the choice. AMD's VCN quality is atrocious, below Intel QuickSync. If you're on Intel, it's by default Auto to PEG, then again, everyone is not seeing the disadvantage of having the F-series, or the advantage of having an iGPU. The same shit said about the 1650, it's an e-waste, a waste of money, and suddenly during mining craze, the 1650 is suddenly a better choice than the used or even newly bought 1050/Ti, or the comparable RX 560 (in tier-to-tier comparison).
@@AlfaPro1337 oh I didn't missed this point I just think GTX 1630 should be priced lower in order make its way to user! I know iGPU is a big thing but my point was to those people who are looking this GPU for gaming not decide/encode stuff AMD lacks performance in this section but it seems to be gaining up.
@@AlfaPro1337 I honestly doubt people in this price range are looking for encoding performance - they're here for gaming performance. Sure, the NVENC support is better on the 1630; but try telling that to Joe Sixpack who has no interest in content creation.
1050ti is still a really good performing card at 1080p - my son was running one running games such as fortnite, rocket league, overwatch, fifa etc. on my old i5 4690k and all still run really well often 60+ fps depending on the settings/scenario
The 1050Ti is still a really good performing card at 1080p games.... (here's the catch)... from many years ago... it's not really a solid performer on newer games at 1080p unless you consider 30fps "solid". It's fine if you just play older or non-demanding games... I wouldn't call it a modern 1080p card though. Not a hater, one of my systems still has a 1050Ti in it and it used to be my "flagship card" some years ago... just saying its time is/has passed.
@@wabbajack8283 there's nothing wrong about the 1050Ti, though it is getting old... however, I really Really hate blanket statements out of the blue like "esport players are the VAST MAJORITY of gamers". Really? Based on what statistical data from what source... or is it anecdotal evidence of "well my friends and I all play esport games so obviously that means the vast majority of gamers everywhere do too". I just hate blanket statements without statistical data backing it up (hey, maybe it's true, I've just never heard that before). The 1050Ti used to be my main card years ago, I have a soft spot for it, but basically it's only good for older games or esport on lower settings. (I'm rocking a 3070Ti these days).
I think putting the 1630 up against a 1050 4GB variant would be worth its own video. Especially since the 1050 4 gig was released at a lower price in 2016 compared to the 1630 in 2022
Comparatively speaking in actual numbers, the 1050 4GB is an anomaly and extremely rare in the world of 1050 cards. If you polled a thousand (every model of) 1050 owners out there, 1050 2GB, 1050 4GB, 1050Ti... i'd be surprised if 5 of them had a 1050 4GB. 99.9% of people who wanted something a little faster than a 1050 just got the 1050Ti. Wouldn't be any real value to the vast, vast majority of gamers to do a 1050 4GB review other than Gee Whiz factor and people saying "I didn't even know a 1050 4GB existed" comments.
I was going to defend the 1630 as I thought it was possibly a 35w card, but it's not. with the prebuilt stupidity of 40-50w limits of some pcies i thought it had a market. so it's a £70 card at best for £180, with zero benefits
What we really needed Nvidia was a 1050Ti/1650 replacement around the £150 mark not a GT1030 replacement at £180 that performs worse than a £80 used 1050Ti great video as always but I’m lost with the 1630 🤷🏻♂️
I have a 1050ti and the only problem is the lack of VRAM, its constantly sitting at 100% VRAM usage and the main GPU is only at 60-80% usage. I still get a good 60fps in most games, but would be nice if there was a mod to increase the VRAM as it is the limiting factor
@@saksafann9813 No its sitting about 10-20% with RAM using about 8gb of 16, also most games are on a Samsung 980pro so shouldn't be a Storage problem either
Bruh for me it's like another way around. 4 GB is usually enough for high or medium texture quality but as for all of the other setting I need to lower these to low to get consistant fps
The GTX 1050ti will probably be remembered as one of the all-time great graphics card values. It was very capable of playing games that came out between 2017 - 2019 while not being crazy expensive.
The GTX 1050 Ti and the GTX 1060 6Gb are still incredible value for budget gamers nowadays... and the whole GTX 1000 series (Pascal architecture) were awesome. Even the 1080 Ti is still a great option. It stands between the RTX 2070 and RTX 3060Ti in rasterization performance (depending of the game off course).
I use a basic 1050 daily, honestly its perfectly acceptable as a daily user with light gaming... it will breathe new life into your old pc, civ 5... cs go... arma 2/ day z etc will run with no issues
If this card came out costing $70-100 it would be great, but it costs as much as the 1050ti did 6 years ago and gives WORSE performance. How is nobody saying anything about this? This is legitimately criminal
As well as GTA 5 - also if you're going to test San Andreas, you might as well test the original release on lower end hardware (with higher settings) as that is what most people would have purchased - not the "definitive edition" which has higher system requirements.
So long and short of it is that the 1630 is worse than a 1050Ti, and not far off the 1050 non-Ti performance. I really do wonder what the latter would be like if it was a 4GB card, and not a 2GB card.
Thought GT 1630 is great until I saw that 6-pin connector. I'm surprised why that card needs power connector. I would buy GTX 1060 6GB or RX 580 8GB if I need a PCIe power connector.
@@RandomGaminginHD yeah overall worse performance than a 1050ti, and also having a higher potential power draw. Than a 5 year old card... makes putting it in an office pc more difficult.
I was really excited for this card. Then it was released with an msrp of $150 and everyone I’ve seen for sale has been $200. Way too much for this card. My local computer store has gtx 1650s in stock for $209.
Whenever the 1630 ends up below the 1050, that means there's probably a memory bandwidth bottleneck, as the core clock speed should more than make up for the 128/8/16 less cores/ROPs/TMUs. It would be interesting to see how the Quadro T600 compares, as it's basically a turing 1050 with 4GBs of GDDR6.
Seeing a Gtx 1050 in a video and also seeing how it beats a newer gpu in a few situations kinda makes me pround since my first brand new pc had one and after 5 years of owning it like a secondary pc it still makes me proud seeing how competent it can be in quite a lot of games even in 1440p or 4k with some optimizing.
@@nashcomp Ran all indie games I was throwing at it at 4k max setting(doesn"t really count) and even Dirt 4 or Dirt Rally 2.0 at 4k with low setting ,also tried fortnite on it at 4k and it managed quite well ,beyond expectations ,I'd say taking into account it is the 2GB version it did quite well ,the only problem was that at 4k It was hitting the 75W power limit due to not having a 6 pin power connector like other versions.
@@RandomGaminginHD you should look into the used market idk how it is where you are but my friend just got a 3060ti for freaking 200 bucks lol. last month my other dude got a 2070 super for 200. i can see some cards just not worth to sell at all or worth buying. hell give it another month 2060 super gonna be 100 bucks easy
I have a feeling these gpus will have their RRP/MSRP dropped very soon due to the criticism being received …. It’s happened with the RX6500XT and RX6400 👍😅
I love my 1050ti 4GB stormx never had any issues with it apart from slight overclocking it a bit too much and it made windows unstable but after restoring after my silly idea, its been excellent for me runs all my games with good temps and performance...I was offered a 1650 version but it was not the right price and to be honest... it seemed the best builds at the time for budget was with the 1050ti.. best decision I made, I dont live in UK and it seemed the best price too I got it around £100 at time and that was before all this flu thing started and people started going insane lol
Just bought a used 1050ti low profile for 120$ Canadian and I'm now wondering if it wasn't that great a price after all. Sadly I needed a LP version of the card and those seem to have a pretty big markup compared to the standard 1050tis.
It is insane still with the 1050TI selling upwards of 200 euro/dollars in august 2022 ( for some models even over 220 euros). I paid 170 euro's in 2016 or 2017 which I thought was high then! You can get a 1650 for less now and even a 1660 super is on sale now for 199,99! ( the sale is only on one site and I am not sharing : ) )
If you could you should look at some old Quadro cards. I got a mobile workstation recently with an old Kepler Quadro and it's still surprisingly capable.
The way i see this card is that although it's capable of gaming, this is mainly targeted towards productivity, basically a low cost successor to the GT 1030, with modern architecture.
What graphics APIs were being used? I wonder if it's a bit like what we are seeing with the Intel Arc GPUs - where they do better with DX12 and Vulkan, while the older GPUs do better at DX11.
The 1050 Ti has some life left in it yet because of FSR, especially the FSR 2.0 mod that lets it work in place of DLSS. It's basically a 30 FPS card at this point though but personally I'm fine with a locked 30 FPS so long as it's stable and properly frametimed (RTSS helps there).
Dude I live right beside the sea and I have my window open so I was tripping thinking I could hear seagulls outside but it was actually from the video hahaha
From other benchmarks I saw, it is better to get the rx 6400 on pcie 3.0. I believe it's 10-20% improvement depending on the game and settings but that is the general difference between the two
I have both the HH SS size 6400 and a slot power only 1050Ti and the 6400 is faster in everything I tested except modded Minecraft. However I've had the 1050Ti for over 4 years and it will continue it's valiant service in a Dell MT. The 6400 is in a Dell SFF.
That same model of the 1050ti the expedition series I believe. Really nice card. Quiet and cool and been using one for half a decade. Does Asus make those series anymore?
The 1630 vs 1050 choices for consumers is down to what they each (or in collabs) personally want especially since VMDq passthrough is a thing such as how shader-model is 6.4 vs 6.6 and cuda is 6.1 vs 7.5 and so for example that affects projects people might do which may also use OpenCL. Kinda like how people like to learn some tech things but also do a bit of gaming. Both, after all, are in the middle for GPU cards and not the top range in terms of speed so it is perhaps unsurprising that a person getting one is focussing their budget on other parts of the PC such as CPU. So for instance the CPU is often more for latency sensitive processing of OpenCL compared to the GPU, but the GPU still gets used for some things here and there. Leaning about OpenCL in general and being into making games mods can be exampled with how BeamNG uses OpenCL for physics. As soon as a gaming channel cracks open a level-editor in a game (e.g. FPS multiplayer) and starts modding and scripting for a heat-map, some other coder they work with will mention OpenCL and similar heatmap (e.g. Gaussian function) approachs to writing a game and designing a level for probabilities and predictions, like how in deathmatch where players fall, weapons drop and enemies are often nearby. Both the 1630 and 1050 have OpenCL3, see. The versions of cuda and shader model can also help in 3D modelling and art-packages or video-editing, all of which might contribute to making games. My comment has no hate in it and I do no harm. I am not appalled or afraid, boasting or envying or complaining... Just saying. Psalms23: Giving thanks and praise to the Lord and peace and love. Also, I'd say Matthew6.
I replaced a 1050 2 gig with a GTX 1660 6 gig. The main reason was it's the lowest price Nvidia GPU with NVENC that does B frames. Some 1650's use the same NVENC as the 1660, some 1650's use the same NVENC (no B frame support) as the 1050 and others prior to the 1650 with B frame support. So I could have bought a 1650 to get what I wanted but telling which 1650 I'd be getting with a used card would be difficult or impossible.
That performance difference in cyberpunk nicely shows why nVidia drivers aren't open source. Imagine community prolonging the life of cars nVidia would rather see in dumps than in computers.
No, the vram matters quite a lot. Its just nvidia's memory compression is really good so even if you exceed the vram capacity your performance won't immediately tank. It'll take a slight dive. If the 1050 had its full 4gb of vram, it'd have been as good as the gtx 1630, if not a tiny bit better. Oh and of course, the mobile 1050 does have 4gb of vram, performs similar to the desktop variant AND uses only 50w. So, it'd even beat the 1630 in efficiency.
From what I have seen you could buy a 1650 GDDR6 for the going price of a 1630 or a brand new 1050ti. I think it will be a long time before the price of a 1630 comes to reflect it's performance.
I'm still running the 1050ti. Its still an ok card, but is starting to massively show its age. A lot of it is probably my cpu as well.. its time for a complete upgrade, my motherbord is to old to upgrade cpu as its already maxed out :(
what motherboard you have? On aliexpress they sell laptop 10th gen laptop chips wich they modified so they fit 1151 motherboards, they are like 100 euro's for the 6 core 12 thread ones.
@@budgetking2591 my motherbord is an asus z97-e usb 3.1 1150 socket. I have an I7 4790k its the best the bord can take as far as I understand it. Basically its so old its time to upgrade it all. Thank you for the suggestion though.
only use i see buyin' a GTX 1630 is if u have an extra PC for dedicated Streaming PC purposes on tha cheap and u just wanna stick in tha GPU without too much of a PSU upgrade just because tha GTX 1630 is a Touring GPU, which means u get access to New Nvenc for Touring and above
Some things to consider : 1. quantity of VRAM - either you have it or you don't . Some games require 4 GB VRAM even on 1080p low. If you have only 2 GB , then system RAM would be used which is much slower 2. speed of VRAM - difference between GDDR5 and GDDR6 is not that great, except in games that move around large textures like Cyberpunk 2077 . Thus 1630 actually wo in that game . 3. processing power - usually most important thing, 1050 Ti has clear advantage there and so advantage in most games . 1050 is not so far in this regard compared to 1630 . 4. Bandwidth - to notice the difference you would need to have more "rich" textures i.e. higher details . Perhaps testing 1050 Ti vs 1630 in 1080p high in Witcher 3 would show the difference between full and cut PCIe lanes.
The 1630 was designed and priced for the time when there was a GPU drought. When second hand 1050's were selling for much more than they do now. Now we seem to have a bit of a GPU glut and the 1630 doesn't make any sense. Maybe if it was the same price as a 1030 was.
@@LSK2K They don't now. 8 months ago a 1050 second hand was selling for over $200-$250. That's when this card made sense. (from a manufacturer point of view) Nvidia probably designed the card then but was short sighted and expected the mining gravy train to continue forever,
@@baroncalamityplus but they already knew the prices were down pre release. They saw the prices are down and still thought to release this card at 170$. Hopefully they lose money and not pull this crap again.
Hi Steve, I see ur using mostly low settings. Why is that? I mean u're mostly using CPU at those settings. Do the results differ at all on higher settings?
right so its costs more than the 1050ti does which is 165.99 new from ccl and the gt 1630 is 193.99 from ccl for the cheapest model and it requires a six pin power connector that the 1050ti doesnt require and it can work full speed in a gen 2 slot or a gen 3 slot
Presumably the 1630 exists for when the 1050 & 1050 Ti are no longer available, but it makes no sense for it to be more expensive than a 1650, unless of course it will still be around when the 16 cards are only still available via eBay. It makes me wonder if there will be an RTX/GTX 2650, 2660 range. Will we see a low profile RTX card (that isn't technically a workstation card)? I mean, the most puzzling question for a long time has been "why is the GT 1030 still on sale?".
Good news is: nobody has to buy a 1630. In the used market you very often get a 1050 Ti or 1650 (S) for a descend price (again). Saw many 1050 Ti for about 95 € these days on eBay here in Germany.
I think it would be interesting if they would make low end cards with Raytracing and more importantly DLSS. Instead of GT they could just name it RT (e.g. RT 3030).
They need to sell the 3050 ti (laptop) for desktops that would be almost exactly what we need for this. I don’t know if raytracing would do much on cards weaker then that tho, even my 2070 max q doesn’t handle ray tracing very well :(
@@yyeezyy630 I think that Ray Tracing even on those weaker cards makes them more future proof. It is bit like the Xbox Series S which also only supports Ray Tracing in a very basic form.
Fun fact: Here in Taiwan, their respective prices are
GTX 1050: No longer available new
GTX 1050 Ti: NT$4490 (£125.86)
GTX 1630: NT$4990 (£139.87)
GTX 1650: NT$4790 (£134.27) !!!
That's right: With less than 9 quids you can upgrade to a much more capable GTX 1650 that can beat 1050 Ti or the more expensive 1630 in every game. Frankly I see no reason to buy 1630 at all.
That pricing makes absolutely no sense.
@@DorkSideObamna taiwan moments
yep, even for htpc use, 1630 is just way overpriced
wow
other than a Cheap New Nvenc encoder for tha GTX 1630, I don't see any other reason to get it besides a cheap enough GPU to get u New Nvenc
I think a 1630 really should've been performing better than a previous gen's "50" series cards tbh. It'd be fine if it was a lot cheaper but it isn't.
To be fair, the 1650 is slower than the 1060, and the 1660 is slower than the 1070.
the last two digits is the main thing to be considered in the hierarchy, the first two digit is the generation. 1630 seems like the upgrade of 1030
1030 wasn't better than 950 back then. it was around 750 +/-
not the model number fault, the new higher price of xx30 make you think that way.
@@NickABQQm yeah exactly , thats why a 950 is better than a 1030 . 50 and 30
@@lolcat A 1660 is better than a 1060. They would have assumed correctly.
Great video, since the day it was released, I couldn’t imagine who would buy the 1630 when you already have 1050/1050ti/1650…
man if anybody downgrade from 1650 to 1630... 😂
Traditionally the XX30 cards are for drop in graphics since they traditionally don't need a power connector. This let you get a cheap used office desktop, throw in the graphics card and you get a cheap gaming pc. But no one has made a 1630 that only powers off PCIE yet......
@@cheedam8738 actually the GTX 1650 doesn't need additional it has a TDP of 75w which is the max PCIE can deliver
@@greecevstheworld depends on what model you get as from what I can tell the gddr6 version needs a pcie power connector
@@greecevstheworld i mean no one would ever downgrade from a 1650 to a 1630, and yeah thats true but some or all gddr6 models require 6 pins
Should’ve been priced at $89 and not named as a “gtx” card
@@ToptanFiyatinaPerakendeSatis gt1050 would make no sense. There is already a gtx 1050
89 would still be a lot for this card.
@@kkjgfh $79?
@@kkjgfh I mean you do have to be fair about inflation, but yes.
1030's still sell for $100, why on earth would they sell this cheaper?
Ah, the mighty 1050 Ti. This makes me feel good about continuing to use one in my setup. Wouldn't mind buying a 1630 if it came down a lot in price just to have one.
Bought a used 1050ti back in 2018 for $80 that was from a mining rig to be used in my daughter's computer. Only spent 3 months in the mine and had a fan removed but still worked great. For what I paid it i couldn't be happier with the results. Also have a GTX 970 I bought from EVGA's B-stock on black Friday later that year. Paid $50 for it and have it as a backup incase my 1080 ever died.
Why would anyone use any of these cards? You'd have a better experience with an old XB360. This is not PC gaming.
Lol, the 1050ti was never "mighty", not even at launch.
The 1630 however is just a waste of sand.
@@ErraticPT GTX 1050 Ti is not mighty? Bruh that Card launched in 2016 and could handle most of its time's games at 60fps, high settings. It was indeed mighty. It can handle Doom 2016 at ultra, 80fps at 768p on my pc.
@@TheWarmotorFor the record, the Xbox 360 launched in 2005 and ran most games made for it at 30fps in 720p. These cards could run those same games at 1080p 60fps for the most part. This is just slander.
Essentially a "1050 super" in performance. I'm curious how ridiculous the pricing will be for Nvidia's future releases if this new low-end gpu is going for 200 usd 💀
New APUs are becoming better and better, while low-end cards are stagnating, they are basically useless.
@@misterx8448 which one is better i am confused i3 12100f with t400 or 5600g
@@Thor-pq6ul Just wait for the RTX 40 series to drop. Hopefully it's gonna drop by the end of this year or 1st half of the next year. What's gonna happen is that when RTX 40 series drops, all the previous series cards are gonna experience a massive drop in price and hence they're gonna become more affordable.
@@JamesNalacar not necessarily. we all thought this was going to happen last time around but it turned out the new cards msrps (or at least the price they were selling for) was higher than the 2000 series. and so the price of 2000 series stagnated while 3000 was released.
all it would take is a new crypto boom and 4000 cards are going to be 100 dollars more than the 3000 cards msrp and nothing will go down in price
@@orionfell or they could just not make 30 series cards anymore /20 series. its quite depressing how much control nvidia has over this and how bad amd is still doing with their drivers comparatively. hope amd will start putting up more of a fight because competition is the only thing that can consistently save us.
Wow, what a terrible card. It definitely shouldn't be a gtx card, and it shouldn't be $150
Should've been a $70 at peak to be honest
it isnt made to be a good card, just made to try to make the pricing of the 3000 cards decent
They really should have named it gt 1630
It should be GT 1630
@@marlon.8051 its more expensive and worse than an RX6400. Nuff said about that
I would not pay $100 for a GTX 1650 new. The 1630 should have been called the 1610 for $90 and been a replacement for the GT 710. I think when they run out of damaged 1650 cores the 1630 will disappear the same way the Ryzen 3010 and 3300x did.
Yeah this really should have been called the gt 1630 instead for sure or maybe gt 1600.
Maybe allowing third party models too use a pci-e 6 pin & overclock the cards too at least beat the 1050 ti in every scenario could have made it a better purchase but nah, a used 1060 3 gb or 1050 ti is much better value for the money, or even a 1650 used is better.
GT 1610. I think that would've been a perfect product/model number.
The problem isn’t in the name as much as it’s MSRP
I'd have rather got rid of the 6 pin power connector (so it only ran off the PCI power) and called it the GT 1610.
Though having said that, we never saw a GT 1010...
@@TheSpotify95 Someone did end up getting a hold of a GT 1010 earlier this year off of Taobao. It posted a TimeSpy Extreme score of 153, which is on the level of a GTX 460.
Thing is, even the 1050ti is capable of being overclocked while even still using just PCIe power, like my Zotac 1050ti OC, whose base clock is almost the same as the rated boost clock of the base 1050ti and can boost to just above 1800MHz out of the box under the right conditions (I don't trust Heaven Valley listing it OC'ing to over 2000MHz though 😂😂😂). So unless the entire silicon batch is too binned poorly to OC, the 1630 shouldn't even need the +six pin cable to be OC'd...
Nvidia always seems to launch some of the entry level cards which DOA in terms of performance what they offers as compare to their old previous GPUs and AMD offerings
GT 1030 has no NVENC, and the 16 series NVENC is based on the newer Volta-based, much better than Pascal.
Plus, it's stupid to buy a 10 series new (even if there's stock), and you have no warranty on a used 10 series.
@@AlfaPro1337 well I don't know how the warranty works but I guess warranty starts from the day user purchase it so I don't think warranty is the problem but I agree on nvenc thing it's terrible GPU I don't even know why nvidia created this e waste.
@@jaze7045 I think you missed the point, if you are on AMD system, and want to stream/en/decode stuff on the cheap and new, the GTX 1630 is the choice.
AMD's VCN quality is atrocious, below Intel QuickSync.
If you're on Intel, it's by default Auto to PEG, then again, everyone is not seeing the disadvantage of having the F-series, or the advantage of having an iGPU.
The same shit said about the 1650, it's an e-waste, a waste of money, and suddenly during mining craze, the 1650 is suddenly a better choice than the used or even newly bought 1050/Ti, or the comparable RX 560 (in tier-to-tier comparison).
@@AlfaPro1337 oh I didn't missed this point I just think GTX 1630 should be priced lower in order make its way to user! I know iGPU is a big thing but my point was to those people who are looking this GPU for gaming not decide/encode stuff AMD lacks performance in this section but it seems to be gaining up.
@@AlfaPro1337 I honestly doubt people in this price range are looking for encoding performance - they're here for gaming performance.
Sure, the NVENC support is better on the 1630; but try telling that to Joe Sixpack who has no interest in content creation.
"...i find it hard to justify recommending the purchase of one unless..."
*...at gunpoint.*
1050ti is still a really good performing card at 1080p - my son was running one running games such as fortnite, rocket league, overwatch, fifa etc. on my old i5 4690k and all still run really well often 60+ fps depending on the settings/scenario
Yeah it still surprises me
The 1050Ti is still a really good performing card at 1080p games.... (here's the catch)... from many years ago... it's not really a solid performer on newer games at 1080p unless you consider 30fps "solid". It's fine if you just play older or non-demanding games... I wouldn't call it a modern 1080p card though. Not a hater, one of my systems still has a 1050Ti in it and it used to be my "flagship card" some years ago... just saying its time is/has passed.
@@wolfshanze5980 it still holds up well for esports games which is the vast majority of players
@@wabbajack8283 there's nothing wrong about the 1050Ti, though it is getting old... however, I really Really hate blanket statements out of the blue like "esport players are the VAST MAJORITY of gamers".
Really? Based on what statistical data from what source... or is it anecdotal evidence of "well my friends and I all play esport games so obviously that means the vast majority of gamers everywhere do too".
I just hate blanket statements without statistical data backing it up (hey, maybe it's true, I've just never heard that before).
The 1050Ti used to be my main card years ago, I have a soft spot for it, but basically it's only good for older games or esport on lower settings. (I'm rocking a 3070Ti these days).
I think putting the 1630 up against a 1050 4GB variant would be worth its own video. Especially since the 1050 4 gig was released at a lower price in 2016 compared to the 1630 in 2022
Comparatively speaking in actual numbers, the 1050 4GB is an anomaly and extremely rare in the world of 1050 cards. If you polled a thousand (every model of) 1050 owners out there, 1050 2GB, 1050 4GB, 1050Ti... i'd be surprised if 5 of them had a 1050 4GB. 99.9% of people who wanted something a little faster than a 1050 just got the 1050Ti. Wouldn't be any real value to the vast, vast majority of gamers to do a 1050 4GB review other than Gee Whiz factor and people saying "I didn't even know a 1050 4GB existed" comments.
@@wolfshanze5980 True, although I do believe a lot of laptops shipped with the 1050 4 gig variant. Probably not as popular in the desktop space though
imagine the 10 year old 7970 vs the new gtx 1630
Bro the HD 7970 win easily
almost identical performance; budget builds official did a video on it
1050 was my first gpu back in 2017. Boy did it held up well.
I was going to defend the 1630 as I thought it was possibly a 35w card, but it's not. with the prebuilt stupidity of 40-50w limits of some pcies i thought it had a market.
so it's a £70 card at best for £180, with zero benefits
What we really needed Nvidia was a 1050Ti/1650 replacement around the £150 mark not a GT1030 replacement at £180 that performs worse than a £80 used 1050Ti great video as always but I’m lost with the 1630 🤷🏻♂️
This card replaces the 1050ti
I have a 1050ti and the only problem is the lack of VRAM, its constantly sitting at 100% VRAM usage and the main GPU is only at 60-80% usage. I still get a good 60fps in most games, but would be nice if there was a mod to increase the VRAM as it is the limiting factor
Just download more vram.
idk its looking more like cpu bottleneck
@@saksafann9813 No its sitting about 10-20% with RAM using about 8gb of 16, also most games are on a Samsung 980pro so shouldn't be a Storage problem either
Bruh for me it's like another way around. 4 GB is usually enough for high or medium texture quality but as for all of the other setting I need to lower these to low to get consistant fps
A mod to increase vram 🤣🤣
The GTX 1050ti will probably be remembered as one of the all-time great graphics card values. It was very capable of playing games that came out between 2017 - 2019 while not being crazy expensive.
It can still play games up to last year
No it's RX 570 coming in same price range or cheaper with upto 40% more performance in some games..mostly 20% more.
The GTX 1050 Ti and the GTX 1060 6Gb are still incredible value for budget gamers nowadays... and the whole GTX 1000 series (Pascal architecture) were awesome. Even the 1080 Ti is still a great option. It stands between the RTX 2070 and RTX 3060Ti in rasterization performance (depending of the game off course).
@@xtechtips152 Probably both at the same time.
@@yan3066 The 1080 Ti is the 8800 GT of the 2010s, for sure.
I use a basic 1050 daily, honestly its perfectly acceptable as a daily user with light gaming... it will breathe new life into your old pc, civ 5... cs go... arma 2/ day z etc will run with no issues
You think it would be sufficient with 3D Autocad rendering ?
An gt1030dd5 is enough for your games buddy. Gtx1050 is comfortably playing newest aaa games at low 1080p.
Really like the editing style in your videos and the commentary is a nice touch.
Some people painstakingly handle their cards on anti-static mats with wrist straps. This guy just lays them out on the grass 😆
If this card came out costing $70-100 it would be great, but it costs as much as the 1050ti did 6 years ago and gives WORSE performance. How is nobody saying anything about this? This is legitimately criminal
Please add a few more games like GoW, Days Gone & AC Valhalla into the benchmark....btw nice video👍
As well as GTA 5 - also if you're going to test San Andreas, you might as well test the original release on lower end hardware (with higher settings) as that is what most people would have purchased - not the "definitive edition" which has higher system requirements.
All games averaged in case anyone was wondering:
GTX 1630 - 52 FPS
GTX 1050 Ti - 58 FPS
GTX 1050 - 49 FPS
So long and short of it is that the 1630 is worse than a 1050Ti, and not far off the 1050 non-Ti performance. I really do wonder what the latter would be like if it was a 4GB card, and not a 2GB card.
Quite interesting vid as always!
Thought GT 1630 is great until I saw that 6-pin connector. I'm surprised why that card needs power connector. I would buy GTX 1060 6GB or RX 580 8GB if I need a PCIe power connector.
Yeah exactly for that class of card it should be under 75 watts for sure.
Yeah the power connector was a bad idea
@@RandomGaminginHD yeah overall worse performance than a 1050ti, and also having a higher potential power draw. Than a 5 year old card... makes putting it in an office pc more difficult.
You could just buy the version that doesn't need a 6pin power connector.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 They are under 75W at stock speeds. The 6pin is there for OCing.
I was really excited for this card. Then it was released with an msrp of $150 and everyone I’ve seen for sale has been $200. Way too much for this card. My local computer store has gtx 1650s in stock for $209.
Buy used RX 570 for 90$ its 2x performance
Another excellent video, that only channel that gets me watching content on products I'd never buy... well played sir
The generational Jump in performance from GTX 9xx to GTX 10xx was insane.
But almost everything afterwards are meh
I disagree, but will not elaborate.
Whenever the 1630 ends up below the 1050, that means there's probably a memory bandwidth bottleneck, as the core clock speed should more than make up for the 128/8/16 less cores/ROPs/TMUs.
It would be interesting to see how the Quadro T600 compares, as it's basically a turing 1050 with 4GBs of GDDR6.
Seeing a Gtx 1050 in a video and also seeing how it beats a newer gpu in a few situations kinda makes me pround since my first brand new pc had one and after 5 years of owning it like a secondary pc it still makes me proud seeing how competent it can be in quite a lot of games even in 1440p or 4k with some optimizing.
I didnt know that, 4k wow
@@nashcomp Ran all indie games I was throwing at it at 4k max setting(doesn"t really count) and even Dirt 4 or Dirt Rally 2.0 at 4k with low setting ,also tried fortnite on it at 4k and it managed quite well ,beyond expectations ,I'd say taking into account it is the 2GB version it did quite well ,the only problem was that at 4k It was hitting the 75W power limit due to not having a 6 pin power connector like other versions.
The 1630 makes 6400 and 6500xt a lot better cards
For the msrp of the 1630, A few 1070 can be found and some 1660ti
Yeah I keep meaning to look back at the 1070! Great card
@@RandomGaminginHD you should look into the used market idk how it is where you are but my friend just got a 3060ti for freaking 200 bucks lol. last month my other dude got a 2070 super for 200. i can see some cards just not worth to sell at all or worth buying. hell give it another month 2060 super gonna be 100 bucks easy
mate i follow u from 2018 i think and i love ur videos.
I have a feeling these gpus will have their RRP/MSRP dropped very soon due to the criticism being received …. It’s happened with the RX6500XT and RX6400 👍😅
Yeah the 6500 and 6400 are alright for the price I’ve seen them at some places, especially if you have a PCIe 4.0 system
you have an so pleasant voice. I love it to hear some news from you! Good works! 😊💝💙💛
Still rocking the 1050 ti (I have the ASUS Cerberus edition) over here, glad to see it in a video.
Yeah it’s still holding up well!
My EVGA GTX 760 SC beats a brand new gpu that costs over twice what the 760 goes for on the used market
Sad
Finally a card i can compare to my igpu
Another interesting video! Any chance we could get 'RandomGaminginQHD' sometime soon?
I love my 1050ti 4GB stormx never had any issues with it apart from slight overclocking it a bit too much and it made windows unstable but after restoring after my silly idea, its been excellent for me runs all my games with good temps and performance...I was offered a 1650 version but it was not the right price and to be honest... it seemed the best builds at the time for budget was with the 1050ti.. best decision I made, I dont live in UK and it seemed the best price too I got it around £100 at time and that was before all this flu thing started and people started going insane lol
Just bought a used 1050ti low profile for 120$ Canadian and I'm now wondering if it wasn't that great a price after all. Sadly I needed a LP version of the card and those seem to have a pretty big markup compared to the standard 1050tis.
It is insane still with the 1050TI selling upwards of 200 euro/dollars in august 2022 ( for some models even over 220 euros). I paid 170 euro's in 2016 or 2017 which I thought was high then!
You can get a 1650 for less now and even a 1660 super is on sale now for 199,99! ( the sale is only on one site and I am not sharing : ) )
Perhaps make a follow up video to show how performance upscaled for 30 series models. A nice comparison would be GT730 vs GT1030 vs GTX1630.
This is why I love your channel! Also can you compare it with rx 6400?
Check out scatter volt he made a comparison video between the 1630 and 6400
If you could you should look at some old Quadro cards. I got a mobile workstation recently with an old Kepler Quadro and it's still surprisingly capable.
The way i see this card is that although it's capable of gaming, this is mainly targeted towards productivity, basically a low cost successor to the GT 1030, with modern architecture.
my brother gave me his old 1050 ti recently and he upgraded to a 3060 ti, though not having enough wattage he's still running his old rx 570
What graphics APIs were being used? I wonder if it's a bit like what we are seeing with the Intel Arc GPUs - where they do better with DX12 and Vulkan, while the older GPUs do better at DX11.
I think its dx 11
Yeah, but that is because intel is basically making gaming drivers from scratch. Nvidia has no excuse.
Probably it is not like that as the gt1630 uses the same old chip as the 1650
The 1050 Ti has some life left in it yet because of FSR, especially the FSR 2.0 mod that lets it work in place of DLSS. It's basically a 30 FPS card at this point though but personally I'm fine with a locked 30 FPS so long as it's stable and properly frametimed (RTSS helps there).
Great card for it's price! I mean, both of'em 1050 and 1050Ti🤣
Dude I live right beside the sea and I have my window open so I was tripping thinking I could hear seagulls outside but it was actually from the video hahaha
So, my laptop 1050 with its 4gb of vram is as good as the gtx 1630? Truly amazing times, especially since I've got a much worse i5 7300hq at 3.1ghz.
4:08 are there chickens in your yard cuz I swear I can hear em
Would like to see a comparison to low profile cards to work out which one is best
I know this is a pretty old video now but a GeForce GTX 1630 vs Quadro P1000 would be nice as I think they are basically the same card.
Can't wait for the 3030 next year! 480p ray tracing, here we come!
From other benchmarks I saw, it is better to get the rx 6400 on pcie 3.0. I believe it's 10-20% improvement depending on the game and settings but that is the general difference between the two
I have both the HH SS size 6400 and a slot power only 1050Ti and the 6400 is faster in everything I tested except modded Minecraft. However I've had the 1050Ti for over 4 years and it will continue it's valiant service in a Dell MT. The 6400 is in a Dell SFF.
@@lewzealand4717 yeah both are great
That same model of the 1050ti the expedition series I believe.
Really nice card. Quiet and cool and been using one for half a decade.
Does Asus make those series anymore?
I’m not sure, but its a great card!
The 1630 vs 1050 choices for consumers is down to what they each (or in collabs) personally want especially since VMDq passthrough is a thing such as how shader-model is 6.4 vs 6.6 and cuda is 6.1 vs 7.5 and so for example that affects projects people might do which may also use OpenCL. Kinda like how people like to learn some tech things but also do a bit of gaming. Both, after all, are in the middle for GPU cards and not the top range in terms of speed so it is perhaps unsurprising that a person getting one is focussing their budget on other parts of the PC such as CPU. So for instance the CPU is often more for latency sensitive processing of OpenCL compared to the GPU, but the GPU still gets used for some things here and there. Leaning about OpenCL in general and being into making games mods can be exampled with how BeamNG uses OpenCL for physics. As soon as a gaming channel cracks open a level-editor in a game (e.g. FPS multiplayer) and starts modding and scripting for a heat-map, some other coder they work with will mention OpenCL and similar heatmap (e.g. Gaussian function) approachs to writing a game and designing a level for probabilities and predictions, like how in deathmatch where players fall, weapons drop and enemies are often nearby. Both the 1630 and 1050 have OpenCL3, see. The versions of cuda and shader model can also help in 3D modelling and art-packages or video-editing, all of which might contribute to making games.
My comment has no hate in it and I do no harm. I am not appalled or afraid, boasting or envying or complaining... Just saying. Psalms23: Giving thanks and praise to the Lord and peace and love. Also, I'd say Matthew6.
Algorithm assist incoming
I heard the seagulls. I'm glad they're doing okay c:
Haha yeah they’re all out enjoying the sunshine
I replaced a 1050 2 gig with a GTX 1660 6 gig. The main reason was it's the lowest price Nvidia GPU with NVENC that does B frames. Some 1650's use the same NVENC as the 1660, some 1650's use the same NVENC (no B frame support) as the 1050 and others prior to the 1650 with B frame support.
So I could have bought a 1650 to get what I wanted but telling which 1650 I'd be getting with a used card would be difficult or impossible.
The TU116 1650's use the same NVENC as the 1660.
That performance difference in cyberpunk nicely shows why nVidia drivers aren't open source. Imagine community prolonging the life of cars nVidia would rather see in dumps than in computers.
No, the vram matters quite a lot. Its just nvidia's memory compression is really good so even if you exceed the vram capacity your performance won't immediately tank. It'll take a slight dive.
If the 1050 had its full 4gb of vram, it'd have been as good as the gtx 1630, if not a tiny bit better.
Oh and of course, the mobile 1050 does have 4gb of vram, performs similar to the desktop variant AND uses only 50w. So, it'd even beat the 1630 in efficiency.
Mobile 1030 has 4 GB of Vram also.
@@DavidNgo86 Yep. That slipped my mind too.
I believe the strong point of the 1630 will be the price if it drops.
It needs to be around 100€ for that though.
Will you review the Intel's graphics card when it's out?
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From what I have seen you could buy a 1650 GDDR6 for the going price of a 1630 or a brand new 1050ti. I think it will be a long time before the price of a 1630 comes to reflect it's performance.
The new GTX 1050 super lookin pretty good 👀
well done with the face in the thumbnail lad
I'm still running the 1050ti. Its still an ok card, but is starting to massively show its age. A lot of it is probably my cpu as well.. its time for a complete upgrade, my motherbord is to old to upgrade cpu as its already maxed out :(
what motherboard you have? On aliexpress they sell laptop 10th gen laptop chips wich they modified so they fit 1151 motherboards, they are like 100 euro's for the 6 core 12 thread ones.
@@budgetking2591 my motherbord is an asus z97-e usb 3.1 1150 socket.
I have an I7 4790k its the best the bord can take as far as I understand it. Basically its so old its time to upgrade it all.
Thank you for the suggestion though.
video idea: use dxcpl to enable software rendering on modern games
any chance you can test the 1630 with a native 1366*768 monitor?
At 1:25 NPC phases through vehicle. LOL what the fuck.
only use i see buyin' a GTX 1630 is if u have an extra PC for dedicated Streaming PC purposes on tha cheap and u just wanna stick in tha GPU without too much of a PSU upgrade just because tha GTX 1630 is a Touring GPU, which means u get access to New Nvenc for Touring and above
The only GTX 1630 I can find is at Scan for £179. I picked up my GTX 1050 used for £74. The cost of the 1630 is ridiculous.
Some things to consider : 1. quantity of VRAM - either you have it or you don't . Some games require 4 GB VRAM even on 1080p low. If you have only 2 GB , then system RAM would be used which is much slower 2. speed of VRAM - difference between GDDR5 and GDDR6 is not that great, except in games that move around large textures like Cyberpunk 2077 . Thus 1630 actually wo in that game . 3. processing power - usually most important thing, 1050 Ti has clear advantage there and so advantage in most games . 1050 is not so far in this regard compared to 1630 . 4. Bandwidth - to notice the difference you would need to have more "rich" textures i.e. higher details . Perhaps testing 1050 Ti vs 1630 in 1080p high in Witcher 3 would show the difference between full and cut PCIe lanes.
I feel that an Ampere 30 series card would definitely be appreciated for that sub 150$ market.
Getting a used 1660S or 5500xt is 🔥 under $200 and really good bang for buck
GTX 1050 twin FAN Expedition edition ❤️
The 1630 was designed and priced for the time when there was a GPU drought. When second hand 1050's were selling for much more than they do now. Now we seem to have a bit of a GPU glut and the 1630 doesn't make any sense. Maybe if it was the same price as a 1030 was.
I found a guy selling used 1050TIs for 85$. What incentive does anyone have to buy this card for 160$?
@@LSK2K They don't now. 8 months ago a 1050 second hand was selling for over $200-$250. That's when this card made sense. (from a manufacturer point of view) Nvidia probably designed the card then but was short sighted and expected the mining gravy train to continue forever,
@@baroncalamityplus but they already knew the prices were down pre release. They saw the prices are down and still thought to release this card at 170$. Hopefully they lose money and not pull this crap again.
Try using the cards with a stronger one and use Async Compute in Halo Infinite?
thank you for the vid. I'd have added the GT 1030 in that list. ;-)
The 6500xt doesn't look a.bad deal now..even using PCI gen 3 it performs alot better
It's a shame, that a new entry "gaming" card in 2022 can not beat an 7 almost 8 year old budget gaming card. :')
Hi Steve, I see ur using mostly low settings. Why is that? I mean u're mostly using CPU at those settings. Do the results differ at all on higher settings?
wonder how the wall socket wattage varies......
Man, that 1630 is still like 175,- in store (euro)
Insane pricing lol.
Don't worry guys, nvidia never fail us...
Now we need 1630 super that can compete with 1050ti, just add $50 more
1630 ti comes next. and to fill the gap comes the 1630 super
Let's not forget the 1610, guys.
It'll somehow be unable to beat the 210 in performance.
Also RTX 3030, its a shame if the don't launch it for $229 for raytraced gaming @480p
@@cheapet50 360p ultra high setting immersive gameplay
@@diablotech385 Hey, I'd take it even on my 3060 now. ;P
Looking good with that shirt! ;)
right so its costs more than the 1050ti does which is 165.99 new from ccl and the gt 1630 is 193.99 from ccl for the cheapest model and it requires a six pin power connector that the 1050ti doesnt require and it can work full speed in a gen 2 slot or a gen 3 slot
and of course the 1050ti performs better than 1630...
Hopefully you will get the Intel A380 for a test, it should be on pair with the 1630. Intel are saying that it will retail for 130$.
Yeah I’m looking forward to getting my hands on some Intel GPUs
Presumably the 1630 exists for when the 1050 & 1050 Ti are no longer available, but it makes no sense for it to be more expensive than a 1650, unless of course it will still be around when the 16 cards are only still available via eBay. It makes me wonder if there will be an RTX/GTX 2650, 2660 range. Will we see a low profile RTX card (that isn't technically a workstation card)?
I mean, the most puzzling question for a long time has been "why is the GT 1030 still on sale?".
Good news is: nobody has to buy a 1630. In the used market you very often get a 1050 Ti or 1650 (S) for a descend price (again).
Saw many 1050 Ti for about 95 € these days on eBay here in Germany.
Only you would display the cards lying on grass. That's why I love you. haha
I figured it’s so hot out that there’s no chance the grass is wet haha
I think it would be interesting if they would make low end cards with Raytracing and more importantly DLSS. Instead of GT they could just name it RT (e.g. RT 3030).
Yeah that would be cool
They need to sell the 3050 ti (laptop) for desktops that would be almost exactly what we need for this. I don’t know if raytracing would do much on cards weaker then that tho, even my 2070 max q doesn’t handle ray tracing very well :(
@@yyeezyy630 I think that Ray Tracing even on those weaker cards makes them more future proof. It is bit like the Xbox Series S which also only supports Ray Tracing in a very basic form.
is shadowplay recording working on 1630?