SuperMoto Or S1000rr, Which is faster on track? (UNCUT)

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  • @leward
    @leward ปีที่แล้ว +368

    Win or lose, the supermoto would probably be more fun for most people.

    • @pavel_nekto
      @pavel_nekto 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Amen

    • @yzScott
      @yzScott 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      No bike will find your inner hooligan like a supermoto.

    • @Youtube_Globetrotter
      @Youtube_Globetrotter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yes it's a feeling I chase not lap time. I don't own a supermoto but i'll take it over a 1000rr

    • @ameunier41
      @ameunier41 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's more manageable on the road, but sometimes you feel like you could go way faster and the bike won't take you there.

    • @META313.
      @META313. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@TH-cam_Globetrotter If I had to keep it, I'd take 5K dirt bike over a sport bike in literally any price category. Sticking to the road and riding at high speeds are just immensely dull, boring concepts.

  • @mikemet1744
    @mikemet1744 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    You are a great rider. That was an absolute joy to watch. Cannot state how impressed I am. Kudos!!

    • @dangoesfast
      @dangoesfast 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "Cannot state how impressed I am" is a statement of how impressed you were

    • @mikemet1744
      @mikemet1744 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure why you cannot accept that I AM impressed that he IS a great rider. You can seek therapy. @@dangoesfast

    • @zurik69420
      @zurik69420 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dangoesfastnope because it an understatement

    • @mikemet1744
      @mikemet1744 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can you tell me how impressed I am?@@dangoesfast

  • @cethyhnc9305
    @cethyhnc9305 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    You definitely feel the 100kg difference in the curves :)

    • @MrDenisio77
      @MrDenisio77 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      And the skills

    • @oldineamiller9007
      @oldineamiller9007 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Well, this shows exactly what I see when I ride out on the very curvy mountain roads of my area together with other bikers.
      I own four different bikes all Yamahas. One MT-3 old version 660cc single with 183kg, one Bulldog V2 1100cc with 250kg, one MT-01 V2 1700cc with 265kg and a XV 1900cc also a V2 with 340kg. The heavier the bike, the lover is the speed in the middle of the curve. But the larger engines have a better acceleration due to the higher torque.
      So, in the end of the day only the skills of the rider make the difference. A very skilled rider on a low hp bike can outperform any medium skilled biker on a high end racing bike if only the road has enough curves. If there are enough straight lines the racers can only be faster on a race track. On public roads the speed limit prevents that.
      Summery: On public roads you can easy cope with about 90% of all the others, even you ride just a lightweight low hp bike. If you want to ride just for the fun of it, no need to invest a lot of $ in a high end racing bike.

    • @FilosophicalPharmer
      @FilosophicalPharmer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I’ve never seen more confused Aprilia and Triumph riders than when I left them all on a parallel twin 600cc Yamaha during a group ride here in the twisties of Western NC.
      …Except for the time I smoked my brother-in-law on his R1100R while riding a 600cc Honda Silverwing scooter. 😂

    • @oldineamiller9007
      @oldineamiller9007 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@FilosophicalPharmer
      Good one.

    • @FilosophicalPharmer
      @FilosophicalPharmer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      YAMAHA = “You And Me Are Hauling A**.” 😂👍🏼

  • @JL-qe5gl
    @JL-qe5gl ปีที่แล้ว +119

    This is on Streets of Willow; on Big Willow the SM wouldn’t even be close, on Horse Thief Mile, the SM would check out. Track layout makes a huge difference.

    • @v4pilot331
      @v4pilot331 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely... this video is purposely trying to deceive.

    • @friendlysnoworb6091
      @friendlysnoworb6091 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      no way, the bike that's faster in a straight line is faster on straight lines and the bike that's faster in the curves is faster in the curves!!!

    • @Wawnky
      @Wawnky 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@friendlysnoworb6091depends on how many turns and how long the straights are I guess

    • @keithburns5707
      @keithburns5707 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I was in a race in 1978 it was the annual AFM six hour endurance race that year it rain five out of 6 hours a Can-Am 250 dirtbike came in second .it doesn’t necessarily mean if you have 1000 cc that you’re gonna beat that little 250. I’ve seen Bob Endicott in the unlimited class in a 10 lap race He cleaned everybody’s clock at the end of the race, he was a half a lap ahead of everybody else .

    • @punditpounder5153
      @punditpounder5153 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Facts! Back in olden times, I think it was 2008, when the AMA raced at Sonoma Raceway (then called Infineon Raceway) on the north end of the Bay Area, Jake Zemke's 600cc FX pole position lap was good enough for P6 on the Superbike grid. That's how much track layout matters. That could NEVER happen at Big Willow or Daytona or Utah. There's a reason SuperMoto races on kart tracks and superbikes... don't.

  • @jvillain9946
    @jvillain9946 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Really just depends on the type of track. Smaller technical coarses with lots of sharp corners, then yes. Larger sweeping coarses with a long straight away then hell no

    • @kinnanton
      @kinnanton 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly!

    • @t16205
      @t16205 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Not to mention the rider

    • @RUBIZEN
      @RUBIZEN 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Someone could probably develope an AI/algorithm program to factor in the amount of curves/straights/rider weight/experience/ tire compound/ horse power.....
      That person is NOT Al Gore!

    • @jr.6199
      @jr.6199 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@RUBIZENhmmm, that's a weird way to bring up the former VP.

    • @Donfleebie1
      @Donfleebie1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      algore, what a waste!😂

  • @fanman4230
    @fanman4230 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    A lot of riders underestimate Sumos and Trail Bikes. I've mainly ridden big Trailies with road tyres, and on rides out have never been left behind. The only bikes I could never keep up with were 600s with an experienced rider. I'm a bit long in the tooth now for brains out riding although I'm seriously considering becoming a born again biker and getting a KTM Sumo, Wife permitting.

    • @dusty111
      @dusty111 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's one of the reasons i enjoyed my old KTM so much. Living right in the middle of the austrian alps many sportbike riders would underestimate your little "underpowered" bike until the twisties begin.
      Switched to something more civilized (Buell XB12) because of an engine failure and the rising risk of my riding style (drifting into corners and wheelies out of them). Never underestimate these little wheelie machines on mountain roads!

    • @FilosophicalPharmer
      @FilosophicalPharmer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      My wife said it was either her or motorcycles.
      Boy, am I gonna miss her!

    • @Dave-ng7ee
      @Dave-ng7ee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@dusty111 same here, before it got stolen I've had the 64bhp, 2014 690 smcr with full titanium akra and few bits and pieces and dynoed at 69 (nice) WHP!. 34k km, never any failures, only sipping some oil. On twisty Irish roads this was the best and by far the fastest bike I've ever owned and I was very, very good with my K6 gixer 600. All the big bike boys from Dublin Island Riders were getting a weekly spanking on Mondelo and Wicklow roads :)

    • @dusty111
      @dusty111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dave-ng7ee i never thought of Ireland as a motorcycle country because in my head Britain and Ireland are more or less rain only. On the other hand, the isle of man is near you

    • @weevilinabox
      @weevilinabox 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​​@@dusty111Motorcycles still work in the rain, you know. And high wind, fog, hail, and even snow!
      Those who ride throughout winter in the UK don't have that dangerous period of re-familiarisation which the fair weather-only riders require in spring after their four- to six-month layoff.

  • @paulhope3401
    @paulhope3401 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    So good! Amazing riding bro... the braking and mid corner speed on that thing is unbelievable. What an eye opener! Thanks for sharing.
    You earned a new sub.. 🤟

  • @Keithridesbikes
    @Keithridesbikes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This was such a joy to watch. loved how you really turned it up second last lap. Brings me back to racing and tracking my 450SMR. Does not seem even physically possible how fast they can corner. Of course you are a VERY skilled rider.

  • @c3h84ever
    @c3h84ever ปีที่แล้ว +11

    that is cool.. love that the SM is awesome in the corners, they both look like pretty dang good riders

  • @davidjordan5539
    @davidjordan5539 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    I love it , I ride a 690 KTM and do track days on it and it gives the sport bikes a fit, so funny and then when they find out iam 66 years old it’s even better. Keep the rubber side down brother.

    • @riccicrozzie8204
      @riccicrozzie8204 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Same here mate, I'm 63 soon, ride Duke 690, the look on the young bloke's face's when I take off my skid lid is rewarding.

    • @esterpandol
      @esterpandol 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Caro nonno Pasquale mi piacerebbe fare una gara con te nel circuito di monza mettendo in palio tutte le nostre proprietà al vincitore

    • @pavel_nekto
      @pavel_nekto 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Respect man. Iam from russia and we have no absolutely any life in culture after 40-50, so now i am located in serbia and enjoying when i see how the old peoples still keep active and feeling alive. Its gifting the hope to next day and healing my heart. Thanks to you all @@riccicrozzie8204

    • @airdevil21
      @airdevil21 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      : D that's awesome!!!

    • @796andy2
      @796andy2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      63 and my speed triples been gathering dust since I got the smcr

  • @alexfudo2160
    @alexfudo2160 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This looks like a ton of fun! Sounds like you had a blast as well. Your tires had to have one hell of a work out lol. Cheers Mate!

  • @TheGreatKevino1
    @TheGreatKevino1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is a great example of riding with momentum vs riding with power

  • @colinhalliday613
    @colinhalliday613 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That was fun to watch, thanks for posting. I'm a motard fanatic but used to love racing sports bike. Either way it's great 😁

  • @nickchilds3104
    @nickchilds3104 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tremendous riding and video, literally brought tears to my eyes. I've only ever ridden supermotos, but never at the track. I've got my 500exc for sale now since I was going to switch to just an R6 for almost exclusively track use, but this video might've convinced me to not give up on the 500 yet. The feeling of going around the outside of a way quicker bike is like nothing else. What top speed are you hitting with what gearing? I would imagine you're not running stock gearing on that FS.

  • @wouterlietaer2574
    @wouterlietaer2574 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, i know it is not that important on a supermoto, but what is the top speed of your fs 450? It looks that even on the straights you have not so much to lose on the sportbike

    • @IamCarsonn
      @IamCarsonn  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Somewhere around 105-110mph

  • @Hadouken434
    @Hadouken434 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Talk about wringing a bikes neck. Jesus.
    Hats off mate that was some ride

  • @lithium534
    @lithium534 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Super impressive. The amount of lean angle and grip a SM has in corners is insane. I still miss my Aprila SVX. But it's better this way. I won't die jong. LOL😂.

  • @RV-ardvark
    @RV-ardvark 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The other riders on the track do not appear to be very skilled. All of them were missing the apex of the corners and only were able to stay ahead by their machine's horsepower/acceleration.

  • @danielcarroll5667
    @danielcarroll5667 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Best track day video I've ever seen , thank you !

  • @SailingFrolic
    @SailingFrolic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro you helped me fall asleep again, so soothing and smooth. Great ride, man.

  • @PabloOrtizYT
    @PabloOrtizYT หลายเดือนก่อน

    WHAT AN ABSOLUTE JOY TO WATCH!!!!

  • @jasper_of_puppets
    @jasper_of_puppets 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic footage and riding! May I ask, what camera are you using?

  • @beefeekeefee
    @beefeekeefee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks like Willow Springs but one of the short tracks. Move over to the big boy track and see what happens.

  • @h2topgun
    @h2topgun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job. Impressive riding brother.

  • @neiljarvis8911
    @neiljarvis8911 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome! We all love to see the underdog come out on top!

  • @MetalurgicaDovat
    @MetalurgicaDovat ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great quality man! this is the good type of POV

  • @luigigiamportone5486
    @luigigiamportone5486 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this was an epic series of fantastics laps!!
    amazing

  • @tarikebarrett2804
    @tarikebarrett2804 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! That power wheelie at 1:39, sheesh 😅.

  • @RobertVP
    @RobertVP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That was a fun ride! Thanks for taking us along...

  • @the_rush_to_nothing
    @the_rush_to_nothing ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That was some epic riding. Great video!

  • @jimg.4913
    @jimg.4913 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes track layout plays a part but there's also a pretty big talent disparity between the rider on the SM and the rider on the RR.

  • @vr46go87
    @vr46go87 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey man my pie went cold watching this! Can’t do both! Fantastic ride!!

  • @bikesbirdsandbonsai2012
    @bikesbirdsandbonsai2012 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As the old maxim says... 'It ain't what you got, it's what you do with it that counts!' 😎

  • @jeffjackson8686
    @jeffjackson8686 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good fun, where can i see the footage from the back of the BMW?

  • @bernhtp
    @bernhtp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Willow Springs Streets track is very tight and technical. There are only a couple of places where the RR's power will do anything for you. The SM rider is really good, though.

  • @Gigachad_97
    @Gigachad_97 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What kind of performance mods are done to the motor?
    I’m getting ready to purchase a supermoto, and I’m curious what’s reasonably possible to ring out of these little motors. Obviously the suspension is DIALED on this thing.

  • @kengoold7157
    @kengoold7157 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    that was amazing to watch, need to get you into a motogp race with that ;)

  • @Jonathan-L
    @Jonathan-L ปีที่แล้ว

    8:25 ... wow, that long white cloud! What country is this track located in?

    • @countryjoe3551
      @countryjoe3551 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The track is the Streets of Willow Springs, located at Willow Springs International Raceway in Rosamond, California.

  • @Pstaines439
    @Pstaines439 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great riding! Do you have a hand brake for the rear? Those sports bike riders could easily pick up the pace if they moved off the bike in the turns😉

  • @chrismoody1342
    @chrismoody1342 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Boy you made some Sportbike rider cry big tears. I knew the supermoto would be quick, but not that quick. Super impressed with your skills. My first 20 years of riding was on a motocrosser. I’m 68 and riding a Sportbike at present. Can’t tell how much it makes want a supermoto after witnessing this.

  • @loneriderpapsht5790
    @loneriderpapsht5790 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The most epic friend battle I’ve ever watch on board. Amazing!! I love supermoto

  • @suryanshpundir6179
    @suryanshpundir6179 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    whats the tyre profile

  • @danrizzo1093
    @danrizzo1093 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was some good ridin! Thanks for the ride!

  • @AntiPattern328
    @AntiPattern328 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is pretty sick!!! Is that a 701, 450 or what on the SuperMoto?

  • @domovoibutler42
    @domovoibutler42 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Other than the awesome riding, the vast open space and the sky that you can see as far as the horizon is somewhere I ought to take myself and the bike to. The daily cramped workspace makes me miss the outside world.

  • @marksmart9754
    @marksmart9754 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As always. It depends on the track. My 650 used to keep up with the litre bikes around the tighter tracks. But the ones with the long straights and sweeping corners were the big bikes dream.

  • @bdjm8595
    @bdjm8595 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, you really brought it to the sportbike guys,, that was some amazing riding!!

  • @RastaMitchVlogs
    @RastaMitchVlogs ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wish I could see your PB, cause I'm loving the lines 😍. great video, looking forward to more!.💪

  • @MrLacomaco
    @MrLacomaco 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As you could see, it depends on who is riding. The guy on the green bike got away from him so that he just couldn't catch up to the end. Talking about whether supermoto or superbike is faster is irrelevant. Supermoto is made for fun and its setup is somewhere else than superbike. If you put your peers against each other, the superbike will win every time. Unless you're racing on a go-kart track.

    • @MotoAtheist
      @MotoAtheist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also helps to alert the other riders that he was going to fake race them. This was clearly a general riding session, everyone was just out there relaxing and enjoying their ride, not racing. Well, except for SM guy... LOL!

    • @EnglertRacing96
      @EnglertRacing96 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not just go kart. Sm won pikes peak outright in 07 and 08.

    • @MotoAtheist
      @MotoAtheist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EnglertRacing96 LOL! In it's class you mean. Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 won the heavyweight class and the overall fastest time of any motorcycle class. 9:44.963

    • @EnglertRacing96
      @EnglertRacing96 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MotoAtheist read carefully, 2008, davey durelle set the fastest 2 wheel time of all motorcycles in 2008. And he backed it up in 2009.
      Key difference from today..... there was a mile or so of dirt at the top back then.

    • @EnglertRacing96
      @EnglertRacing96 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MotoAtheist look it up type 2008 pikes peak davey durelle into google, he was 23 seconds faster than the 1200 class winner.....

  • @kevincollins4112
    @kevincollins4112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Killin it bro💯

  • @hiKidz011
    @hiKidz011 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is the most beautiful track i have ever seen in the pure nature, where is that?

    • @IamCarsonn
      @IamCarsonn  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In a little desert town in California!

    • @countryjoe3551
      @countryjoe3551 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The track is the Streets of Willow Springs, located at Willow Springs International Raceway in Rosamond, California.

  • @jonford6119
    @jonford6119 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember spending an entertaining afternoon a few years ago as a spectator at Bouley Bay hillclimb on the island of Jersey. A tight and steep hillclimb. Second fasted bike time of the day was a guy on a 650cc supermoto. Fastest time of the day was the same guy, on his 400cc supermoto. On a fast open circuit like Monza, a litre class sports bike would win, by a long way. The tighter and more technical, the more the supermoto comes into play.

  • @PureEvolution
    @PureEvolution 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    some great riding done well to keep that pace nice work

  • @derekgrey3927
    @derekgrey3927 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should get some clip ons it makes cornering so much better. Or a set of handle bars you can invert easily. It will help lower your center of gravity and puts your weight further forward.

  • @Diabeekei
    @Diabeekei 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think a supermoto is a worth it buy? I’ve been debating getting one to add to my current stable, 2023 Z H2 SE, 2023 Sportster S and 2023 TNT135. And would you rec the KTM 690 over the Duc 698?

  • @Mtrimble69
    @Mtrimble69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What bike is this?
    I had an Aprilia sxv5.5 in full supermoto kit with a handful of trick bits back in the day and in everyday use it was a super bike killer 100% of the time.
    I always wondered if it could of done the same on the Track...

  • @TrentonWarrington
    @TrentonWarrington 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know that supermoto is fast, but I’m pretty sure that rider is insanely fast! Impressive!

  • @swealer
    @swealer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If we take the 2nd to last lap as an example, which its most likely his fastest lap around the course and you have good knowledge and understanding about how to handle a bike (in this case the supermoto) then you will see how i could shave off easy 2-3 seconds at bare minimum.
    ❤I DONT HAVE ANY BAD INTENSIONS ON THE DRIVER AND DONT WANT TO BE RUDE OR INSULT HIM IN ANY WAY!❤
    He got great driving skill for sure, but there are some fatal mistakes in relation to driving line, break points and small hick-ups in the handling department (like the rear wheel locks while braking before corner entry f.e.)
    Would be awesome as well if we had time's shown but i am pretty sure the camera-bike has the faster laps overall and i also think that the superbike drivers dont ride as long or dont habe the same expirience as this driver.
    All in all great video! Be safe out there big boy❤

  • @stevebradshaw3365
    @stevebradshaw3365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's about which is the most fun to ride on a personal level, I've a Supamoto and love it, but whatever you ride stay safe and just enjoy.

  • @T.S.-eo7my
    @T.S.-eo7my 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would have loved to see you continue to carve out your own hot corners…but you seemed rather content to follow the sport bikes once you were in the corners with them. You had no problem entering very hot and late which is an absolute pleasure to watch. Just wish you carried through with that same aggression once around the other machines…because your combo could easily carry the corner faster than them. 👍

  • @kirkdunn1379
    @kirkdunn1379 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Big track s1000r is gone, short track super moto.......need a lot of space to use a 1000cc effectively

    • @holmes1956O
      @holmes1956O ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really I used to watch Rich Oliver on his 250cc yamaha gp bike embarrass 1000cc super bikes even at daytona. They would catch him on the straits but his corner speed was so high they couldn't keep up

    • @LeeXRV
      @LeeXRV 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The S1R is faster everywhere period, it's not even a discussion. It accelerates massively harder, can brake harder and has far more grip in the corners. It's not even a competition to put a S1R on track with a supermoto.

  • @mickdundee7604
    @mickdundee7604 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video also Awesome ridi g skills 👏👏

  • @PH-dr8ed
    @PH-dr8ed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Street bike is slower in the turns due to lack of skill and not trusting his tires, then powers out once straightened up a bit. The dirt bike loses a lot of ground on the straights due to lack of horsepower, but he’s able to keep his momentum up in the turns to-the point that the street bikes are in his way! Fun to watch tho!

  • @janpaho7036
    @janpaho7036 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where did you get that steering damper?

  • @Honda_sev
    @Honda_sev 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is awesome! It's wild how much faster in the corners you are. I get the weight difference but does it make it faster being taller? Having the center of gravity being further from the contact point on the road have anything to do with it? Like is the SM more planted in the corner?

  • @dejandezman6139
    @dejandezman6139 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think torque also plays a part. The Supermoto motorcycle develops its maximum torque at lower revs than the S1000 RR, which is an advantage on a track with many turns (even sharp ones). That's why you can brake later because you gain the necessary speed earlier when exiting the corner. On a more open track, with less twisty corners, the S1000 RR has the advantage.

  • @kosmik1
    @kosmik1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    even though the operator has smaller displacement bike, the entry into the corner seems later and catching up to the much faster bikes when they rip but slam on the brakes in the turn. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast?

  • @familygromscarsfun3896
    @familygromscarsfun3896 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its like a good togue race ! the ae86 vs the skyrine! love it!

  • @lievenwehmann3222
    @lievenwehmann3222 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Which tire youse the supermoto rider on this fast track ?

    • @IamCarsonn
      @IamCarsonn  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Metzler k1s

    • @lievenwehmann3222
      @lievenwehmann3222 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IamCarsonn racetec sm ?

  • @FilosophicalPharmer
    @FilosophicalPharmer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent riding on the Katoom! Now to be fair, it’s time to see the S1000RR on a Sumo track! 👍🏼😁

  • @ponch3lo
    @ponch3lo ปีที่แล้ว

    what camera was used to record this? it looks so good.

  • @Forged_RSV4
    @Forged_RSV4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’re a beast man! Sick video

  • @SunZoo-h8r
    @SunZoo-h8r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arrrrrh the corners, great riding !

  • @hamish3766
    @hamish3766 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome video, definitely looks like you were holding back so as to get some good following footage. Most impressive is that you could swap the wheels and you could go enduro riding with your buddies. I'm guessing most of those bikes you overtook were probably dedicated track bikes that aren't even road registered. This track was also pretty fast with long straights. Get on a tighter track, or even better on a 690 supermoto and a lot more egos would be crushed.

  • @LordHolley
    @LordHolley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Supermoto bikes are just so damn fun to ride!!!! Definitely more my thing.

  • @scotthutcheson1893
    @scotthutcheson1893 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your skill on the track is unbelievable!!!!

  • @willkiddhill
    @willkiddhill ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In other words, Carson is just HIM.

  • @TheCarPassionChannel
    @TheCarPassionChannel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a great battle

  • @finn4320
    @finn4320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that Saiyan420_??

  • @bryanland1011
    @bryanland1011 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Streets of Willow. Loved racing that track. You should have challenged the S1KRR at Horse Thief! Loved racing HT on mr SM!

  • @iitsturbo
    @iitsturbo ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This quality 🫶🏼

  • @azeton88
    @azeton88 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was thst green bike that passed you and drove off like you were standing still?

    • @IamCarsonn
      @IamCarsonn  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's my boy Gio. Double the horsepower will tend to do that 🤣

    • @IamCarsonn
      @IamCarsonn  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You'll see the session of us riding together in my next video, he was haulin 💨

    • @ashuadkar
      @ashuadkar ปีที่แล้ว

      Looked like a ZX10R

  • @head0927
    @head0927 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At the end of the day most of us may think we could race (we couldn’t) a supermoto would be best for everyday riding. Not to mention how much more fun you could have if your bike is set up correctly.

  • @stephenpheonix6549
    @stephenpheonix6549 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s some awesome riding! I was leaning with every corner LOL

  • @ConorX3m
    @ConorX3m 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It smc 690 or supermoto 450 4t based on exc 450f?

  • @Radhancock
    @Radhancock ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Real question is, which one has to get rebuilt after 10 of these track days?

    • @IamCarsonn
      @IamCarsonn  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Neither?

    • @davidcolin6519
      @davidcolin6519 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IamCarsonn The supposed "fragility" of KTMs is a really, really weird idea. I mean, these engines do the Dakar, Baja and the ISDE without turning a hair, but as soon as you put one on the track, they're supposed to do impersonations of 4th July? Would somebody explain the logic of that?
      And the other thing is that, coming from an Enduro background, you are not going to find easier mechanicals to work on, because the rider isn't allowed to receive outside assistance during an enduro, so it has to be fixed by the guy who rides it.

    • @cethyhnc9305
      @cethyhnc9305 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@davidcolin6519 Can you find a working 2000s KTM ? Because i certainly cannot.
      On the other hand, I can lift a rock and find 5-6 working CRFs.
      That said, today's KTM are nicely built and you find crap tons of accessories but the plastic/$ ratio is ridiculous.
      Sherco > ALL. :p

    • @davidcolin6519
      @davidcolin6519 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cethyhnc9305Can I find a working 2000s KTM?
      Of course I F*CKING can. In fact, I have a mid 90s KTM and pretty much everybody I know who rides off road has a KTM. Where I live, it's such a no-brainer that it is pretty rare to see anything else.
      Maybe it is because you're in The States, where I believe dealers are spread pretty thin and therefore maintenance might not happen when it needs to, but here in €Ireland that really isn't a problem.
      And if you insist on buying OE plastic, that's your problem. Again, where I am, there's a sh1t-ton of plastics readily available.
      Funny that you should mention Honda for parts. When I had Hondas, parts availability was absolutely dire. I had one bike that I literally couldn't use because of a simple broken part, and I couldn't use the bike for over 6 months!

  • @koonzietwo
    @koonzietwo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video and very relevant. Or course skill matters, for the same rider, when it's straight, power wins out; when it's twisty, maneuverability wins out. Applies to any kind of craft. Here's the thing--isn't it the turns that make it fun?

    • @JukkaX
      @JukkaX 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Going from 100 kmph to 250 kmph in few seconds is very much fun too ;- )

  • @stefanschmidt3069
    @stefanschmidt3069 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine he had a Husaberg FS650 …. great Riding !

  • @MiJi_29
    @MiJi_29 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both have it's own advantages, and this video explains it. I love this race

  • @RamesPWNZ
    @RamesPWNZ ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the camera settings?

  • @oakkblackbird
    @oakkblackbird 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that you with the 65hp dirt bike @IamCarsonn?? If so, you are fucking awesome! 👍

  • @enibub
    @enibub 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pulse goes up, adrenaline rises, breathing harder...and then I realize, that I am just sitting in my chair watching this guy riding his bike god-like! 👍

  • @tommyt9519
    @tommyt9519 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! I just bought a RC390 race prepped bike for track days. Maybe I should have just put SM wheels & tires on my 350 EXC-F!

  • @redspaderacing
    @redspaderacing 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Making short work of all the big bikes in the corners 🙌🔥

  • @gcgcgcgcgcgcgcgc
    @gcgcgcgcgcgcgcgc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A joy for the eyes.. my compliments

  • @Chaos_God_of_Fate
    @Chaos_God_of_Fate 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I way prefer light nimble bikes over power- great vid! Give me a tuned 250 any day over a liter bike! I really prefer a balance though- the Ninja 636's are my favorite Bikes, closely followed by the older 750 Ninjas with the double round headlights- I mostly like them for their looks though, the 636 has it all though! Love my handling over my power- having both is always good too though!

  • @유경재-o2q
    @유경재-o2q หลายเดือนก่อน

    Each position and purpose is different, so it can't be compared to who is faster on the road. Just enjoy it each^^♡

  • @jarikinnunen1718
    @jarikinnunen1718 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Old good advice to novice rider, was buy dirt bike and modified it to for track race. Many succesful rider began with dirt bikes in ice track (Jarno Saarinen). You are fast or not, with it.

  • @carburbar
    @carburbar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It´s a 690 SMC-R, true? Great video!

    • @IamCarsonn
      @IamCarsonn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Smr 450

  • @C_R_O_M________
    @C_R_O_M________ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that a 500 or a 450 and what gearing do you run?