What planet are you on if you think the mundane world is just fine the way it is?

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  • Sure we have to accept the suffering that comes our way in life. If we can't accept it then it will only make the pain worse and we it might even drive us mad. But to suggest that the world is just fine the way it is is crazy. And besides if we don't think there is any room for improvement then we have no reason to better our self.
    The Buddha taught that the first thing we need to do is recognise suffering and that is because our suffering and pain can help us develop and is the principal cause for entering the #spiritualpath

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  • @miguelangelous
    @miguelangelous 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    “A sign that your spiritual path is progressing, is that you have a even greater empathy for others. Not that you just become cold!”
    ~ Lama Choga

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      I am being quoted now! 😆🤣😆

    • @josephsonoftheuniverse5541
      @josephsonoftheuniverse5541 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ultimatemeaning calm down even Yogi bear is quoted
      Smarter than the average bear
      ~chief Joseph brown 🐻 😂🙏

  • @theUnmanifest
    @theUnmanifest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The "me" that judges "this is good, this is bad" is conditioned.
    You have to go further, beyond the conditioned mind to find true, unconditional freedom.
    This will be the beginning of the Non-returner journey.
    The view that the world or anything is good or bad is but a view.
    Enlightenment is the freedom from all views, which are only individual perspectives, lens that awareness can look through.
    This is not cold, it is only clear seeing, non-deluded seeing, which is the only true love as it is truly unconditional.
    Bless you 🌞💖

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Enlightenment is freedom from all views but we ordinary beings most definitely hold views (of good and bad) and pretending we don't have these views leads to many dangerous and negative consequences, one of these is becoming cold hearted.
      More productive to be honest with one self, i.e.) I experience suffering, and then look for the solution to suffering rather than accept a philosophic position that one doesn't understand or believe and then try to fabricate one's personal conduct to accord with that fabrication.
      One of the consequences is that people become spiritual zombies, insensitive to the suffering of others, or they experience denial
      Of course it would be great to meet a being that has gone beyond views but I haven't seen any indication of such beings (and that doesn't mean I don't believe they exist).
      🙏🙏🙏

    • @Neo1234567890111
      @Neo1234567890111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      To become cold hearted you also need a view.

  • @FullShade
    @FullShade 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    We must accept suffering we cannot control but we must not accept evil. Enduring evil only perpetuates it.

  • @katierose1893
    @katierose1893 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I went to a Zen monastery named Tassajara in California in 2011. It was life changing. I was in my late 20s and idealist but it was a taste of utopia. Communal cooking, cleaning, eating, meditation. The real world is suffering but the contrast made it even more special. I was young and times were good. Now I’ve experienced and felt suffering and have matured but I miss that feeling of optimism. The joy always ends in sadness. I then had a child and it was the best years of my life and also the scariest as the thought of him growing up and leaving the home feels like death. Anything that is good ends and the memories are that much more intense knowing that remembering them brings suffering but forgetting them means death. I’m one of the lucky ones who has lots of time and still time passes so quickly. I almost want to numb myself with trivial mainstream vices to not feel everything so intensely.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you for sharing your story with our small community. May peace and happiness be you uninterrupted experience

  • @donellacurley4941
    @donellacurley4941 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Every day I look forward to listening to your words of wisdom. Thank you so much for sharing Dear Lama Choga.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are too kind Donella I am not sure I deserve you praise but thank you anyway

    • @donellacurley4941
      @donellacurley4941 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning 💐

  • @millenialmemoirs
    @millenialmemoirs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The planet I live on is the version of earth I manifest. I take responsibility for the reality I perceive. I see pain in the world, I control what I can control. My bubble within reality is rich with blessings. I work to grow that bubble out and bring others into it.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Interesting, are you saying that everybody only experiences their personal version of the world? If so how can one bubble grow to encompass another? Thanks for sharing 🙏🙏🙏

    • @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ
      @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ultimatemeaningI remember a story about Maitreya, possibly one of his disciples (name I don't recall) meditating in solitude in a mountain cave. Possibly the one where he gives up periodically and meets various people doing futile things such as the man rubbing an iron bar with silk to make a needle (demonstrating the futility of the mundane) and so the disciple returns to his cave, eventually after many years he leaves the cave makes his way to the road and finds a dying dog in great pain. He lifts the dog to his shoulders to carry it to town to try to help it and it turns out to be Maitreya, who he can now see from this growth in compassion
      (Bear with me it's half remembered)
      So he gets to town with Maitreya on his shoulder, excited to show everyone
      But because the rest of the townsfolk are not purified by years of meditation, they only see a dead dog
      Read it in a book from Samye Ling in Scotland, so it was Tibetan, and the message I get is that different people do see the same things in different ways, according to whoever wrote that

    • @mikiyastadesse8408
      @mikiyastadesse8408 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You honestly think ur in control of ur life? Hahah

    • @millenialmemoirs
      @millenialmemoirs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mikiyastadesse8408 When a fool laughs, it is like thorns crackling in a fire. It doesn't mean a thing.

    • @measlesplease1266
      @measlesplease1266 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You ain't doing a very good job.

  • @daren9718
    @daren9718 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Very Nice Talk Lama Choga. It came from the Heart.

  • @ianrediker2598
    @ianrediker2598 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Of all the Common Sense videos I've watched here, this by Far is one that really makes you contemplate what suffering you and the rest of the world should be facing head on in the moment. ( Actual ) Bodhichitta takes Work, but like these heavy traumatic experiences mentioned here can actually be a quicker path to transformation than diligent Buddhist Refuge training.
    Thank you for continuing to keep "it' real !
    🙏

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, yes! The term Bodhisattva means "Champion of the enlightened mind" they courageously wade head long into suffering for the sake of others leaving all self concern behind in their dust! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @insanezenmistress
    @insanezenmistress 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You are a kind man. Taking on the flood of those high "teachings" proliferating on the you tubes. I find them gross. "Yeah sure we really spirits having a human experience" They say.
    Yes ok....now why do you chose to let your false human form kick your butt so much?
    Those "spiritual" dream sellers can tell you all the lovely things that humans have come up with over all their acid trips, But have any of their followers learned sovereignty, or gained such an access to "the lovely things" that they gain independence?
    And that's why i love you. Wish you so much good so you can keep encouraging others to get ready , gear up and take the best trip of their lives. By the way, the time i spent perusing and contemplating your teachings, and the few words we shared, have helped me with my Lama Karma.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow! That sounds like a result "Lama KArma" is a really tough one to get right@ 🙏🙏🙏

  • @zanthar7782
    @zanthar7782 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very true words lama, we must try liberating sentient beings in the mundane world, cultivate bodhichitta and change things

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amen to that my friend! 🙏🙏🙏

    • @zanthar7782
      @zanthar7782 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning 🙏🙏🙏

  • @snoutysnouterson
    @snoutysnouterson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Why is reality so cruel? Why do we need to live countless lives, suffering for no reason? Wouldn't we all be fine if we were never born?

    • @Jakub98x
      @Jakub98x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Just because something can be unpleasant at times doesn't mean it's not worth experiencing. You can change your life by working on yourself.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Cruelty has to do with intention and reality (or appearance) are not sentient. The answer (according to the Buddha ) can be found in this video:
      th-cam.com/video/TZjGm6sVjvY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=U2nPusG6ObawcH86

    • @snoutysnouterson
      @snoutysnouterson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ultimatemeaning Thank you. I'll watch it now.

    • @snoutysnouterson
      @snoutysnouterson 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Jakub98x You are looking at life from a the perspective of a very privileged human being, life is 90% suffering for almost all animals. Changing yourself in any significant way is almost impossible. The vast majority of people are not even aware that you can change yourself, and enlightenment is also almost impossible, even for people with the best teachers and opportunities.

    • @Jakub98x
      @Jakub98x 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@snoutysnouterson life is suffering, no shit sherlock. Blockages are only in your mind especially when you say you can't do something. Anything you gonna say not gonna stop me from working on myself, one of meanings of life is to improve, it's fundamental. I've changed myself a lot in 5+ years. From basement looser fapper to someone i can be kinda proud of but being proud of myself is not enough to stop working on myself. Only physical death can stop me from doing that.

  • @domovoi_0
    @domovoi_0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Absolutely. This is one reason I dislike stoics. Glad to find you.
    Love and blessings!

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Please to meet you too! I must read up more about stoicism, it seems to have become popular in recent times.

    • @domovoi_0
      @domovoi_0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ultimatemeaningThe video - stoicism is holding you back by kaal raam covers the topic well.
      Thank you for the response.

  • @AlexandarShmex
    @AlexandarShmex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can attest to a great increase of empathy and compassion being a sign of serious practice. I practice in an integral/eclectic way, but it's mostly Buddhist in nature (Shamatha/Vipassana), but there's also Prayer and Pranayama/breath work. Even before starting my practice (in mid 2019.) I considered myself a compassionate and empathetic man, but looking back on it now, the level or quality of my compassion was so much lower. I've also come to conclusion that it comes from understanding, when you understand "yourself", how the mind operates, how the personality is formed and how it's all empty of substance, you understand that every other human being is the same, with the same Buddha Nature as it's base.
    Now, even when done wrong by someone, when someone is rude, corrupt, or even evil, there's understanding of how it came to it. That doesn't mean that the behavior is excused or not corrected, I'm not a doormat, but there's understanding and compassion. Nobody wants to be angry, delusional, rude, insecure, corrupt, it's just the program they operate through.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Alexandar thank you for sharing your story and so glad to hear your compassion is blossoming!

  • @ninaallchurch3101
    @ninaallchurch3101 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your sincere, clear and earnest guidance is like summer rain - nourishing, soothing and gentle, Choga. Wishing you blessings for everything you do for others. Even though it's through video, you have SO much wisdom to share with westerners. Thank you.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Nina for your kind words! ♥♥♥

  • @SARASTANLEY-dg2wu
    @SARASTANLEY-dg2wu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you. Very powerful. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My pleasure Sara! 🙏🙏🙏

    • @SARASTANLEY-dg2wu
      @SARASTANLEY-dg2wu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We really are fortunate to have you back in this crazy world. Nothing else like it on YT. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SARASTANLEY-dg2wu You really are too kind Sara I don't deserve your praise 😊

    • @SARASTANLEY-dg2wu
      @SARASTANLEY-dg2wu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @richardsnyder6413
    @richardsnyder6413 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Gratitude 🙏

  • @RobertKempf122
    @RobertKempf122 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whenever I hear such stories I realize that I am a weak man who has never gone through anything.

  • @lazitazen6882
    @lazitazen6882 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you ❤ I needed to listen to this today

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am glad I could be part of your needs! ♥

  • @Psybur
    @Psybur 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Sadhguru said you can either become wounded or wiser by life’s difficulties.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So true ! 🙏🙏🙏

    • @vito3510
      @vito3510 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wounded nah I rather say scarred .Wounds heals .Scars remind you of painful memories you can work with scars to either get over it or not get over it (events that happened in the past causing scars in you). pseudo guru great marketing entrepreneur businessman Sadhguru such a nice guy seems wise .

  • @raykeller6693
    @raykeller6693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good expression. Lots of truth. Thanks. It may be worth a mention that the fault cannot be found in the thing to which one is addicted: but it’s always in our own weakening will-power, as we assume the wrong relationship to it, and allow it too much if our lusting attention. Attitude is everything.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for bringing this up because this is the fundamental point. Appearances aren't the important thing by subjectivity. And so the solution is to train the mind to positivity. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @coconutmilch2351
    @coconutmilch2351 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree with you on the world being full of suffering. But I don’t know how to help the world. The idea of loving kindness is so abstract and theoretical to me, and I don’t know how to put it into action as to actually help others. And even a lot of the things I do seem like hypocritical acts. For ex I think it’s terrible what people are doing to the indigenous people of Indonesia, mining their forests for lithium. But I use lithium batteries, because lithium is more efficient at storing solar power, which I use to live. And of course loving kindness can be localized too, it doesn’t have to stretch all the way to Indonesia, but I find it difficult now in society as everyone seems so autonomous and there seems to be this great barrier between people.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Coco it is predicated on the notion that the apparent world is a result of personal karmic imprinting. Without a belief in karma (mundane view) then loving kindness still makes sense because obviously if everyone had altruism there would never be war and people would always look out for each other when in need, also we would never take advantage of those without a voice like the indigenous and disenfranchised

    • @coconutmilch2351
      @coconutmilch2351 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ultimatemeaningI believe in karma and I still don’t understand how to practice loving kindness because every little gesture I make in life seems to be completely hypocritical. I guess I don’t even know how to live without causing harm to others, much less spread loving kindness. (Like my usage of lithium, my eating of soy beans and bananas, these monoculture foods which wipe out forests) I don’t think even Greta Thunberg can live completely without guilt in that sense. She crossed an ocean on a sailboat and having lived on a sailboat I know there is nothing innocent about it. You see? Like I’m leaving my karmic footprint left and right of little misdeeds. If I were ignorant of these misdeeds, then I would only suffer the repercussions in a long delayed sort of way, but being aware makes me suffer twice as much since I have no solution.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@coconutmilch2351 Hi CoCo, the path is called the path because it is traversed one step at a time. It is taught that once you are born in Samsara you have no choice but to be complicit in the suffering of others.
      The solution in the Buddha Dharma at least is to transcend the mundane world, and for that there are many different methods, Bodhicitta is just one. And the first practice is relative Bodhicitta (thant means faking it) and the first step of relative Bodhicitta is aspirational Bodhicitts.
      I covered this topic in this series of videoa if you want to have a look:
      th-cam.com/play/PLu8Rw0r4aAhQlxR879XgovOJy3cj-Oz6p.html
      ♥🧡💛

    • @coconutmilch2351
      @coconutmilch2351 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ultimatemeaning”no choice but to be complicit in the suffering of others” - is it weird that I find this statement extremely relieving?! It makes me feel the opposite of gaslit…like, truth-lit maybe 😂 thank you for the videos playlist I’m going to look at them!!

  • @michaelrainbow4203
    @michaelrainbow4203 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can deny the separate existence of good and evil and can confirm with my mind that there is only one, eternal consciousness from which both good and evil emanate. But what of my heavy heart, the knot in my throat, and the weeping which at times overwhelms me? The body doesn't lie. Being in this world HURTS. It is painful

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes Michael this is the main point that nearly everyone misses- Conceptually understanding high views does nothing to transform our fundamental character, through practice we must develop insight and realisation otherwise the dry words are of little use ♥♥♥

  • @bishopoftheeternalsun4504
    @bishopoftheeternalsun4504 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you for your guidance and insight

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Bishop 🙏🙏🙏

  • @Happy_Limpet
    @Happy_Limpet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thankyou , i always listen more than once .
    Sometimes i wonder if human suffering was amplified when the globe Earth was taken as the truth , did humanity go on a less philosophical path because of it and become more materialistic .
    Great talk once again .

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      materialism is in the opposite hemiphpere from spirituality

  • @jdot429
    @jdot429 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you

  • @Magnetar_StarHeart
    @Magnetar_StarHeart 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So i see this title and am in mild contemplation about your trolling video.
    As we stated there, we could explore some unique aspects considering trolling.
    Of course, nothing as a justification. But we find ourselves to mirror or pushback on some peoples behaviors that are of the more unsavory side.
    I myself have been blessed with unique humor. Humor is one of my own secrets to life and longevity.
    We recognize certain patterns and behaviors that we portray in which are not ok or always justified.
    At the same time, we push some boundaries and test others or pushback on the unnaturally cruel types with humor trolling. Whil also always practcing in unconditional love. Empathasizing the practice aspect.
    In daily living, we always attempt to inspire and share kindness and gratitude with most all we meet.
    At the same time, if every "good" erson was passive to evil in an attempt to be wholly benevolent. "Bad" people would be unchallenged and only further engage in unsavory acts.
    I dont believe myself that source wills us all to be spiritual peaceful and passive masters. For source is all thing's and beings. And so perhaps works through some of us in unique ways.
    At the same time..some of that pushback is probably attached to some forms of internal suffering and hence is not necessarily effective or appropriate....
    🌟💖🫶💪

  • @chromakey84
    @chromakey84 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a beautiful teaching thank you

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey you are very kind thank you

  • @Fritzadood
    @Fritzadood หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive believed for a long time that happiness can be found anywhere, but that doesn't mean it couldnt be easier to find! ;p

  • @stephenwilson9872
    @stephenwilson9872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you are saved slready

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Stephen, let's just say I am working on it! 😆🤣😆

  • @between666
    @between666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I went to the conference centre to grow spiritually that means peeling off the layers off a onion until the sweet bulb is found. It was like everything on earth didn't want me to go. The little interruptions were not my imagination. I learnt about comfort zones and the stagnation.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Both of these (falling into our comfort zones and into stagnation) are some of the biggest pitfalls on the path!

  • @saintsword23
    @saintsword23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm not sure I fully agree. I think what I have an objection to is mostly the idea of going out of one's way to help others (which to be fair, I'm not sure if that's what you mean by having greater empathy or if just being gentle with people is enough). Here's why:
    1. The only way for people to escape suffering is to get on the path of meditation and denying the will. But, to be direct and a little gruff, people simply don't like having their ideas about reality and the world fucked with. It doesn't work. Trying to get people on this path is truly a fool's errand and I know because I've tried! Even if I'm gentle, and very logical it doesn't matter. People don't want to hear it.
    2. The other alternative is to try and fulfill people's will by giving them stuff or serving them, but this doesn't really help them progress toward to ending their suffering permanently. It's just a temporary reprieve from grosser suffering into slightly more subtle suffering. And from there people just continue their suffering in their mundane world. The net benefit is rather nothing in the grand scheme of things.
    3. The only benefit I've seen to helping others is in confronting my own selfishness. But even there meditation is simply more efficient. A one week retreat will clear out far more sankharas than months of volunteer work.
    Thank you for any response in advance. I'm just giving my experience here, and why I've found that being gentle and compassionate with people is almost a given, but going out of one's way to help doesn't seem very fruitful.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a common misconception. The benefit of giving rise to compassion is primarily for oneself and not for others but we can see that if everyone in the world was an altruist things would be a hell of a lot easier right?
      And here is the reason- as it is taught in the Way of the Bodhisattva (Shantideva): All of the suffering in the world how ever much there is, all of it comes from the desire for one's own happiness, all of the well being in the world how ever much there is, all of it comes from the wish for the happiness of other.
      The claim made by the Buddha was that craving was the cause of suffering or more specifically (as is taught in the Mahayana) self-clinging. Bodhicitta (loving kindness compassion) is taught to be the supreme method for achieving awakening becase it is the most effective means of reducing self concern.
      For more detail please refer to this playlist:
      th-cam.com/play/PLu8Rw0r4aAhQlxR879XgovOJy3cj-Oz6p.html

    • @saintsword23
      @saintsword23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning I think what you're saying is that while trying to help people may often be ineffective, you do it for yourself, as raising loving-kindness in the mind is the most effective means to reducing the natural focus on the self that keeps us in samsara. Is that about right?
      I'll check out the playlist.

  • @omfgacceptmyname
    @omfgacceptmyname 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i have wondered if suffering is inextricably necessary for growth

  • @jessicapatton2688
    @jessicapatton2688 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is as we are! Love! Make it beautiful!

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes Love and make it beautiful! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @robertkneisel1360
    @robertkneisel1360 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been thinking a great deal about "good and evil" and the difference between necessary and unnecessary suffering recently. How, it can be both true that everything that happens is karma, and yet we see unnecessary suffering and invariably call it "evil". It seems to me, to be part of the experience of being, as we are here and now as humans beings. It does make me think of the garden of Eden story, though I am not a Christian, if anything it is a religion I harbor resentment towards, as it was the one I was raised in and then left as a teenager because I was disillusioned by it. That human beings create these concepts and attach them to the things they experience, directly or indirectly. That this is a large part of what it means to be a human being at all, to no longer be "of the natural world" or rather to feel separate from it, as the idea of unnatural or supernatural are mostly just descriptive judgements about how reality is ordered, rather than the reality of the situation.
    Thanks, probably going to be watching a lot of your videos today, as I suffer and contemplate and hopefully find some meditative peace, when I am able.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Robert for sharing your inner most feelings.
      In terms of the Buddha Dharma at least then recognition of suffering is the most important first step. Also romanticising a pure human past and longing for that is a distraction from the truth of existence.
      Lots of love
      ♥🧡🧡

    • @robertkneisel1360
      @robertkneisel1360 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning thank you for the reply, and the videos. And, sorry for writing you a novel across a dozen video comments. I figure at worst, it is helping me work out what I have going on in my head, engaging with your content. And, I feel as if that is something you do not mind.

  • @grey6063
    @grey6063 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Life will flow the way life will flow….

  • @WilliamBurke-ri1sl
    @WilliamBurke-ri1sl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome William pleased to meet you!

  • @BalancedChaosJT
    @BalancedChaosJT หลายเดือนก่อน

    🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @gracegladden3279
    @gracegladden3279 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thankyou, I couldn't agree more with your opening gambit. The mundane is not fine, never was, and never will be. And so much 'backlit screen' entertainment - is all about delving into our mundane world - to reveal just how damaging it is. And now, I'm going to listen to your video. Thankyou for it. Grace (my name)

    • @gracegladden3279
      @gracegladden3279 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unfortunately, the only thing I agreed with was your opening statement. Your delivery of your message - was that of a disillusioned, unhappy man. And from such a base, nothing good arises. Let others do the peptalks online for a while.

    • @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ
      @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gracegladden3279the guy is in pain
      Doesn't mean we have to add to it, but don't forget Tibetan Buddhism includes Tong Len
      Anyway I'm in broad agreement with you
      Earlier I posted a comment on a story I read in a Tibetan Dharma book years ago, and either it didn't make it to the server, or it got deleted, possibly by the good Lama
      I'm not even sure if he's decided I'm also intolerable 😮
      Have I been ghosted? Can you see this?

    • @gracegladden3279
      @gracegladden3279 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ I can see it

    • @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ
      @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gracegladden3279 well, that's something, thank you

  • @tasha24-7
    @tasha24-7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🌺 thank you so much

  • @matthewchavezm.b.s5503
    @matthewchavezm.b.s5503 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could it be that we are all taking turns experiencing different levels of joy and sorrow simply to give each other the different perspective of how it feels to either go through the experience or to see someone else go through it.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Buddhism their is no divine plan as such but what is certain is that we CAN benefit from our experience in such a way. However it is quite clear that most do not and simply try to find someone or something else to blame for their suffering

  • @JvicyKisses
    @JvicyKisses 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very somber.
    Well put.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your vote of confidence friend!

  • @AnacreonSchoolbagsJr
    @AnacreonSchoolbagsJr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't think there are many people out there who think everything is going fine out there, there are just a multitude of narratives concerning what exactly the problem is and how to grapple with the issues. When two narratives conflict, people who rely on either narrative for comfort and psychological wellbeing will tend to minimize and ignore the issues pointed to by their opponents. It's relatively rare for people to realize that they are arguing over insubstantial, practically imaginary beliefs.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All conflict is rooted in ignorance! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with the community! 🙏🙏🙏 and pleased to meet you

  • @mapetlv
    @mapetlv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    🙏

  • @MarsAttacksMemoirs108
    @MarsAttacksMemoirs108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You so much
    🙏🙏🙏

  • @heartwellroots5365
    @heartwellroots5365 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How to renounce the entire US gov. while also living in the US?

  • @titussteenhuisen8864
    @titussteenhuisen8864 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The mundane world is ruled by / influenced by alien habits. A way to cope; all is blessing

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My old friend also believes that the world is controlled by alien (lizards)

  • @Hunter_EagleConsumesSerpent
    @Hunter_EagleConsumesSerpent 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just the title makes a lot of sense.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Hunter. Some people think there is happiness on MArs! 😆🤣😆

  • @PowerPawaa
    @PowerPawaa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m in my 20s and can’t imagine living till my 60s. Definitely going to unalive whenever I get the balls / money runs out. Absolute waste being here for nothing. I haven’t found a single thing that warrants staying here. Non existence is true freedom

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bodhisattvas willingly hurl themselves into the mundane world to help guide the suffering beings to realising the truth of emptiness. Your revulsion for the mundane world is the direct cause for developing the awakening mind. Once you apply this understanding to the plight of the countless sentient beings drowning in the relentless ocean of Samsara you will give rise to the courage to liberate beings.

    • @Johnmountainstone
      @Johnmountainstone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You will change a lot. 20s can be very challenging. Find something you are good at and enjoy. Focus on that. There is always the option to end it but that causes pain that echoes out. Best not to do that.

    • @andybrown3016
      @andybrown3016 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes the world is painful and yes it can often feel unbearable. From your statement it’s clear you have some very negative conditioning just like myself. The only answer I have found is to be as aware and attentive to everything that happens in the present moment. As in meditation there are brief moments when the mind is completely still and empty and there is a warm feeling of peace and happiness. This is because the mind is quiet. The obvious conclusion is that this must be my true nature but when the mind is active it projects us outwards away from our inherent happiness. Restlessness is mind. Recognise that thoughts are simply mental static from past experiences. They have no inherent reality and yet for almost everyone they dictate our life experience giving us our own distorted worldview. Your world is your own projection and only exists in your own imagination. Spend as much time as you can watching your mind and noticing how your thoughts colour your world. Detachment is key. With meditation and mindfulness you learn to become more aware of the present moment and thoughts gradually slow and lose their hold over you.
      Anytime a thought arises whether good or bad watch it and realise yourself as the watcher not the thinker. The only enemy to be defeated is the mind. All these negative thoughts about your life and future don’t belong to you. There is no individual there. There are only memories and habits superimposed over awareness which give the illusion of you being a separate entity. Reality is only one.

  • @hatenasjunjou4651
    @hatenasjunjou4651 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for appearing on my feed, worth exploring
    However I think the fundamental problem we would need to understand isn't just the soothing of the fact that there's "no other way".
    Instead, its whatever we're growing into is truly, truly worth it, instead of whatever thing we're imagining we'd rather have.
    Can you imagine an already decent man who'd rather just have is family, somehow becoming more decent and empathetic when there's no other way?
    Because I can't, truly.
    Why employ his service to make the world a better place through this method of "necessary harm"?
    To try and understand this makes apathy, or like me, a pure resentful denial, whereas truly believing it would give empathy, I think.
    I can see him choosing to understand that this outcome is best for everyone (including all of them who were home), so empathy grows and he spends his time helping others so there's more wellbeing in the world.
    But I can't see him understanding that this outcome is more necessary than all their desires of wellbeing. Thats the cold view, isn't it? "Thats just karma, its gotta be this way" outlook?
    Also thanks if anyone bothered with these thoughts, good luck all

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The point the Buddha is making is that there is another way and there is always room for improvement. Our habitual tendency is to put one's own concerns over those of others and because of this there is a lot of unnecessary suffering in the world. Just imagine what the world would be like if everyone was an altruist.
      Also the Buddha refutes the idea that "this is just the way things are, there is nothing one can do about it" The buddha taught that the world is made by our actions, good and bad. And that virtue leads to well being and non virtue to suffering. Further as it is taught in the Way of the Bodhisattva (Shantideva): All of the suffering in the world how ever much there is, all of it comes from the desire for one's own happiness, all of the well being in the world how ever much there is, all of it comes from the wish for the happiness of other.
      So we have a choice- give up selfishness or live with the consequences
      Thank you for sharing your thoughts
      🙏🙏🙏

    • @hatenasjunjou4651
      @hatenasjunjou4651 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ultimatemeaning thanks for the introduction to this kind of thought, have a good day

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hatenasjunjou4651 My pleasure friend!

  • @Cyberpunk_Radio_PBS
    @Cyberpunk_Radio_PBS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally a buddhist that can articulate complex philosophies

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not sure I have any unique capabilities but i appreciate your vote of confidence my friend! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @DougDeYoung-gt4id
    @DougDeYoung-gt4id 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ever wonder why the ancient great monasteries were built on the highest mountains, off the side of the steepest cliffs, with really big freaking walls? I don't, look around do you think it can be fixed? My neighbors are Rinpoche lineage and I see how they act just going to the grocery store. They don't fool me I see how they shield themselves from the world.

  • @jeanthornton2107
    @jeanthornton2107 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @davidmickles5012
    @davidmickles5012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    • There is limitless consciousness (deepest awareness) which is the level of 'pure being' ("sattva") beyond the intellect. This is the inner most fundamental essence or essential nature of all conscious beings and all that exists or appears to exist.
    • Then there is mind (the conceptual mind which names experience - "nama") which is the intellect or thought, and this is the "subtle body" (subject-self) which experiences "objects" of perception (other than self). This is the state between matter or "form" and pure consciousness which gives rise to the sense of individuality or the "ego-self" ("jiva" or "I, me, mine").
    • Then there is the physical or material body which is the ego-self's attached and identified form ("rupa") and experiential plane (world) that is the result of karma.
    And so there is "sattva" (pure being/consciousness), then "nama" (mind, subject), then "rupa" (form, object, matter) from our perspective.
    But from the ultimate perspective there is only "sattva" (pure being or limitless consciousness). Only sattva ("Shiva") is (exists), and all that issues forth from that still point by means of it's inherent potential or energy ("Shakti") is illusory ("Maya").
    ParamShiva ("Shiva," aka "consciousness") is all there is.
    And this includes within it the innate (and eternal) potential "to be" - which is the energy ("Shakti") that produces or "gives birth to" experience (experience = "Maya," the illusion of an objective and distinct world/life "out there").
    Now, no place in this "formula" is there mention nor room for "neglect" or "indifference" to suffering. In fact, the whole point of this is to relieve suffering. And by "relieving suffering" we mean engaging with those who experience suffering on each of those levels - both "physical" and "mental."
    The point of the spiritual path is to relieve suffering. To relieve suffering one must recognize it acknowledge and accept it as a fact of OUR experience.
    Coldness, indifference, apathy, neglect are not really part of the spiritual path. They are temporary traps or "dead ends" that are illusory states of mind.
    Within each moment there is purity, quietude, stillness, voidness at its center. But we dont notice it. And so we lose ourselves in the movement, the energy, the temporary form, and then we believe in that "illusion." The suffering is still suffering be it sourced from illusion or not.
    Yet we have to engage in that movement because life = movement... and loss and even suffering.
    So love in each and every moment, bring love, and in each movement.. engage.
    But also, notice the peace that is at its center.
    If you can do that you are on the spiritual path.
    ❤🙏

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Within each moment there is purity", "ring love, and in each movement." Amen to that David! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @mandragon8108
    @mandragon8108 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5 seconds in.
    Fine/good/bad is a value judgment. The world is to be looked at as a school or a purgatory; not something to be changed. It's an illusion anyway!
    It's up to you to let go of judgments and indignation; only then will you see it as perfect. Not just fine, but perfect!
    But yeah, that's hard, that's spiritual work. It's easier to be a fake Alibaba online Buddhist.

    • @ISHALLPREVAIL_
      @ISHALLPREVAIL_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is the comment that got deleted or hidden or whatevwr 😅... -> Be careful calling people challenging social norms and society to grow as a "spiritual troll". Religous wars bring about questions, such as Christopher Hitchens who wrote books and had college debates. All these new terms that are not real words or terms only feed the leftist paradigm that masquerades as liberalists when they are really just communists. If someone identifies as spiritual who is anyone to tell them any different? Lets not be hypocrites. Anyone can just as easily call anyone else a spiritual troll or a misled individual based on them simply being sensitive. In reality the Pope himself with all his ties to corruption can be called a spiritual troll and yet he has millions of followers. Do You not see that? Or maybe you are not learned enough or maybe you are too sensitive or maybe or maybe or maybe not open minded enough or maybe or maybe --_--... you see? What upsets you is just your teacher --_ ... hmmm rhetorical. Let me make this clearer, i am trying to make you think, i am not a "troll". Thank you💯

  • @twttatl
    @twttatl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The world passeth away and that there of in this world we will have tribulation but take courage JESUS has overcome the world

  • @sugarfree1894
    @sugarfree1894 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hardly anyone thinks it's 'fine'. But we think it's in our nature to create the difficulties and unnecessary suffering. We think it's our nature to not be able to work it all out so that it's better for everyone. We think we're weak and selfish. We wish we weren't but we believe we are. Most of us just try to find ways to live with that.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the title was in response to claims that everything is just fine the way it is (e.g. it is the will of god or somehow its fine because they have heard the term nondual) but I get your point🙏🙏🙏

    • @sugarfree1894
      @sugarfree1894 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning Om Ah Hung Benzar Guru Pema Siddhi Hung

  • @BAsed_AFro
    @BAsed_AFro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How are any of us really giving back anything?

  • @AzmialPrime
    @AzmialPrime 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Just wanted to say hello from me and the Bois. Can't wait for another amazing talk. 🐕‍🦺🙏📿🐕‍🦺

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah let's chose a day but we need to check the weather first this time !😆🤣😆

    • @AzmialPrime
      @AzmialPrime 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ultimatemeaning LOL no, I meant YOUR talk in like 2 hours! 🤦‍♂

  • @1Infeqaul1
    @1Infeqaul1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only natural compassion resonates with Heaven. I do not except the bad. For it never stops, not until nothing will be living on this earth. That is the nature of bad. Evil is action and only action can prevent evil from acting. Do nothing, and regret and guilt will destroy you. That is our true nature. Even evil regrets in the end.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So true friend we must stand up for love at all times! 🙏🙏🙏

    • @cecilyt006
      @cecilyt006 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That HITS. Thank you for sharing that.

  • @danwilkinson2797
    @danwilkinson2797 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I try to use my suffering for as many things as possible it can become a spiritual Swiss army knife .

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey great idea! we all need a spiritual swiss army knife!

  • @justinbyrge8997
    @justinbyrge8997 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is no good and bad - this is correct. However, you'd be greatly mistaken if you think harm, beneficiality, and neutrality doesn't exist.
    Thinking in terms of good and bad are subjective and not very good for navigating life. However, thinking in terms of harmful, beneficial, and neutral will help to navigate life more successfully.

  • @gunkwretch3697
    @gunkwretch3697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really liked what you had to say, but my problem is the anger I feel towards those who are destroying the environment, dealing with Western egos, when is it appropriate for a wrathful Buddha?

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The issue is that anger burns up our minds and we are then unable to find inner peace. Wrathful deities aren't associated with human anger or falling under the power of our emotions. Wrathful deities destroy one's own self clinging and not external enemies.
      Really there is so much negativity in the world and most of it is perpetrated out of ignorance. For example in Nepal they just burn plastic thinking it solves the problem.
      The Buddha taught that in order to transform the world we have to start by conquering our own mind, because without conquering our own negative ways of thinking we have no way to bring benefit to others.
      But I get it. It is frustrating because this is the only planet we have and can't live without it.
      🙏🙏🙏

    • @gunkwretch3697
      @gunkwretch3697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning thank you for answering. I am working on my anger, I know it doesnt help. I suppose its hard for me to have compassion for the victims of environmental devastation, (including humans) while not also falling into dualistic blaming of the more obvious perpetrators.

  • @TehNoobDruid
    @TehNoobDruid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    always love your mother, be a good house holder!

  • @colto2312
    @colto2312 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good talk

  • @jaiBisht0001
    @jaiBisht0001 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Liberation is not something you offer on streets they themselves first has to go on a journey of their own deeds and ask for the answer, and answer always come

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      great I assume that you asked the question, so what is the answer please? Thanks for sharing 🙏

  • @richardprice9730
    @richardprice9730 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WELL SAID !

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the vote of confidence Richard! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @chadkline4268
    @chadkline4268 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    😂 what an intro 👍

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks Chad I was hoping it wasn't too dramatic but that is what came out! 😆🤣😆

  • @michaelrainbow4203
    @michaelrainbow4203 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is wisdom

  • @Jessymandias
    @Jessymandias 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe try looking at the bright side of things (?)

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🎶🎵 "Always look on the bright 🎶 side of life" 🎵🎶 😆🤣😆

    • @manny3031
      @manny3031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dont bypass

  • @waiataaroha
    @waiataaroha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a genuine question for you as a buddhist monk ... we all know you do not admit that there is a creator who created the creation and there is no original cause ..... which is logically and mentally lacks any basis and is more of an insane claim ..... we all know that everything has a creator ..... everything with no exception ... so how come you you do not admit that for this universe there is no original cause ???? it it like entering a building and you asked me who made this building and i will reply by oh no one it built itself you will immediately know that this is nonsense ....

    • @Thresher55
      @Thresher55 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine everything in the world is like a big chain of dominoes. Each domino falls because the one before it pushed it. Buddhist ideas say this chain of causes goes on forever, with no start or end. Some people think there must be someone who set up the dominoes, but others say the dominoes have always been falling, pushed by each other, without anyone setting them up at the beginning.
      Dependent Origination x watchmaker analogy type beat

    • @waiataaroha
      @waiataaroha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Thresher55 we are a reflection of the universe and this world too, and we know logically and clearly that nothing happens by its own, the meal does not cook itself, the painting does not paint itself etc... .... we know this earth and all it's creatures have a beginning and an end it has not been going on forever without a start.... so why would the universe be any different?? it is just sounds to me a very immature illogical mindless thought. there has to be a starting point to all of it.... even the chain of dominos you mention has to have an intelligence/creator that made it to be and set up in motion. It is simple common sense does not need proving in fact .... i see it as a moral subject, we do not need to prove that being decent, honest and loving is moral and noble and trying to discuss or prove that is just insane and a waste of time.... I know that I have a mother and a father and this how my body came to be and this was my starting point I just did not pop out from thin air .... likewise for the whole universe. it is innate knowledge.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We teach that the creator of the mundane experience is one's one Karma but that this apparent external experience is illusion like and not something substantially real. And because of this the Buddha teaches:
      "You are your own protector, You are also your own enemy, by excellent and unwholesome deeds, you are your own testament"

    • @trustytrest
      @trustytrest 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have a genuine question for you. Why does a gay Lebanon "person" want to pretend they have anything worth saying? We all know you do not, yet your alleged "creator" did not make you mute. If there was a good and loving God, he never would have made a train wreck like you.

  • @howdareyou5800
    @howdareyou5800 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is the karmapa flag right?
    are you Kagyu?

  • @chromakey84
    @chromakey84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its only your attitude that needs to change

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So true mind is the source of all happiness and suffering 🙏🙏🙏

    • @chromakey84
      @chromakey84 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaningof course it is…
      Where else could suffering, happiness, joy, and all of the colors of experience arise from?
      ❤❤❤

  • @johndean8052
    @johndean8052 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is tiring is listening to a TH-cam guru like you///the mortal dream...silence...

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why punish your self? 🙏🙏🙏

  • @1Infeqaul1
    @1Infeqaul1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The more you do nothing, the more hell manifests upon this earth.

  • @kelseykjarsgaard5774
    @kelseykjarsgaard5774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Semi Hell realm and possible soul trap

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also potential heaven! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @anvilbrunner.2013
    @anvilbrunner.2013 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fools seek confirmation. Hope, expectation.

  • @MrGenyaAvacado
    @MrGenyaAvacado 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TH-cam recommended me nothing but cults, praise Yeshua! At least my head will be cool in the summer time.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the Cult algorithm! 😆🤣😆

  • @vaxrvaxr
    @vaxrvaxr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a philosophical stance, the viewpoint that the world is "just fine" the way it is makes sense, as a form of saying it is only not okay because we perceive it as such. That's very different from actually embodying that level of equanimity and acceptance, as you put it. And I don't believe it's such a high level of practice that few achieve it -- I'm convinced that it is absolutely impossible and contrary to human (or animal) nature to achieve, and everybody who says otherwise is lying.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh many achieve a level of apathy and indifference but equanimity (other than nominal is extremely rare) In fact we can't even tolerate someone slightly contradicting out own firmly held beliefs let alone direct attacks on our estate and well-being.
      But check it out for yourself then next time you get triggered. Self interest is endemic and there are few who are selfless.

  • @MrDudumassa
    @MrDudumassa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually i dont think christians ARE anywhrre near a espiritual path

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends on the Christian I suppose. I know of many excellent Christains♥

  • @Kaalfeyealll
    @Kaalfeyealll 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey look its Raze🤣

  • @BOSScula
    @BOSScula 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The world is..., all is karma unfolding, all is law. Our goal is to be compassionate and loving yet having the wisdom.
    You are not an enlightened being. Why teach?
    Stop teaching and focus on your own journey. Your help to society will be done in the spiritual realm instead of TH-cam. True enlightened monks don't go on TH-cam. They help the world in silence

  • @dallassegno
    @dallassegno 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DOOM DOOM DOOM lol

  • @sophiafakevirus-ro8cc
    @sophiafakevirus-ro8cc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Earth is not a planet it's a plane

  • @Neo1234567890111
    @Neo1234567890111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are no hardships in life. There are only thoughts of hardships. There is nothing wrong with this world, because it doesn't exist. Please, relax. Stop trying so hard and see.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well we can pretend we don't experience hardship but I have never met a person that doesn't. The point many miss to understand is that hardship isn't external it is a mental reaction, and if you are honest with yourself, or if you have clarity then you will se that aversion arises almost continuously.
      The trick is to recognise this and being in denial of this fact is a huge obstacle to remedying our negativity
      Thank you for sharing

  • @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ
    @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Somehow i am banned from this channel?
    Wow
    Well, at least I can see this comment, perhaps no one else can
    What planet am I on? This one
    th-cam.com/video/DksWmWmhWvg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=prpZNfC0S2_0w3yM
    We're always here, and it's always now
    This is it
    It is what it is

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Banned? No everyone is welcome 🙏🙏🙏

    • @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ
      @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning thanks I tried to post a story from a book by a Tibetan Lama earlier. Read it ages ago and only half remember
      It concerned (I think) a future student of Maitreya Buddha, who tried to (I'm not sure, perhaps) make advanced contact with Him before his appearance by meditating in a mountain cave for years in solitude.
      He'd be on the verge of giving up at times but each time he descended the mountain he met people doing things allegorical to the futility of mundane pursuits - such as the one I remember, a man trying to make a needle from an iron bar by wearing it down with a piece of silk...
      Have you come across this, I guess, parable?

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ Yes this story is associated with several historic figures but we attribute this to Asanga who channeled the teachings of Buddha Maitreya (including the highest continuum the teachings on Buddha Nature) and brought then to our world.

    • @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ
      @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning thanks, I posted the question at the top of a mountain 🙂 (well a "Graham" so only 2,000’)
      The detail at the end came back to me . Where he realises he can't use his fingers to extract the maggots and decides to use his mouth. As I remember, he finds himself kissing the ground and Maitreya standing before him because the final act of devotion/compassion made him pure enough to be able to see Maitreya instead of an injured dog
      If I read that right, the reason I posted it was because someone else posted about being in their own "bubble" and you suggested it wasn't that way?
      But this would seem to imply we all see only what we are each capable of seeing
      And then something deleted my post which is why I thought I was banned! I saw complaints by another channel about some sort of bot deleting posts, they were upset because their "funniest ever comment" was randomly removed
      So, that could be it
      Anyway all this comes with a HUGE caveat, to follow...

    • @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ
      @ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning so, the Miyamoto Musashi video seemed appropriate because it says "don't seek anything outside yourself"
      But don't be concerned, I'm not a crazed swordsman!
      What's most helpful to me is Shunryu Suzuki's book, zen mind beginners mind
      There's a chapter called "experience not philosophy" where he says it's even heretical to talk philosophy, it's all about the sitting
      Which sort of meshes with the teaching in which Buddha says he doesn't care whether the Universe is infinite or not, He just teaches two things "suffering and the end of suffering"
      Whenever I'm feeling frustrated, I tend to read the chapter of Suzuki "the marrow of zen" - works for me!
      Beyond all that I just work on the chopping wood and carrying water, I'm a simple soul

  • @sophiafakevirus-ro8cc
    @sophiafakevirus-ro8cc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Life is suffering, earth realm is Hell

  • @alanm6o9
    @alanm6o9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You speak truth but you look like you are in a deep pain and sound almost robotic. If this is what growth looks like then i think ill stay away from buddhas teachings and stick to Christ. God bless

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can't go wrong with Jesus Christ (that is if you actually follow his teachings on Love and Humility) otherwise a nominal adherence in any religion isn't of much use 🙏🙏🙏 Good luck on your journey

    • @alanm6o9
      @alanm6o9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You too man much love

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alanm6o9

    • @alanm6o9
      @alanm6o9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry for being judgmental. after seeing how you responded i knew immediately you were much further along this path than me. God bless you sir

  • @Darksky600
    @Darksky600 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't like it here, it's disgusting

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am sorry to hear that my friend Disgust is hard to bear. There is hope ♥♥♥

  • @wlflwronline
    @wlflwronline 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what do we say when friends come to us about their suffering? Do we say anything at all?

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Be a good listener, remain with compassion 🙏🙏🙏

    • @wlflwronline
      @wlflwronline 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning thank you for responding! What of our friends who let the suffering consume them and are unable to rise above? Is it our place to say something? or do we just remain a listener?

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wlflwronline Find your own strength and centre and make sure your friends know you are there for them when they need you. When someone develops spiritual qualities others in need naturally gravitate towards them ♥

    • @wlflwronline
      @wlflwronline 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning thank you Lama 🫶

  • @cabudagavin3896
    @cabudagavin3896 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dont believe in life outside of mundane reality, I think the only way we get those we love is by being here.
    Therefore, there cannot be any true liberation from suffering.
    But I am ok with that, because a false expectation of reality might as well be a renunciation of the lives we love themselves.
    One cannot despise death, because it gave us those we love.
    I suppose you would talk about oneness, therefore there cannot be any loss (in suffering context),
    But people arent me, that will always be the most true.

    • @saintsword23
      @saintsword23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This directly runs contrary to the Third Noble Truth.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah this is the general belief that most people hold these days "That's just the way things are there is nothing to do about it" but there is a more important question "can we improve our lot and is there any point to do so?" If the answer is yes then the next step is to consider what can be done.
      My personal feeling is that thinking like this(that there is basically no other choice but to accept things the way they are) is a massive trap and leads people to abandon their personal responsibility to the world and society. Much of what make the world worse is just this sort of apathy.

    • @cabudagavin3896
      @cabudagavin3896 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning I agree, but my stance feels more to me like holding the mundane (material reality) as the seat of enlightenment, and so, a Buddhas highest purpose would be to get as close to perfecting the mundane world as possible.
      This isnt to denouncement of the normal stance of enlightenment, but in addition to an acceptance of its standard nature.
      So basically abstinence isnt the way.
      Neither is aversion to love nor worldly attachment, but more that being attached to the most that the world has to offer, that being sentient beings and "love".
      If their is such a thing as an afterlife for individuated mind consciousness, it probably likes being here, better than being alone.

  • @That_Freedom_Guy
    @That_Freedom_Guy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I am currently a recovering opiate addict. I understand physical and mental suffering from addiction. I can skillfully interpret opiate addiction as a stand in for ALL addiction. I can learn how euphoria is paid for by its equal yet opposite reaction of intense suffering! Yin and yang much? When you are classified as an outcast, the so-called good and decent people in society, reveal a facet of themselves that they never show to their peers. We get to see a reality that is hidden from most people. What privilege, yet they are not afraid to show their true face, precisely because they know that nobody will believe us if we tell. That's like open season on the marginalised that everyone denies as they do it! How can they stop what they refuse to acknowledge? This is ego. This is samsara! We are all deeply addicted! 💜 🙏🧡

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      As we are all addicted to Samsara in one form or another what grounds is there to look down on those who crave opioids instead of power for example.
      Because we have Buddha Nature we are all seeking transcendent bliss. The problem is we misidentify the causes of happiness and in our pursuit of peace we apply ourselves to the causes of further suffering instead. This is the nature of delusion.
      In many ways opioid addiction is a more honest form of delusion than an addiction to power and influence - although ultimately no less dangerous. Attachment binds us to suffering and the greater the attachment the deeper we become mired in the mundane world.

    • @That_Freedom_Guy
      @That_Freedom_Guy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ultimatemeaning I am delighted and very honoured to simply speak with you and be in your presence. Truly, we are blessed to have such excellent karma! I do not take this for granted, I am grateful beyond mere words can express! 🫡🙏🙏🙏🧡

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@That_Freedom_Guy 😊

    • @kelseykjarsgaard5774
      @kelseykjarsgaard5774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I never got addicted but do miss some of em odd time

    • @Garage_Tolkien
      @Garage_Tolkien หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @that_freedom_Guy I come from that world of long term opiate addiction too and get what u mean about the equal and opposite cost of euphoria and the stand in for addiction in general.
      I suppose in a way The journey out of addiction can be likened to spiritual training in a monastery. As an anology, its like You enter the monastery with all your earthly baggage and ego trips as someone taking a drug daily to cope and then u decide to stay because u come to the realization that the drug is just increasing your suffering. You sit alone and isolated in that abandoned building for days, weeks, months; like a monk in the mountains. here you are, realizing its all on you now and nothing can make this go away except an all-or-nothing joint effort between you and the universe. Then there is this period of learning to let go of attachment. often this might require having to shed everything you once knew, and you arrive to this dark night of the soul moment, completely exposed & more vulnerable than ever. After many iterations of trial & error you eventually get up one day noticing the ammount of time that has passed and realizing the vibrational change in you between then and now. You feel better than you have for days. It's like your the float on a fishing line and you've just surfaced after losing all your bait to a big 'un. In a previous time you mightve concidered that bad, but oddly youve reached a place where less is more. You leave the monastery of that old building without any of the burden you brought in. You feel lighter. After a while you notice a clarity u havnt felt in years as u begin to grasp the sheer weight all that baggage must've had on your mind. Only by letting go of all that you'd been clinging so hard to, does it finally become clear how toxic it really was. Youve won a real spiritual battle.
      The last lesson is realizing u havnt won the war. you've taken the road less traveled. Remaining on the path is what wins the war. The war of suffering. Sooner or later The noise of the old days will again call out to you, and sometimes very conveniently. And like a monk it requires staying devout to your calling.
      I geuss this is where I should say it's not even really an anology to begin with, because it's all part of the same story anyway. The human story.

  • @josephsonoftheuniverse5541
    @josephsonoftheuniverse5541 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    When I am unhappy I am a slave, when I am happy I am a servant of humanity
    Understanding this was like rubbing mud from my eyes and standing up with my arms outstretched and laughing loudly.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      BEAUTIFUL

    • @That_Freedom_Guy
      @That_Freedom_Guy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josephsonoftheuniverse5541 🫡👍

  • @freetibet1000
    @freetibet1000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Karmapa Kyenno Karmapa Kyenno Karmapa Kyenno
    Yes, it’s all so true! Thank you! We all need to remind ourselves what the path is all about. We really must FEEL IT in our bones! If we take Milarepa as our example of how to turn the experiences of this temporary existence around and get to work on all those factors within us that is causing dissatisfaction and suffering, this life will not be wasted. The path of the Buddha Dharma is not a path of acquiring philosophical knowledge. It’s the true path to liberation from all those factors leading to imprisonment and suffering. There’s a very deep reason why the Buddha began teaching the way he did. Without a fundamental disgust for samsara and all its false promises we do not have a path yet! The insight into the dissatisfactory nature of samsara should be our motivation throughout all practice we do. Only when this is truly established in our being do we have a good foundation for love and compassion for others. Only when we feel the pain in our bones can we understand the sufferings of others. I believe that no one have ever managed to liberate themselves without this firm understanding of the shortcomings of samsara. But mere words doesn’t do it! Philosophical studies and clinging to conceptual ideas will never be enough, far from it. It doesn’t matter how much we believe in the non-dual nature of reality. It’s still just mental babble and clinging to concepts. True transformation is an entirely difference thing. It starts with really feeling the pain and sufferings of samsara. Milarepa understood this to such a degree that he abandoned all worldly life and went into the mountains to uproot all causes for the sufferings he experienced. He remained outside of society for the rest of his life and attained supreme enlightenment. Ohm Ah Guru Hasa Benzra Hung

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I see you have considered the truth of this well and made it personal through your own contemplation. Thank you for sharing your heart felt insight 🙏🙏🙏

    • @freetibet1000
      @freetibet1000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning It’s all due to the persistent kindness of my gurus. My stubborn mind would never have changed without their incredible wisdom and kindness. I must have be one of the “hardest nuts to crack” they’ve ever met! Still have a long way to go of course!

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@freetibet1000 Now the nut is cracked plant it in good soil and give it water, warmth, sun and fertilizer 🙏🙏🙏

    • @jamessherburn
      @jamessherburn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      01:12 'incredibly high level practice' ... If anyone relevant was watching this you likely lost them here.

  • @maryfreund4957
    @maryfreund4957 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Finding the beauty in our suffering is truly a transformative process. Lately, I've been suffering alongside my colleagues, but secretly, I've been praying so hard that they can finally see how they have directly contributed to their own suffering. All I can do is try my best to be a positive example and keep up with my practice. By modeling my own transformation, I pray that others observe that it is possible to be a better person. Thank you for this message, Lama 🙏💚

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ah Mary! such pleasing words! 💚💚💚

  • @PP-G
    @PP-G 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thankyou Lama Choga this is exactly what I needed to hear today.🙏🙏🙏

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Always a pleasure to be of service 🙏🙏🙏

    • @PP-G
      @PP-G 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ultimatemeaning I try to use my "suffering" as a crest to ride..but the surf was turbulent today..and I must practice even more..I appreciate your wisdom ..thanks

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PP-G Look not to the appearance of suffering but the mindset that doesn't accept that!

    • @PP-G
      @PP-G 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ultimatemeaning could you find time for a email chat,sometime Choga ?

  • @jan-olofmallander9622
    @jan-olofmallander9622 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great respect for this authentic appearance.
    I will continue to follow it up-
    And ,as always;
    - thank You

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And thank you for participating in the discussion JAn! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @strangecurrency
    @strangecurrency 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nice! A new video just in time for my lunch break.
    Something that always brings me clarity about how to respond to the horrors of reality is the serenity prayer: "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."
    I think we are morally obliged to address suffering in the mundane world by actively intervening in worldly affairs to the extent of our range of influence. The less people trapped in lives of coarse suffering, the more people who have the freedom to engage with dharmas of their choosing. Its hard to pursue spirituality when your village is getting burned down by corporate mercenaries so a pit mine can be established on your landbase.
    Perhaps seeking liberation for all sentient beings by spending a lifetime in monastic retreat from worldly affairs is more effective on a cosmic scale. I can't claim to know. But I do know that if I'm meditating on a hillside and I hear the screams of a person in distress nearby, I 'm going to abandon the meditation and see what I can do to help.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The Tibetans say "If you have a problem and you can do something about it, why worry? And if you have a problem and there is nothing you can do about it, why worry?" 😆🤣😆

    • @That_Freedom_Guy
      @That_Freedom_Guy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cool! 😎👍​@@ultimatemeaning

    • @strangecurrency
      @strangecurrency 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brilliant ❤️

    • @user-yv6xw7ns3o
      @user-yv6xw7ns3o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaningI wonder if worrying tends to come from uncertainty of a particularly constricting sort; uncertainty about the possibility of being able to do something about whatever is troubling, in a world which seems to fundamentally avoid providing any completely perfect knowledge or guarantees and certainty about what is or is not exactly possible for any individual.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@user-yv6xw7ns3o Certainty is absolutely essential, and doubt is a huge obstacle to development. That's why study and contemplation are so important

  • @poundcakeboi3104
    @poundcakeboi3104 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The most difficult anger, in my experience, to release is that which you are undoubtedly justified in holding by any worldly or logical standard that could be agreed upon by more than 2 people. I have had some truly horrific abuse committed against me in my life by people and institutions far larger than myself in how most humans understand power dynamics. If you told my story to anyone in its entirety and its truth, only people entirely consumed by evil would disagree. It really is that clear cut. It took me time to recognize this myself, it wasn’t always so clear cut for me. Before I fully came to understand my situation I was consumed by sorrow. Because there was no clear target or cause, I couldn’t rationalize anger because I was determined to make sure I didn’t ever make anyone hurt like I have. But once I realized just how egregiously I’d been abused, violated on every level imaginable, a rage swelled up within me unlike anything I knew I was capable of experiencing. It was like being overcome by the waves of the ocean. I felt completely powerless to the force of nature that I was embodying. I still do struggle with this. Some days all I can do is lie in bed, making every effort to let go. Even if I can’t overcome it now, I will not unleash it on anyone else. The struggle that comes from wrestling with the rage is worse than the sorrow I experienced in my ignorance of my situation. Now I look at myself and I hardly recognize who I am, but I will not hurt others. I will be ground into dust before I pass on this pain to another sentient being. It’s the only hope I can hold on to at this point as the thought of overcoming it seems laughable. I never thought being right could be so horrible. Now I am on a path of release, as there is no path forward for me that will allow me to maintain my integrity. Thank you for your words. If I could have had it any other way, I most certainly would have as well, but that is not the world I find myself in for whatever the cause. Now I just have to let go of everything.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A bit of a difficult topic for most people when it comes to the meaning of karma as it was taught by the Buddha, because all the negativity is said to be the consequence of one's own previous misdeeds. For example if someone abuses you it is because you did similar to them in past lifetimes 🙏🙏🙏

    • @poundcakeboi3104
      @poundcakeboi3104 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ultimatemeaning yeah, I have a really hard time believing that. It seems like a great excuse for abusers to justify their actions.

  • @JesusTheLoveGift
    @JesusTheLoveGift 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    To be conflicted with the world is to be attached, it is to have an expectation and live in the shadow of that expectation, to be free from the world and suffering is not for it to be fixed, rather it is to be free of the expectation that creates the suffering
    Those who speak of the world like it is an issue, like it is an outside thing - these people speak only of their own tainted experience

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very much depends on how you define the world. In Buddhism it isn't a place but an outlook or perspective. Thank you for sharing!

  • @dreamingacacia
    @dreamingacacia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People are using false interpretation of believes to empower their own qualities. It's shown that someone is apathy person when stuffs happen and the person don't try to help. It's easier to magnify existing realities than improving them into a better one.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting- is help magnification or doing something to better the situation?

    • @dreamingacacia
      @dreamingacacia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultimatemeaning "help" is a verb. magnification just meant that you're doing what you're always do but with supporting reasons or tools to do them better. Doing something to better the situation, essentially is to find a solution to the problem. By the phase "It's easier to magnify existing realities than improving them into a better one", was referring to the willingness of people to do something which could change the situation. For example; A beggar begging for money to buy food. There are some excess money, what would the beggar do? Saving in case of emergency that's never enough or invest them to improve themselves into a better version so they don't have to continued begging ? Though there might be unfortunate circumstances in reality, but normal beggars will save their money into the endless void instead of trying to improve their wellbeings. Only some distinguish beggars in the folklores would spend money to better themselves and became someone respectable. It might not catch the essence of the phase, but I think you could see a glimpse of it.