Great Work!! I could definitely see this as a possibility. Love the way the trains depart the station into the switch track and the launch intensity. The way you did the spike is PERFECTION! I hope it’s exactly like that! 👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks, Julian! I'm eager to see the construction progress this summer. My design is scaled based on aerial shots of the footers from 2 weeks ago, so it'll be interesting to see how closely it aligns with the actual build.
haha NoLimit's doesn't have the best safety measuring tools but based on what it has supposedly the g-forces are under the limits. but yeah it might have been too dramatics. haha
@@Megacat8199 Do Dodonpa in Japan pulled -3.3 g on its launch, and according to ASTM, a launch can provide up to -4 to -5 gs for a period of time before the general public feels uncomfortable. Fighter pilots can experience -9 gs, and while most people would pass out, it wouldn't hurt them beyond passing out unless they have a medical condition. So, if it pulled -4 gs for a few seconds, it's within the guidelines, and I don't see an issue with it.
@@chadwickdewey Actually that's completely false, fighter pilots cant handle -9gs, you would red out instantly. However fighter pilots can handle positive 9gs for a short amount of time. Another thing that you aren't understanding is that vertical and horizontal g forces are extremely different. Fight pilots cant even handle -3gs of force because they're planes cant even do -3g maneuvers. (notice how the - sign means negative, not positive.) Usually you dont have to specify weather you mean vertical or horizontal gs but in this case you do because I have no idea what your talking about. I think you were trying to justify why -4gs is realistic but you didn't specify weather you meant 4gs on the launch or -4gs on that little hill before the top hat. I was talking about how -4gs on the hill before the top hat but a 4g launch would be equally if not more unrealistic because of unrelated factors.
I took that into consideration. However, I believe that due to the limitations of LSM technology and their acceleration speed, in order to achieve the title of the tallest coaster in the world and make the spike taller than the top hat, they would require some form of swing launch. Alternatively, they could implement two coaster loading stations and not send it as high up on the top hat as I did in my simulation to help increase capacity. It will be fascinating to observe how things progress over the summer and into the fall.
No need for them to state anything. The last 50+ years of coasters built at the park speak for themselves. Almost every roller coaster built since corkscrew came out has been built with the purpose of breaking records. They’re notorious about breaking height records, but will just about break any record they can with each new installment at the park. So with that in mind why wouldn’t it be in their interests to go ahead and recapture that elusive height record again and why wouldn’t we the public assume anything otherwise? They’ve done nothing but build the tallest coaster several different times throughout the years and any type of coaster they build they usually try to break the height record for “said type” of coaster ie tallest stand up, suspended, inverted, wooden, steel, hybrid, winged just too name a few so wouldn’t it be a fair assumption that maybe they are going to try and regain that title and truly be able to call themselves the coaster capital of the world again? 🤷♂️ what they’ve built over the last 50 years I think speaks for itself as to what CP thinks about records
@@danhallas3546 I completely agree. If they're investing a significant amount of money into reimagining Top Thrill Dragster, it would be a no-brainer to take it to the next level, especially since this style of coaster is specifically designed to reach the Strata Coaster level. Both Kingda Ka and Top Thrill Dragster were originally built to be the tallest coasters in the world. Cedar Point also mentioned it would be something like no one has seen before. So will be interesting to see.
@@chadwickdewey I think the LSM Launch is really underrated. Take "fluch von Novgorod" as an example. Has one of the fastest Accelerations in the world while being an LSM.
did you make the spike 660 feet to make sure every car can cross the 500 foot mark? because i believe all the cars could cross the 600 foot mark in this version lol
It does not it technically can be shorter. I just assumed they would leave the Top Hat how it is and use the spike as the element to make it the tallest coaster in the world. But based on the Zamperla Leak this week it doesn't look like it will happen.
@@ToledoRailfan it’s being announced on the 1st I thought? But I did see people passing around a leaked announcement from Zamperla. So we shall see one’s Cedar Point officially accounts what they are announcing. But from the leak I saw it said the spike would be 420feet. Hopefully not I feel that is a missed opportunity.
Based on Toutatis and Patheon as @Gianni Theodoor mentioned Intamin's switch tracks only take 10 seconds to switch so I don't see any problems with this switch track since it will need far less time to switch before the train returns.
@@First-Drop-Studios 0:22, it never goes straight up. Theres pull up into tower around 210 ft, then twist for about another hundred, 310 then rest of it is going over top.
I dont mind the spike but the airtime hill right before the top hat is a very bad idea, G forces would be wayy too high and the ride would have to close for any sign of wind since they cant really add a second launch right after an airtime hill
@@moussamiller4812 I think implementing a two-stage launch, like Pantheon, would be a good idea. However, I do agree that the airtime hill might be overly intense. Instead, it could offer a more subtle pop of airtime or be positioned after the spike, similar to Kingda Ka. This could serve as a deceleration hill leading up to the brake run.
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Casually pulls -6gs on that last pass of the launch airtime hill and rips everybody in half 😂
haha nope the top g-force was around 4. haha Depending on how accurate NoLimit's g-force measures are that is.
@@chadwickdewey-4gs is still wayyyyy over the realistic safety limit
@@chadwickdeweybro the legal limit is -2g
@@chadwickdewey💀💀💀
That station start point with the mini launch into the switch track is amazing dude! Love this concept.
Thank you, Nick!
Great Work!! I could definitely see this as a possibility. Love the way the trains depart the station into the switch track and the launch intensity. The way you did the spike is PERFECTION! I hope it’s exactly like that! 👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks, Julian! I'm eager to see the construction progress this summer. My design is scaled based on aerial shots of the footers from 2 weeks ago, so it'll be interesting to see how closely it aligns with the actual build.
that negative airtime on that first hill is gonna kill somebody gawd dahm 💀
haha NoLimit's doesn't have the best safety measuring tools but based on what it has supposedly the g-forces are under the limits. but yeah it might have been too dramatics. haha
@@chadwickdeweyYou said in another comment that it pulls -4 which is still way over rollercoaster safety limits
@@Megacat8199 Do Dodonpa in Japan pulled -3.3 g on its launch, and according to ASTM, a launch can provide up to -4 to -5 gs for a period of time before the general public feels uncomfortable. Fighter pilots can experience -9 gs, and while most people would pass out, it wouldn't hurt them beyond passing out unless they have a medical condition. So, if it pulled -4 gs for a few seconds, it's within the guidelines, and I don't see an issue with it.
@@chadwickdewey Actually that's completely false, fighter pilots cant handle -9gs, you would red out instantly. However fighter pilots can handle positive 9gs for a short amount of time. Another thing that you aren't understanding is that vertical and horizontal g forces are extremely different. Fight pilots cant even handle -3gs of force because they're planes cant even do -3g maneuvers. (notice how the - sign means negative, not positive.) Usually you dont have to specify weather you mean vertical or horizontal gs but in this case you do because I have no idea what your talking about. I think you were trying to justify why -4gs is realistic but you didn't specify weather you meant 4gs on the launch or -4gs on that little hill before the top hat. I was talking about how -4gs on the hill before the top hat but a 4g launch would be equally if not more unrealistic because of unrelated factors.
What we all dreamed of… an automatic stall. Hope this happens at the top as you have it. Cool start as well!!!
did you check the gforce comb my guy this would kill you 💀💀💀💀💀
Way better than the official concept
THE MUSIC IS SO GOOD
This looks awsome
It will become the fastest multi-launch roller coaster of all time!
This looks brilliant 👍🏻
I'd love to ride that, awesome
Same here.
top thrill wicked twister
Can u add this to the steam workshop?
That part where you go backwards is soo scary to look at
Imma be honest with you guy every valley here would be illegal & possibly lethal
ummm what? The rate of climb is no different than it is now
@@zachjones2346 wtf are u talking about
@@mynameiskrysta WtF arE u TalKiNg aBoUt? calm down kid and use your brain
That airtime hill would hurt lmao.
Ithink it wil go up the spike first then over the top hat. To improve
capacity
I took that into consideration. However, I believe that due to the limitations of LSM technology and their acceleration speed, in order to achieve the title of the tallest coaster in the world and make the spike taller than the top hat, they would require some form of swing launch. Alternatively, they could implement two coaster loading stations and not send it as high up on the top hat as I did in my simulation to help increase capacity. It will be fascinating to observe how things progress over the summer and into the fall.
No need for them to state anything. The last 50+ years of coasters built at the park speak for themselves. Almost every roller coaster built since corkscrew came out has been built with the purpose of breaking records. They’re notorious about breaking height records, but will just about break any record they can with each new installment at the park. So with that in mind why wouldn’t it be in their interests to go ahead and recapture that elusive height record again and why wouldn’t we the public assume anything otherwise? They’ve done nothing but build the tallest coaster several different times throughout the years and any type of coaster they build they usually try to break the height record for “said type” of coaster ie tallest stand up, suspended, inverted, wooden, steel, hybrid, winged just too name a few so wouldn’t it be a fair assumption that maybe they are going to try and regain that title and truly be able to call themselves the coaster capital of the world again? 🤷♂️ what they’ve built over the last 50 years I think speaks for itself as to what CP thinks about records
@@danhallas3546 I completely agree. If they're investing a significant amount of money into reimagining Top Thrill Dragster, it would be a no-brainer to take it to the next level, especially since this style of coaster is specifically designed to reach the Strata Coaster level. Both Kingda Ka and Top Thrill Dragster were originally built to be the tallest coasters in the world. Cedar Point also mentioned it would be something like no one has seen before. So will be interesting to see.
@@chadwickdewey I think the LSM Launch is really underrated. Take "fluch von Novgorod" as an example. Has one of the fastest Accelerations in the world while being an LSM.
did you make the spike 660 feet to make sure every car can cross the 500 foot mark?
because i believe all the cars could cross the 600 foot mark in this version lol
Yes that I what I wanted. So the past train passed the 520 marks with some extra room for safety.
No limits2 > Planet Coaster
I really wish the drop didn't have a spiral at all. Would be so much more impressive as a straight decline.
Based on Zamperla's leak, it will be a straight line at a 90degree angle. Based on the leak and tomorrow's announcements, I'll have to remake it.
Ong, the best concept ever
hahahah the shaky screen
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There is no way this has 40 seconds of airtime 💀
Why does the spike HAVE to be the tallest?
It does not it technically can be shorter. I just assumed they would leave the Top Hat how it is and use the spike as the element to make it the tallest coaster in the world. But based on the Zamperla Leak this week it doesn't look like it will happen.
@chadwickdewey the new TTD is being announced today. The spike might not be taller
@@ToledoRailfan it’s being announced on the 1st I thought? But I did see people passing around a leaked announcement from Zamperla. So we shall see one’s Cedar Point officially accounts what they are announcing. But from the leak I saw it said the spike would be 420feet. Hopefully not I feel that is a missed opportunity.
I dunno man, the liability of hoping the track moves into position each time is shakey
Toutatis, Pantheon...
Hagrids
Based on Toutatis and Patheon as @Gianni Theodoor mentioned Intamin's switch tracks only take 10 seconds to switch so I don't see any problems with this switch track since it will need far less time to switch before the train returns.
The tophat is innacurate
What part?
@@First-Drop-Studios 0:22, it never goes straight up. Theres pull up into tower around 210 ft, then twist for about another hundred, 310 then rest of it is going over top.
Too slow. Stupid spike.
I dont mind the spike but the airtime hill right before the top hat is a very bad idea, G forces would be wayy too high and the ride would have to close for any sign of wind since they cant really add a second launch right after an airtime hill
@@moussamiller4812 I think implementing a two-stage launch, like Pantheon, would be a good idea. However, I do agree that the airtime hill might be overly intense. Instead, it could offer a more subtle pop of airtime or be positioned after the spike, similar to Kingda Ka. This could serve as a deceleration hill leading up to the brake run.
@@chadwickdewey yeah