Been collecting for past 2 years and when I want a detailed review with everything pretty much covered, this is the channel I come too. Keep up the great work 👍 Peace out
I have this watch with the 5833 movement and it is running within chronometer limits with zero beat error. For the $98 USD that I paid, I'm extremely pleased with it. I bought the new Seiko watch with this NH34 and it was running +25 secs per day with 0.7 ms of beat error so I returned it. The only way I would consider paying more for this PD NH34 version would be if they regulated the movement to a decent accuracy level, added AR coating, BGW9 on the dial markers & hands, and most importantly...made the bezel bidirectional. Why is the latter so difficult? On a GMT watch at this price point, I expect the bezel to be bidirectional. Great review WR4K as always!
Nice review as usual! I received this NH34 version last week. On mine, the lume on the bezel is green and the lume on the dial matches the color of the BGW9 on my San Martins. And, while the lume on the bezel fades pretty quickly, the lume on the dial lasts nearly as long as the lume on my San Martins.
I'm planning to buy one for my father Gmt full gold jubilee one, how it is in terms of reliability, as you guys might have been using it for quite a while now?
I find it interesting that many of the reviews about the lume on newer Paganis are so negative. All I know is when I wake up in the middle of the night right there next to my Citizens and Seikos this Pagani is glowing just as -and dare I say- maybe even more so brightly and is completely readable with dilated eyes in the dark. Pagano has come light years in a very short time and I’m just thrilled with this watch!
I love your reviews, so good and the details. Just what I want to know about the watches. Please keep making more videos like this. Excellent! And I also love Pagani watches. I've had a few now, but only after watching your review first. Thank You so much. Greetings from a fan in Norway :)
Bit disappointed with Pagani not addressing the issues with QC, no AR coating and a wonky bezel at that price, the NH34A is not that more expensive than the 35 but to hype the price from under £100 to £230 Is a massive jump. Can’t understand why they haven’t designed their own GMT watch as other micro brands have designed some crackers Great review as always 👍
Hello, I just recieved my 1662 nh34 yesterday, also batman on a jubilee. Mine came with blue AR coating, does its job compared to my 1661. QC wise, the head of the watch is almost flawless for me, but the bracelet gave me trouble. The extension link was very stiff, and the screw head on that link was stripped and impossible to unscrew(so cant swap out to my glidelock). I am quite satisfied with the watch itself for the $106USD i paid during 11.11, but disappointed that my bracelet was bad. I messaged them and they'll be sending me parts for the bracelet. Really wish they just got their QC in order.
Congratulations George. Wear yours in good health. Interestings yours has blue AR coating. That will be good if they are introducing it to all PD-1662 models. Sorry to hear that regarding your clasp. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k thank you. I also forgot to mention the micro adjust spring bar broke when I was trying to adjust my bracelet, making my bracelet useless. Hopefully they send the correct parts. Also I noticed in your video your 1662 has a blue tint to the crystal especially on the cyclops, i think your example has AR also. Might be just the camera though. I watched your previous pagani batman review and there's a noticeable difference.
I pick up the Pearl DG5833 mvt for only 45euro on offer because it's way cheaper 3 times cheaper than the NH34A and demagnetised it and it's perfect. Furthermore the movement got some color accent to it and it looks good with transparent backcase.
All of my Ali watches I will at first demag it! Then measure the drift away s/d and correct it. They are all perfect calibrated afterwords for this price! The Pearl DG 5833 is a beautiful GMT clockwork! 💪👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😎
nice to see this review, I have the previous version of this watch and it's the first pagani in my collection to cease up. it works for a couple of hours then stops and shake it a bit and wind it works a couple hours and stops. differences with this and previous version is the polishing of the center links is definitely better on this one and the blue on the bezel is brighter and obvioisly better lume. Other than that it's the same and unfortunately this price is going into San Martin territory but not San Martin build quality.
The Pearl movement used in the older versions is complete garbage. I have a PD Explorer 2 homage..the most inconsistent watch I have ever bought. I have regulated it about 5 times..occasionally it runs at -5 seconds per day, the next time I wear it will be +20. Nice looking watch, except for the misaligned cyclops!!! PD often get this wrong. The NH34 would be a far better bet, I'm sure that PD will change to this movement exclusively in their future GMT watches.
For some reason the bezel on the v1 looks a lot closer to a real Rolex batman gmt because of the thicker painted numbers. The bezel numbers on this new one looks a bit skinny.
Pagani Design should improve their QC. I won't mind paying a bit extra for that. So far, the polishing is very nice but little details like lens misalignment, numerals misalignment and the bezel should be improved.
Would you absolutely recommend the NH34A variant above the Pearl variant, despite the HUGE rehaut on the NH34A variant and the mismatch in lume (which makes the NH34A variant, in my opinion, less refined in looks compared to the Pearl variant)?
@@watchreviews4k Thanks for your reply, I purchased the DG5833GMT variant because I really think the rehaut and the lume on the bezel defeats the aesthetic of the watch on the NH34A variant - if it breaks down I’ll probably get the PD1762 with the NH34A and BGW-9 on the dial only I’ve purchased 6 watches in total and your video’s have been extremely helpful in picking the right pieces! Thanks for your work!
In regards to the bezel, honestly i liked the old insert better, just from the looks. The simple white paint was bolder and therefor looked better. The issue on the bezel, that mark, would be a reason for me to send the piece back. Some things you can overlook, I kept pieces with sharp corners on clasp or week lume, things that don’t matter so much or like in the case of sharp corners can remedy yourself. Yeah one could get a new insert and replace the old one but not for 200 bucks. Hopefully they released a PD-1682 with the NH34… I just checked, the sale price will be ~168, for that money, without that mark on the bezel, it’s ok. Thanks for the review of this new piece! On a side note, which range of accuracy for the NH34/35/36 group do you find acceptability?
May I ask you a question, John!? In the same 1662 with NH34, but the Sprite version which is left-handed, how are the functions of the crown (for example the winding)? I mean, if they're just the same as you have shown, or if they're mirrored (for example, winding clockwise now becomes anti-clockwise). I hope I was able to explain myself. I've ordered one and I don't want to ruin the movement. Thank you very much. Regards.
I'm planning to buy one for my father Gmt full gold jubilee one, how it is in terms of reliability, as you guys might have been using it for quite a while now?
@@watchreviews4k I forgot to let you know, John: you were deadly wrong. After I received my 1662 nh34 sprite, I can confirm the crown operates in a mirrored way compared to the timepiece you're presenting in this video. The hand winding is in the opposite direction, so the gmt setting, so the date setting.
I was itching on buying this because it is on sale for $114. Glad I saw your review which made me think twice. What do you guys think? Would it be still a good deal at that price or should I wait until they release a better version? Any recommendations?
I'm planning to buy one for my father Gmt full gold jubilee one, how it is in terms of reliability, as you guys might have been using it for quite a while now?
Hi! Sorry to bother you, but i was wondering what gmt and non gmt diver you would recommend for around 100 dollars. I am willing to spend around 30 or 40 extra for the gmt.
1200 TPD (Turns Per Day) is enough wind a 40 hour power reserve movement, such as the NH35A, or SW200-1. Wearing the watch for 8-12 hours per day is also enough. There isn't a difference in the wear of the movements parts whether the 1200 TPD is done on a winder, or on a wrist; as the winder doesn't rotate non-stop for 1200 turns. It rotates, then pauses, then rotates again. In both cases the lubricant is being worked around the movement which reduces friction, and wear in the moving parts. Leaving a movement for months static does no harm, as when its manually wound, automatically wound, or wound on wrist; the lubricant is worked around the movement. Accelerated wear in movements doesn't come from them being wound too much by winders. It comes from dirty lubricant being worked around the movement, which increases friction, and wear. Therefore regardless of how often, or seldom a movement is wound; it should be serviced every 5 years. Every time a crown is unscrewed it allows air to enter the case which contains dust particles. Also the gears lose metal particles. The dirt from the dust particles, and metal particles contaminate the lubricant and make it dirty, which increases the friction, and wear. Breaking down a movement, ultrasonically cleaning the parts, then building it back up with fresh lubricant every 5 years, reduces the aforementioned wear from dirty lubricant. Similar to changing the oil in a car engine every 10,000 miles, or 12 months, whichever comes sooner. The clean engine oil reduces friction, and wear. Obviously its worth servicing an SW200-1 watch every 5 years at 150 Euro, as the cost of the movement exceeds this. However its not worth servicing an NH35A, as a new movement only costs 30 Euro, which is less than the labour time for a watchmaker to break it down, ultrasonically clean the parts, and build it back up with fresh lubricant. Therefore it makes more sense just to replace the NH35A with a new one when it can not longer be regulated within its stated -20 to +40 seconds per day. Both winders and wearing watches are OK. Winders don't accelerate wear more than wearing the watch for 8-12 hours per day. Providing the movement is serviced every 5 years, the wear will be the same in both cases. It doesn't matter if a watch is worn daily, once a week, once a month, once a year, etc. If the lubricant is clean, it will reduce friction, and wear, when the movement is wound again in all cases. Some movements only need to be serviced every 10 years. This because they use a high performance lubricant. For example Rolex developed a new high performance lubricant for the Caliber 3235. The 3135 had a 5 year service interval, versus the 10 year service interval of the 3235. Its like the difference between using mineral engine oil, versus using fully synthetic engine oil. The mineral engine oil will need to be changed every 10,000 miles, but the fully synthetic engine oil can be run for 20,000 miles. However I still think changing the lubricant every 5 years is better than every 10 years. Regards, #WR4K
Hi there! I am planning to buy one but on an oyster bracelet and since I've bought before a PD-1644 with a jubilee bracelet I wonder if they are compatible/interchangeable with each other since they are similar in case shape and both pagani bracelet. Can you confirm it if possible? Because I do like more of a jubilee bracelet, more comfortable, and if they are indeed compatible with each other I would buy the GMT with the oyster one! Thanks in advance! Cheers!
I have the Pepsi version of this with the nh34 movement but it came with a painted aluminum bezel. Does anyone know which variants of the pahani design's GMT watches come with a ceramic bezel?
@@watchreviews4k appreciate the concise answer. Seems pagani design seems to be having the same problem recreating the Pepsi bezel in the ceramic bezel that Rolex did.
Looking through the exhibition case back at the rotor. For reference see my PD-1662 Sprite review below. Regards, #WR4K th-cam.com/video/SJZ0_Xn_KyU/w-d-xo.html
230 euro?? I bought mine from the official Pagani store and it was $84 - should be arriving in the next day or so. It finally arrived into the UK from China.
Yes Bob, 230 Euro is the current price. As stated in the video the 11.11 sale price was 170 Euro. At 84 USD you have probably ordered the previous Pearl DG5833 GMT version. See link below, the current DG5833 GMT version price on the Official Store is 102 Euro after discount coupons. 102 Euro is 104 USD. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004497628916.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.0.0.2e8ada33WxoMf7 The Official Store has never sold the NH34A version for 84 USD. Regards, #WR4K
Excelente revisado, acabo de comprar uno igual con la maquinaria Pearl DG5833GMT. ¿Sabes si es una buena maquinaria o puedo esperar problemas? Gracias.
The Pearl DG5833 GMT is an unreliable movement. It is the luck of the draw if one gets a good or bad one from the factory. They can be reasonably accurate, or very inaccurate, gaining or losing a lot of time. The NH34A is a higher quality movements, more reliable, and more accurate. Regards, #WR4K
Gracias!!! Espero ser el agraciado que reciba un buen DG5833GMT. El control de calidad de estos fabricantes chinos hace que como bien dices sea la suerte la que decida. Saludos desde España.
I have an homage watch with a very well regulated movement, Miyota or Seiko. However, it does not self wind-up, since the beginning. How can I solve the issue ? Rotor issue I suppose.
how many extra clips in brecelet ? i have a pagani design day date 36 mm model and in this model i removed all extra clips but the watch didn't fit properly
@@watchreviews4k both side 6-6? if both side i can remove 6-6 clips so i would to purchase this batman PD 1662 batman with PEAL DG5833GMT please tell me
I bought the oyster style bracelet and it is NOT good. Poor clasp execution (I couldn't even open it) and poor tolerances on the link pins. My cyclops is not aligned correctly and the clarity is poor. The bezel, however, on my watch, is well executed and I don't seem to have the QC issues identified in the review. The usual gripe about lume will be the same for all the 1662 models. I would have preferred a SS caseback. For the £125 GBP I paid in the 11/11 sale I am happy with the value and compared to the £350 - £400 currently being charged by Seiko I think it stacks up pretty well... I intend to mod the watch and am considering the following. 1) BGW 9 hand set £10 1a) BGW 9 GMT hand £4 2) BGW 9 dial £20 - £50 3) Custom rotor £15 4) Lower profile crown (if tolerances allow) £10 5) Jubilee style bracelet from PD £18 6) Cyclops delete £0 I may also experiment with thin-film AR coating technology. Just found a company that supplies a 100mm x 100m sample for £6. Should be enough for 4 attempts 🙈... Even after those upgrades it's still a Seiko NH34 powered GMT for under £200... even the micro brands using the movement can't get close. Thanks for all the great reviews, keep up the good work 👏
Best of price! Any questions? Please don't buy any more, the'll get so more expensive then! Wait for special offer! And the rotor is much to loud! 😢😢😢🤘🤘🤘😎
Sir...did you change the movement to an NH34a or is Pagani making this offering? I'm wondering if I can upgrade to the NH24a with my Batman which I just received less than a week ago. The Pearl was +35 and only seemed to get worse over time. The hack feature broke on day 2 and when I opened the case to move the regulator, I saw oily fingerprints all over the movement and dirt, hair and debris inside the case. The O ring was out of its channel and was crushed and broken. I have some repairs to do but I want to put a decent movement in the watch first and foremost. Clearly I got one of the turds. It appears Pagani has monkeys assembling their watches in a dust storm. To add to it all, the clasp was stuck shut when I received it too. Definite QC issues. I like Pagani products but will never buy another one with the 5833 movement.
I just received a Steeldive watch (abalone) with a crazy NH36 movement. +6 HOURS per day on the first day, +2 HOURS on the second day. Do you things it will settle down? The case is so damped that my phone cannot hear the movement with the Watch accuracy app. First time it happens to me. Pretty disappointing. I also got their Certina DS 3 homage which is fantastic and very well regulated.
Sorry to hear that Steve. It could be magnetised. I suggest you purchase a demagnetiser (see link below); and see if that works. If not it will need to be regulated using a timegrapher. Regards, #WR4K www.amazon.co.uk/Demagnetizer-Professional-Degaussing-Magnetizer-Mechanical-Watch/dp/B0B24PVQ4Y/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=23ND7TDZ8XGLZ&keywords=watch+demagnetizer&qid=1669319723&sprefix=watch+demag%2Caps%2C129&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1
The bezel should be tight and bidirectional on any GMT. Not good. The rest of the watch is fine. As for the regulation, if you have a timegrapher, you can regulate any Seiko movement to +- 0-1spd easily.
I have the same in a pepsi version. It seems that Pagani is not very consistent when it comes to build quality. The engraving on mine, which I recently received, is appalling. It's not very precise, it's thick, it sucks... While everything else is of excellent quality, this bezel finish ruins everything :( I sold this watch the day after I received it and bought the same one from Steeldive. The extra 30 euros is worth it in my opinion...
Die Uhr ist wunderschön ich Persönlich würde die mit dem China Uhrwerk vorziehen, das Seiko Uhrwerk hackt in der GMT Einstellung habe mir von Seiko Uhrwerk mehr versprochen
Since owning Sugess watches, I no longer like Pagani. Pagani watches often have sharp corners and edges. Pagani's bracelets often rattle and feel flimsy.
I have had 2 of these and both had a misaligned GMT hand, about 20 minutes fast. I would avoid these at all cost. The watch itself seemed to be well regulated.
@@watchreviews4k The watch itself was well regulated but if you aligned the hour and minute hand at 12 then the GMT hand would be 20 minutes ahead and the was no way to align all 3 hands at 12.
Just got one and it's wildly inaccurate. It picks up 5 minutes every hour LOL. I've bought a million watches over the years and I don't think I ever got one that didn't keep good time. I may keep it though, it makes me laugh it's so bad. :)
I'm reading alot of these comments & people this is not a prestigious time piece of a watch but your bog standard really good made to look high end top tier watch so what exactly are you all looking for in a cheap replica model watch 🤔 £100 pounds vs £10k do the maths & except for what your paying for ffs....!!!
Pagani Design PD-1662 NH34A Version:
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004885456256.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.21ef1802oM0swL
Been collecting for past 2 years and when I want a detailed review with everything pretty much covered, this is the channel I come too.
Keep up the great work 👍
Peace out
Just bought one. Incredible value. A lovely piece. Very happy.
Just got this exact model. This is my second Pagani Design watch and I love it.
I have this watch with the 5833 movement and it is running within chronometer limits with zero beat error. For the $98 USD that I paid, I'm extremely pleased with it. I bought the new Seiko watch with this NH34 and it was running +25 secs per day with 0.7 ms of beat error so I returned it. The only way I would consider paying more for this PD NH34 version would be if they regulated the movement to a decent accuracy level, added AR coating, BGW9 on the dial markers & hands, and most importantly...made the bezel bidirectional. Why is the latter so difficult? On a GMT watch at this price point, I expect the bezel to be bidirectional. Great review WR4K as always!
Nice review as usual!
I received this NH34 version last week. On mine, the lume on the bezel is green and the lume on the dial matches the color of the BGW9 on my San Martins.
And, while the lume on the bezel fades pretty quickly, the lume on the dial lasts nearly as long as the lume on my San Martins.
Are you happy with the movement so far?
Would you recommend it to me?
I'm planning to buy one for my father Gmt full gold jubilee one, how it is in terms of reliability, as you guys might have been using it for quite a while now?
I find it interesting that many of the reviews about the lume on newer Paganis are so negative.
All I know is when I wake up in the middle of the night right there next to my Citizens and Seikos this Pagani is glowing just as -and dare I say- maybe even more so brightly and is completely readable with dilated eyes in the dark. Pagano has come light years in a very short time and I’m just thrilled with this watch!
I love your reviews, so good and the details. Just what I want to know about the watches. Please keep making more videos like this. Excellent!
And I also love Pagani watches. I've had a few now, but only after watching your review first. Thank You so much. Greetings from a fan in Norway :)
Bit disappointed with Pagani not addressing the issues with QC, no AR coating and a wonky bezel at that price, the NH34A is not that more expensive than the 35 but to hype the price from under £100 to £230 Is a massive jump.
Can’t understand why they haven’t designed their own GMT watch as other micro brands have designed some crackers
Great review as always 👍
Hello, I just recieved my 1662 nh34 yesterday, also batman on a jubilee. Mine came with blue AR coating, does its job compared to my 1661. QC wise, the head of the watch is almost flawless for me, but the bracelet gave me trouble. The extension link was very stiff, and the screw head on that link was stripped and impossible to unscrew(so cant swap out to my glidelock). I am quite satisfied with the watch itself for the $106USD i paid during 11.11, but disappointed that my bracelet was bad. I messaged them and they'll be sending me parts for the bracelet. Really wish they just got their QC in order.
Congratulations George. Wear yours in good health. Interestings yours has blue AR coating. That will be good if they are introducing it to all PD-1662 models. Sorry to hear that regarding your clasp. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k thank you. I also forgot to mention the micro adjust spring bar broke when I was trying to adjust my bracelet, making my bracelet useless. Hopefully they send the correct parts.
Also I noticed in your video your 1662 has a blue tint to the crystal especially on the cyclops, i think your example has AR also. Might be just the camera though. I watched your previous pagani batman review and there's a noticeable difference.
Sorry to hear that. Mine doesn't have AR coating. The blue is the sapphire crystal itself, not blue AR coating. Regards, #WR4K
I pick up the Pearl DG5833 mvt for only 45euro on offer because it's way cheaper 3 times cheaper than the NH34A and demagnetised it and it's perfect. Furthermore the movement got some color accent to it and it looks good with transparent backcase.
All of my Ali watches I will at first demag it! Then measure the drift away s/d and correct it. They are all perfect calibrated afterwords for this price! The Pearl DG 5833 is a beautiful GMT clockwork! 💪👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😎
My favourite watch reviewer 4k ❤️. Batman homage oh yes please ❤️
nice to see this review, I have the previous version of this watch and it's the first pagani in my collection to cease up. it works for a couple of hours then stops and shake it a bit and wind it works a couple hours and stops.
differences with this and previous version is the polishing of the center links is definitely better on this one and the blue on the bezel is brighter and obvioisly better lume. Other than that it's the same and unfortunately this price is going into San Martin territory but not San Martin build quality.
Sorry to hear that regarding your movement Waqas. Regards, #WR4K
The Pearl movement used in the older versions is complete garbage. I have a PD Explorer 2 homage..the most inconsistent watch I have ever bought. I have regulated it about 5 times..occasionally it runs at -5 seconds per day, the next time I wear it will be +20. Nice looking watch, except for the misaligned cyclops!!! PD often get this wrong. The NH34 would be a far better bet, I'm sure that PD will change to this movement exclusively in their future GMT watches.
Nice. I wish the lumes were much bigger and a full gold GMT version soon
For some reason the bezel on the v1 looks a lot closer to a real Rolex batman gmt because of the thicker painted numbers. The bezel numbers on this new one looks a bit skinny.
Pagani Design should improve their QC. I won't mind paying a bit extra for that. So far, the polishing is very nice but little details like lens misalignment, numerals misalignment and the bezel should be improved.
I bough the San Martin Explorer II NH34 version and it’s just amazing
San Martin don't make an Explorer II homage. You must mean the Black Bay Pro homage. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k sorry my bad . It’s that one 🫶🏼
Congratulations. Wear yours in good health. Regards, #WR4K
Would you absolutely recommend the NH34A variant above the Pearl variant, despite the HUGE rehaut on the NH34A variant and the mismatch in lume (which makes the NH34A variant, in my opinion, less refined in looks compared to the Pearl variant)?
Or in other words, is the Pearl variant really that unreliably and horrible in timekeeping that it should be avoided?
I recommend the NH34A due to better reliability and accuracy. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k Thanks for your reply, I purchased the DG5833GMT variant because I really think the rehaut and the lume on the bezel defeats the aesthetic of the watch on the NH34A variant - if it breaks down I’ll probably get the PD1762 with the NH34A and BGW-9 on the dial only
I’ve purchased 6 watches in total and your video’s have been extremely helpful in picking the right pieces! Thanks for your work!
@@tonyserneels update on the watch please. I'm considering buying it
Will you be doing a review of the PD Day-Date anytime soon?
No Jordan. Regards, #WR4K
In regards to the bezel, honestly i liked the old insert better, just from the looks. The simple white paint was bolder and therefor looked better.
The issue on the bezel, that mark, would be a reason for me to send the piece back.
Some things you can overlook, I kept pieces with sharp corners on clasp or week lume, things that don’t matter so much or like in the case of sharp corners can remedy yourself. Yeah one could get a new insert and replace the old one but not for 200 bucks.
Hopefully they released a PD-1682 with the NH34…
I just checked, the sale price will be ~168, for that money, without that mark on the bezel, it’s ok.
Thanks for the review of this new piece!
On a side note, which range of accuracy for the NH34/35/36 group do you find acceptability?
+/- 10 seconds per day Kurt. Regards, #WR4K
What pagani automatic would you recommend for around $80
PD-1661 Starbucks. Regards, #WR4K
May I ask you a question, John!?
In the same 1662 with NH34, but the Sprite version which is left-handed, how are the functions of the crown (for example the winding)?
I mean, if they're just the same as you have shown, or if they're mirrored (for example, winding clockwise now becomes anti-clockwise).
I hope I was able to explain myself. I've ordered one and I don't want to ruin the movement.
Thank you very much.
Regards.
The crown operates in the opposite direction to the right handed version. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k Absolutely crystal clear.
Thank you very much for your kindness, I appreciated it a lot.
Best regards.
I'm planning to buy one for my father Gmt full gold jubilee one, how it is in terms of reliability, as you guys might have been using it for quite a while now?
@@emazmodak sorry for the delay, man. The watch is perfect. Mine runs -2 sec per day.
@@watchreviews4k I forgot to let you know, John: you were deadly wrong. After I received my 1662 nh34 sprite, I can confirm the crown operates in a mirrored way compared to the timepiece you're presenting in this video.
The hand winding is in the opposite direction, so the gmt setting, so the date setting.
Wish they made the crown smaller
Which one would you prefer steel dive gmt or pagani design ?
I prefer the PD-1662. Regards, #WR4K
I was itching on buying this because it is on sale for $114. Glad I saw your review which made me think twice. What do you guys think? Would it be still a good deal at that price or should I wait until they release a better version? Any recommendations?
Just bought one on Ali express for $58.
I'm planning to buy one for my father Gmt full gold jubilee one, how it is in terms of reliability, as you guys might have been using it for quite a while now?
Could you change the hands as long as long as they fit the NH35? Would like to put a pair of Tudor style style hands and obviously keep the GMT hand.
Yes Nick, NH35A hands fit the NH34A. Regards, #WR4K
Hi! Sorry to bother you, but i was wondering what gmt and non gmt diver you would recommend for around 100 dollars. I am willing to spend around 30 or 40 extra for the gmt.
This PD-1662 NH34A version, and the PD-1661 Smurf (see link below to my review). Regards, #WR4K
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Thank you for the video...
Do you think it's better to put these homage watches on an auto-winder when not being worn or to let them sit for a week or two between wearing them?
Both are OK. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k thank you. that is the first answer that makes sense, people are very divided on the subject
1200 TPD (Turns Per Day) is enough wind a 40 hour power reserve movement, such as the NH35A, or SW200-1. Wearing the watch for 8-12 hours per day is also enough. There isn't a difference in the wear of the movements parts whether the 1200 TPD is done on a winder, or on a wrist; as the winder doesn't rotate non-stop for 1200 turns. It rotates, then pauses, then rotates again. In both cases the lubricant is being worked around the movement which reduces friction, and wear in the moving parts. Leaving a movement for months static does no harm, as when its manually wound, automatically wound, or wound on wrist; the lubricant is worked around the movement.
Accelerated wear in movements doesn't come from them being wound too much by winders. It comes from dirty lubricant being worked around the movement, which increases friction, and wear.
Therefore regardless of how often, or seldom a movement is wound; it should be serviced every 5 years.
Every time a crown is unscrewed it allows air to enter the case which contains dust particles. Also the gears lose metal particles. The dirt from the dust particles, and metal particles contaminate the lubricant and make it dirty, which increases the friction, and wear.
Breaking down a movement, ultrasonically cleaning the parts, then building it back up with fresh lubricant every 5 years, reduces the aforementioned wear from dirty lubricant. Similar to changing the oil in a car engine every 10,000 miles, or 12 months, whichever comes sooner. The clean engine oil reduces friction, and wear.
Obviously its worth servicing an SW200-1 watch every 5 years at 150 Euro, as the cost of the movement exceeds this.
However its not worth servicing an NH35A, as a new movement only costs 30 Euro, which is less than the labour time for a watchmaker to break it down, ultrasonically clean the parts, and build it back up with fresh lubricant.
Therefore it makes more sense just to replace the NH35A with a new one when it can not longer be regulated within its stated -20 to +40 seconds per day.
Both winders and wearing watches are OK. Winders don't accelerate wear more than wearing the watch for 8-12 hours per day.
Providing the movement is serviced every 5 years, the wear will be the same in both cases.
It doesn't matter if a watch is worn daily, once a week, once a month, once a year, etc. If the lubricant is clean, it will reduce friction, and wear, when the movement is wound again in all cases.
Some movements only need to be serviced every 10 years. This because they use a high performance lubricant. For example Rolex developed a new high performance lubricant for the Caliber 3235. The 3135 had a 5 year service interval, versus the 10 year service interval of the 3235.
Its like the difference between using mineral engine oil, versus using fully synthetic engine oil. The mineral engine oil will need to be changed every 10,000 miles, but the fully synthetic engine oil can be run for 20,000 miles. However I still think changing the lubricant every 5 years is better than every 10 years.
Regards, #WR4K
Does the date automatically change or do i have to do it manually every day?
The date changes every 24 hours automatically. Regards, #WR4K
Hi there! I am planning to buy one but on an oyster bracelet and since I've bought before a PD-1644 with a jubilee bracelet I wonder if they are compatible/interchangeable with each other since they are similar in case shape and both pagani bracelet.
Can you confirm it if possible? Because I do like more of a jubilee bracelet, more comfortable, and if they are indeed compatible with each other I would buy the GMT with the oyster one!
Thanks in advance! Cheers!
Yes, the PD-1662 Oyster and Jubilee bracelets are interchangeable. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k Thank you so much for the quick reply, I will buy the PD-1662 with an oyster and then interchange with my PD-1644!
I have the Pepsi version of this with the nh34 movement but it came with a painted aluminum bezel. Does anyone know which variants of the pahani design's GMT watches come with a ceramic bezel?
Batman, Sprite, Root Beer. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k appreciate the concise answer. Seems pagani design seems to be having the same problem recreating the Pepsi bezel in the ceramic bezel that Rolex did.
Very nice reviews. Keep up the good job!
I'd pay 250 for an AR coating and some extra QC for the bezel.
How's this watch holding up after 9 months? Planning to buy it
I sold it after this review. Regards, #WR4K
How do you find out which movement version your Pagani watch has?
Looking through the exhibition case back at the rotor. For reference see my PD-1662 Sprite review below. Regards, #WR4K
th-cam.com/video/SJZ0_Xn_KyU/w-d-xo.html
230 euro?? I bought mine from the official Pagani store and it was $84 - should be arriving in the next day or so. It finally arrived into the UK from China.
Yes Bob, 230 Euro is the current price. As stated in the video the 11.11 sale price was 170 Euro. At 84 USD you have probably ordered the previous Pearl DG5833 GMT version.
See link below, the current DG5833 GMT version price on the Official Store is 102 Euro after discount coupons. 102 Euro is 104 USD.
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004497628916.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.0.0.2e8ada33WxoMf7
The Official Store has never sold the NH34A version for 84 USD.
Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k Ah - mine isn't the NH34 either aha, that'll be why :)
Let me guess.. no AR coating.
I love Pagani Design very much but their lume neglect to Steeldive and many other Hommage watches
Excelente revisado, acabo de comprar uno igual con la maquinaria Pearl DG5833GMT. ¿Sabes si es una buena maquinaria o puedo esperar problemas? Gracias.
The Pearl DG5833 GMT is an unreliable movement. It is the luck of the draw if one gets a good or bad one from the factory. They can be reasonably accurate, or very inaccurate, gaining or losing a lot of time. The NH34A is a higher quality movements, more reliable, and more accurate. Regards, #WR4K
Gracias!!! Espero ser el agraciado que reciba un buen DG5833GMT. El control de calidad de estos fabricantes chinos hace que como bien dices sea la suerte la que decida. Saludos desde España.
Congratulations Fermin. Wear yours in good health. I hope yours has a good movement. Regards, #WR4K
I have an homage watch with a very well regulated movement, Miyota or Seiko. However, it does not self wind-up, since the beginning. How can I solve the issue ? Rotor issue I suppose.
A watchmaker will need to inspect the movement Steve. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k thanks
how many extra clips in brecelet ? i have a pagani design day date 36 mm model and in this model i removed all extra clips but the watch didn't fit properly
There are 6 removable links Savan. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k both side 6-6?
if both side i can remove 6-6 clips so i would to purchase this batman PD 1662 batman with PEAL DG5833GMT please tell me
3 links can be removed either side of the clasp, so 6 links in total. Regards, #WR4K
Any micro adjustment on the clasp? Maybe I missed it.
Yes, 3 micro adjustments inside the clasp. Regards, #WR4K
The adjustment pin is very hard to remove
I bought the oyster style bracelet and it is NOT good. Poor clasp execution (I couldn't even open it) and poor tolerances on the link pins. My cyclops is not aligned correctly and the clarity is poor. The bezel, however, on my watch, is well executed and I don't seem to have the QC issues identified in the review. The usual gripe about lume will be the same for all the 1662 models. I would have preferred a SS caseback.
For the £125 GBP I paid in the 11/11 sale I am happy with the value and compared to the £350 - £400 currently being charged by Seiko I think it stacks up pretty well...
I intend to mod the watch and am considering the following.
1) BGW 9 hand set £10
1a) BGW 9 GMT hand £4
2) BGW 9 dial £20 - £50
3) Custom rotor £15
4) Lower profile crown (if tolerances allow) £10
5) Jubilee style bracelet from PD £18
6) Cyclops delete £0
I may also experiment with thin-film AR coating technology. Just found a company that supplies a 100mm x 100m sample for £6. Should be enough for 4 attempts 🙈...
Even after those upgrades it's still a Seiko NH34 powered GMT for under £200... even the micro brands using the movement can't get close.
Thanks for all the great reviews, keep up the good work 👏
Sorry to hear that regarding the QC issues Jamie. Congratulations. Wear yours in good health. Regards, #WR4K
Picked up the Perl Mvt option for under £60. Seems to keep good time. Paying 3 times more for the Seiko mvt didnt stack up for me
Best of price! Any questions? Please don't buy any more, the'll get so more expensive then! Wait for special offer! And the rotor is much to loud! 😢😢😢🤘🤘🤘😎
Can 5.7 inch wear this watch
It fits a 6-7" wrist better. I think it would look and feel too large on a 5.7" wrist. Regards, #WR4K
How many winds of the crown is full 40hr charge? Thanks
40. Regards, #WR4K
Скажите если я какое то время не буду носить часы, как их правильно заводить? За ранее спасибо.❤
40 clockwise turns will fully wind an automatic with a 40 hour power reserve. Regards, #WR4K
Does this watch come with the sizing tool?
No. You will need a 1.6mm screwdriver. Regards, #WR4K
Sir...did you change the movement to an NH34a or is Pagani making this offering? I'm wondering if I can upgrade to the NH24a with my Batman which I just received less than a week ago. The Pearl was +35 and only seemed to get worse over time. The hack feature broke on day 2 and when I opened the case to move the regulator, I saw oily fingerprints all over the movement and dirt, hair and debris inside the case. The O ring was out of its channel and was crushed and broken. I have some repairs to do but I want to put a decent movement in the watch first and foremost. Clearly I got one of the turds. It appears Pagani has monkeys assembling their watches in a dust storm. To add to it all, the clasp was stuck shut when I received it too. Definite QC issues. I like Pagani products but will never buy another one with the 5833 movement.
Pagani Design are now using the NH34A in the PD-1662. It isn't possible to upgrade as the dimensions are different. Regards, #WR4K
Is this the maxi size
Yes. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k are u sure sorry to ask again ;p
Yes. Regards, #WR4K
Probably glue on the ceramic bezel, I'm sure it cleans off with Goo Gone or something
Yes Rio, there was some adhesive residue on the bezel insert. I removed it with alcohol gel. Regards, #WR4K
I kind of like the 2 tone lume, i find it actually more helpful.
Yeah, I'll wait till San Martin or Seestern/Sugess introduce theirs.
Sugess have released Batman on Oyster bracelet. However it doesn't use the NH34A. Regards, #WR4K
Got it for $75 usd
FYI, not to be a wiseass, but this is not a Batman, it's a Batgirl as it has Jubilee and Oyster as the Batman :) Love your reviews
I know this. Regards, #WR4K
I just received a Steeldive watch (abalone) with a crazy NH36 movement. +6 HOURS per day on the first day, +2 HOURS on the second day. Do you things it will settle down? The case is so damped that my phone cannot hear the movement with the Watch accuracy app. First time it happens to me. Pretty disappointing.
I also got their Certina DS 3 homage which is fantastic and very well regulated.
Sorry to hear that Steve. It could be magnetised. I suggest you purchase a demagnetiser (see link below); and see if that works. If not it will need to be regulated using a timegrapher. Regards, #WR4K
www.amazon.co.uk/Demagnetizer-Professional-Degaussing-Magnetizer-Mechanical-Watch/dp/B0B24PVQ4Y/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=23ND7TDZ8XGLZ&keywords=watch+demagnetizer&qid=1669319723&sprefix=watch+demag%2Caps%2C129&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1
@@watchreviews4k thanks. Not magnetized, I tested.
Почему нет новых видео. Ждём
I quit TH-cam on the 22nd February. Regards, #WR4K
@user-fy9km5mu1z I produced 412 videos in 3 years, a massive body of work. I am now enjoying my retirement. Regards, #WR4K
The bezel should be tight and bidirectional on any GMT. Not good. The rest of the watch is fine. As for the regulation, if you have a timegrapher, you can regulate any Seiko movement to +- 0-1spd easily.
Yeah, but they’ve got to save money somewhere. I’d accept it (but not that scuff)
I have the same in a pepsi version.
It seems that Pagani is not very consistent when it comes to build quality. The engraving on mine, which I recently received, is appalling. It's not very precise, it's thick, it sucks... While everything else is of excellent quality, this bezel finish ruins everything :(
I sold this watch the day after I received it and bought the same one from Steeldive. The extra 30 euros is worth it in my opinion...
Lug to lug?
The dimensions are stated in my review. Regards, #WR4K
so don't buy yet, only when everything is in order at Pagani
I wish the nh34 was a traveler gmt...
They couldn’t. It’s a reworking of the NH36.
Die Uhr ist wunderschön ich Persönlich würde die mit dem China Uhrwerk vorziehen, das Seiko Uhrwerk hackt in der GMT Einstellung habe mir von Seiko Uhrwerk mehr versprochen
The Seiko NH34A is more reliable than the Pearl DG5833 GMT Theodor. Regards, #WR4K
But is it worth double the price as the older one costs 115 dollars?
Not my cup of tea but its still a nice watch
Since owning Sugess watches, I no longer like Pagani. Pagani watches often have sharp corners and edges. Pagani's bracelets often rattle and feel flimsy.
Thank you for watching. Regards, #WR4K
I bought mine for 94 USD
It must be the Pearl DG5833GMT version at that price? Regards, #WR4K
No is an special of Black Friday is the one with the nh34
It was 138 USD on special and with all coupons I paid 94.85 USD
Congratulations. Excellent price. Wear yours in good health. Regards, #WR4K
I revived mine and does have a blue tinted ar coating looks awsome no back play on the bezel
isn't this a batgirl? it's a jubilee bracelet
Yes, but "Batman" is more searched for hence me using it. Regards, #WR4K
I have had 2 of these and both had a misaligned GMT hand, about 20 minutes fast. I would avoid these at all cost. The watch itself seemed to be well regulated.
Thank you for watching Mitchell. Sorry to hear that. Did they use the Pearl DG5833 or NH34A? Was the watch running fast magnetised? Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k Both we’re the NH34 movement. Very disappointed.
Interesting. 20 minutes fast sounds like it was magnetised. The NH34A usually runs between the stated -20 to +40 seconds per day. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k The watch itself was well regulated but if you aligned the hour and minute hand at 12 then the GMT hand would be 20 minutes ahead and the was no way to align all 3 hands at 12.
230 euro?😂
Thank you for watching. Regards, #WR4K
Thank you for watching. Regards, #WR4K
They ruined it when they didn't put the logo only. The logo looks good, but printing Pagani Design under it looks like shit.
Please edit your comment to delete the swear word Jeremy. Regards, #WR4K
Just got one and it's wildly inaccurate. It picks up 5 minutes every hour LOL. I've bought a million watches over the years and I don't think I ever got one that didn't keep good time. I may keep it though, it makes me laugh it's so bad. :)
Thank you for watching. It could be magnetised. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k You were right! Fixed it with a $10 demagnatizer. Thanks so much I did not know about this.
I'm reading alot of these comments & people this is not a prestigious time piece of a watch but your bog standard really good made to look high end top tier watch so what exactly are you all looking for in a cheap replica model watch 🤔 £100 pounds vs £10k do the maths & except for what your paying for ffs....!!!
Thank you for watching. Regards, #WR4K