Or just do what I did and buy practically all of them! I just switch it up as I feel like it. Currently in the cabinet: ONR V4 ONR V5 ONR Wash and Wax V3 McKee's N914 DIY V1 DIY V2 Idrosave (w/Preludio Alkaline & Acid) Feynlab V3 Hydra V3 Absolute KCx Rrw Hero Nemesis CLEAN. Rinse-Less
@@jeffc6832What a selection, but you must add Gyeon Ecowash to your arsenal, it’s amazing, great cleaning ability, slickness on a different level, gloss so high and a great smell!😮
@Ecdetails If my daughter had her way, HERO wins every time... She loves the scent. I had to overrule her vote to try CLEAN in direct sunlight... Still had to break it down to panel by panel as the sun just bakes everything on dark blue paint. It's ALL awesome! Congrats on the products and it's great to see you building a global distribution network!
Fun test Jason! Thanks for including us all in this test. Some great companies here, and good people behind them! Bradley and DJ from ADS, Nick and Yvan from DIY Detail, and Eddie and Jamie from Detail Co are all great humans! Like you said, we are at a point in time where there are many top tier rinseless washes now, compared to just 2-3 years ago! I have tested all of these and I can also confirm you can’t go wrong with any of them. I can tell you genuinely like detailing and geeking out on things like this and I am the same way hehe. I wish your channel much success!
@@PanTheOrganizer I'm glad to have offered an independent review. I am so impressed with the quality products that all of you have created! One gap that I see is trying to buy ANY rinseless wash at retail stores. Next vacation, I am bringing a 4 oz travel size of rinseless wash, sponge, small bucket, and drying towel. Use a hybrid method at a coin wash then follow up with my own bucket wash.
Hey Pan, I've noticed that clean rinseless is attracting quite a bit of dust and it doest want to come off when i blast It with air(master blaster). I live in a pretty dusty area, but other rinseless don't attract as much dust or is easily blown off.
@@AMI_Detail The best advice I can give you is focus on telling a good story and picking topics people are interested in (like you did here). Microphones (and lights) are a great investment but gear in general can be a distraction. I learned this the hard (and expensive) way. Good luck with your channel.
Keep it coming man I subscribe bc you are doing so much in this comparison and the time to explain things and is really needed to hear different perspectives
I think I'm subscriber #43. Great video. I can confirm, after using DIY Rinseless v2.0 yesterday, that I noticed a different water behavior. I saw water trails as I was gliding the legacy sponge across the pane. The water didn't pool together like v1.0 Still, was easy to dry. Slick.
Nice comparison test. I’m having trouble getting started on the rinseless though. All my cars are coated, and thus far I’ve found it easier to just load up my foam cannon with Bilt Hamber touchless. Spray, rinse, DI rinse, quick blow dry and done.
@@MrSfdude That is what it's all about... You have a system that's working for you AND you're getting great results AND you enjoy the process. I would like to try some Bilt Hamber products, mainly Touch-less and Trace-less. Keep doing what you're doing and have fun doing it!
I totally agree I can't see why anyone would you rinisless wash products when like you I use snow foam once then rinse then re foam and use a noddle microfiber wash mitt then dry I suppose you would use a rinisless wash if you don't have a snow foam cannon
Rinse-less wash is great for Mobile detailing and professional businesses in detailing. Super quick and efficient. It’s not just limited to people living in apartments and water restrictions states. It’s truly a game changer for me personally. I have a foam cannon and a pressure washer, and I go Rinseless majority.
Sweet looking Boxster. I almost bought a 2016 Boxster in a very similar color. There are so many new rinseless washes coming out now days, I can't keep up with all of them. I used to keep an assortment of Rinseless washes on hand but I would have an entire cabinet full of them now days! It's crazy how many new detailing brands and products are coming out now days. It's the GOLDEN AGE of Detailing!
@@joevanseeters2873 One of my previous Porsches was a 968 cabriolet in AMAZON GREEN METALLIC. Everyone said it was blue. I would describe that color as the deep greens of the jungle reflected off the dark blue waters of the Amazon river. Like all things... over thinking in top gear! You are right... combine the top quality products along with reliable demonstration videos on TH-cam and, yes, it could be the GOLDEN AGE of detailing.
Wild that you did not pre-rinse and it still was lubricating enough not to scratch . Just proof that this new tech is just better than the old soaps of our fathers. For detailers and dealerships there are not many bad options in the rinseless world anymore.
I'm sure that having a ceramic coating sure helps, but yes, rinseless wash is amazing chemistry and is getting better and better. It's great to see many of the companies continuing to evolve and revise their formula.
I'm an OG Porsche owner... bought my first one in 1998. A '93 968 Cabriolet for $25,000. After driving minivans for a decade or so... my wife spotted this '01 Boxster S on marketplace. $7,000 was a pretty good deal. Not a show car at all, but FUN to drive (and detail). This Boxster just rolled 50K on the odometer. These "fried-egg" headlight Porsches are about the only affordable ones out there that fit my price range.
@@johns4407 I have new buckets scheduled to arrive on Tuesday. To come up with 4 buckets (and somewhat color match with products) I used what I had on hand. That bucket has been around since the 90's.
@willsridecare www.amazon.com/dp/B09SQFFG8V - Amazon - Coffee Syrup Pumps Congratulations on your DIY Tuber spot. You are working with some great products and it'll be fun to see all of you grow along your journey!
Would be interesting to see which product works better when it comes to strictly cleaning power. Is there a way to test cleaning power without contact?! Hoping to choose one to use during our Canadian Salt & Grime winters!
The other brand that I'm looking forward to testing more as Winter hits is Labocosmetica. They have Preludio Acidic for inorganic/mineral contamination and Preludio Alkaline for organic/oil contamination. These are designed to be used with rinseless wash and do not require water to rinse away. I'm pretty sure that Preludio Acidic will be my go-to for knocking down the salt and then follow up with any of these four (and maybe try another couple as I am getting quite a few comments about more quality products out there). If you watch the section where I zoom in after pre-spraying the Nemesis, there were some pretty good shots of how the dirt was lifted off the surface and just suspended in the rinseless wash beads. It's one of those shots that I didn't exactly aim to get... just noticed it while editing. Check around 17:31-17:44 - drop playback to .25 to see it better. 17:36 and 17:44 are the best examples. Some beads had very distinct pools of dirt in them, while a few beads were filled with small whispy clouds of dirt in suspension.
Great vid - thanks for the comparison of some of the highest profile rinse-less products on the market at the moment. Couple of suggestions for future vids.. 1. when doing comparisons, it might be easier to initially set out a list of criteria for each product to test against, not for point scoring but maybe to help you to clearly structure your own impressions/experiences and conclusions. 2. When commentating, just try to cut down on the umm’s and err’s. Thanks again 👍
@@scowil456 You are right on. There were plenty of more umm's in the cut footage. After trying my hand at video production for this first video, it really gives you an appreciation for the vloggers out there that make smooth, informative, and engaging videos. These early videos have been a bit painful to edit and I am most surprised to figure out I have an accent. I'm one state away from a full blown "you betcha"! Thanks for the feedback.
Very interesting video and while all 4 appear to be top notch rinseless washes, if Nemesis is as slick or slicker than the other 3, it may be the best when you look at price and how it appeared to flash off quicker. Nemesis is quite a bit cheaper than all those others which is really surprising. I've used ADS Hero (and to be honest I didn't think it was super slick), P&S Absolute (It's slick, but tends to streak more and the pre-soak didn't clean as well as Hero or RRW), Koch Chemie RRW (might be my favorite so far, just need to use it a few more times) and I was looking to try Clean, Nemesis, DIY and Ethos, but after seeing this, I may just order a gallon of Nemesis and call it. Thanks for the comparisons...
@@deadshrub I loved the combo of DIY v1 followed with Ceramic Gloss as a drying aid. When I tried a similar process with HERO, I was very disappointed. After watching a few more videos with HERO, I decided to nix the drying aid and started to realize that the hype was true. With the popularity of HERO, I believe it's a great baseline for comparison. You are right on the value, as well. Nemesis is almost half the cost of CLEAN Rinse-less Wash... WOW!
@deadshrub I have not tried ANY Koch Chemie products YET. I know there are some really good ones... I've been busy with DIY Detail, ADS, Labocosmetica, Chem-X, NXTZEN, and now throw in CLEAN and Detail Co... Too much of a good thing, eh?
@@deadshrubRRW is good 👍 definitely try nemesis and Clean rinseless. They are both impressive. Nemesis is my new favorite tho. Experience is great and the cleaning power.
@@russbeatty7297 I have been using Nemesis for everything since the test. Interiors, windows, around the office, even mopped ceramic tile floor. I did pick up Koch Chemie's RRW as a couple of people had recommended it, but it was not for me. It seemed to be very grabby and not near the slickness of these four. I plan on trying Ethos Hybrid v3 and Phoenix EOD Hydra at some point.
@@brandonnguyen1486 I've played around with foaming v1 of DIY Detail... works pretty well, but ultimately, just getting the chemical onto the surface is the goal.
@@brandonnguyen1486I have both and my preference is the dreadnaught. I actually prefer having two medium sized (18 x 24) over one larger towel. Many times I only need one for a vehicle, but it's great to have the next one ready. www.walmart.com/ip/Platinum-Series-Twisted-Terry-Microfiber-Super-Absorbent-Car-Drying-Cleaning-Towel-2-Count-Red-Gray/1974641571 Not sure if that link will work, but this pair of 1000 gsm, dual sided, twist loop microfiber drying towels are easily accessible and reasonable for $10 for the two pack.
I thought it might be good to have a nobody (me) do a comparison. I tried to just demonstrate how each of the four rinseless washes compare. Both ADS HERO and DIY Detail's Rinseless Wash are quite popular and would be a good standard for comparison that many others have used. I really liked watching EC Details videos about various rinseless products, so I was on The House of Rags site early to get Nemesis on order... I was very surprised to see CLEAN. Rinse-less wash released on the same day... so I added it to my cart as well. My order was in around 9 am on Saturday, Sep 21. Around 10 am, I had decided to go with the whole line-up of CLEAN products as I was quite intrigued by his video that demonstrated his coating. I have had some waterspotting issues with another high end coating and thought the CLEAN 8-year coating might be a better solution. I haven't had time to get around to that one... but it's a longer term type of a test to evaluate a coating in real world situations.
I still just dont picture myself ever using rinsless and hate the sponge application but out of these....they all work, so I would have to go Detail Co for the win because the price point is half of these others approximately and it works just as good. I personally just don't see the time savings....slower to apply, still have to spray it on, let it dwell, and then have to towel dry instead of blowing. Tried a buddies rinseless and it was actually slower time wise than my typical method using a foam cannon. It has some uses like in super cold freezing weather or drought conditions I suppose. But you could just bucket wash the old way in those situations. I just don't see it as some incredible innovation worth investing much in like others do. I dont see it as superior in any way to foam rinse, foam, quick bead type of product, blow dry. I don't know any pro detailers in my area using it for anything either. We all look at it as a new youtube fad/obsession. I got interested in it for use on motorcycles but after testing on my own, went back to my old method.
@_Mailman That is the cool thing with all of these different companies bringing their A-game to the consumers... We all have options. Once you get setup with something that works, it's usually tweaking from there. For me, I hated dragging out a water hose, pressure washer, pressure hose, gun, foam cannon, mixing soap to water ratio for good foam action, rinsing everything down, getting water in all the anoying areas that just won't stop dripping, etc... BUT, I finally wall mounted the pressure washer(s), plumbed in the water supply, added a high pressure hose reel and it has made foaming fun again. The only downside for me is that this is outside only (as I have no indoor drain) and will be seasonal with freezing temps coming soon to Iowa. I am pretty sure I will end up foaming during the summer and rinseless washing in the winter. Keep enjoying what makes you happy!
If you like Nemesis, you will like Hydra also. Surfactant rinseless is my jam. Dry off is always better. High humidity, you will start losing patience for polymers. Those streaks you thought flashed off, will come back. Let's also realize, unless you used four drying towels, Nemesis was last, and still dried the best. good vid man, thanks.
@waterhose4130 I also prefer the hybrid rinseless wash over polymer-heavy ones. I used the four different sides of the towel. Yes, by the end, it wasn't staying as neatly folded as I was flailing around with one hand and trying to record with the other. I've got some better tools for future videos.
@@AMI_Detail nah, nothing wrong with the video. A lot of you guys do a great job with one hand tied behind your back. I have bad leg and back issues after Covid, boo hoo right? I definitely look for products that just work well, and I don’t have to chase around to get an excellent result. A great pre wash, a great rinseless, great drying towels, easy to use toppers, it’s all a priority to me. I only have enough leg lately to not have to finesse a product, to get the best results from it. Products like Hydra & Nemesis, BC3, Griot’s Surface Wash, 303 Touchless Sealant for wheels, Darkside, all stuff I go to regularly. But, yes, I like to try new stuff, and coming from a small business family, I prefer the little guy who makes products, and actually are there to answer questions. Someone who cares if you, some nobody to them, actually has an opinion on what they sell.
Wipe off is extremely important to me. I don’t want to be pushing water around and leaving polymer spots all over the car. I tried Nemesis and it’s a great cleaner imo.
@davekeogh4870 YES! The results are all very similar. User experience is about the only difference... and not everyone cares about scents and the behavior on the panel... just so it gets the job done. Like Pan mentioned to me in one of his comments... much of this is for those who want to geek out on the details. For me, it's fun... overboard, sure, but still having fun doing it. The only other factor is what a product is leaving behind and that one is very difficult to confirm. One cool thing about the comments are the ideas on different uses. Someone was looking for a drying aid, but didn't want it to leave anything masking the true benefit of their ceramic coating. So far, I mostly just see people using spray sealants as drying aids, which definitely are left behind. C6 Mist is probably the closest thing, but it is $30 per 16 oz bottle. Nemesis actually has this use case on their bottle. Nemesis is $10 per 16 oz bottle, but then you dilute it 64:1. That is 64(!) 16 oz bottles... for $10. That puts it at 16 cents per bottle! Good stuff, Maynard!
One thing I noticed with DIY V2 RW on a car that had no protection at all, the paint stayed wet a lot longer and it wasn’t as easy to dry off. The water just pooled on the surface. Granted it had tons of road film and hadn’t been cleaned in who knows how long. Afterwards the car looked 10x better and shinier. I can’t wait to try Nemesis. My car just went through hurricane Milton and there’s tons of road film on it. I also have Pans RW as well, if it’s good in the sun it may be my go to.
@elonsus9747 It's heartbreaking to see the devastation from Milton. I'm glad you're safe. You are right on with your analysis. The subtle differences is what made things interesting. Overall, these four products had outstanding results. Using them in different situations will probably make sense to use one over another to take advantage of the differences.
When discussion is a lot about scent, it shows how little difference there really is in getting the results. ONR and others are getting ignored in the constant focus on what's new.
Yes, the products are pretty equally effective. One thing that I really like about these products versus ONR or Absolute is that they are a mix of polymers and surfactants. ONR and Absolute are much heavier on the polymer spectrum. I prefer something that simply cleans and doesn't leave much (if anything) behind. I'm only going by what I've seen in other videos. Forensic Detailing and Mike G have some great videos about various rinseless products.
For me HERO is #1, DIY 2. Everything else is good but these both are great. Love using Absolute and ONR as well. Gonna try Nemesis for their Black Friday sale!
Have you tried Phoenix EOD Hydra 3.0 or KCx RRW? I prefer them over Hero, although you definitely can’t go wrong with Hero or any of these! Like many have said, pick one or all and enjoy!
@@pNoyr3D That's another vote for Phoenix EOD. I'll add that to my list... But just starting with 16 oz! I did pick up Peleus and look forward to using that.
@@AMI_Detail 16oz will be more than enough to form an opinion and I have yet to try Peleus since I don’t really use panel preps too much, however I HIGHLY RECOMMEND Titan if you haven’t tried that yet.
@@pNoyr3D I ran out of DIY Detail Panel Prep and I needed some for prepping glass for coating and tire prepping for ADS Ghost. My order of Peleus came in just as I stretched the last few drops of DIY. I'll check out some videos on Titan. Seems like I've seen quite a few Instagram reels featuring Titan.
@FelixBouchardDetail Yes, rinseless (and traditional foam) acts differently on a coated surface. It's awesome that all of these products leave a clean car that lets the coating shine. I was trying to demonstrate the subtle differences as I have seen the same differences when using these products on my un-coated Bronco Sport. Just an observation... not really a performance difference. The only real differences that I saw was dry time, but again... very subtle and can be used to customize the situation. I washed my daughter's car outside and in the sun... I went for CLEAN as it seems to hold up to those conditions a bit better. It just seemed to fit the situation. I don't have a comparison in that case, but I can report that it worked great and I still had to break it down into smaller sections as the sun on dark paint sure does bake things rather quickly.
Great choices for a comparison video, and good job!! However, the background music was so annoying to me that I had to scroll forward to the results…..sorry. 😩
Yes great comparing video but N°1 the annoying music and the music was too loud i had trouble hearing what you were saying about the products and N°2 NO MATTER HOW POSH IT IS YOU NEVER EVER USE A SPONGE ON CAR PAINT IT SCRATCHES IT
@nickevens3190 Thanks for the tips... I'm trying to source better music options AND working on the proper volumes. I'm also working on speaking more clearly and concisely. As for the sponge... I encourage you to check out time stamp 17:36. It shows how the pre-spray encapsulates the dirt and lifts it into the beads of rinseless wash. By wringing out most of the liquid from the sponge, it still keeps some for lubrication and leaves room to soak up the rinseless that has the dirt floating inside of it. The sponge is simply glided along the surface and never used to scrub. It really is just a tool to transfer the chemical to and from the surface. The chemical is really what is doing the actual work. As with any tool... if it's used incorrectly, yes, it can scratch. I've seen micro marring from people using dry microfiber on polished paint... I simply cringe when I see people going in dry, but there is also a misconception that water is a lubricant. Some people out there belive that rinsing off the dirt and then drying with a towel is a good thing. You have to have some level of lubrication for drying with a towel and some sort of chemical to clean effectively. The shampoo should do something similar to the rinseless and break the bond between the paint and the grime. Then you can use a wash mit to safely contact the paint. Again... just some things that I've seen over the years.
A fellow Iowan! Nice video. Happy to see an independent opinion with these products. Too many insider reviews or guys that review stuff that sell a certain group of products. My first rinseless wash was P & S Absolute and I liked it but over about 3 months it was separating out and that bugged me. Never sure if I was getting the proper amount of solids (which I assume are the polymers that help lubricate) to the more clear liquid. I recently started using ONR Version 5. It is ever so slightly less slick but it leaves less behind. Absolute had a very very slight haze under specific lighting. ONR dries faster though. Overall I am going to switch to ONR because it is homogenous....doesn't separate out like Absolute. I like consistency. Hoping Meguiar's releases a rinseless wash at SEMA 2024 in a few weeks.....with the market trend they are behind if they don't.
@dboenish Thanks for the comment, neighbor. These rinseless wash products are all so good, but you really don't find ANY on retail shelves. Maybe if the big boys would pay attention to what all of these start-ups are doing, rinseless wash options would be offered to a larger buying group. There are many detailers out there that only shop local and therefore have very limited options. I truly believe what Eddie and Jamie are doing with thehouseofrags.com will expand the availability to that many more around the World. Having discount bundles that you can mix and match from different companies, mean you could get four great products at a very reasonable price. Still, not the same as walking into a store and walking out with instant gratification knowing you are heading home to use your new product that afternoon. SPOILER ALERT: You usually end up with inferior products and actually pay more than if you just wait for the good stuff.
The music was terrible and annoying. Too loud and unnecessary especially during your testing. Bad stuff out of the way, thanks for the video. Good luck in the future. Giving you a sub to see where it goes.
Great test! Can’t go wrong with any of them. Pick one from a company you support, and use them often!
@@armourdetailsupply With Winter coming, I'll be using my stockpile of rinseless wash as weather in Iowa sucks for 2-3 months.
Or just do what I did and buy practically all of them! I just switch it up as I feel like it.
Currently in the cabinet:
ONR V4
ONR V5
ONR Wash and Wax V3
McKee's N914
DIY V1
DIY V2
Idrosave (w/Preludio Alkaline & Acid)
Feynlab V3
Hydra V3
Absolute
KCx Rrw
Hero
Nemesis
CLEAN. Rinse-Less
@@jeffc6832 We all know you are a little crazy, Jeff.🤣
@@jeffc6832What a selection, but you must add Gyeon Ecowash to your arsenal, it’s amazing, great cleaning ability, slickness on a different level, gloss so high and a great smell!😮
@@jeffc6832 Jeff if you get the chance get a bottle of angel wax H2NO you will be amazed at slickness and gloss 🇬🇧
Wild test man, Just shows how good they all are appreciate you including us
@Ecdetails If my daughter had her way, HERO wins every time... She loves the scent. I had to overrule her vote to try CLEAN in direct sunlight... Still had to break it down to panel by panel as the sun just bakes everything on dark blue paint. It's ALL awesome! Congrats on the products and it's great to see you building a global distribution network!
Fun test Jason! Thanks for including us all in this test. Some great companies here, and good people behind them! Bradley and DJ from ADS, Nick and Yvan from DIY Detail, and Eddie and Jamie from Detail Co are all great humans!
Like you said, we are at a point in time where there are many top tier rinseless washes now, compared to just 2-3 years ago! I have tested all of these and I can also confirm you can’t go wrong with any of them.
I can tell you genuinely like detailing and geeking out on things like this and I am the same way hehe. I wish your channel much success!
@@PanTheOrganizer I'm glad to have offered an independent review. I am so impressed with the quality products that all of you have created! One gap that I see is trying to buy ANY rinseless wash at retail stores. Next vacation, I am bringing a 4 oz travel size of rinseless wash, sponge, small bucket, and drying towel. Use a hybrid method at a coin wash then follow up with my own bucket wash.
@@AMI_DetailThanks for the kind words! I appreciate it. Have a great week!
Hey Pan, I've noticed that clean rinseless is attracting quite a bit of dust and it doest want to come off when i blast It with air(master blaster). I live in a pretty dusty area, but other rinseless don't attract as much dust or is easily blown off.
Great first video. Excellent topic choice. Well done.
@@BabyBackManiac Thank you. I picked up a mic and gimbal, so production quality should improve.
@@AMI_Detail The best advice I can give you is focus on telling a good story and picking topics people are interested in (like you did here).
Microphones (and lights) are a great investment but gear in general can be a distraction. I learned this the hard (and expensive) way.
Good luck with your channel.
Keep it coming man I subscribe bc you are doing so much in this comparison and the time to explain things and is really needed to hear different perspectives
@@Dias-v Thanks... Stay tuned for some Dual Ryobi pressure washer action.
I think I'm subscriber #43. Great video. I can confirm, after using DIY Rinseless v2.0 yesterday, that I noticed a different water behavior. I saw water trails as I was gliding the legacy sponge across the pane. The water didn't pool together like v1.0 Still, was easy to dry. Slick.
Glad I'm not the only one who saw that change with v2.
Nice comparison test. I’m having trouble getting started on the rinseless though. All my cars are coated, and thus far I’ve found it easier to just load up my foam cannon with Bilt Hamber touchless. Spray, rinse, DI rinse, quick blow dry and done.
@@MrSfdude That is what it's all about... You have a system that's working for you AND you're getting great results AND you enjoy the process. I would like to try some Bilt Hamber products, mainly Touch-less and Trace-less. Keep doing what you're doing and have fun doing it!
I totally agree I can't see why anyone would you rinisless wash products when like you I use snow foam once then rinse then re foam and use a noddle microfiber wash mitt then dry I suppose you would use a rinisless wash if you don't have a snow foam cannon
@@nickevans3190 I think it makes sense for someone that has limited water access that lives in an apartment or such.
Rinse-less wash is great for Mobile detailing and professional businesses in detailing. Super quick and efficient. It’s not just limited to people living in apartments and water restrictions states. It’s truly a game changer for me personally. I have a foam cannon and a pressure washer, and I go Rinseless majority.
@@nickevans3190 People report that it's a lot faster than the foam, rinse, foam, contact, rinse, dry method you mention
Sweet looking Boxster. I almost bought a 2016 Boxster in a very similar color. There are so many new rinseless washes coming out now days, I can't keep up with all of them. I used to keep an assortment of Rinseless washes on hand but I would have an entire cabinet full of them now days! It's crazy how many new detailing brands and products are coming out now days. It's the GOLDEN AGE of Detailing!
@@joevanseeters2873 One of my previous Porsches was a 968 cabriolet in AMAZON GREEN METALLIC. Everyone said it was blue. I would describe that color as the deep greens of the jungle reflected off the dark blue waters of the Amazon river. Like all things... over thinking in top gear!
You are right... combine the top quality products along with reliable demonstration videos on TH-cam and, yes, it could be the GOLDEN AGE of detailing.
Wild that you did not pre-rinse and it still was lubricating enough not to scratch . Just proof that this new tech is just better than the old soaps of our fathers. For detailers and dealerships there are not many bad options in the rinseless world anymore.
I'm sure that having a ceramic coating sure helps, but yes, rinseless wash is amazing chemistry and is getting better and better. It's great to see many of the companies continuing to evolve and revise their formula.
There must be a cult membership in the youtube detail community....everyone has a Porsche 😂😂
I'm an OG Porsche owner... bought my first one in 1998. A '93 968 Cabriolet for $25,000. After driving minivans for a decade or so... my wife spotted this '01 Boxster S on marketplace. $7,000 was a pretty good deal. Not a show car at all, but FUN to drive (and detail). This Boxster just rolled 50K on the odometer. These "fried-egg" headlight Porsches are about the only affordable ones out there that fit my price range.
What is up with the Bucket that Pan's product went into? LOL Everyone else looked to have a newer clean bucket.
@@johns4407 I have new buckets scheduled to arrive on Tuesday. To come up with 4 buckets (and somewhat color match with products) I used what I had on hand. That bucket has been around since the 90's.
Great video man, the demo is very well done and honest. Where did you get the pumps?
@willsridecare www.amazon.com/dp/B09SQFFG8V - Amazon - Coffee Syrup Pumps
Congratulations on your DIY Tuber spot. You are working with some great products and it'll be fun to see all of you grow along your journey!
Would be interesting to see which product works better when it comes to strictly cleaning power. Is there a way to test cleaning power without contact?! Hoping to choose one to use during our Canadian Salt & Grime winters!
The other brand that I'm looking forward to testing more as Winter hits is Labocosmetica. They have Preludio Acidic for inorganic/mineral contamination and Preludio Alkaline for organic/oil contamination. These are designed to be used with rinseless wash and do not require water to rinse away. I'm pretty sure that Preludio Acidic will be my go-to for knocking down the salt and then follow up with any of these four (and maybe try another couple as I am getting quite a few comments about more quality products out there).
If you watch the section where I zoom in after pre-spraying the Nemesis, there were some pretty good shots of how the dirt was lifted off the surface and just suspended in the rinseless wash beads. It's one of those shots that I didn't exactly aim to get... just noticed it while editing. Check around 17:31-17:44 - drop playback to .25 to see it better. 17:36 and 17:44 are the best examples. Some beads had very distinct pools of dirt in them, while a few beads were filled with small whispy clouds of dirt in suspension.
Great vid - thanks for the comparison of some of the highest profile rinse-less products on the market at the moment. Couple of suggestions for future vids.. 1. when doing comparisons, it might be easier to initially set out a list of criteria for each product to test against, not for point scoring but maybe to help you to clearly structure your own impressions/experiences and conclusions. 2. When commentating, just try to cut down on the umm’s and err’s. Thanks again 👍
@@scowil456 You are right on. There were plenty of more umm's in the cut footage. After trying my hand at video production for this first video, it really gives you an appreciation for the vloggers out there that make smooth, informative, and engaging videos. These early videos have been a bit painful to edit and I am most surprised to figure out I have an accent. I'm one state away from a full blown "you betcha"! Thanks for the feedback.
Very interesting video and while all 4 appear to be top notch rinseless washes, if Nemesis is as slick or slicker than the other 3, it may be the best when you look at price and how it appeared to flash off quicker. Nemesis is quite a bit cheaper than all those others which is really surprising.
I've used ADS Hero (and to be honest I didn't think it was super slick), P&S Absolute (It's slick, but tends to streak more and the pre-soak didn't clean as well as Hero or RRW), Koch Chemie RRW (might be my favorite so far, just need to use it a few more times) and I was looking to try Clean, Nemesis, DIY and Ethos, but after seeing this, I may just order a gallon of Nemesis and call it.
Thanks for the comparisons...
@@deadshrub I loved the combo of DIY v1 followed with Ceramic Gloss as a drying aid. When I tried a similar process with HERO, I was very disappointed. After watching a few more videos with HERO, I decided to nix the drying aid and started to realize that the hype was true. With the popularity of HERO, I believe it's a great baseline for comparison. You are right on the value, as well. Nemesis is almost half the cost of CLEAN Rinse-less Wash... WOW!
@@AMI_Detail maybe that was my problem.... I need to reuse hero w/o a drying aid. Have you tried RRW from Koch? it's another great one.
@deadshrub I have not tried ANY Koch Chemie products YET. I know there are some really good ones... I've been busy with DIY Detail, ADS, Labocosmetica, Chem-X, NXTZEN, and now throw in CLEAN and Detail Co... Too much of a good thing, eh?
@@AMI_Detail yeah, we spoiled for sure
@@deadshrubRRW is good 👍 definitely try nemesis and Clean rinseless. They are both impressive. Nemesis is my new favorite tho. Experience is great and the cleaning power.
Thanks for the vid . Quick observation. Couldn’t really hear you . Maybe try turning down the volume on the music when you’re talking.
@@againstthegrain5962 I picked up a mic for future videos. Thanks for the feedback.
Great content where do you get the measuring pumps for the top of the bottles and what do you call them?
@bpy4073 www.amazon.com/dp/B09SQFFG8V - Amazon - Coffee Syrup Pumps
What is your favorite of the four if you can only have one?
@@russbeatty7297 I have been using Nemesis for everything since the test. Interiors, windows, around the office, even mopped ceramic tile floor. I did pick up Koch Chemie's RRW as a couple of people had recommended it, but it was not for me. It seemed to be very grabby and not near the slickness of these four. I plan on trying Ethos Hybrid v3 and Phoenix EOD Hydra at some point.
Would it be best to use a foam sprayer vs a sprayer?
@@brandonnguyen1486 I've played around with foaming v1 of DIY Detail... works pretty well, but ultimately, just getting the chemical onto the surface is the goal.
@@AMI_Detail what's your favorite drying towel for rinseless washes? I hear a few waffle weave, and twisted loop like the dreadnaught
@@brandonnguyen1486 bunch of microfiber 365 towels are good
@@brandonnguyen1486I have both and my preference is the dreadnaught. I actually prefer having two medium sized (18 x 24) over one larger towel. Many times I only need one for a vehicle, but it's great to have the next one ready.
www.walmart.com/ip/Platinum-Series-Twisted-Terry-Microfiber-Super-Absorbent-Car-Drying-Cleaning-Towel-2-Count-Red-Gray/1974641571
Not sure if that link will work, but this pair of 1000 gsm, dual sided, twist loop microfiber drying towels are easily accessible and reasonable for $10 for the two pack.
Those are definitely in the top 5
What's your top 5? I am getting quite a few RRW and Ethos votes in the comments.
Where do you get the pumps at
@@meanf1502 www.amazon.com/dp/B09SQFFG8V - Amazon - Coffee Syrup Pumps
Huumm... Pan snuck his CLEAN product in there again! 😅
I thought it might be good to have a nobody (me) do a comparison. I tried to just demonstrate how each of the four rinseless washes compare. Both ADS HERO and DIY Detail's Rinseless Wash are quite popular and would be a good standard for comparison that many others have used. I really liked watching EC Details videos about various rinseless products, so I was on The House of Rags site early to get Nemesis on order... I was very surprised to see CLEAN. Rinse-less wash released on the same day... so I added it to my cart as well. My order was in around 9 am on Saturday, Sep 21. Around 10 am, I had decided to go with the whole line-up of CLEAN products as I was quite intrigued by his video that demonstrated his coating. I have had some waterspotting issues with another high end coating and thought the CLEAN 8-year coating might be a better solution. I haven't had time to get around to that one... but it's a longer term type of a test to evaluate a coating in real world situations.
I still just dont picture myself ever using rinsless and hate the sponge application but out of these....they all work, so I would have to go Detail Co for the win because the price point is half of these others approximately and it works just as good. I personally just don't see the time savings....slower to apply, still have to spray it on, let it dwell, and then have to towel dry instead of blowing. Tried a buddies rinseless and it was actually slower time wise than my typical method using a foam cannon. It has some uses like in super cold freezing weather or drought conditions I suppose. But you could just bucket wash the old way in those situations. I just don't see it as some incredible innovation worth investing much in like others do. I dont see it as superior in any way to foam rinse, foam, quick bead type of product, blow dry. I don't know any pro detailers in my area using it for anything either. We all look at it as a new youtube fad/obsession. I got interested in it for use on motorcycles but after testing on my own, went back to my old method.
@_Mailman That is the cool thing with all of these different companies bringing their A-game to the consumers... We all have options. Once you get setup with something that works, it's usually tweaking from there. For me, I hated dragging out a water hose, pressure washer, pressure hose, gun, foam cannon, mixing soap to water ratio for good foam action, rinsing everything down, getting water in all the anoying areas that just won't stop dripping, etc... BUT, I finally wall mounted the pressure washer(s), plumbed in the water supply, added a high pressure hose reel and it has made foaming fun again. The only downside for me is that this is outside only (as I have no indoor drain) and will be seasonal with freezing temps coming soon to Iowa. I am pretty sure I will end up foaming during the summer and rinseless washing in the winter. Keep enjoying what makes you happy!
Great comparison! I’d like to see your opinion on ethos hybrid rinseless that just released too. It’s very good!
I'll check it out!
If you like Nemesis, you will like Hydra also. Surfactant rinseless is my jam. Dry off is always better. High humidity, you will start losing patience for polymers. Those streaks you thought flashed off, will come back. Let's also realize, unless you used four drying towels, Nemesis was last, and still dried the best.
good vid man, thanks.
@waterhose4130 I also prefer the hybrid rinseless wash over polymer-heavy ones. I used the four different sides of the towel. Yes, by the end, it wasn't staying as neatly folded as I was flailing around with one hand and trying to record with the other. I've got some better tools for future videos.
@@AMI_Detail nah, nothing wrong with the video. A lot of you guys do a great job with one hand tied behind your back. I have bad leg and back issues after Covid, boo hoo right? I definitely look for products that just work well, and I don’t have to chase around to get an excellent result. A great pre wash, a great rinseless, great drying towels, easy to use toppers, it’s all a priority to me. I only have enough leg lately to not have to finesse a product, to get the best results from it. Products like Hydra & Nemesis, BC3, Griot’s Surface Wash, 303 Touchless Sealant for wheels, Darkside, all stuff I go to regularly. But, yes, I like to try new stuff, and coming from a small business family, I prefer the little guy who makes products, and actually are there to answer questions. Someone who cares if you, some nobody to them, actually has an opinion on what they sell.
Wipe off is extremely important to me. I don’t want to be pushing water around and leaving polymer spots all over the car. I tried Nemesis and it’s a great cleaner imo.
Like I keep saying. These top premium brands are all the same. Influencers have to stop saying X product is by far the best. It’s BS.
@davekeogh4870 YES! The results are all very similar. User experience is about the only difference... and not everyone cares about scents and the behavior on the panel... just so it gets the job done. Like Pan mentioned to me in one of his comments... much of this is for those who want to geek out on the details. For me, it's fun... overboard, sure, but still having fun doing it. The only other factor is what a product is leaving behind and that one is very difficult to confirm.
One cool thing about the comments are the ideas on different uses. Someone was looking for a drying aid, but didn't want it to leave anything masking the true benefit of their ceramic coating. So far, I mostly just see people using spray sealants as drying aids, which definitely are left behind. C6 Mist is probably the closest thing, but it is $30 per 16 oz bottle. Nemesis actually has this use case on their bottle. Nemesis is $10 per 16 oz bottle, but then you dilute it 64:1. That is 64(!) 16 oz bottles... for $10. That puts it at 16 cents per bottle! Good stuff, Maynard!
One thing I noticed with DIY V2 RW on a car that had no protection at all, the paint stayed wet a lot longer and it wasn’t as easy to dry off. The water just pooled on the surface. Granted it had tons of road film and hadn’t been cleaned in who knows how long. Afterwards the car looked 10x better and shinier. I can’t wait to try Nemesis. My car just went through hurricane Milton and there’s tons of road film on it. I also have Pans RW as well, if it’s good in the sun it may be my go to.
Glad your safe from the hurricane
@elonsus9747 It's heartbreaking to see the devastation from Milton. I'm glad you're safe.
You are right on with your analysis. The subtle differences is what made things interesting. Overall, these four products had outstanding results. Using them in different situations will probably make sense to use one over another to take advantage of the differences.
When discussion is a lot about scent, it shows how little difference there really is in getting the results. ONR and others are getting ignored in the constant focus on what's new.
Yes, the products are pretty equally effective. One thing that I really like about these products versus ONR or Absolute is that they are a mix of polymers and surfactants. ONR and Absolute are much heavier on the polymer spectrum. I prefer something that simply cleans and doesn't leave much (if anything) behind. I'm only going by what I've seen in other videos. Forensic Detailing and Mike G have some great videos about various rinseless products.
For me HERO is #1, DIY 2. Everything else is good but these both are great. Love using Absolute and ONR as well.
Gonna try Nemesis for their Black Friday sale!
@@jefferrrson1x Sounds like a plan. Happy rinseless washing!
Have you tried Phoenix EOD Hydra 3.0 or KCx RRW? I prefer them over Hero, although you definitely can’t go wrong with Hero or any of these! Like many have said, pick one or all and enjoy!
@@pNoyr3D That's another vote for Phoenix EOD. I'll add that to my list... But just starting with 16 oz! I did pick up Peleus and look forward to using that.
@@AMI_Detail 16oz will be more than enough to form an opinion and I have yet to try Peleus since I don’t really use panel preps too much, however I HIGHLY RECOMMEND Titan if you haven’t tried that yet.
@@pNoyr3D I ran out of DIY Detail Panel Prep and I needed some for prepping glass for coating and tire prepping for ADS Ghost. My order of Peleus came in just as I stretched the last few drops of DIY.
I'll check out some videos on Titan. Seems like I've seen quite a few Instagram reels featuring Titan.
The thing you see with diy and nemessis is the coating rejecting the rinseless. This means the car is clean and the coating underneath shines ;)
@FelixBouchardDetail Yes, rinseless (and traditional foam) acts differently on a coated surface. It's awesome that all of these products leave a clean car that lets the coating shine. I was trying to demonstrate the subtle differences as I have seen the same differences when using these products on my un-coated Bronco Sport. Just an observation... not really a performance difference. The only real differences that I saw was dry time, but again... very subtle and can be used to customize the situation.
I washed my daughter's car outside and in the sun... I went for CLEAN as it seems to hold up to those conditions a bit better. It just seemed to fit the situation. I don't have a comparison in that case, but I can report that it worked great and I still had to break it down into smaller sections as the sun on dark paint sure does bake things rather quickly.
Thanks for using DIY Detail Rinse Less Wash. You can’t go wrong with any of these products.
Great choices for a comparison video, and good job!! However, the background music was so annoying to me that I had to scroll forward to the results…..sorry. 😩
Noted! I'm playing around with sources and volumes.
Yes great comparing video but N°1 the annoying music and the music was too loud i had trouble hearing what you were saying about the products and N°2 NO MATTER HOW POSH IT IS YOU NEVER EVER USE A SPONGE ON CAR PAINT IT SCRATCHES IT
@nickevens3190 Thanks for the tips... I'm trying to source better music options AND working on the proper volumes. I'm also working on speaking more clearly and concisely.
As for the sponge... I encourage you to check out time stamp 17:36. It shows how the pre-spray encapsulates the dirt and lifts it into the beads of rinseless wash. By wringing out most of the liquid from the sponge, it still keeps some for lubrication and leaves room to soak up the rinseless that has the dirt floating inside of it. The sponge is simply glided along the surface and never used to scrub. It really is just a tool to transfer the chemical to and from the surface. The chemical is really what is doing the actual work. As with any tool... if it's used incorrectly, yes, it can scratch.
I've seen micro marring from people using dry microfiber on polished paint... I simply cringe when I see people going in dry, but there is also a misconception that water is a lubricant. Some people out there belive that rinsing off the dirt and then drying with a towel is a good thing. You have to have some level of lubrication for drying with a towel and some sort of chemical to clean effectively. The shampoo should do something similar to the rinseless and break the bond between the paint and the grime. Then you can use a wash mit to safely contact the paint. Again... just some things that I've seen over the years.
A fellow Iowan! Nice video. Happy to see an independent opinion with these products. Too many insider reviews or guys that review stuff that sell a certain group of products. My first rinseless wash was P & S Absolute and I liked it but over about 3 months it was separating out and that bugged me. Never sure if I was getting the proper amount of solids (which I assume are the polymers that help lubricate) to the more clear liquid. I recently started using ONR Version 5. It is ever so slightly less slick but it leaves less behind. Absolute had a very very slight haze under specific lighting. ONR dries faster though. Overall I am going to switch to ONR because it is homogenous....doesn't separate out like Absolute. I like consistency. Hoping Meguiar's releases a rinseless wash at SEMA 2024 in a few weeks.....with the market trend they are behind if they don't.
@dboenish Thanks for the comment, neighbor. These rinseless wash products are all so good, but you really don't find ANY on retail shelves. Maybe if the big boys would pay attention to what all of these start-ups are doing, rinseless wash options would be offered to a larger buying group. There are many detailers out there that only shop local and therefore have very limited options.
I truly believe what Eddie and Jamie are doing with thehouseofrags.com will expand the availability to that many more around the World. Having discount bundles that you can mix and match from different companies, mean you could get four great products at a very reasonable price.
Still, not the same as walking into a store and walking out with instant gratification knowing you are heading home to use your new product that afternoon. SPOILER ALERT: You usually end up with inferior products and actually pay more than if you just wait for the good stuff.
The music was terrible and annoying. Too loud and unnecessary especially during your testing. Bad stuff out of the way, thanks for the video. Good luck in the future. Giving you a sub to see where it goes.
@BrownCoatFan Thanks for the feedback and the sub. I am working on the editing side to find a better balance of demonstration versus time.
God the tempo and tone of this video makes it unbearable to watch.
Sorry, Rob. I'll try to do better in future videos.
@@AMI_Detaillol dont apologize and never change…the true fans love you as you are 🤘🏽🐿️💨