yes, particularly as Nijinsky gave so much it seems really tragic that a little could not have been given back in his time of real and desperate need - very sad and disturning.
I think I deleted my own post. Don't know why I came across this just now. I remember seeing Kyra Nijinsky at the SF Opera House. We were ballet students but were terrified of her, she was small, and very "Russian" looking and we thought she was very, very old. Actually, she was about the same age I am now (which is pretty old darnit). Wish I had spoken to her! I had just read the Richard Buckle book on Nijinsky. What a strange, place, the theatre!
Kyra was delightful. Met her several times in California after she had seen me dance. (She said my dancing reminded her of Fokine.) Took critic Aimee Ts'ao to join in visiting with Kyra in San Francisco; stayed for hours- listening to her life story and seeing her paintings. (I had studied at the San Francisco Ballet School under Vilzak, Christensen and others; plus took a few classes under Schollar who was supportive.)
"Don't you think that it is sad that people remember your father for La Spectre de la Rose and not Rite of Spring?" Decades later, and I first hear of Nijinsky through Rite of Spring :)
My first acquaintance with the name of Nijinsky was because of his involvement with 'The Rite of Spring'. I'm afraid to say that I didn't even know of his association with 'Le Spectre de la Rose' until very recently.
I first learned of him through the memoir of Felix Yusupov. So I learned of all his ballets at once. I do remember Rite of Spring and The Afternoon of the Faun best, besides his life story. Yusupov doesn't talk much about Nijinsky unfortunately (just mentions borrowing one of his costumes for a costume ball). But he was close friends with Anna Pavlova, and apparently acquaintances with Diaghilev as a teen - he took a potrait of Yusupov to an exhibition in Paris. It kinda sounded like Diaghilev had a crush on him, tbh... He did own a statue of Nijinsky so I assume he was a fan. Nijinsky's quietness probably kept them from becoming friends, though.
So this is the famous Vaslav Nijinsky, the man whose name identifys a dance academy here in Querétaro! Just barely taking notice of this great man and ballet dancer. Thanks John for sharing this excerpt from the interview with his daughter Kyra.
hi Jo! yes, so interesting to hear his daughter talk about him. Tamara Karsavina has talked about the experience of dancing with him on film. and there's a tiny bit of film of Nijinsky walking in a street in Vienna in 1945 th-cam.com/video/bHeDtmcaVgQ/w-d-xo.html&pbjreload=10
This is both very interesting to me, but terrifying. I've never talked about this before, but my late father, David Blair,CBE, principal ballet dancer, with the Royal Ballet, for 24 years, with manic depression. I was about the same age, as Kyra Nijinsky, too, when this terrible ordeal started. It happened 5/6 years later, after Rudi defected, from the Kirov. It effected my whole life, and that off my non-identical twin, Diana, whom later on developed bi-polar, and schzophrenia, which is still on-going, and pure hell to cope with her. It destroyed my parents' marriage, to Maryon Lane, also principal ballerina to the RB, who became a "secret, demonic, demon", to both us children, and to my beautiful daddy. The chronic,profound pain, of growing up in a family of brilliant ballet dancers, who went mad, and privatetly sectioned, so the press, fans, etc was a massive burden to bear, and to ALWAYS, never mention, to anyone, not even my fathers' mother knew, my beloved granny. Tears are pouring down my face, I'm brokenhearted at the re-liveing these horrendous, never ending ordeals, of madness, due to ballet, that they both were born, and gifted to do. What a price to pay.
dear Catherine yes, manic depression is a terrible illness and i suspect brought on by circumstances - like those at the RB after Nureyev's defection. and as a dancer and so public figure to have had to keep his illness hidden must have been terrible.
Dear Catherine, the endless permutations of tornent life inflicts us with is hard to cope with. As the Buddha said, "Life is suffering", but why? I think it is admirable of you to share your story. You have done well to survive - as have I with the particular burden I have been saddled with. All we can do is help each other out. I hope you have good friends who carry you through bad patches. My love to you. God bless you. Robert (formerly of London now Devon)
But, Catherine, your father was David Blair, and Kyra's/Tamara's father was THE Nijinsky. There's a big difference in what we, and history, actually care about.
hi Annephelides - glad you liked it too - i love that here is such a direct connection with Vaslav Nijinsky. pity the only footage we have of him is walking down a street in Vienna: Vaslav Nijinsky - Unique Footage
There is a documentary about Kyra Nijinsky in San Francisco, When She Danced, or something like that. I wonder what they all lived on. I met Irina's daughter once, she was living in Arizona. The family has such strong resemblance. Not so typically Polish, I would think.
Thank you so much for the video. It's warm heartening that Nijinsky has his daughter to talk about his achievement, no doubt it wasn't that much coming from her, would be great if anyone can suggest a link that l can go to to read more about this great dancer.
yes, listening to Kyra Nijinsky talk about her father makes him more real - past legends can be so remote from us. 'Nureyev' by critic Clive Barnes is very good - i'll look out a link for it for you.
hearing his daughter chat about her father makes him more real for me - and the anguish of his not being mentally well is more palpable and heart-rending
I have a Master's in psychology and can tell you that schizophrenia is more common in men than women, and comes on in their early 20s. Vaslav was 24 when it hit him. That age is pretty typical. A real shame! I don't think there were decent medications for the disease back then, so he didn't really get any treatment. Nowadays, there are medications that can allow a the sufferer to lead a pretty normal life.
да, она сделала фотосессию «Le Specter» с Сесилом Битоном для «Vanity Fair» 1935 года - и выглядела очень похожа на своего отца, который был целью съемки fineartamerica.com/featured/kyra-nijinsky-in-le-spectre-de-la-rose-cecil-beaton.html
Nijinsky should really have been remembered for "Lapre mi'di daune Faune", which was in fact not a ballet as such, but it completely broke away from the conventional dancing of the time, it was also very controversial because of the way that it ended, & caused a scandal in high society, around all of Europe.
sadly i don't have any footage - this is an interesting article about Ludmilla Schollar in Australia michellepotter.org/articles/ludmilla-schollar-in-australia
Vaslav Nijinsky tells it in his diary and also it is told by e.g. Romola and Peter Ostwald. It is claimed that Vaslav's brother Stanislaw had fallen from window and had head damidge and that is why he become insane as child. I have thaught that it is also possible that him had been also abused when their family was touring dancers in circuses etc. and it was one cause for he having mental disorder. Many who have been abused have divided personalities and have nowadays therapy, but some of them have also put to mental hospitals. I guess that ballet roles could have helped Vaslav in these symptoms but ballet have also been cause of them because of abuse of young dancer(s).
@@mirkkasalo5089 If a person develops schizophrenia, it’s not caused by physical abuse. There is an excess of dopamine which causes unusual thinking. True, any discipline which causes stress can contribute to the onset of schizophrenia, however, ballet dancing would have kept Nijinsky “sane” to a certain degree. When he was not dancing, the “unusual” thinking would take over and his condition would worsen. My mother suffered from diphtheria when she was a teenager in Russia during the 1930’s and, developed schizophrenia when she was studying medicine. I noticed that she seemed happy when she was singing. She was blessed with a beautiful singing voice. My theory is that the singing may have blocked the “voices” in her head. Apart from her illness, she was a wonderful mother.
i've given a transcript of the other interview with Tamara in the 'Notes' attached to this upload. it begins in the 'Notes' with: "The second is a telephone interview with Tamara Nijinsky, conducted by the Los Angeles Times on 3rd November 1994. Here is the transcript of that second interview: Q: What do you remember from the years you lived with your father?"
i've given a transcript of the other interview with Tamara in the 'Notes' attached to this upload. it begins in the 'Notes' with: "The second is a telephone interview with Tamara Nijinsky, conducted by the Los Angeles Times on 3rd November 1994. Here is the transcript of that second interview: Q: What do you remember from the years you lived with your father?"
sorry i wasn't very clear - i've given a transcript of the other interview with Tamara in the 'Notes' attached to this upload. it begins in the 'Notes' with: "The second is a telephone interview with Tamara Nijinsky, conducted by the Los Angeles Times on 3rd November 1994. Here is the transcript of that second interview: Q: What do you remember from the years you lived with your father?"
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Nijinsky’s diary is a beautiful book. Something has changed in me since I first read it.
very powerful - not an easy read
No other book has shown me as much truth, no other book has given so much value to contradictions.
yes, particularly as Nijinsky gave so much it seems really tragic that a little could not have been given back in his time of real and desperate need - very sad and disturning.
I think I deleted my own post. Don't know why I came across this just now. I remember seeing Kyra Nijinsky at the SF Opera House. We were ballet students but were terrified of her, she was small, and very "Russian" looking and we thought she was very, very old. Actually, she was about the same age I am now (which is pretty old darnit). Wish I had spoken to her! I had just read the Richard Buckle book on Nijinsky. What a strange, place, the theatre!
Kyra was delightful. Met her several times in California after she had seen me dance. (She said my dancing reminded her of Fokine.) Took critic Aimee Ts'ao to join in visiting with Kyra in San Francisco; stayed for hours- listening to her life story and seeing her paintings. (I had studied at the San Francisco Ballet School under Vilzak, Christensen and others; plus took a few classes under Schollar who was supportive.)
lucky have had the opportunity to speak with her - i didn't know she painted - i'll look any works out - thanks
How Amazing to hear and read these first-hand accounts of Nijinsky! Fascinating! Thank you for Sharing 🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷
"Don't you think that it is sad that people remember your father for La Spectre de la Rose and not Rite of Spring?" Decades later, and I first hear of Nijinsky through Rite of Spring :)
it's for his ballets like Rite of Spring that he had most influence on modern dance - for me too :)
My first acquaintance with the name of Nijinsky was because of his involvement with 'The Rite of Spring'. I'm afraid to say that I didn't even know of his association with 'Le Spectre de la Rose' until very recently.
I first learned of him through the memoir of Felix Yusupov. So I learned of all his ballets at once. I do remember Rite of Spring and The Afternoon of the Faun best, besides his life story.
Yusupov doesn't talk much about Nijinsky unfortunately (just mentions borrowing one of his costumes for a costume ball). But he was close friends with Anna Pavlova, and apparently acquaintances with Diaghilev as a teen - he took a potrait of Yusupov to an exhibition in Paris. It kinda sounded like Diaghilev had a crush on him, tbh...
He did own a statue of Nijinsky so I assume he was a fan. Nijinsky's quietness probably kept them from becoming friends, though.
So this is the famous Vaslav Nijinsky, the man whose name identifys a dance academy here in Querétaro! Just barely taking notice of this great man and ballet dancer. Thanks John for sharing this excerpt from the interview with his daughter Kyra.
hi Jo! yes, so interesting to hear his daughter talk about him. Tamara Karsavina has talked about the experience of dancing with him on film. and there's a tiny bit of film of Nijinsky walking in a street in Vienna in 1945 th-cam.com/video/bHeDtmcaVgQ/w-d-xo.html&pbjreload=10
Fascinating. I am not a fan of ballet but this interview and the subject - I love Russian culture - is a treasure Thank you.
my pleasure - fascinating hearing someone talking about Nijinsky who knew and had contact with him
This is both very interesting to me, but terrifying. I've never talked about this before, but my late father, David Blair,CBE, principal ballet dancer, with the Royal Ballet, for 24 years, with manic depression. I was about the same age, as Kyra Nijinsky, too, when this terrible ordeal started. It happened 5/6 years later, after Rudi defected, from the Kirov. It effected my whole life, and that off my non-identical twin, Diana, whom later on developed bi-polar, and schzophrenia, which is still on-going, and pure hell to cope with her. It destroyed my parents' marriage, to Maryon Lane, also principal ballerina to the RB, who became a "secret, demonic, demon", to both us children, and to my beautiful daddy. The chronic,profound pain, of growing up in a family of brilliant ballet dancers, who went mad, and privatetly sectioned, so the press, fans, etc was a massive burden to bear, and to ALWAYS, never mention, to anyone, not even my fathers' mother knew, my beloved granny. Tears are pouring down my face, I'm brokenhearted at the re-liveing these horrendous, never ending ordeals, of madness, due to ballet, that they both were born, and gifted to do. What a price to pay.
dear Catherine
yes, manic depression is a terrible illness and i suspect brought on by circumstances - like those at the RB after Nureyev's defection.
and as a dancer and so public figure to have had to keep his illness hidden must have been terrible.
he was schizophrenic! but a genius.
Dear Catherine, the endless permutations of tornent life inflicts us with is hard to cope with. As the Buddha said, "Life is suffering", but why? I think it is admirable of you to share your story. You have done well to survive - as have I with the particular burden I have been saddled with. All we can do is help each other out. I hope you have good friends who carry you through bad patches. My love to you. God bless you. Robert (formerly of London now Devon)
But, Catherine, your father was David Blair, and Kyra's/Tamara's father was THE Nijinsky. There's a big difference in what we, and history, actually care about.
@@8angst8 that was a bit uncalled for
And the interviewer is...Margot Fonteyn! Nijinsky, a genius.
aka Margot Fonteyn LOL
God bless the descendants of this amazing couple.
I can't help feeling a personal connection to everyone involved the Ballets Russes.
My first teenage crush was on Nijinsky.
Thank you for this post !!!
hi Annephelides - glad you liked it too - i love that here is such a direct connection with Vaslav Nijinsky. pity the only footage we have of him is walking down a street in Vienna: Vaslav Nijinsky - Unique Footage
hi itisitsits
yes, she makes her father seem so real to us today - the actual man can get lost in the legend.
There is a documentary about Kyra Nijinsky in San Francisco, When She Danced, or something like that. I wonder what they all lived on. I met Irina's daughter once, she was living in Arizona. The family has such strong resemblance. Not so typically Polish, I would think.
This is very important!
it is :)
Fabulous. Thank you. One feels so much regret , as if it was all one's fault! As if we could all do something and we didn't.
Благодарю за прикосновение с п р е к р а с н ы м !🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤
Love for Nijinsk!
yes! if only there was film of him dancing
oh god. not just a kick down the stairs, but a Nijinsky kick...
and not just an ordinary kick!
No doubt he had incredibly strong legs.
if a footprint remained and they saved and duplicated it, just think of the money they could have made .@@JohnRaymondHall
Appreciation.
thanks. and i felt one step away from Nijinsky
Thank you so much for the video. It's warm heartening that Nijinsky has his daughter to talk about his achievement, no doubt it wasn't that much coming from her, would be great if anyone can suggest a link that l can go to to read more about this great dancer.
yes, listening to Kyra Nijinsky talk about her father makes him more real - past legends can be so remote from us. 'Nureyev' by critic Clive Barnes is very good - i'll look out a link for it for you.
+Thank you very much.
hearing his daughter chat about her father makes him more real for me - and the anguish of his not being mentally well is more palpable and heart-rending
Fantastic. I think this is Margot Fonteyn interviewing her.
It is.
yes, it is, as i mentioned in the 'Notes' with this upload - it's from her documentary ''The Magic of Dance''
More from this amazing daughter please. Are there videos of her dancing. Amazing ballet history. Thanks
there are photos of her made up as Vaslav Nijinsky in 'Le Spectre' by Cecil Beaton for 'Vanity Fair' 1935 - for a moment you think it is her father
is strange how everyone feels regret as we could do something we didn't.
I have a Master's in psychology and can tell you that schizophrenia is more common in men than women, and comes on in their early 20s. Vaslav was 24 when it hit him. That age is pretty typical. A real shame! I don't think there were decent medications for the disease back then, so he didn't really get any treatment. Nowadays, there are medications that can allow a the sufferer to lead a pretty normal life.
I wonder what she thinks about sergei diaghilev
that's an interesting question!
Похожа на своего знаменитого отца. Хорошая дочечка.
да, она сделала фотосессию «Le Specter» с Сесилом Битоном для «Vanity Fair» 1935 года - и выглядела очень похожа на своего отца, который был целью съемки fineartamerica.com/featured/kyra-nijinsky-in-le-spectre-de-la-rose-cecil-beaton.html
Nijinsky should really have been remembered for "Lapre mi'di daune Faune", which was in fact not a ballet as such, but it completely broke away from the conventional dancing of the time, it was also very controversial because of the way that it ended, & caused a scandal in high society, around all of Europe.
i agree - it showed the way to modern dance. the scandal gave the work a high profile
Dommage pas de traduction
she looks and sounds just like Dawn French
never saw the connection but you are right!
Do you have any footage of Ludmila Shollar or Anatole Vilzak either from Diaghilev era or after?
sadly i don't have any footage - this is an interesting article about Ludmilla Schollar in Australia michellepotter.org/articles/ludmilla-schollar-in-australia
I read that he has a head injury in childhood.
that's interesting - i hadn't heard that
Vaslav Nijinsky tells it in his diary and also it is told by e.g. Romola and Peter Ostwald. It is claimed that Vaslav's brother Stanislaw had fallen from window and had head damidge and that is why he become insane as child. I have thaught that it is also possible that him had been also abused when their family was touring dancers in circuses etc. and it was one cause for he having mental disorder. Many who have been abused have divided personalities and have nowadays therapy, but some of them have also put to mental hospitals. I guess that ballet roles could have helped Vaslav in these symptoms but ballet have also been cause of them because of abuse of young dancer(s).
@@mirkkasalo5089 If a person develops schizophrenia, it’s not caused by physical abuse. There is an excess of dopamine which causes unusual thinking. True, any discipline which causes stress can contribute to the onset of schizophrenia, however, ballet dancing would have kept Nijinsky “sane” to a certain degree. When he was not dancing, the “unusual” thinking would take over and his condition would worsen. My mother suffered from diphtheria when she was a teenager in Russia during the 1930’s and, developed schizophrenia when she was studying medicine. I noticed that she seemed happy when she was singing. She was blessed with a beautiful singing voice. My theory is that the singing may have blocked the “voices” in her head. Apart from her illness, she was a wonderful mother.
Какой сильный у неё акцент
That was just one, where is the other?
hi zzindorf - not sure the other you are mentioning ? :)
Your title says Kyra AND Tamara interviewed.
i've given a transcript of the other interview with Tamara in the 'Notes' attached to this upload. it begins in the 'Notes' with: "The second is a telephone interview with Tamara Nijinsky, conducted by the Los Angeles Times on 3rd November 1994. Here is the transcript of that second interview: Q: What do you remember from the years you lived with your father?"
i've given a transcript of the other interview with Tamara in the 'Notes' attached to this upload. it begins in the 'Notes' with: "The second is a telephone interview with Tamara Nijinsky, conducted by the Los Angeles Times on 3rd November 1994. Here is the transcript of that second interview: Q: What do you remember from the years you lived with your father?"
sorry i wasn't very clear - i've given a transcript of the other interview with Tamara in the 'Notes' attached to this upload. it begins in the 'Notes' with: "The second is a telephone interview with Tamara Nijinsky, conducted by the Los Angeles Times on 3rd November 1994. Here is the transcript of that second interview: Q: What do you remember from the years you lived with your father?"