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yoo, can you help us? we bought the exact same switcher, but it takes like 1 or 2 seconds to switch between cameras, is there any additional settings? how did you do it bro?
I actually ended up getting one now lol. During the time I uploaded this video, saving money was important. But now that I have one, the capture card quality alone was worth it. Will do a review soon.
Yeah they do a better job dealing with frame rates and encoding. Th at Switcher is literally for the home user to jump between the football game and the ps5. The ATEM is hassle free transitioning with Picture in Picture with better audio pres.
I had the same idea about using A HDMI switcher and searched and found your video. Thank you for sharing your findings. Not sure about the glitchy cuts but maybe in a zoom it’s ok.
I just bought the exact same switcher to do multi-cam livestreams. Thanks for the video for showing me some proof of concept. I haven’t set mine up yet but now I know it will work once I get all my cameras set up. I also went budget with my HDMI capture card and it works great for a stream at 1080. I might upgrade in the future if I start recording my stream but for now this is a great low-budget solution for creating a great looking stream.
Come on be honest and add to or change your comment here. I right away went to your channel to see what kind of videos you could make with a cheap switcher and the first video I watched was done with an Atem mini. So I guess the cheap switcher was not that good after all right? What about all the people watching this video here and get mislead to buying the wron thing. A waist of money.
@@computerjantje I didn't use it on my woodworking livestream I used it for my gaming setup on Twitch. And I also said that it was a great proof of concept for an inexpensive switcher to get started with, which it was. I also said I would probably upgrade in the future, which I did. Did you buy the switcher and not get decent results with it? It isn't perfect and no, it's not professional grade, but when you have a low starting budget something like this is a good solution until better equipment can be had. But thanks for checking out my livestreams on TH-cam.
@@JeffRevell I bought not one, but several cheap switchers and they all have in common that, although they say so, they cannot switch really seamless. at least 1 in 3 times there is some kind of glitch. The best cheap switchers cheat the switching by freezing the old image while switching. This means you only have a seamless switch when there is absolutely no action in the feed you are switching away from.
That’s funny cause I got that HDMI switch in my Amazon cart for other uses because of the remote control and it was 30 bucks and I already own a ATEM Mini Pro ISO. Crazy. Good job.
I use one of these with my ATEM Mini. I plug it into one of the HDMI ports on the ATEM and plug a laptop, Chromecast and Apple TV into the HDMI switch.
The only cheap option to have something like that is buying multiple cheap HDMI capture cards, attach them to a computer and have OBS to switch them on Multiview mode. It's arguably better than this setup because you can have proper transitions between cameras or clear cuts
@@ahumeniy That's one great way to do that. But it requires a powerful computer. A true video switcher is still probably the best way in companion to OBS.
Hi how come you don’t get any issues streaming music while djing? The very first stream I did to TH-cam I got a strike warning off the first song I played so i haven’t djd online.
You saved $200 but that makes the difference between let your livestream look professional or just on a low amateur level. OK, when you are happy with this - it's fine. But for just $200 more you get the opportunity to do smooth fade-transition, flicker-free cuts, lower-thirds/still overlays, picture-in-picture, green screen and so much more.
@samuel c.t. chan Normal people just use their mobile phone or a DSLR to stream. In any case you need to have more than one camera, a dedicated video mixer is mandatory. A HDMI Switcher is unprofessionell like cutting bread with a pair of scissors. It might work somehow but it‘s definetively the wrong tool.
HDMI switcher can also create many problems. Some cameras will just turn off a video feed. Also, if you connect a coputer and switch a source, it will turn off dual display, and need some time to turn it back on. Atem switcher has a lots of features that are important, and you aren't using atem just for camera switching purposes. To explain this in DJ terms: you can use an audio switcher to cut between songs, but you can't do any real professional mixing with it.
Wow this helps!! Was about to purchase Atem mini!! So we need a capture card to connect the switch and a laptop? Or can we connect the switch directly to laptop?
As,you said, you don’t need all the features of the ATEM, but it is not actually cheaper, because you have to buy a capturecard. If you alreay have it, congrats, than you can do it like that...
Glad that works for you , but Apples & Oranges. Have you ever used an ATEM MINI? Especially the Mini Pro ISO ? Use one then TRY to go back to your $30 switcher, bet you can’t. Haha. :). Good luck with it all. Looks like fun no matter what you use ! Enjoy
Get my new OBS Studios Interface, it will make a huge difference when streaming. Also, stop by at my live streams and I will show you how to get great switch between cameras using some technics I know using what you got. Enjoy it!
Ok, I am not doing live streaming. I am recording a band rehearsal or performance using three cameras. I understand the purpose of the HDMI switch which will allow me to connect all 3 cameras to one source. Now, will all 3 signals go to different files on the capture card? Will the end result be sync so I can just mix them into one video using sound from only one source?
I’m new to the production scene. I was wondering if this could be used only for monitoring and not recording. I want a multicam setup, but it will not be used for livestreaming; I just want to see what I’m doing with using only one camera monitor while recording.
Thank you for the video. I have a similar setup to your setup. please advise on how you keep the audio source the same when switching using the switch. I would appreciate. i am having trouble with this
so in 2023 what would you say about this setup im after a cam switcher now but like you just for dj sets the atem is cheaper now though but i wonder if you'd say go with the atem now or not
I ended up getting the atem and I love it. But during the time this video was released, many people, especially DJs, were out of a job. So if money is tight, this alternative could be a suitable option.
@@priyonjoni yeah this was great help and info its the distortion that was putting me off im not into cams streaming gear ect but your vid is stil some i trust seeing you acutally dj so thanks alot
Wish I could give this video two likes... I recently had a "discussion" (more like an argument) with a salesperson in a reputable video store who was adamant that the ONLY way to use multiple cameras, and not use multiple capture cards, is to buy the nearly $500 (AUD) ATEM Mini. My question to him was "What if I use a simple $50 HDMI switcher?. Won't that work?" His answer to me was "it doesn't work like that mate"... and tried his best to convince me that I needed to part with $500. Wish I could show him this video... but then again, he probably doesn't care.
I'm thinking about getting rid of my Atem mini pro because my camcorders have USB connections. I tried converting but was told it needs a HDMI feeds. Will this switcher work with my camcorders?
Hi there- thank you for sharing! I am looking to use 2-3 cameras and also be able to switch between a screen share. Do you know how I could do this with this method?
Has somebody made this? I have bought all the same items than in the video, but when I try to switch cameras I get the color bars for some seconds, after it I get the camera signal. How could I get rid of those color bars? I have tried with PC and Mac.
Are you sure this works with different capture cards? I tried this method before with other basic hdmi switchers, but it would glitch out my capture card.
very cool, i have a question. I do a DJ all Vinyl night and feature DJ's from my area that have sick vinyl collections. I've been streaming on twitch and its been good and all, but the VOD's get muted really bad and its kinda disheartening after buying and setting up all the gear that I can't allow local DJ's that have been doing this for years to spin their set! Anything I can do aside from asking them to totally compromise their artistic integrity, or actually paying for the copyright?
Thanks a lot. this is exactly what I was looking for today. Your microphone, your sound is lacking some richness. You are very understandable everything is clear but it just is lacking a little bass and a whole lot of mid. It is the tiniest bit down a tunnel, no Echo but still the tiniest bit hollow, short, empty it's missing something achievable sound wise. It is good but.
Thank you!!! This is exactly what 8 was looking for. I pour pure Silver & Gold live on my channel and it would be nice to have cameras over areas at certain times. Thank you. ♠️AceBullion ®️♠️
Hey, nice video! I've got a question.. I'm running 2 cameras in the front of our church sanctuary to the sound booth in the back. The hdmi cables are over 100ft long. Will this switcher work for that setup? I'm having trouble getting the feed to go through when using a switcher. They work going straight into the computer but with the switcher i have, it loses the video feed.
@@tranxoscar5947 I'm just using some i found on ebay and Amazon that are 100ft. One of them is connected to a 25ft cable with a repeater to reach the computer.
@@jeremytomson8125 I have heard good things about Fiber Optic HDMI Cables. They are designed to go further distances than the normal copper HDMI cables.
@@faithhouse6111 none of our equipment has sdi inputs. We would have to have a converter from the camera to sdi and then at the end of the sdi cable to the computer. Would that be too many connections???
44K views on a total crap video. Where is the world is going to? Besides the terrible unneeded shaky footage you are comparing apples with peers. You say it yourself. "It is not total seamless". Well that is why you pay the extra. I tried all kinds of cheap switchers. NONE does seamless switching. A seamless switch is the absolute basics you need in a multi camera setup. if you do not want to edit afterwards. But if you do want to edit afterwards then you do not need a switcher at all. You can feed the software all recordings. So a cheap switcher is really never on its place. Well maybe for home security. The Atem mini still is the cheapest switcher that does the job as it should and you'll get soft transitions as a gift to it. To prevent someone wanting to buy a Atem mini pro within a month after buying the standard mini, I would recommend to study carefully the differences between the mini and the mini pro. Especially the multiview and the built in stream service makes the extra money for the pro worth every penny.
nice video, dumb comparison, its really dumb to compare switcher for 30 with switcher for 600 :)))) and how much was your laptop? its the same as u would say - motorbikes are expensive and it needs petrol, get a bike and u can do the same for a fraction of price. this is how your comparison looks like :)
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Thank you I've been looking for exactly something like this and didn't want to drop $300 on the black magic right now
yoo, can you help us? we bought the exact same switcher, but it takes like 1 or 2 seconds to switch between cameras, is there any additional settings? how did you do it bro?
Thank you for the info! it's very usefull
@@estadoetilico9516 did you find out??
Hi do you have link for the Motion graphics??
Video starts at 5:38
You're the man! Lol. Good looks
Thanks
thanks
wITH an Atem. u don't need a capture card. It is your capture card.
I am very happy with my ATEM Mini Pro and its work excellent! The best stream setup I bought for my video capturing.
I actually ended up getting one now lol. During the time I uploaded this video, saving money was important. But now that I have one, the capture card quality alone was worth it. Will do a review soon.
Yeah they do a better job dealing with frame rates and encoding. Th at Switcher is literally for the home user to jump between the football game and the ps5. The ATEM is hassle free transitioning with Picture in Picture with better audio pres.
I had the same idea about using A HDMI switcher and searched and found your video. Thank you for sharing your findings. Not sure about the glitchy cuts but maybe in a zoom it’s ok.
you need to add the cost of the capture card to the cheap hdmi switcher for a proper comparison.
Okay, thank you. Would like to see you go into the signal level setup - how do you get a clean feed from that capture card, mainly. .😁
Another cool mix deconstruction.... Simple and effective.... Plus very fun finding tracks to involve
Thank you for saving me from wasting money.
I just bought the exact same switcher to do multi-cam livestreams. Thanks for the video for showing me some proof of concept. I haven’t set mine up yet but now I know it will work once I get all my cameras set up. I also went budget with my HDMI capture card and it works great for a stream at 1080. I might upgrade in the future if I start recording my stream but for now this is a great low-budget solution for creating a great looking stream.
Come on be honest and add to or change your comment here. I right away went to your channel to see what kind of videos you could make with a cheap switcher and the first video I watched was done with an Atem mini. So I guess the cheap switcher was not that good after all right? What about all the people watching this video here and get mislead to buying the wron thing. A waist of money.
@@computerjantje I didn't use it on my woodworking livestream I used it for my gaming setup on Twitch. And I also said that it was a great proof of concept for an inexpensive switcher to get started with, which it was. I also said I would probably upgrade in the future, which I did. Did you buy the switcher and not get decent results with it? It isn't perfect and no, it's not professional grade, but when you have a low starting budget something like this is a good solution until better equipment can be had. But thanks for checking out my livestreams on TH-cam.
@@JeffRevell I bought not one, but several cheap switchers and they all have in common that, although they say so, they cannot switch really seamless. at least 1 in 3 times there is some kind of glitch. The best cheap switchers cheat the switching by freezing the old image while switching. This means you only have a seamless switch when there is absolutely no action in the feed you are switching away from.
That’s funny cause I got that HDMI switch in my Amazon cart for other uses because of the remote control and it was 30 bucks and I already own a ATEM Mini Pro ISO. Crazy. Good job.
I use one of these with my ATEM Mini. I plug it into one of the HDMI ports on the ATEM and plug a laptop, Chromecast and Apple TV into the HDMI switch.
You just saved me money. I have one of these which I am using to switch to different devices. Thanks for that.
pretty cool, will have it for backup..expecially the Picture In Picture.
Broooooo, you saved my wallet also! Much love to you for sharing!
What about the option of having a preview screen for each input before you switch?
The only cheap option to have something like that is buying multiple cheap HDMI capture cards, attach them to a computer and have OBS to switch them on Multiview mode. It's arguably better than this setup because you can have proper transitions between cameras or clear cuts
@@ahumeniy That's one great way to do that. But it requires a powerful computer. A true video switcher is still probably the best way in companion to OBS.
Thank you bro use full video ❤️❤️
But you cannot record all inputs seperately, correct?
Nice setup love the CDJ's
Hi how come you don’t get any issues streaming music while djing? The very first stream I did to TH-cam I got a strike warning off the first song I played so i haven’t djd online.
You saved $200 but that makes the difference between let your livestream look professional or just on a low amateur level. OK, when you are happy with this - it's fine.
But for just $200 more you get the opportunity to do smooth fade-transition, flicker-free cuts, lower-thirds/still overlays, picture-in-picture, green screen and so much more.
You cant do any professional work with this. Lot of things to test. Audio especially is the main thing.
@samuel c.t. chan Normal people just use their mobile phone or a DSLR to stream. In any case you need to have more than one camera, a dedicated video mixer is mandatory. A HDMI Switcher is unprofessionell like cutting bread with a pair of scissors. It might work somehow but it‘s definetively the wrong tool.
HDMI switcher can also create many problems. Some cameras will just turn off a video feed. Also, if you connect a coputer and switch a source, it will turn off dual display, and need some time to turn it back on.
Atem switcher has a lots of features that are important, and you aren't using atem just for camera switching purposes.
To explain this in DJ terms: you can use an audio switcher to cut between songs, but you can't do any real professional mixing with it.
Nice! What i was wondering.. Are all cameras in sync?
Wow this helps!! Was about to purchase Atem mini!! So we need a capture card to connect the switch and a laptop? Or can we connect the switch directly to laptop?
great concept using the hdmi switcher. Thanks
As,you said, you don’t need all the features of the ATEM, but it is not actually cheaper, because you have to buy a capturecard. If you alreay have it, congrats, than you can do it like that...
Glad that works for you , but Apples & Oranges. Have you ever used an ATEM MINI? Especially the Mini Pro ISO ? Use one then TRY to go back to your $30 switcher, bet you can’t. Haha. :). Good luck with it all. Looks like fun no matter what you use ! Enjoy
Thanks for the pro tip
Get my new OBS Studios Interface, it will make a huge difference when streaming. Also, stop by at my live streams and I will show you how to get great switch between cameras using some technics I know using what you got. Enjoy it!
Very usefull - I just buyed a rgblink mini + - but your solution can expand this and then you can do fades also...
Im here for cameras switching brotha
I bought the three hdmi version, my problem is that it is very slow when changing from one camera to another
Man dope video! Quick question: why do you need the video card capture? can´t just connect the switcher straight to your computer?
nope 🤓
Ok, I am not doing live streaming. I am recording a band rehearsal or performance using three cameras. I understand the purpose of the HDMI switch which will allow me to connect all 3 cameras to one source. Now, will all 3 signals go to different files on the capture card? Will the end result be sync so I can just mix them into one video using sound from only one source?
Are you able to at least see a preview before it goes LIVE? Or it just goes straight to live when You switch?
You have preview on OBS, but if you want a switch prev only need a HDMI splitter on the output
What dslr camera are you using, I have a cannon, and the HDMI out displays a small boxed screen
Is there a way to do it with Just
USB WebCam's
I've been trying to find a USB switch your cousins only use an inexpensive WebCams
Where do we get the height adjustable table with wheels?
I’m new to the production scene. I was wondering if this could be used only for monitoring and not recording. I want a multicam setup, but it will not be used for livestreaming; I just want to see what I’m doing with using only one camera monitor while recording.
So this allows u to do multi view? That’s what’s happening around 7:27 right?
Amazing tech and. Setup
How much is a decent capture card.
Thank you for the video. I have a similar setup to your setup. please advise on how you keep the audio source the same when switching using the switch. I would appreciate. i am having trouble with this
Cant believe you have spent dozen on equipment but went cheap on a switcher
So if you use the HDMI switcher how do you put your sound from your soundboard into the live stream do you use OBS for that
Use a USB mixer
so in 2023 what would you say about this setup im after a cam switcher now but like you just for dj sets the atem is cheaper now though but i wonder if you'd say go with the atem now or not
I ended up getting the atem and I love it. But during the time this video was released, many people, especially DJs, were out of a job. So if money is tight, this alternative could be a suitable option.
@@priyonjoni yeah this was great help and info its the distortion that was putting me off im not into cams streaming gear ect but your vid is stil some i trust seeing you acutally dj so thanks alot
Wish I could give this video two likes... I recently had a "discussion" (more like an argument) with a salesperson in a reputable video store who was adamant that the ONLY way to use multiple cameras, and not use multiple capture cards, is to buy the nearly $500 (AUD) ATEM Mini. My question to him was "What if I use a simple $50 HDMI switcher?. Won't that work?" His answer to me was "it doesn't work like that mate"... and tried his best to convince me that I needed to part with $500. Wish I could show him this video... but then again, he probably doesn't care.
I'm thinking about getting rid of my Atem mini pro because my camcorders have USB connections. I tried converting but was told it needs a HDMI feeds. Will this switcher work with my camcorders?
How do you get the audio into your stream
Hi there- thank you for sharing! I am looking to use 2-3 cameras and also be able to switch between a screen share. Do you know how I could do this with this method?
Hello i need to know what port did you use going to capture card. Is it output or input
The output.
Has somebody made this? I have bought all the same items than in the video, but when I try to switch cameras I get the color bars for some seconds, after it I get the camera signal. How could I get rid of those color bars? I have tried with PC and Mac.
is there a way to simulate transitions such as fades, wipes etc. with this?
I was going to do this, but I need a more seamless switch.
Loved the content, the camera is very shaky, makes it hard to see what you are trying to show.
How did u use it to livestream?
What are the prices of your cameras??
What if all my cameras have usb cords attached? How to I convert those to hdmi to plug into switcher?
What’s the receiver connected to the HDMI switcher?
What receiver?
The BasiColor Gaming USB3.0 Video Capture Card. Not available on Amazon 😅
$30 but the cut between cameras is I'm sorry but disgusting...
Could you use this switcher with iOS only?… iPad Pro 2020 as the control deck, and 4 iPhones as the cameras?
please how can i get the video hdmi switcher you bought for $30 ? am from nigeria ...
Good info Sir! So do I still need an HDMI capture card or does this device act as the capture card for all four cameras?
It is an HDMI Switcher. Not a Capture Card! (Please see in Pri's setup) 🤓
canon dslr???
Hi, so how does PIP work, does the PIP windows also appear on your live stream when you turn it on through OBS?
do all the cameras connected to the switcher need sd cards? or can it run off the computers storage
They don’t need the sd cards to run hdmi but some cameras may display a “no sd card” icon
@@priyonjoni thank uuuu
How do you do the set up and how does the audio input work with mics and music
You talked about motion graphics..what's the link?
How about audio sir.. Is it the switcher can catch the audio?
Can you switch the camera what section you want? Or it work work only slide?
hello some links for ajustable table.or maybe a detailed video on it.
Can you use all the same cameras? Like 4 gopros?
Any link for the height adjustable table
what type of height adjustable table with wheels is that?
Are you sure this works with different capture cards? I tried this method before with other basic hdmi switchers, but it would glitch out my capture card.
Works on mine with 4 capture cards
But this doesn’t allow you to select what camera you’re switching to it just goest in a circle. Good option but that’s the con for me.
For Cam1 Press "1"
For Cam3 Press "3"
EZ PZ 🤓
Hi Good to text with you!
I have a question
How to get clear audio from the mixer to TH-cam application
Very smart!
You forgot to add the cost of the capture card, which a decent hardware switcher has.
$10 on amazon for a 1080p 30 capture card. I did a review on that.
very cool, i have a question. I do a DJ all Vinyl night and feature DJ's from my area that have sick vinyl collections. I've been streaming on twitch and its been good and all, but the VOD's get muted really bad and its kinda disheartening after buying and setting up all the gear that I can't allow local DJ's that have been doing this for years to spin their set! Anything I can do aside from asking them to totally compromise their artistic integrity, or actually paying for the copyright?
Use TH-cam. They usually don't mute. But if you get too many copyright claims, it shuts down and deletes the stream.
@@priyonjoni every song we play will have a copyright of some sort because it is on vinyl...
Seamless switching? Or with some glitches?
Where did you get the video graphics from?
Can one of the input be a laptop instead?
Thanks a lot. this is exactly what I was looking for today.
Your microphone, your sound is lacking some richness. You are very understandable everything is clear but it just is lacking a little bass and a whole lot of mid. It is the tiniest bit down a tunnel, no Echo but still the tiniest bit hollow, short, empty it's missing something achievable sound wise. It is good but.
Which capture card you use
Thank you!!! This is exactly what 8 was looking for. I pour pure Silver & Gold live on my channel and it would be nice to have cameras over areas at certain times. Thank you. ♠️AceBullion ®️♠️
i try to set it up 90 day later still dont wont... dont do it this way guy wont work if you got a usb.
👏
He just shown off ...lol
Great idea though
Do you stream on twitch?
No I don't. I prefer TH-cam for streaming. And once in while, when I properly choose my music (to avoid copyright issues), I use Facebook.
Get straight to the point
Hey, nice video! I've got a question.. I'm running 2 cameras in the front of our church sanctuary to the sound booth in the back. The hdmi cables are over 100ft long. Will this switcher work for that setup? I'm having trouble getting the feed to go through when using a switcher. They work going straight into the computer but with the switcher i have, it loses the video feed.
Hi. What type of HDMI cable are you using to run that long distance?
@@tranxoscar5947 I'm just using some i found on ebay and Amazon that are 100ft. One of them is connected to a 25ft cable with a repeater to reach the computer.
I heard that you don't want to use HDMO cables for more than 50ft... use SDI instead.
@@jeremytomson8125 I have heard good things about Fiber Optic HDMI Cables. They are designed to go further distances than the normal copper HDMI cables.
@@faithhouse6111 none of our equipment has sdi inputs. We would have to have a converter from the camera to sdi and then at the end of the sdi cable to the computer. Would that be too many connections???
I came here to see a HDMI switcher , 4 mins in, it’s a rig rundown. I’m outta here
Read the title next time.
44K views on a total crap video. Where is the world is going to? Besides the terrible unneeded shaky footage you are comparing apples with peers. You say it yourself. "It is not total seamless". Well that is why you pay the extra. I tried all kinds of cheap switchers. NONE does seamless switching. A seamless switch is the absolute basics you need in a multi camera setup. if you do not want to edit afterwards. But if you do want to edit afterwards then you do not need a switcher at all. You can feed the software all recordings. So a cheap switcher is really never on its place. Well maybe for home security. The Atem mini still is the cheapest switcher that does the job as it should and you'll get soft transitions as a gift to it. To prevent someone wanting to buy a Atem mini pro within a month after buying the standard mini, I would recommend to study carefully the differences between the mini and the mini pro. Especially the multiview and the built in stream service makes the extra money for the pro worth every penny.
ThAATS PPrreetTTtyyYYy CCOolloL
How complicated to explain, I got bored!
nice video, dumb comparison, its really dumb to compare switcher for 30 with switcher for 600 :)))) and how much was your laptop?
its the same as u would say - motorbikes are expensive and it needs petrol, get a bike and u can do the same for a fraction of price. this is how your comparison looks like :)
You get what u pay for...lol