Be VERY careful tightening the stock retention screw. It threads into the magazine tube bridge and CAN dent the magazine tube, denting that will stop the shells from loading or even difficult to load them
Thank you Tom. I enjoyed watching this. I found one of these locally and am thinking about a similar project. Its 199 but if functional I am okay with that. A fun restoration project and a unique skeet shoot gun. Why not.
I have several 'farm guns' from my family's past A .410 bolt with detachable box mag, 16ga bolt tube fed like this one in the video, and a 20ga break open. Thank you for this video. I am slowly working on cleaning them up. Sure they might have a layer of rust on them like yours. But they are a connection to my past.
And a gun doesn’t have to be pretty to be useful. This one is a great shooter, and I think it turned out pretty decent after some cleanup. Thanks for watching.
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures Thank you for posting the video. And exactly. I have pretty firearms that were well maintained, and then I have the Sears specials that likely lived in the barn year round if the family stories are true!
I just got a 20 gauge jc for 140.00 it is in fantastic shape and has the poly choke on it. I think they are great shotguns. And made of wood and steel and that’s the only guns I have and collect..
Great video I just got one myself. And yes sir hate sears is going out my wife worked at a Sears for a while had a great time going in there and just look around
I am so glad that you appreciate a good functioning weapon regardless of the monetary value. My father and I used to go out and shoot together and this was one of my favorites but mine was 20 gauge
My dad had one similar with a variable choke. What was interesting was JC Higgins was a Sears and roebuck brand one of the companies that produce the guns were actually Marlin.
I have the same JC, and it is one of my tools I restored. I made mine olive green. They are not worth a great deal, but I would never sell this tool. It's on point and reliable. Great video, sir.
Exactly right, I have a few guns that aren’t worth a lot but they are just great pieces of machinery. Usually they are my favorites. Thanks for watching.
Found one in 16ga for $125. Only thing is the bolt comes straight out of the back of the action. Thanks to the video I seen that a screw stops it. So more than likely it can be a $3 fix to get it working again.
I just finished rebluing my 16 gauge (fume rust blue), new mag tube, spring, completely stripped the stock and refinished. It's looking good, but I forgot how to put it back together 🤣.
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures it turned out great! When I got it, it had been in a flooded basement for months, so the pitting was pretty severe. There are some telltale signs of rust removal on the barrel but it looks like factory finish now. I took it apart down to every pin and spring and that was about 18 months ago. I found another video with a full disassembly, but I enjoyed your video very much!
My grandmother passed away a few months ago after her house burned down and she left one of these. Stock has Crack above rear of trigger guard so gotta replace that. The barrel is full of drywall dust and other burnt stuff that I wanna clean. The inside of receiver isn't that bad just needs cleaned bolt moves just fine also needs some cleaning. This shotgun means a lot I belive this is probably her first gun it's the only one I know of her having and it would be cool if it could be my first gun someday probably get to cleaning it up next year or during the summer whenever I see it next of course.
At the very least you could make a nice display gun with it. I imagine that you could find a good stock online with some searching. I hope you get it looking and working good.
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures yeah I'd love to get it firing I'll make sure the barrel is safe though if it's not ill definitely make it a display gun and might as well keep original stock with it at that point and try to cover the Crack.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures I got to clean it up over the summer and it wasn't as bad as I thought. I still had to refinish the stock there is a charred end on the the muzzle end of the stock but it adds character so I opted out of sanding it until I found bare clean wood. I scrubbed very lightly with some fine steel wool on the metal and it cleaned up nicely the blueing looks amazing. I glued the crack in the stock shut and it held after around 10 test shots. The action is very smooth but I am missing a pin for the bolt handle that prevents it from swinging around freely. I'll just make my own the next time I see it. The stock is a beautiful reddish brown in the right lighting and I'm pretty happy with it
I just refinished a 583.33 turned out beautiful Although during my research I had found where sears recalled a lot of 12 ga due to the bolt retention screw allowing the bolt to fly from the back of the gun into the users face.
Tom I took mint to a gunsmith and he looked it all over we took it to the range and put it in a vice and remote fired it safely. We had 0 issues Mine is chambered in 20 ga All my research had the recall for 12 ga only Sears had a buy back program where if you mailed in just the bolt they would send you $100.00 later on they reduced it to $50.00 store credit My advice is do the research because i have also heard that the recall was never backed by the manufacturer and that it was due to fraudulent lawsuits to Sears and user error or abuse. I hope this helps
I just bought another Higgins 16 G today. Same model, just sweet 16. The same gun shop has a 22 rifle but I’m not a 22 fan. However, being a Higgins gun I will probably acquire it just on principle. Thanks for you vid.
I inherited one of these when my grandfather passed 13 years or so ago and it has been collecting dust in a corner of my cave. I hadn't really thought much about it until now. I might go break her down and see what it might take to get her cleaned up. The stock is split pretty bad, I'm not sure if it is even possible to get a decent replacement one anymore...
I would think that if you were patient you could find a good used stock, or maybe look into some repair techniques. If anything, clean it up and make a nice display to think of your grandfather.
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures That's what I'm thinking too. One of those ongoing searches for the right stock someday. Looks like there are a few vids out there that show how to repair a cracked buttstock as well. But for now I think I will give it a good cleaning and some TLC and at least make it a nice looking hanger. I appreciate you, bud. Thanks for the vid. And the unexpected call back to the old man.
@@frozenninja4030 this shotgun was my good friend’s fathers gun. Shortly after getting this gun his dad passed away so I gave it to my friend. It’s a good shooter, and reminder of his dad.
In the future you can put a damp cloth over the dents and press a hot iron over it. The steam will raise the dents out. I had one of them shotguns. I gave it to a friend. He didn't tell me his dad would be mad about having it. So his dad made him saw it into pieces. When he should have given it back.
Nice video. I have almost the same gun , but it is a model 582.24 in 16 gauge. It is missing the bolt stop screw. Ive searched the internet looking for a replacement , but no success. Do have any idea where I might find one? Thanks
I don’t know, it’s unfortunate but there’s not much out there for these great shotguns. I would suggest trying to track down a competent gunsmith. Best of luck, thanks for watching.
I recently was given the same JC by a relative. Mine has a strange bulge near the end of the barrel near the choke. Has anyone else seen this from these models? I have wanted to refurbish mine but I do not want to put the time and effort into it if this makes it unsafe to shoot.
Does anyone know where i could find a bolt assembly thats full functional for my model 583.1 ive looked everywhere and im only finding non working bolts
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures thanks for the info, do you know any good websites where someone would be able to fabricate some missing parts for the bolt?
No matter how good condition it is it was sold cheep one that’s completely rust free even 450 sounds optimistic but depends on the person I got a couple from my grand dad and they are as good as gold to me
My grandfather had one of these with a long tom barrel (34") in 16GA. Always wanted it but after my grandfather passed 3 of my asshole uncles took all my grandfather's firearms without my godmothers knowledge (power of attorney for my grandfather's belongings) and for the past 23 years only 2 of the 40 some firearms have been found and many others have gone missing and those uncles don't even know what happened to them.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures Be watchful of the grooves that the bolt slides along. I watched a video a day or two ago in which the poster discovered a hairline crack running along the receiver where the groove is. The metal is thin and after excessive use and pressure, it must have cracked. Be gentle to the ol' gal. I have a 583.23 of my buddies here. He said she kicks like a horse.
The one I have is 583.4 , not sure aht the point 4 means , I've seen a lot of different last numbers ? Not sure if that the production numbers of like the 4 one made or sumthing ? Lol
@@johnbart8454 You can research the model number to see if it means something special. Is yours a shooter? There was a recall on these for something if I remember correctly, so check it over carefully.
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Be VERY careful tightening the stock retention screw. It threads into the magazine tube bridge and CAN dent the magazine tube, denting that will stop the shells from loading or even difficult to load them
Great advice, thanks. This shotgun has been working great, sure does kick though!
I just got one 2 days ago. It was my Grandpa’s, my Dad’s, and now mine. Definitely nice to have a video to help me learn a lot more about it. Thanks!
Hope you get it cleaned up and enjoy it
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures that’s my project for today just gotta get some gun oil then it’s off to shoot this weekend!
Thank you Tom. I enjoyed watching this. I found one of these locally and am thinking about a similar project. Its 199 but if functional I am okay with that. A fun restoration project and a unique skeet shoot gun. Why not.
Thanks, this one turned out pretty good and is a nice shooting gun.
good video Tom,, that is good that you take the time to keep it right..
Tom Smales these guns have some sentimental value as well, going to cover that in a future video.
I have several 'farm guns' from my family's past A .410 bolt with detachable box mag, 16ga bolt tube fed like this one in the video, and a 20ga break open. Thank you for this video. I am slowly working on cleaning them up. Sure they might have a layer of rust on them like yours. But they are a connection to my past.
And a gun doesn’t have to be pretty to be useful. This one is a great shooter, and I think it turned out pretty decent after some cleanup. Thanks for watching.
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures Thank you for posting the video. And exactly. I have pretty firearms that were well maintained, and then I have the Sears specials that likely lived in the barn year round if the family stories are true!
Nice job and very helpful. I am going to clean up a 585 that was my Dad's, so this was a perfect tutorial for me.
James Walker glad it helped, thanks for watching
Thanks... Sorry it is a Model 583 nor 585... Time for new glasses.
I just got a 20 gauge jc for 140.00 it is in fantastic shape and has the poly choke on it. I think they are great shotguns. And made of wood and steel and that’s the only guns I have and collect..
Nice purchase.
Great video I just got one myself. And yes sir hate sears is going out my wife worked at a Sears for a while had a great time going in there and just look around
Colt Hattaway really hard to believe that such a giant company is going away. Goes to show that anything can fail.
I am so glad that you appreciate a good functioning weapon regardless of the monetary value. My father and I used to go out and shoot together and this was one of my favorites but mine was 20 gauge
If it works then I am all about it. I recently got a pump action JC Higgins as well, looking forward to cleaning it up and making it operate smoothly.
My dad had one similar with a variable choke. What was interesting was JC Higgins was a Sears and roebuck brand one of the companies that produce the guns were actually Marlin.
Yes, Marlin, Savage, High Standard and a few other companies all made guns for Sears under the JC Higgins name.
This is great! I’ve got the exact (or similar) model of 16 gauge and this makes me much less timid to take it apart and clean it for use!
demonjanitor good luck, hope it goes well for you. Thanks for watching.
I have the same JC, and it is one of my tools I restored. I made mine olive green. They are not worth a great deal, but I would never sell this tool. It's on point and reliable. Great video, sir.
Exactly right, I have a few guns that aren’t worth a lot but they are just great pieces of machinery. Usually they are my favorites. Thanks for watching.
I’m glad you took the time to give this gun some Love.
It ended up being a pretty good shooter and looks decent too.
Found one in 16ga for $125. Only thing is the bolt comes straight out of the back of the action. Thanks to the video I seen that a screw stops it. So more than likely it can be a $3 fix to get it working again.
Nice purchase, hopefully you get it sorted out and enjoy it!
tgis gun was built like a sherman tank. Dad gave me his in 64 and still like new. So many memories
Yeah, solid gun and a good shooter.
I just finished rebluing my 16 gauge (fume rust blue), new mag tube, spring, completely stripped the stock and refinished. It's looking good, but I forgot how to put it back together 🤣.
I have always wanted to try bluing, hope it turned out nice and hopefully the video helped get it together.
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures it turned out great! When I got it, it had been in a flooded basement for months, so the pitting was pretty severe. There are some telltale signs of rust removal on the barrel but it looks like factory finish now.
I took it apart down to every pin and spring and that was about 18 months ago. I found another video with a full disassembly, but I enjoyed your video very much!
Random generated Name I really like this shotgun, hopefully yours is a good shooter.
i picked up this identical gun for $50. i use it for trap, it is extremely reliable and a fun fun to shoot.
ShockRad great deal! The gun feels pretty well balanced, don’t need to spend a lot of money to have fun.
I have a chance to get one, and this video is swaying to a big YES! I think the craftsmanship ship is right inline with your craftsman screwdrivers 😎
If it’s a good price, you probably won’t go wrong. It’s a solid shooter, well balanced.
My grandmother passed away a few months ago after her house burned down and she left one of these. Stock has Crack above rear of trigger guard so gotta replace that. The barrel is full of drywall dust and other burnt stuff that I wanna clean. The inside of receiver isn't that bad just needs cleaned bolt moves just fine also needs some cleaning. This shotgun means a lot I belive this is probably her first gun it's the only one I know of her having and it would be cool if it could be my first gun someday probably get to cleaning it up next year or during the summer whenever I see it next of course.
At the very least you could make a nice display gun with it. I imagine that you could find a good stock online with some searching. I hope you get it looking and working good.
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures yeah I'd love to get it firing I'll make sure the barrel is safe though if it's not ill definitely make it a display gun and might as well keep original stock with it at that point and try to cover the Crack.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures I got to clean it up over the summer and it wasn't as bad as I thought. I still had to refinish the stock there is a charred end on the the muzzle end of the stock but it adds character so I opted out of sanding it until I found bare clean wood. I scrubbed very lightly with some fine steel wool on the metal and it cleaned up nicely the blueing looks amazing. I glued the crack in the stock shut and it held after around 10 test shots. The action is very smooth but I am missing a pin for the bolt handle that prevents it from swinging around freely. I'll just make my own the next time I see it. The stock is a beautiful reddish brown in the right lighting and I'm pretty happy with it
I just refinished a 583.33 turned out beautiful
Although during my research I had found where sears recalled a lot of 12 ga due to the bolt retention screw allowing the bolt to fly from the back of the gun into the users face.
I have heard about that recall. Not sure what to do with this nice looking and shooting gun now.
Tom
I took mint to a gunsmith and he looked it all over we took it to the range and put it in a vice and remote fired it safely.
We had 0 issues
Mine is chambered in 20 ga
All my research had the recall for 12 ga only
Sears had a buy back program where if you mailed in just the bolt they would send you $100.00 later on they reduced it to $50.00 store credit
My advice is do the research because i have also heard that the recall was never backed by the manufacturer and that it was due to fraudulent lawsuits to Sears and user error or abuse.
I hope this helps
Thanks for this cool video!
I just bought another Higgins 16 G today. Same model, just sweet 16. The same gun shop has a 22 rifle but I’m not a 22 fan. However, being a Higgins gun I will probably acquire it just on principle. Thanks for you vid.
Paul Balogh I need to visit some gun shops again, been a while since I’ve gone for a look. I like 22’s, my favorite probably.
I inherited one of these when my grandfather passed 13 years or so ago and it has been collecting dust in a corner of my cave. I hadn't really thought much about it until now. I might go break her down and see what it might take to get her cleaned up. The stock is split pretty bad, I'm not sure if it is even possible to get a decent replacement one anymore...
I would think that if you were patient you could find a good used stock, or maybe look into some repair techniques. If anything, clean it up and make a nice display to think of your grandfather.
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures That's what I'm thinking too. One of those ongoing searches for the right stock someday. Looks like there are a few vids out there that show how to repair a cracked buttstock as well. But for now I think I will give it a good cleaning and some TLC and at least make it a nice looking hanger. I appreciate you, bud. Thanks for the vid. And the unexpected call back to the old man.
@@frozenninja4030 this shotgun was my good friend’s fathers gun. Shortly after getting this gun his dad passed away so I gave it to my friend. It’s a good shooter, and reminder of his dad.
try numrich gun parts
Instead of narrow and wider in describing choke, you should consider using "constriction". That is what is commonly used.
Probably, I couldn’t remember how it was usually talked about…been a long time!
Good job spiffing up the old shotgun. My Dad has one like that from his father. Makes me want to clean up the old beater.
DaveTex2375 thanks, I’m really pleased with how it turned out. Still haven’t fired it. Failure on my part!
Good luck finding a stock for these.
You’re probably right, would be difficult.
Had a 16 gauge jc Higgins I actually used it more for hunting quail than my 12 gauge double fox
Doug Everett I like the feel of this gun, light and decently balanced.
Very nice 👍🏽
Thanks, this turned out to be a good shooter.
In the future you can put a damp cloth over the dents and press a hot iron over it. The steam will raise the dents out. I had one of them shotguns. I gave it to a friend. He didn't tell me his dad would be mad about having it. So his dad made him saw it into pieces. When he should have given it back.
Thanks for the tip. Sorry to hear about your story!
i have a 583 -18 is it almost the same as the 583-20 . also can the barrel be refurbish .
It’s good to know people are still using these old guns.
Wow i never seen one with a tube, i have a 195K-A mag fed bolt action 2+1
That sounds like a neat gun.
Very helpful but you didn’t show how you took the trigger guard off
I apologize, but it’s so difficult to get everything included and make a video that’s not an hour long.
Nice video. I have almost the same gun , but it is a model 582.24 in 16 gauge. It is missing the bolt stop screw. Ive searched the internet looking for a replacement , but no success. Do have any idea where I might find one? Thanks
I don’t know, it’s unfortunate but there’s not much out there for these great shotguns. I would suggest trying to track down a competent gunsmith. Best of luck, thanks for watching.
Thank for responding. Ill press on , eventually I will find one. @@TomsTinkeringandAdventures
try numrich gun parts mine was missing also got a 1/4 20 hex head screw works you could use blue loctite on it.
Do is the JCHiggins 12 gage bolt action for sale? I have a collection and it need a bolt action 12 Ga.
It’s not for sale, I fixed it up for my buddy…it was his dad’s.
I recently was given the same JC by a relative. Mine has a strange bulge near the end of the barrel near the choke. Has anyone else seen this from these models? I have wanted to refurbish mine but I do not want to put the time and effort into it if this makes it unsafe to shoot.
Maybe have a local gunsmith take a quick look at it. Might end up with a wall hanger…I have a rifle that will only be used for decoration.
Does anyone know where i could find a bolt assembly thats full functional for my model 583.1 ive looked everywhere and im only finding non working bolts
Unfortunately this gun was subject to a recall and many of these are probably scrapped, sorry to say.
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures thanks for the info, do you know any good websites where someone would be able to fabricate some missing parts for the bolt?
@@H3LLSTRIK3R if I were looking for parts I’d probably keep an eye on the GunBroker site. Maybe you can set an alert for parts that come up?
If there in good condition it could be worth more than 800 dollars
Billy Cantrell interesting, didn’t think they had much value. Regardless, it’s a good gun.
Where did you hear that? Gunbroker.com is telling me a different story.
No matter how good condition it is it was sold cheep one that’s completely rust free even 450 sounds optimistic but depends on the person I got a couple from my grand dad and they are as good as gold to me
My grandfather had one of these with a long tom barrel (34") in 16GA. Always wanted it but after my grandfather passed 3 of my asshole uncles took all my grandfather's firearms without my godmothers knowledge (power of attorney for my grandfather's belongings) and for the past 23 years only 2 of the 40 some firearms have been found and many others have gone missing and those uncles don't even know what happened to them.
I have witnessed how crazy families get after a loved one dies, it’s awful. Keep those memories of your grandfather, nobody can take those.
@TomsTinkeringandAdventures Be watchful of the grooves that the bolt slides along. I watched a video a day or two ago in which the poster discovered a hairline crack running along the receiver where the groove is. The metal is thin and after excessive use and pressure, it must have cracked. Be gentle to the ol' gal. I have a 583.23 of my buddies here. He said she kicks like a horse.
Thank you for the information, will keep an eye on it. Yes, this thing does kick like crazy.
Mine doesn’t have that screw to get the bolt out and still won’t release the bolt either way does anyone know anything about that
I gave this gun to my friend a few years ago so I can’t even check it out to see if I can figure it out…sorry!
All good was just curious cause there really isn’t anything online bout em
Ok I figured it out there was a pin by the loading gate I had to remove and then it slid out like a normal bolt action
Won the same gun for 100$ shipped 🎉
@@mr.5.04 hopefully you enjoy it.
What grit and paper did you use
Oh wow, I can’t remember because it’s been so long. Sorry. The gun did turn out pretty decent and is a good shooter.
Ok ! I'll look up sum other videos on stock sanding ! Prob 600 grit to be safe
The one I have is 583.4 , not sure aht the point 4 means , I've seen a lot of different last numbers ? Not sure if that the production numbers of like the 4 one made or sumthing ? Lol
Thanks for the reply back !
@@johnbart8454 You can research the model number to see if it means something special. Is yours a shooter? There was a recall on these for something if I remember correctly, so check it over carefully.
Just got it today from my grandpa
Is yours a 12 gauge?
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures16
@@Chiro_ASMR should be a fun shooter.
Can these handle steel shot?
I don’t know? Good question, because it’s a fairly light and well balanced shotgun…would make a decent duck gun.
Yeah my brother just got one and was wondering. Nice video tho 🤙
@@cklein458 thank you. This one is a good shooter.
Got my 20 g jc higgin restained and cut the barrel down a little looks way better
I bet it’s a good shooter.
I have the exactli the same, i live in norway🤠
Interesting that they were sold overseas, I figured this may have been a US only model. Thanks for watching!
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures this is probably smuggled in the country, we dont have sears😂
@@mariusalexanderlien3057 that’s what I was thinking! 😂
@@TomsTinkeringandAdventures i want a higgins 22 tho🙃☺️
3:20 "heh heh, heh heh. That's pretty cool Butthead"
Thanks Beavis!
You said “nice hard wood...” if you pause the vid and flip the device over, you look like Don King..👀
The About Nothing Show and I would say it again! 😂
I have the same gun that was my uncles
It seems like a lot of people here have had family members with these.