Not Another 'Loco Add-on Bundle' ~ A Train Sim World 3 Rant
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มี.ค. 2023
- This time, I'm criticizing some Dovetail twaddle again. Clearly learning nothing from (or ignoring any backlash against) the last 'Loco Add-on Bundle', they're trying it again. Another thing they're trying is my patience (and any respect I might still have for them).
For some reason, they think that re-skinning locomotives and units we already have is a good way to retain interest in Train Sim World 3's core routes. As if the overly frequent DLC releases weren't bad enough.
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Honestly I think the the ge c44-9w would be included instead of the emd sd70ace in the cajon pass.
The trainbow livery on the ICE 3 was actually in the creators club before, but it got taken down. It's a joke that DTG are charging for a stripe
And to think people still try to defend those clowns. The 'if you don't like it, don't buy it' argument is just as overused as it is redundant.
I know it's too much for DTG, but I'm still waiting for an American Steam Locomotives DLC (like the U.P Challenger, Big Boy).
Are you going to do a review on the Spirit of the steam DLC? Cause your opinions and comentary is really great. I would want to see your opinions on IT.
As much as I want to tear that route to shreds (as it were), I dislike so much that I really don't want to touch it even with a 10-foot pole.
Get IT😅. I like that DLC because of the steam engines and trucks but then i dislike IT because its the only dlcs with steam Trains. I dont know why they dont do a DLC with some panniers on great western line. IT would hit and oné more thing. Why in Spirit of the steam DLC, there are no shunters. And big tender engine are the only oné shunting in yards . That's maybe my biggest dissapointement.
there title is all so wrong on the 37 class euro pheonix it says 37/7 on the site but look at there numbers and wooot it is a 37/8 coz it shows 37884 and 37800 but they forgot number 37901 which the are pictures of and its the same euro pheonix 37 class left out
The SD70ACe is my fav locomotive, they went with it because everyone edited it one there, and all class 1 railroads and most in the US either has then or had them, plus it is a easy transfer over, and it will bring more better and different experience to CJP, but yes I do want to see a ET44 or SD70MACE,
I wouldn't have thought it would bring that much more to Cajon Pass, besides EMD instead of GE sounds and a slightly different driving experience.
@The Trainspotter From Tauranga I mean for an American foamer yes because, the Gevo Vs The Ace is Like cops vs fighterfighters, the operating experience is not really to different but the technical spec are different, great decision BTW 🫡
I'll be honest, the BNSF SD70ACe looks really cool and I'm definitely going to pick it up, but none of the other stuff interests me, and the ICE repaints do look pretty crap. An ICE 4 would have been better, and the Class 37 does look ok, and it does add quite a few interesting looking gameplay elements, especially the new 375 variant. It could have been better, but it could have been a lot worse.
Frrrr
6:25 “focusing on freight”
Could the same be said for the North Island Main Trunk or any NZ rail line in general?
They should at leaat try and fix bugs, like catenary not appearing in some sections, and not a resking and MORE STRIPES.
They should really add the Amtrak P42 and Superliner coaches. That would be amazing.
Speaking as primarily a NA freight guy, here's locomotives I would rather have than a SD70 on Cajon Pass.
1. GO rail commuter train on Oakville (hey just because I'm a freight guy don't mean I can't appreciate passenger services.) Admittedly there most likely is a copyright issue.
2. GP7 on Clinchfield. I believe Matt has said this is something they would actually like to do, but they far as I know have yet to touch it. A classic high hood would be nice. Also would be a good locomotive to add some switching/shunting services. For some reason I have never understood Clinchfield has a almost complete lack of them. The biggest flaw on a otherwise great route.
3. Sand Patch Grade retro pack. What it sounds like. Say a Chessie System era pack of locomotives and cars. Do it like the retro pack for Great Western Express where it substitutes all other services.
4. Long Island Railroad extended. I doubt this happens, but I think we can all agree this route is nowhere near it's potential. Adding one of the diesel branch's would be nice variety.
5. Amtrak P42 and appropriate car sets depending on route. There's a few different routes this could be introduced on. I feel Cajon Pass and Horseshoe Curve would be the best ones. Most the other appropriate routes are too short so would have a lack of multiple appropriate stops, although it could be fine as AI traffic.
Those are all good ideas (my favourite being the extended LIRR). That route is awful, purely because of its extremely limited services in timetable mode and the sheer number of omitted lines. At the very least, DTG needs to add the Port Washington and Oyster Bay branch lines (as well as the DE30AC / DM30AC + C3 coaches).
The CN Oakville route is really weak because it's so short and linear, not to mention the largely dead-straight nature of the route and lack of GO Transit trains (despite passing a few GO stations). A Clinchfield GP7 would be nice, though I'd rather see the route extended down to St. Paul, Virginia. There was no reason to cut the TSW route at Dante.
I wouldn't mind seeing Chessie stuff in TSW, but I'm not a big fan of US freight routes. That's why I almost never touch Sand Patch, Clinchfield, Cajon Pass and have refused to get Sherman Hill and Horseshoe Curve. Cane Creek is so forgettable that I'm surprised I even remembered it now.
We need more Amtrak rolling stock in the game (something like the P42DC + Amfleets + F40 NPCU and a Boston to Brunswick route, which I thought of off the top of my head). Like I said in the video, you'd think that we'd get more Amtrak routes after the situation with ACS-64 No. 662.
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Well if it ain't what you're into that's fine and I ain't the one to try to sell you on the virtues of miles long freight trains much as I enjoy them. I swear a shocking amount of people who play rail sims thought get weirdly territorial about what they like and don't like far as nationality goes and go nuts if everyone else don't agree with them. It's so dumb. Also I have this theory that Dovetail just assumes most people who are fans of US content prefer freight, since US freight routes tend to be better done than US passenger routes, sans something like Cane Creek which is just pointless.
I reckon the devs should do frequent surveys where they ask the community what sort of routes they'd like to see in the game, instead of doing this like assuming a preference for US freight routes. In my case I like American trains overall, albeit with a preference for passenger trains (especially obscure commuter services like the Music City Star or Trinity Railway Express).
Incidentally we've got a few North American-built classes still running in New Zealand. The DXB / DXC / DXR subclasses, for example, were originally built by General Electric as the U26C model.
I agree with everything you said. I think Dovetail is sometimes 'No Help At All'.
Honestly I think those devs down at dtg don't give us US fans enough attention. Like how many times how we have been given the SD40-2 OR GP38-2 what about something original like some sort of Mac like you mentioned or maybe just maybe an actual dash 9 for a fallen flag railroad in the US you don't see that often.
Good thinking. They could also do something like a D&RGW narrow gauge line (with K-28 or K-37 locomotives). Or heck, even just early Norfolk Southern and the Saluda incline.
The reason why they went BNSF SD70ACE it has to do with all the freight railroads in the United States and Canada going for the same locomotives which means there isn't only UP operating them as seen in game because in real life CSX Canadian national and Norfolk Southern Canadian Pacific do operate SD70ACE.
For Long Island Railroad the only way to fix it is actually adding in East Side Access Grand Central terminal that way you get to experience how busy Harold interlocking is just like real life
A dragger 37, a Beansniff ACe and livery alterations? *insert listing stuff they could add instead of reused content*
bro even with sd70ace they didnt even get the right spects for it shown in the picture like come on🤦🏽♂️
I've said it before and I'll say it again we Americans have no representation in dovetails offices. One problem with cajon is that its just all desert and for that route you could've had an f40ph and ex Santa fe high-levels to make the desert wind
When you play it on game pass, you get 3 locomotives and the rest you have to buy at like 30 bucks each. I started playing train life instead... Damn that
One route I'd love to see is the Racetrack again. But, include the BNSF Mendota Sub to Galesburg. I'd purchase the route if you get the SD70MAC, C44-9W, F40PH, GP38-2, P42DC, B32-8WH, and SC-44.
Broken down for BNSF we'd get the SD70MAC and C44-9W for road freight. The GP38-2 for yard switching and local freight. The F40PH for Metra commuter services. P42DC for long distance Amtrak trains. SC-44 for Illinois state supported Amtrak trains and B32-8WH for switching around Chicago Union Station or occasionally leading an Amtrak train.
We would need both the F40PH-3 and F40PHM-3 for Metra services, thus avoiding the same problem with the Racetrack route in TSC.
@@DC4260Productions I plumb forgot about them. Thanks for reminding me. :-)
it’s funny the the SD70 what ever the hell it’s called looks the exact same as every other american freight loco. coming from an american
Imagine being a canadian railfanning in the 90s then 😂 the front of a cn gp40, sd40 w, sd50f, dash9 wl looked pretty much the same 😅
I'm sorry but if you dead ass thing the sd70ace looks like every other American locomotive you fr do not know trains at all there actually no way 🤣🤣 for example you thing a gevo and an ace look simular????? Wild
BRUH, we actually want more routes, like Frankfurt = Saarbrücken or Saarbrücken = Paris or Frankfurt = Köln, not just keep changing the livery
So angry I love it 😂
*ah shit here we go again*
-Carl Johnson 1992
Also *WTF* are dtg thinking to just change the red stripe on those German trains to make them gay and charge what 30 dollars for then
Like does livery designer not exist anymore?
And maybe instead of the 3rd class 37 we got a class 67 or 68 or maybe a class 59 (which is basically an older 66)
*also the only reason I’d ever buy this cash grab it to steal trains from Gillingham Depot and take them to St Pancras
That reference will always be a classic. As for the pack itself, when I was recording on SEHS I also thought that a Class 59 should be in the game too.
By the way, 59s and 66s look similar but they are quite different mechnically.
You know what? I think they should make the GE dash-9 and GE dash 8-40B in (santa fe colors) locomotives. and for Germany they should make a X-wagen push-pull set with the older BR-111 locomotive for Haupstrecke Rhien-Ruhr route. and for the UK, they should make the class 442 "Wessex Electrics" for London Commuter instead.
Thank you for Standing up to DTG and their money grabbing games
I absolutely agree with you they also need to change the road map to a railmap there practises are scummy.
You’r absolutely spot on another insult is west Cornwall local expecting people to
She’ll out for steam loco add on which takes piss given year later class 150/2 so called sprinter still nothing like any sprinter let alone 150 strikes me DTG and there cronies need to get priority’s right and fix broken stuff before introducing new stuff
Just to say this
Why the Spirit of Steam DLC pack haven’t thought of adding a Jinty tank engine as a DLC pack along with a LMS 4P tank
Why DTG even bothered making that route is beyond me. Out of all the possibilities for a steam route, they just had to choose something really dull and boring. Not helping the situation is the lack of variety in the motive power (the Jubilee and 8F are both Stanier designs and look very similar).
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Reasons
1. It’s literally the only steam locomotive route to animate and research steam locomotive operations
2. To answer that, because they yet to “experiment” more steam locomotives but decided “Nup, let’s use some Stainer locomotives and let Rivet to reskin them for later DLC packs”
The “Spirit of Steam” pack was promising but a huge let down due to that, I don’t know, there were more BR steam locomotives in the BR period in 1950s - 1960s. Which is why I typed why this pack need more steam locomotives for “better player’s experience” and a Jinty and a LMS 4P would be better as DLC pack to experience branch line, shunting and/or suburban operations
I think the route is far too bland, lifeless and disappointing for the first steam route in TSW. And it doesn't look like Peak Forest will be much better (of course they're re-using the Jubilee and 8F while only bothering to add one new locomotive; the Fowler 4F).
@@DC4260Productions They should really do the Somerset and Dorset Joint Railway as the better choice for TSW series DLC Pack
@@DC4260Productions If DoveTail Games will do another steam route for TSW series, clearly they should do Mary Valley Rattler with "actual research and thought into it"
(As there is a severe lack of narrow gauge routes and DLC packs for TSW)
A loco add on pack is fine but not like this. And I really really hope they change the model and at least give it nose headlights so thar we have some variation. But I hope they will stop with the SD70 ACE reskins…
DTG is slacking
Far as SD70 models go, personally I would like a SD70MAC with the old BN paint scheme patched. Like yeah, it ain't terribly different, but least it's visual variety.
The Grenstein Mac's. Some of the last diesels delivered to Burlington Northern before the ATSF merger. And kept coming after the merger.
How about they do a New York To Trenton re release. Take the bullshit we have now back and fix everything.
Sadly it still wouldn't excuse the piss-poor quality of the original.
I've relegated Direct To Garbage as a meme company now. So easy to make fun of. Laughing all the way to self inflicted insolvency 😁 Lost about half their player base with TSW3. Great job team! Pizza lunch on Friday!
I'll continue to play TSW3 for the time being. Not to support Doesn't Test Games, but because I still enjoy the game (in a way). I reckon the only way they'll ever truly improve is if enough people stopped buying their rubbish DLC.
My main issues with TSW
NO ROUTE EDITOR/CREATOR
scenario creator is bullshit (stick to ts classic for a good one)
Painfully short routes *cough* GWML a pathetic 35 MILES instead of coverage to Didcot Parkway and the Greenford branch
NO FUCKING OVERGROUND REPRESENTATION ON THE BAKERLOO LINE
*TRAIN SIM “WORLD” HAS NEVER HAD A ROUTE OUTSIDE NORTH AMERICA OR EUROPE
NOT ENOUGH ROLLING STOCK
SOUNDS ARE WORSE THEN 2017 ROBLOX TRAIN SIMS
SO MANY CUT CORNERS
AND SO MUCH MORE*
More money for DTG and DTG Only Care About the money it’s a joke
Instead of complaining maybe appreciate the game even exists and if you don’t want to buy it don’t buy it there is no problem
I do like TSW, but I don't like DTG's practices. And the fact that you don't have to buy the DLC doesn't justify the sub-par quality, questionable decisions on what to include or the price. Sure, I may not have to deal with the problems, but someone who buys the products will.