I never thought Trent went insane by seeing the movie... I thought it was the crashing realization of being one of the last sane people in a world of madness
If I might interject, I think his laughing might have had more to do with his accepting he was a fictional character. Cane wrote him and some of the others like Styles into existence. That was just my take, could be wrong.
27:11 My other interpretation of this moment was that John Trent was finally accepting the fact that _he_ was a fictional character who had just been created by Kane in order to be the protagonist for this story. In a kind of "Möbius strip" effect, he understands that the movie he's watching only exists because it is a media representation of the universe that _he_ inhabits while he's in the cinema. So he's not just laughing at the absurdity of it all... but he's also horrified because he knows that his existence will end as soon as the movie does. After all, the only reason he exists is to tell the story, so once that's over, so is he.
if it's so, then it feels to me like a cheap attempt at nihilism. You know, a sort of "What if we're all just characters in a story?" question meant to force in the reader/viewer the realisation of the lack of implicit meaning in life. It's overused.
@@shadowlord1418 no, it was already overused then because this is a "twist" that's been around in literature for over a hundred years. Lovecraft, to make an example, is full of these "In truth you and everything you've ever done never mattered" moments.
How would you know if you were fictional? I mean really think about it…Best line of the movie “reality is only what we say it is” So how would anyone know if this really is reality.
Saw it at theater as a teenager, only started to get it after several watches throughout my 20s I get something new each time, which is it's own kind of creepy.
'The Thing' is inspired by Dante's Inferno: Circle 7 {Cantos XXIV and XXV} to Circle 9 - Traitors in the Ice. All in this order. This includes the passage via the Giants in the Well. The Thing is a composite of Cacus and the Serpents.
Something you didn’t mention about the end of the film and what makes it even more clever is that the film being watched at the end of the movie is the same one we’ve been experiencing. In essence, at the end of the movie, the implication is that we too are damned and doomed to the same madness for sharing the experience.
Yup. And therefore, this may legit be one of the most dangerous movies ever made. What if every time someone watches this movie, more demons slip into this realm?
In a turn of meta, recall the moment near the end of the dialog with the doc thinking he found a flaw in the proposed “grand plan” described in the tale of the journey, that the book was limited to those who could read, that those who couldn’t read would be safe from influence... Only for the retort, “that’s what the movie is for...” ...and then the end in the theater... Boom. Headshot.
@@baintreachas The whole movie is a narrative told by the character to the doc, describing the end of the world’s sanity by the author. The doc points out that the book wouldn’t affect the illiterate… The character scoffs, retorting that the movie will get the rest”…
@@dranksinatra2493 right, unless they are... non-English speakers. well, blind non-English speakers, maybe... personally it's hard to imagine being entranced in quite the same way by a shitty dub but maybe that'd do it
I dont know how i missed seeing it before. My friends all like these kinds of movies and strange none brought this up as suggestion. Looks wild. I like Sam Neil, he likes playing in weird stuff for a long time, he is not just in stage theater or "realistic drama", he has done a lot of creepy horror shows. He was the adult Damien in the Omen series i just remembered. Lol
Lovecraft fandoms talk about it a lot too. For some reason the consensus is Event Horizon is better, but that is madness in my opinion. No pun intended. Hellraiser 2 was better, also just an opinion.
I saw it when it came out and have loved it since. Literally gets better with each viewing. So glad more people are giving it the attention it deserves.
Pickman was an artists that went missing. His friend start looking for him and in the end learns that the monsters in his paintings are real. Change artist with writer, friend with investigator and paintings with books and you have this movie. Really enjoyed the movie. It's Pickman's model plot line with King in Yellow McGuffin (i.e. a book that makes everyone go mad).
@@jeremyzak654 I’m pretty sure the only thing it has from call of cthulu is just talk of old ones and general cosmic horror. Which is to say not really anything it doesn’t already get from shadow over innsmouth
The old lady at the hotel “Mrs. Pickman” is definitely a reference to H.P. Lovecraft’s story “Pickman’s model” I caught the reference to “They Live” at the end of the vid. CONSUME MEDIA!! Well done sir 🙂👍
@callmecatalyst Yeah I tried to think of how Mrs Pickman might be analogous to the Pickman in Lovecraft’s story and came up with nothing. If I’m remembering correctly Pickman was an artist who made uncanny yet inspired paintings of grotesque, horrifying creatures and it turns out he was using actual “demons” as his models, that had crawled out of an ancient well deep in a long forgotten cavern/basement. The final metamorphosis of Mrs. and Mr. Pickman into grotesque demonic creatures like what may have crawled from the ancient well is the only possible link I could come up with off the top of my head and that’s stretching it……….not my head but the possible link from book to movie. 🙂👍
The movie defiantly hit all the bigger names if you know your lovercraft, just in this ending explained i caught 'pickmans model', 'shadow out of time', 'dagon', 'call of cuthulhu', even sprinklings of 'the dunwhich horror'
@callmecatalyst What do you mean? King just payed tribute to the story he used as plot reference. 1. Artist goes missing. 2. Someone starts looking for him. 3. stuff gets weird and the monsters are real. Can't believe you read the short story and didn't notice the direct correlation. Maybe read it again, it's just a few pages long. Similar to how Avatar is just Pocahontas in space.
@callmecatalyst I can understand your point and I see where your coming from, that being said Lovecraft created a whole pantheon of gods and inspired several people to carry on his work. so we'll see if they stand the test of time lol
@callmecatalyst literally what are you talking about the story is like the exact same except modernized lmfao. it wasn't just random name picking and see what sticks. Not saying that it's flawless but i think he did a decent job. a nice touch to add the creepy painting in the room with mrs pickman as well. but that's just my opinion.
I have a personal history with this movie. When I was in high school, we watched the movie and loved it. Turns out the filming locations were all close to us (Toronto, Canada). So, we smoked a few blunts and drove out to the church. This was at night, outside the city basically a farming area. We hopped the fence, had bats just in case. It was the Slovak Church of the Transfiguration. I kid you not. The murals were even the same as the movie. So proud to be Czechoslovakian at that moment. Anyways, after hearing barking and thinking huge dogs were coming for us, and seeing strange red lights coming from the basement of the church, we were just a bit freaked out. Oh, I neglected to mention that we also ingested some shrooms. So a few minutes of exploring and then we heard sirens and saw flashing cop car lights. They were actually very cool cops. Instead of assuming we were just there to smash windows and loot, etc., they gave us a chance to explain. Canadian cops can be really cool sometimes. So we had to try and explain the plot, and try to name the actors. They ended up letting us go with no issues, they even said it sounded like a great flick. I understand it sounds underwhelming, but anyone who has had a difficult trip with weed and shrooms, would understand. This was an unforgettable experience, and I wouldn’t change a thing. Respect to the Durham Police for being real people, they really adjusted my opinion of local law enforcement. If you guys are reading this, I just want to say “thank you.”
@@tonynittoli4792 I literally watch this movie once a quarter. It’s so odd and gives me such nostalgia. The Thing is my all time favorite horror movie but ITMOM has this rewatch ability factor for me. I love it!!!
The dreaded double dream? I had one the other week where I woke up 5 times, all inside the dream. Made me question my reality for half a minute when I really did wake up so I can empathise with Trent here
I never had it before. But when i was a kid i dreamed i had a very mundane school day. Just as i was leaving to go home i woke up and it was monday morning.
Same. Dreams within dreams are so weird. I remember woke up several times and looked at the door and each time it was a different door from my rooms in previous houses we lived in. When I finally did wake up I like had to confirm I was actually awake and I’m actually in the present
I thought I was the only one who had those inception dreams. Sometimes it gets to a point where I realize I’m dreaming and think I’ve somehow fallen into a coma or that I’ve died and that this weird semi-conscious “reality” is for eternity. It’s terrifying. I’m not particularly religious but that’s how I would describe hell. & Don’t get me started on sleep paralysis OBEs.
It is my very unprofessional and uneducated opinion that dreams within dreams are a sign that you're experiencing some kind of personal trauma and possibly not dealing with it.
I loved this film back then and I love it today. Sam Neil is one of my favorite actors of all time. Event Horizon is another awesome film with Sam in it too.
@Brique Zallivam He, like many others, enjoyed Event Horizon. It's a bit extreme to judge someone's taste on one movie. Do you only like critically acclaimed films?
Would love to see you do an Ending Explained for 'The Number 23' with Jim Carrey It was a trippy movie that was a bit confusing and is a movie I seriously loved and would love an explanation for it :)
Finally someone recognizes In The Mouth of Madness as "brilliant". I also always loved it and only increasingly so every time I watch it. I think what throws people off is the production quality is hardcore '90s style, damn near high-level TV movie quality. Madness' audio mastering and, like, video coloring or editing or something just feels a tad... cheap, in a weird way. It's like a notch above The Stand TV series (the overall quality of which- should be noted- is great). But then you pay attention and the pacing is damn near fucking perfect. The action creeps up like an eel, you get jump scares that don't feel too cheap, you get mind-fucked, there's foreboding tension that actually pays off, there's creature horror, and they don't cheap out at all on the Lovecraft mythos part. It ends as Lovecraftian as anything ever should, and IMO adds to the official Lovecraft extended mythos perfectly. When people ask my favorite horror movie, my answer is probably gonna be In The Mouth of Madness. Sam Neil, absolute God-King of '90s movies. Just an automatic quality multiplier, no matter the quality of the production itself. BTW nice haircut, Mr Dad lol
Probably my favorite JC flick, which is saying a lot. Dude has made some real bangers! As a Lovecraft nerd who's been disappointed by 99% of all attempts to capture a true Lovecraftian feel on film, I can't help but stand in awe that Carpenter not only succeeded where so many have failed, he did so with an original story rather than adapting one from ol' Howard.
I was in college when this movie came out and one of the effects guys did a talk on campus. I'll always remember him talking about the big mass of creatures that chase Sam Neil through the hallway and that his team nicknamed it "the parade float". Even seeing it in static images, it was pretty trippy.
@callmecatalyst ok lol Possession is a good movie to. I prefer Event horizon though lol. Imo It's not one of the best movies ever, but his performance was excellent (talking about Possession btw lol)
The best quote from they live wasn't the bubblegum one it was before in the alley during the knock down drag out: "You're going to put those glasses on, or you're going to start eating that garbage can."
I've actually had quite a few "dream within a dream" experiences myself. Mostly involving waking up to go to the bathroom, realizing I'm not actually awake, and then having it happen a few more times before I actually wake up. It's really quite annoying when it happens.
could be worse. Mine are mostly nightmares where i die increasingly scary deaths and revive at a fixed point in time only to die again. Only stops when i wake up, at which point i stay paralysed for a good 2-3 mins waiting for the next death in my dreams i am a horror game protagonist i guess, just not the kind that gets to survive
This film and soundtrack absolutely slap. There is just one thing I am curious about. I have always felt like there was a good bit left on the cutting room floor or scenes written that Carpenter just couldn't shoot due to budget or time constraints. Not because the film doesn't feel complete, it definitely does. ITMOM just leaves an impression or nagging feeling that there was just a little more that we didn't get to see and experience. Then again I'd enthusiastically watch a 6 hour cut of any Carpenter movie so maybe it's just me wanting more.
Its so bad tho, i was really disappointed with that and vampires. Havent seen them in awhile so maybe now that im a lil older and wiser that maybe i missed something
"People turning into monsters!" LOL! Enjoyed your review. Kurt Russell was very good in The Thing, and he's in BTiLC too, popular choice for John Carpenter ! Remember watching The Fog - really claustrophobic atmosphere, with a bunch of people going manic! Sam Neill is great casting choice here.
I love this movie! It’s what got me interested in the H.P Lovecraft/Cthulhu genre! This is a priceless gem of a movie that has never gotten the attention it deserves!!
This is my favorite horror movie of all time and one of the few legitimate Lovrcraftian-legacy films to stay true to its namesake. Thank you for doing a video about it!
Can't believe you didn't have a video for this already...one of my favorite movies...Carpenter clearly has some love for Lovecraft... This movie and The Thing, Big Trouble, and Escape from New York are some of my favorite movies of all time...
Surprised I took this long but new you would eventually cover this criminally underrated masterpiece. One of my top 10 favorite movies of all time . It still amazes me how many people have not seen or even heard of it.
So this is the second or third time I’ve stumbled across this guys video and I gotta say I’m stunned by the amount of subscribers he has. Every video is “***** ENDING EXPLAINED” yet he never explains anything about the movie, just summarizes and that’s it.
I always talk about how good this movie is! I too didn't appreciate until later in life. I love Sam Neil. That horrified gutteral laugh he does at the end gives me chills.
Cain's Book: -blurs the lines between fiction and reality -creates believers / becomes a religion -brings the old ones thru a portal - *drives everyone to madness* Facebook: "hold my prophecy"
Carpenter is so amazing, Big Trouble is one of my favorite films (and escape from NY) but he really is a master of horror. He’s done so many different stories each with his own brand and i can’t get enough. Even his “bad” films like the ward has redeeming qualities. i’ll admit, i’m biased as hell, but i really do think he’s a genius.
What's really unique about this is that unbeknownst to Trent; him holding onto reason was the one thing that made him be portrayed as insane in a world of 'beleivers'. These believers, however paying the ultimate price for their tribal indulgence in reading and consuming Cane's content which was really just a conduit of evil from the unknown horrors. All the believers inadvertently allowed themselves to become puppets of this reality warping fiction and devolved into monstrosities in the likeness of these unknown horrors.
Since you’re a clear Carpenter fan, can we get a “Prince of Darkness” Ending Explained? I’ve seen it more times than I can count, but you do a really good job summarizing movies!
Weird completely off topic take on this video: your hair has been on quite the journey on this channel but this new style really suits you. Thanks for your dedication to film you REALLY help to make things make sense!
Fun fact: the church they filmed at actually was never finished and doesn't even have windows. It's in Richmond Hill, Ontario if you're curious. Tho it still is big and impressive in person.
In HPL's "Pickman's Model", Richard Upton Pickman is an infamous artist who goes missing. His paintings are hyper-realistic depictions of otherworldly creepy and grotesque creatures that he claimed he painted entirely from life. It's pretty apt that the Pickman hotel has a cursed looking painting in the lobby.
I was super happy to see this pop up in my notifications, this has been a favourite of mine since high school especially with Sam Neill being a fellow Aussie and I would only want to see you cover this movie as well ❤️
I always love the ending. Find it hilarious and wind up laughing. Also Sam Neil punching out the editor is quite funny. I know it's a horror movie but it always gives me a chuckle here and there. Great movie.
I’m so happy you did this movie. It’s one of my all time favorites and it’s extremely underrated. The number of fans in the world probably increased tenfold when you consider the size of your audience and the fact that most of us could actually understand the movie because of this vid
Oh yeah Big Trouble in Little China has a very special place in my DVD collection. The Chinese girl with green eyes and of course the Porkchop Express.
My dad put this movie on when I was either 9 or 10 years old and quite frankly, I had no idea what the hell was going on but I knew that I thoroughly enjoyed it. It kind of kickstarted my enjoyment of John Carpenter’s media ventures. I’d also like to add, I love ghosts of Mars.
I would love to see you do an ending explained for the film “Society”. Your channel has opened my world to dark and disturbingly beautiful films and I would really enjoy hearing your take on that movie. Keep up the great work!
What I find most intriguing about this film is the setwork. That church is real. It's just outside of Toronto, and if you look it up, it has a really odd backstory.
*TOTALLY UNDERREPRESENTED!* One of the best films ever!! And when I didn't think it couldn't get any better, I discovered HP Lovecraft..that put an ENTIRE NEW SPIN on this! I'm super glad they went with the ending they did..the alternate ending would have been VERY disappointing! 😳
The story really gives me Robert Chambers vibes. He was an inspiration to Lovecraft himself. His set of stories about people going mad from seeing the play "The King in Yellow" seems to be very similar to the madness caused in this movie.
This movie just proves how genius and ahead of his time Lovecraft really was. He literally invented "cosmic horror", and this movie is one of the best examples of it.
you aren't alone. we will get through this eventually, but it's good to feel your feelings. cry it out, laugh hysterically- it all helps. crying gets the stress hormone cortisol out from your body, & the amount of cortisol we have been experiencing literally ages & damages the body to have sit around. experiencing & processing these emotions helps regulate our bodies physical health, too.
@@MossTunic There's nothing to 'get through'. We are NEVER going back to normal. Our governments won't allow it. Covid gave them everything they've ever wanted.
When I was in high school, and friend of mine and I were bored out of our minds. We drove to Best Buy and sat in the movie aisle to look at all the movies. An employee came by and started recommending a few movies to us. This was his top pick. We went home and watched this and “I know who killed me” with Lindsay Lohan. What a wild ride.
have to say ive been watching your channel for a few years now and have to say i'm also a huge john carpenter fans...this one being my favorite. i'm so glad you covered this one the apocalypse trilogy is soooooo good. the idea of being inside the book and the lovecraftian creatures definitely make this one amazing movie. thanks for all you do. keep it up
"I'm sorry about the balls... It was a lucky shot, that's all!" Also absolutely agree. "The Thing", "ItMoM", "They Live", "Escape from NY" and "Big Trouble" are in my top ten for sure!
This was one of the few movies that actually showed me the road to Lovecraftian Horror and i have stuck to that path since. I true classic from the Master.
the 90s had some of the best horror movies , i really loved this when i saw it, i was 14 back then, really left an impact with me, especially the scene when he looked down the abyss, it stuck with me until now.
@Brique Zallivam would it though? I mean much of lovecrafts work is way less cryptic than people remember. Mountain of Madness especially had a huge segment of discribing the appearance and history of its "antagonist". I think with decent production design it could be a great watch, i hope for puppets/props though. CGI horror monsters were always a visual letdown for me
I never thought Trent went insane by seeing the movie... I thought it was the crashing realization of being one of the last sane people in a world of madness
Also I think the laughter is him giving in to the reality all you could do is laugh
I think it's the same result, regardless. You either join the mass hysteria or you go insane on your own. Which is Cane's point
Y’all are both wrong.. Cane just telepathically told him all about TH-camr Boxing in the Future
If I might interject, I think his laughing might have had more to do with his accepting he was a fictional character. Cane wrote him and some of the others like Styles into existence. That was just my take, could be wrong.
noneed4me2n7 and timdavidson8191, you are both correct, as I believe in the saying that ''two things can be true at once''.
"If you haven't seen Big Trouble in Little China, get on that shit immediately."
A man of culture, I see.😋
Totally spot on
It’s all in the reflexes I reckon. 😆
@@nealbarrett4500 Yes sir, the check is in the mail.
Watched this movie about 20 times
My thought exactly!
27:11 My other interpretation of this moment was that John Trent was finally accepting the fact that _he_ was a fictional character who had just been created by Kane in order to be the protagonist for this story. In a kind of "Möbius strip" effect, he understands that the movie he's watching only exists because it is a media representation of the universe that _he_ inhabits while he's in the cinema.
So he's not just laughing at the absurdity of it all... but he's also horrified because he knows that his existence will end as soon as the movie does. After all, the only reason he exists is to tell the story, so once that's over, so is he.
Thought the same!
if it's so, then it feels to me like a cheap attempt at nihilism. You know, a sort of "What if we're all just characters in a story?" question meant to force in the reader/viewer the realisation of the lack of implicit meaning in life.
It's overused.
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@@NeroCM its overused now not in 1994
@@shadowlord1418 no, it was already overused then because this is a "twist" that's been around in literature for over a hundred years. Lovecraft, to make an example, is full of these "In truth you and everything you've ever done never mattered" moments.
This movie does the "mind bending" trope correctly. It really stays with you.
IKR!!?
How would you know if you were fictional? I mean really think about it…Best line of the movie
“reality is only what we say it is”
So how would anyone know if this really is reality.
“Oh no, not the Carpenters too”
Do not watch if you have schizophrenia
Saw it at theater as a teenager, only started to get it after several watches throughout my 20s I get something new each time, which is it's own kind of creepy.
One my favorite "Lovecraftian" films.
Carpenters whole Apocalypse Trilogy (this film being the last entry) has a lot of Lovecraft themes.
I love when he mixes in classic films with the new stuff - his take always gives me a smile the next time I watch it
'The Thing' is inspired by Dante's Inferno: Circle 7 {Cantos XXIV and XXV} to Circle 9 - Traitors in the Ice. All in this order. This includes the passage via the Giants in the Well. The Thing is a composite of Cacus and the Serpents.
What were the other 2 films
@@chrisnicolet8910 First was The Thing, then Prince of Darkness, then In the Mouth of Madness.
@Tony Soprano Uh.
What?
Something you didn’t mention about the end of the film and what makes it even more clever is that the film being watched at the end of the movie is the same one we’ve been experiencing. In essence, at the end of the movie, the implication is that we too are damned and doomed to the same madness for sharing the experience.
Great point! And..easy to overlook - as you have pointed out! Good catch, my friend!
Yup. And therefore, this may legit be one of the most dangerous movies ever made. What if every time someone watches this movie, more demons slip into this realm?
You guys are smart.
In a turn of meta, recall the moment near the end of the dialog with the doc thinking he found a flaw in the proposed “grand plan” described in the tale of the journey, that the book was limited to those who could read, that those who couldn’t read would be safe from influence...
Only for the retort, “that’s what the movie is for...”
...and then the end in the theater...
Boom. Headshot.
*TF2 Meet the Sniper plays*
Non-English speakers:
@@baintreachas The whole movie is a narrative told by the character to the doc, describing the end of the world’s sanity by the author. The doc points out that the book wouldn’t affect the illiterate…
The character scoffs, retorting that the movie will get the rest”…
@@dranksinatra2493 right, unless they are... non-English speakers. well, blind non-English speakers, maybe... personally it's hard to imagine being entranced in quite the same way by a shitty dub but maybe that'd do it
Unless the movie bombs in the box office.
Sam Neil in both of the best twisted horror thrillers ever. Both this and event horizon are experiences.
I was just thinking that. The man just works as an actor in horror movies
Yep! Two of my favorite movies.
I agree Jurassic Park is super scary but you got Sam Neal ready to thug down and teach those dinosaurs the meaning of Extinction
@@whyarewealwaysyelling dang......ya beat me by 19 hours of when you commented
@Brique Zallivam ur absolute wrong m8 event horizon is epic .
This movie is so underrated. I've never met anyone else irl who's actually seen this movie. It's my second fave after Hellraiser.
Yessssss
I dont know how i missed seeing it before. My friends all like these kinds of movies and strange none brought this up as suggestion. Looks wild.
I like Sam Neil, he likes playing in weird stuff for a long time, he is not just in stage theater or "realistic drama", he has done a lot of creepy horror shows. He was the adult Damien in the Omen series i just remembered. Lol
I still have my VHS copy of this. LoL!!
Lovecraft fandoms talk about it a lot too. For some reason the consensus is Event Horizon is better, but that is madness in my opinion. No pun intended. Hellraiser 2 was better, also just an opinion.
I saw it when it came out and have loved it since. Literally gets better with each viewing. So glad more people are giving it the attention it deserves.
Pickman was an artists that went missing. His friend start looking for him and in the end learns that the monsters in his paintings are real. Change artist with writer, friend with investigator and paintings with books and you have this movie. Really enjoyed the movie. It's Pickman's model plot line with King in Yellow McGuffin (i.e. a book that makes everyone go mad).
Pickman's Model mixed with Shadow over Innsmouth mixed with Call of Cthulhu.
@@jeremyzak654 I’m pretty sure the only thing it has from call of cthulu is just talk of old ones and general cosmic horror. Which is to say not really anything it doesn’t already get from shadow over innsmouth
You forgot the hunter of the dark with the black church and all
Big trouble in little china is one of my all time favorite.
When I try to explain Lovecraft to people, I always recommend this.
@Brique Zallivam change that for me 🔫🙂
@Brique Zallivam the fuck is wrong with spongebob? Spongebob is the bop bro!
I recommend Color out of Space and to not Google the name of his cat
Fun Fact: The kid on the bike (I think the one Trent encounters after escaping with Cain's book) is Hayden Cristiansen.
And he is confused
As in darth vader himself???
@@robertmatthews1298 I believe so, yes. 😊😊
He is. Makes one wonder what Hayden would say if a fan asked him: "Ever heard of Hobb's End?"
@@EvilXero359 😅😅😅 He might not even remember doing it. OR, he might say, "That was where the fun began." 😏😏😏😂😂😂
The old lady at the hotel “Mrs. Pickman” is definitely a reference to H.P. Lovecraft’s story “Pickman’s model”
I caught the reference to “They Live” at the end of the vid. CONSUME MEDIA!! Well done sir
🙂👍
@callmecatalyst Yeah I tried to think of how Mrs Pickman might be analogous to the Pickman in Lovecraft’s story and came up with nothing. If I’m remembering correctly Pickman was an artist who made uncanny yet inspired paintings of grotesque, horrifying creatures and it turns out he was using actual “demons” as his models, that had crawled out of an ancient well deep in a long forgotten cavern/basement.
The final metamorphosis of Mrs. and Mr. Pickman into grotesque demonic creatures like what may have crawled from the ancient well is the only possible link I could come up with off the top of my head and that’s stretching it……….not my head but the possible link from book to movie. 🙂👍
The movie defiantly hit all the bigger names if you know your lovercraft, just in this ending explained i caught 'pickmans model', 'shadow out of time', 'dagon', 'call of cuthulhu', even sprinklings of 'the dunwhich horror'
@callmecatalyst What do you mean? King just payed tribute to the story he used as plot reference. 1. Artist goes missing. 2. Someone starts looking for him. 3. stuff gets weird and the monsters are real.
Can't believe you read the short story and didn't notice the direct correlation. Maybe read it again, it's just a few pages long.
Similar to how Avatar is just Pocahontas in space.
@callmecatalyst I can understand your point and I see where your coming from, that being said Lovecraft created a whole pantheon of gods and inspired several people to carry on his work. so we'll see if they stand the test of time lol
@callmecatalyst literally what are you talking about the story is like the exact same except modernized lmfao. it wasn't just random name picking and see what sticks. Not saying that it's flawless but i think he did a decent job. a nice touch to add the creepy painting in the room with mrs pickman as well. but that's just my opinion.
I have a personal history with this movie. When I was in high school, we watched the movie and loved it. Turns out the filming locations were all close to us (Toronto, Canada). So, we smoked a few blunts and drove out to the church. This was at night, outside the city basically a farming area. We hopped the fence, had bats just in case. It was the Slovak Church of the Transfiguration. I kid you not. The murals were even the same as the movie. So proud to be Czechoslovakian at that moment. Anyways, after hearing barking and thinking huge dogs were coming for us, and seeing strange red lights coming from the basement of the church, we were just a bit freaked out. Oh, I neglected to mention that we also ingested some shrooms. So a few minutes of exploring and then we heard sirens and saw flashing cop car lights. They were actually very cool cops. Instead of assuming we were just there to smash windows and loot, etc., they gave us a chance to explain. Canadian cops can be really cool sometimes. So we had to try and explain the plot, and try to name the actors. They ended up letting us go with no issues, they even said it sounded like a great flick. I understand it sounds underwhelming, but anyone who has had a difficult trip with weed and shrooms, would understand. This was an unforgettable experience, and I wouldn’t change a thing. Respect to the Durham Police for being real people, they really adjusted my opinion of local law enforcement. If you guys are reading this, I just want to say “thank you.”
That area in old Markham is one of my favorite spots in the city.( Hobbs)
I'm going to save this to watch later, so here is my comment for the algorithm!!
I am beyond stoked to see you cover this movie!!!!
THIS IS THE BEST DAY EVER!!! THIS IS ONE OF MY TOP 5 FAVORITE HORROR MOVIES!!! Thanks so much Chris 🥺🥺🥰❤️
The lady walking backwards freaked me out to no end.
I agree 💯, when I was younger this movie tripped me out. “ do you read sutter cane”
@@tonynittoli4792 I literally watch this movie once a quarter. It’s so odd and gives me such nostalgia. The Thing is my all time favorite horror movie but ITMOM has this rewatch ability factor for me. I love it!!!
@@craigh5236 first time seeing that scene scared me for weeks now I love, love, love that scene🥰
His name is Chris?
The dreaded double dream? I had one the other week where I woke up 5 times, all inside the dream. Made me question my reality for half a minute when I really did wake up so I can empathise with Trent here
I never had it before. But when i was a kid i dreamed i had a very mundane school day. Just as i was leaving to go home i woke up and it was monday morning.
@@irieite9666 it can be kind of scary depending on what kind of dream you’re waking up from. I hate when it happens when I’m being chased 😒
Same. Dreams within dreams are so weird. I remember woke up several times and looked at the door and each time it was a different door from my rooms in previous houses we lived in. When I finally did wake up I like had to confirm I was actually awake and I’m actually in the present
I thought I was the only one who had those inception dreams. Sometimes it gets to a point where I realize I’m dreaming and think I’ve somehow fallen into a coma or that I’ve died and that this weird semi-conscious “reality” is for eternity. It’s terrifying.
I’m not particularly religious but that’s how I would describe hell. & Don’t get me started on sleep paralysis OBEs.
It is my very unprofessional and uneducated opinion that dreams within dreams are a sign that you're experiencing some kind of personal trauma and possibly not dealing with it.
I loved this film back then and I love it today. Sam Neil is one of my favorite actors of all time. Event Horizon is another awesome film with Sam in it too.
@Brique Zallivam He, like many others, enjoyed Event Horizon. It's a bit extreme to judge someone's taste on one movie. Do you only like critically acclaimed films?
Would love to see you do an Ending Explained for 'The Number 23' with Jim Carrey
It was a trippy movie that was a bit confusing and is a movie I seriously loved and would love an explanation for it :)
Good pick im wit it
I second this
I think you have to make suggestions on a certain page
Edit I'd like to see it explained good movie
I had my friends tripping at the end of that movie I was don’t sleep on 9/11…think about it…9+11+2+0+0+1= 😂
Bad movie.
Finally someone recognizes In The Mouth of Madness as "brilliant". I also always loved it and only increasingly so every time I watch it. I think what throws people off is the production quality is hardcore '90s style, damn near high-level TV movie quality. Madness' audio mastering and, like, video coloring or editing or something just feels a tad... cheap, in a weird way. It's like a notch above The Stand TV series (the overall quality of which- should be noted- is great). But then you pay attention and the pacing is damn near fucking perfect. The action creeps up like an eel, you get jump scares that don't feel too cheap, you get mind-fucked, there's foreboding tension that actually pays off, there's creature horror, and they don't cheap out at all on the Lovecraft mythos part. It ends as Lovecraftian as anything ever should, and IMO adds to the official Lovecraft extended mythos perfectly. When people ask my favorite horror movie, my answer is probably gonna be In The Mouth of Madness. Sam Neil, absolute God-King of '90s movies. Just an automatic quality multiplier, no matter the quality of the production itself.
BTW nice haircut, Mr Dad lol
Probably my favorite JC flick, which is saying a lot. Dude has made some real bangers! As a Lovecraft nerd who's been disappointed by 99% of all attempts to capture a true Lovecraftian feel on film, I can't help but stand in awe that Carpenter not only succeeded where so many have failed, he did so with an original story rather than adapting one from ol' Howard.
I think ITMOM is one of the most underrated movies out there. It's also the best HP Lovecraft movie ever made
I was in college when this movie came out and one of the effects guys did a talk on campus. I'll always remember him talking about the big mass of creatures that chase Sam Neil through the hallway and that his team nicknamed it "the parade float". Even seeing it in static images, it was pretty trippy.
Love this as much as Sam Neil in horror rolls and John Carpenter. Prince of Darkness is utterly amazing
I waiting for him to also do event horizon I love sam Neil to!
@callmecatalyst ok lol Possession is a good movie to. I prefer Event horizon though lol. Imo
It's not one of the best movies ever, but his performance was excellent (talking about Possession btw lol)
@@briannestewart5126 same
Sam Neil was also excellent in "Dead Calm"
I liked that one as well.
To quote another carpenter film, “I’m here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I’m all out of gum”
Sounds like he's going to chew ass instead seeing as he ran out of gum to chew
The best quote from they live wasn't the bubblegum one it was before in the alley during the knock down drag out:
"You're going to put those glasses on, or you're going to start eating that garbage can."
Blue is a key color in this movie and is a sign of the spreading evil.
Democrats
Demon rats
I've actually had quite a few "dream within a dream" experiences myself. Mostly involving waking up to go to the bathroom, realizing I'm not actually awake, and then having it happen a few more times before I actually wake up. It's really quite annoying when it happens.
could be worse. Mine are mostly nightmares where i die increasingly scary deaths and revive at a fixed point in time only to die again. Only stops when i wake up, at which point i stay paralysed for a good 2-3 mins waiting for the next death
in my dreams i am a horror game protagonist i guess, just not the kind that gets to survive
This movie has one of the most interesting DVD commentaries I have ever listened to. All about framing shots and how to use the camera.
This film and soundtrack absolutely slap. There is just one thing I am curious about. I have always felt like there was a good bit left on the cutting room floor or scenes written that Carpenter just couldn't shoot due to budget or time constraints.
Not because the film doesn't feel complete, it definitely does. ITMOM just leaves an impression or nagging feeling that there was just a little more that we didn't get to see and experience. Then again I'd enthusiastically watch a 6 hour cut of any Carpenter movie so maybe it's just me wanting more.
I feel ghosts of Mars is the closest to an actual DOOM movie personally
Its so bad tho, i was really disappointed with that and vampires. Havent seen them in awhile so maybe now that im a lil older and wiser that maybe i missed something
@@wallcity318 It was not good but it was not bad. I enjoyed it for the most part and yes it was closer to an actual DOOM movie than what we've had.
"People turning into monsters!" LOL! Enjoyed your review. Kurt Russell was very good in The Thing, and he's in BTiLC too, popular choice for John Carpenter ! Remember watching The Fog - really claustrophobic atmosphere, with a bunch of people going manic! Sam Neill is great casting choice here.
I love this movie! It’s what got me interested in the H.P Lovecraft/Cthulhu genre! This is a priceless gem of a movie that has never gotten the attention it deserves!!
This is my favorite horror movie of all time and one of the few legitimate Lovrcraftian-legacy films to stay true to its namesake.
Thank you for doing a video about it!
Every time I heard "Do you read Sutter Cane?" My mind replaced it with "Have you seen the Yellow Sign?"
The King in Yellow
I've been waiting for this video ever since I started watching Ending Explained. I'm so excited! This is my favorite horror movie of all time.
Thanks you, man. I’ve always wanted you to cover this gem. It’s literally…madness. I love it.
Sam Neill is seriously one of my favourite actors. He's been in so many trippy movies. Don't get me started on Possession
“You’re gonna be a problem aren’t you Styles” was the funniest thing I heard today !!!!!! I literally lol’d🤣🤣🤣🤣
Laugh out louded?
lol'd
@@mhauser9457 Who cares?
This and" Lord of Illusion" blew my mind as a kid.
Can't believe how underrated both these movies were.
"I wasn't born to show people the errors of their ways, I was born to murder the world."
- Nix
I oddly never liked lord of illusion. I was like 11... but I didn't like quantum leap man being a jerk
Two of my favorites. I watch every year.
Can't believe you didn't have a video for this already...one of my favorite movies...Carpenter clearly has some love for Lovecraft...
This movie and The Thing, Big Trouble, and Escape from New York are some of my favorite movies of all time...
This scared the shit out of me when I was 11. I loved it.
FACTS!!!!!
I feel like I watched this years ago and my brain filed it away as a nightmare instead of a movie. Definitely need to watch again.
What I find mind boggling is, "What don't people understand?" and "How can you have any doubts as to the ending?"
Yog-Soggoth sends his regards.
Dude, how weird is it that I was just thinking about this movie yesterday? I even went and put that main guitar theme into my music playlist.
I swear I was literally telling a friend about it. Ironic af. Lol
Dude,, that haircut you've got is GREAT!! Looks REALLY nice!!👍
GREAT review BTW!... I'm SO glad you picked THIS particular movie!!👍♥️💯
Surprised I took this long but new you would eventually cover this criminally underrated masterpiece. One of my top 10 favorite movies of all time . It still amazes me how many people have not seen or even heard of it.
This and "Event Horizon" are favourites in the "lovecraftian" genre/style.
So this is the second or third time I’ve stumbled across this guys video and I gotta say I’m stunned by the amount of subscribers he has. Every video is “***** ENDING EXPLAINED” yet he never explains anything about the movie, just summarizes and that’s it.
Well John Carpenter really liked end of the world films
After all he had a whole trilogy of them
I KNEW you’d call out Vigo the Carpathian. That single comment made this whole video for me. Love your stuff. Please continue to do your stuff!
I always talk about how good this movie is! I too didn't appreciate until later in life. I love Sam Neil. That horrified gutteral laugh he does at the end gives me chills.
Cain's Book: -blurs the lines between fiction and reality
-creates believers / becomes a religion
-brings the old ones thru a portal
- *drives everyone to madness*
Facebook: "hold my prophecy"
Carpenter is so amazing, Big Trouble is one of my favorite films (and escape from NY) but he really is a master of horror. He’s done so many different stories each with his own brand and i can’t get enough. Even his “bad” films like the ward has redeeming qualities. i’ll admit, i’m biased as hell, but i really do think he’s a genius.
What's really unique about this is that unbeknownst to Trent; him holding onto reason was the one thing that made him be portrayed as insane in a world of 'beleivers'. These believers, however paying the ultimate price for their tribal indulgence in reading and consuming Cane's content which was really just a conduit of evil from the unknown horrors. All the believers inadvertently allowed themselves to become puppets of this reality warping fiction and devolved into monstrosities in the likeness of these unknown horrors.
Weird. I watched this with my friend last week, we both quite enjoyed it, wasn’t expecting this, but delighted I got it!
Since you’re a clear Carpenter fan, can we get a “Prince of Darkness” Ending Explained?
I’ve seen it more times than I can count, but you do a really good job summarizing movies!
CAN YOU PLEASE COVER “THE CELL” (2000 with Jennifer Lopez)?? That movie is so hard to understand
Weird completely off topic take on this video: your hair has been on quite the journey on this channel but this new style really suits you. Thanks for your dedication to film you REALLY help to make things make sense!
I love the re:view of this on RLM so it's awesome to see more content about this movie being made by more people I watch!
Fun fact: the church they filmed at actually was never finished and doesn't even have windows. It's in Richmond Hill, Ontario if you're curious. Tho it still is big and impressive in person.
I can’t believe I haven’t watched this movie! Going to have to watch it this weekend! Thank you 🙏🏽
Seriously tho me too
In HPL's "Pickman's Model", Richard Upton Pickman is an infamous artist who goes missing. His paintings are hyper-realistic depictions of otherworldly creepy and grotesque creatures that he claimed he painted entirely from life. It's pretty apt that the Pickman hotel has a cursed looking painting in the lobby.
How have I never seen, or even heard of, this?! It's on my must watch list for the week.
I was super happy to see this pop up in my notifications, this has been a favourite of mine since high school especially with Sam Neill being a fellow Aussie and I would only want to see you cover this movie as well ❤️
I always love the ending. Find it hilarious and wind up laughing. Also Sam Neil punching out the editor is quite funny.
I know it's a horror movie but it always gives me a chuckle here and there. Great movie.
I’m so happy you did this movie. It’s one of my all time favorites and it’s extremely underrated. The number of fans in the world probably increased tenfold when you consider the size of your audience and the fact that most of us could actually understand the movie because of this vid
Oh yeah Big Trouble in Little China has a very special place in my DVD collection. The Chinese girl with green eyes and of course the Porkchop Express.
@Brique Zallivam yep but on the video he mentioned Big Trouble in Little China. You know being made by John Carpenter and all.
My dad put this movie on when I was either 9 or 10 years old and quite frankly, I had no idea what the hell was going on but I knew that I thoroughly enjoyed it. It kind of kickstarted my enjoyment of John Carpenter’s media ventures. I’d also like to add, I love ghosts of Mars.
This is one of the best Eldritch horror films ever.
I would love to see you do an ending explained for the film “Society”. Your channel has opened my world to dark and disturbingly beautiful films and I would really enjoy hearing your take on that movie. Keep up the great work!
A bloody damn good lovecraftian movie that gets the concept right!
No, YOU deserve more attention and praise, Chris!!! This is one genuinely terrifying 90s movie and we didn’t get enough of those. Thank you.
What I find most intriguing about this film is the setwork. That church is real. It's just outside of Toronto, and if you look it up, it has a really odd backstory.
*TOTALLY UNDERREPRESENTED!* One of the best films ever!! And when I didn't think it couldn't get any better, I discovered HP Lovecraft..that put an ENTIRE NEW SPIN on this! I'm super glad they went with the ending they did..the alternate ending would have been VERY disappointing! 😳
Thanks for the "They Live" reference, I always liked the message of that film.
Been meaning to see this film, and then find out Vigo is in it?! Definitely, a must-watch now.
Sunday night prep for the week work really is a pleasure because of you!!
YEEESSS OMG U CANT BELIEVE YOU DID THIS MOVIE AAH ITS SO GOOD AAAHHHH
Oh yeah I remember watching this back in the day, very lovecraftian.
Seriously. I didn't think someone was capable of nailing this movie, thank you. Truly excellent job.
Nice to see New Hampshire be the area of a lot of Lovecraftian goodness and not just Massachusetts 😛
It's also next to Maine too....
I think that placing it in Massachussetts would have been a little too on-the-nose for their Cain / King reference.
Thanks for showing this movie some love! This is a favorite of mine and I feel like no one ever talks about it or remembers it
Dude, I love this movie! So glad you're covering it
The story really gives me Robert Chambers vibes. He was an inspiration to Lovecraft himself. His set of stories about people going mad from seeing the play "The King in Yellow" seems to be very similar to the madness caused in this movie.
This movie just proves how genius and ahead of his time Lovecraft really was. He literally invented "cosmic horror", and this movie is one of the best examples of it.
He took lots of ideas or inspiration from middle east myths and lores
@Aleister Crowley The Great Beast is there a doubt about that?
I remember watching this flick some 20+ years ago as a child. I was depressed from the confusion.
This explainer gave me great closure.
Every morning when I wake up in this new normal of ours: "This is reality!" Proceeds to laugh/sob
you aren't alone. we will get through this eventually, but it's good to feel your feelings. cry it out, laugh hysterically- it all helps. crying gets the stress hormone cortisol out from your body, & the amount of cortisol we have been experiencing literally ages & damages the body to have sit around. experiencing & processing these emotions helps regulate our bodies physical health, too.
This is not reality, not reality, not reality!
@@MossTunic There's nothing to 'get through'. We are NEVER going back to normal. Our governments won't allow it. Covid gave them everything they've ever wanted.
@@nithshithhith4398 [Citation Needed]
@@nithshithhith4398 yeah for sure. 👍🏾
When I was in high school, and friend of mine and I were bored out of our minds. We drove to Best Buy and sat in the movie aisle to look at all the movies. An employee came by and started recommending a few movies to us. This was his top pick. We went home and watched this and “I know who killed me” with Lindsay Lohan. What a wild ride.
One of my favorites. It's basically John Carpenter's love letter to H.P. Lovecraft. What more could a horror fan ask for?
Sam Neill is the scream king of horror movies - with the Dr. Weir scream from Event Horizon being the most brilliant - and most hilarious.
Ghosts of Mars is possibly my favorite thing created out of pure spite.
have to say ive been watching your channel for a few years now and have to say i'm also a huge john carpenter fans...this one being my favorite. i'm so glad you covered this one the apocalypse trilogy is soooooo good. the idea of being inside the book and the lovecraftian creatures definitely make this one amazing movie. thanks for all you do. keep it up
"I'm sorry about the balls... It was a lucky shot, that's all!"
Also absolutely agree. "The Thing", "ItMoM", "They Live", "Escape from NY" and "Big Trouble" are in my top ten for sure!
Did you see the prince of darkness?
I was not expecting this classic to be on your channel. I'm a huge Lovecraft fan and this is in my top 3 movies of all time. Love the channel.
This was one of the few movies that actually showed me the road to Lovecraftian Horror and i have stuck to that path since. I true classic from the Master.
the 90s had some of the best horror movies , i really loved this when i saw it, i was 14 back then, really left an impact with me, especially the scene when he looked down the abyss, it stuck with me until now.
We need more cosmic horror in modern media. I really hope for a "mountain of madness" modern adaptation someday
@Brique Zallivam would it though? I mean much of lovecrafts work is way less cryptic than people remember. Mountain of Madness especially had a huge segment of discribing the appearance and history of its "antagonist". I think with decent production design it could be a great watch, i hope for puppets/props though. CGI horror monsters were always a visual letdown for me
this is one of my favorite horror films of all time. really captures the lovecraft feel better than most films do.
Not gonna lie, this movie STILL gives me the creeps.
@Brique Zallivam Chill.