If I may ask you one question: What are your thoughts on "attachment to detachment", as in: getting attached to the idea of achieving complete detachment from everything? Isn't getting attached to that idea also spiritually limiting?
Yes this is ultimately a mistake but provisionally quite important on the path. Please check out this series of videos on the final view that is beyond views for more on the Buddhist perspective of this topic: th-cam.com/video/B_DJTa7m_5E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Zue16edV71AJqmZW
@@ultimatemeaning Thank you so much! I've had some thoughts and impressions about this both from my own mind and others, but this gave me new and deep input about the subject!
Well spoken Choga la.. I remember a story His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama told of him giving a teaching on emptiness to a monk who was "not quiet ready for prime time" you might say. Upon hearing the teaching on emptiness the monk began to shake with a terrible fear because he interpreted it to mean "nothing existed" and thought that meant he was basically dead or simply "not real." It really scared the monk and His Holiness felt regret even as he corrected and comforted the monk. I think it's a good story to keep in mind because in a way, at certain times or on certain levels, we are ALL like that monk in our fears and delusions. ❤🙏
@@tomward5293 If by "path" you mean a way to approach an understanding of emptiness (shunya) I would say study Nagarjuna and his treatise the "Mūlamadhyamakakārikā" There are also many commentaries and even modern translations and discussions of that text. A very good, concise but still challenging modern academic book that could help in this regard is "Appearance and Reality: The Two Truths in the Four Buddhist Tenet Systems.. by Guy Newland" That book (which I studied in a classroom setting at a local monastery) is very helpful in that it's an investigation into various definitions and meanings of "emptiness" according to 4 different traditional schools or philosophical views (tenets). Emptiness really means "empty of independence" - which means that ultimately (fundamentally) things are "real appearances" in that reality is what appears to us (appears to the mind), however, because those appearances are completely dependent on other "things" for their appearing it means there is no basis within that dream like appearance for any clinging or aversion. In fact, the terms "interdependence" and "emptiness" are synonymous (having the same meaning). This is explained in Guy Newlands book as the "prasangika" view which is the accepted "highest" view of most Tibetan schools of Buddhism. But if you mean "path" to be another view of reality which rejects or interprets "emptiness" differently from the prasangika view (mentioned above) then there are several approaches like that ranging from theism to Bhakti yoga to Chittamatra to (Yogacara) to theravada Buddhism and even some tantric scools etc. All such "paths" do have a kind of "emptiness" as their goal but express it differently - which may be more suited for different people or different mindsets. Some of us however are not ready in this particular life to be a Mahayana Buddhist or to be a Tantra practicer which is fine, and so to "advance" on a spiritual path might mean for them embracing another view like theism or even materialism until their mind becomes open and subtle enough to go beyond those views. Lastly, emptiness (at least a conceptual understanding of it) is considered a prerequisite for practicing Tantra according to most Tibetan teachers because without that understanding the person practicing Tantra will MISTAKENLY view the visualizations and experiences as either "real" (and thus a basis for clinging) or "not real" (and thus a basis for dismissing or rejecting them altogether). In other words, without first understanding and accepting "emptiness-interdependence" when we practice Tantra (or glimpse a deep view of our true nature) we will easily fall into a mindset of either "permanence" OR "nihilism" - and neither of those mindsets are the true remedy to suffering. Sorry for the long comment ❤🙏
Excellent Dharma talk Lama Choga! This is the face of our Glorious and Unrivaled Kagyu Lineage that I like to see and fully support!!! Sarvamangalam!!!
Just wonderful, a buddhist master simply speaking about Truth. Just you and your voice, eloquently spoken English, nothing more, nothing less, perfection! Thank you, master 🙏 I'm subscribing for more mahayana buddhism.
Very well-explained, brother. We're all fortunate that you became a monk, instead of a surgeon. You're now a spiritual surgeon and the world is a better place. Blessings to you.
Ive just discovered your videos. I consider myself on the fringe of spirituality, but it still has a heavy place in my life. I enjoy laying in bed and closing my eyes and listening to your teachings. There is no shame, only responsibility. This is how it should be.
Personally I recommend getting into meditation if this type of spirituality speaks to you, when I first started delving into it meditation resonated with the things that made me interested in the first place
I like the idea that you described "something can be a permissive structure for bad conducts", which implies any teachings/religions/ways of thinking is just a structure or framework that can have negative impacts if we are not careful with it. Your videos are very clear and the perfect material to me as someone who was exposed to Buddhism culture in my native language/culture, but learnt all my philosophies later in English.
Because I live in Taiwan, I was introduced to Chinese Mahayana traditions, but later moved toward Theravada, which suited me very well because, to me, it was far simpler. But I am fascinated by Vajrayana. However, listening to your vid, I am thinking that I should perhaps be less adventurous. Thank you though. It was fascinating.
This video came along at the perfect time; I am still very new to Buddhism after exploring other spiritual paths but from the limited time I practised zazen it helped me become more passionate and understanding. I am now interested in learning more about Tibetan Buddhism (I am in Scotland so I want to make a trip to Kagyu Samye Ling at some point) but I understand I need to take this path slow as I have always had a rushed mind and fall victim to what you describe as "getting it the wrong way". Thank you Lama Choga and I look forward to watching more of your videos 🙏🏻
Thanks for sharing your deep insights on these esoteric aspects. I find myself almost excited when you post these monologues, but I try to catch you in the morning when my mind is the clearest so there is true understanding.
@ultimatemeaning that is hilarious 😂 I wouldn't have known had you not said so. I am scared to make a channel of my own things, because I know others will enjoy them. And I don't want it to go to my head. What is your secret to staying humble?
This is where for me it all falls short. Taoist teachings and Japanese Zen for me, fills that gap. I cannot understand why the maya cannot be altered to endure less suffering while we are here, I believe in retro-causality, and there is a way to change not only the future...but the past. The one thing I cannot change, touch, or grasp, is...now. prescience to see all things as they are.❤
Thank youuu Mr. Choga for the video. I've decided to get off off social media for a year or so, have limited myself to watching your channel and some other Buddhist oriented channels, social media has done nothing for me other than make me angry, depressed and an overall nihilistic view on everything 🙏.
Ive recently started reading the Bhagavad Gita and have just finished the second chapter on the Karma Yoga. I was quite surprised to find that when Krishna begins his discourse on the Yoga teachings, he would openly encourage Arjuna to commence battle and try and kill his relatives and beloved teachers. Im aware that Krishna is trying to explain that ultimate reality, the atman cannot die, and our actions in the physical world cannot change the Self. It struck me that up until the chapter on the Karma Yoga, it all seems like an instruction on nihilistic existence ; much like what you’ve described about the modern take on non-duality. Granted, I’ve just read the first two chapters of eighteen, and there is much more to interpret, but in reading the encouragement of Krishna to Arjuna to carry out his worldly duties, I could t help but feel disturbed. Afterall, I feel the Four noble truths to be a great place to start learning about ultimate truth. Is it just a case of pushing on and finding out what the Gita has to teach? FWIW, I’m just trying to understand different traditions. Truth is truth, no matter the language used I suppose. EDIT: at this point I also realise that the Gita describes birth-death-rebirth cycle ad infinitum. I haven’t uncovered any teachings on the release of maya (suffering). No spoilers please! 😁🤣
I have had very limited exposure to teachings on the inner meaning of the Gita, but from what I learnt in Pune, India these teachings are allegorical. So of the Tantric Buddhist teaching have a similar flavour to those you mentioned because, for example that one needs to kill one's mother and father, but as you guessed this isn't meant to be literal. I have to say thought that there is a bid difference between the final Hindu message and that of Varjayana Buddhist regardless of how similar they appear on the outside. Thanks for sharing 🙏🙏🙏
I would consider myself a Chan/Zen Buddhist, however I have a great respect for all the schools. My first temple experience was at a Theravada temple, but the temple I became somewhat a member of was essentially a Chinese-Mahayana temple that basically embraced all the Chinese schools of Buddhism. I must admit though, Vajrayana is so fascinating. The tantric teachings, the teacher lineages, and the real life understanding of reincarnation within lineages (two good examples that come to mind are Palga Rinpoche and his holiness the Dalai Lama). Really great video Lama Choga, looking forward to part 2.
@@ultimatemeaning Palga Rinpoche’s story is so inspiring to me. He left Ladakh, became a millionaire in tech, realized it wasn’t for him and then became a monk and now spreads the Buddha Dharma. Fascinating individual and I agree he’s definitely a Bodhisattva.
I appreciate your teaching very much. Very much. I’m so grateful to have connected with it. It was Tara who came to me in a dream and helped me leave suffering behind. And Tara practice opened my world to all of Buddha Dharma. These are my musings in all things I’m growing. That said, these tantric practices seem to contradict what we as humans know of the nature of normal humans. If you have celibate men alone imagining themselves as naked 16 year old girls. This… just seems like a kink. Particularly with the contrast to the teachings of Lord Buddha who is called Shakyamuni. Thai monks, who seem to have a more ancient tradition don’t have such practices and consider them obviously un enlightening for the reason I’m saying. It’s hard enough as a monk to be celibate, let alone with naked sixteen year old girls statues around in wild sexual activity. I’m not sure because the roots seem so great. I hope to do Tara practice forever. It is not hard to see how enlightenment can be hidden in these things. And how exploring tantra can cause attainment in severing attachment. But obviously the Lord Buddha didn’t intend to give this out as his core teachings. When I’m fasting I love to look at cooking shows and people eating. Afterwards I feel full. I wonder if that’s why these esoteric practices became so central to Tibetan Buddhism?
I can’t help but to see the interdependence of one of my comments on secret and self secret on your channel and seeing this video now, that’s really cool! If people don’t have the karma to connect with dharma no matter how much it’s in their face or right next door they won’t see it. There’s an amazing Kalu Rinpoche stupa in Santa Fe NM USA and it can be seen as a glimpse over some miles away from several different directions. I know someone who drove passed this amazing stupa everyday to go to school and she never ever saw it, but when she met me, who was in the dharma, I knew of the stupa and I showed it to her, and she was completely blown away that through three years of passing it everyday she never saw it. But before we went and saw the stupa she had already been introduced to Buddhism, and when seeing the stupa it all clicked. She wasn’t ready to see it until that moment 😃 it was “self secret.”
Yeah I like to use these videos to broaden the discussion on topics that people raise in the comments section . It makes the community interactive and self perpetuating (also intra-active as this topic came up in relation to an upload from @eugenethephilosopher), so thank you again for joining the conversation 🙏🙏🙏
Hello, Lama Choga, I hope you are well. I've found your channel at a point in my life where I am experiencing a lot of emotional pain, through loss and subsequently through that dredging up other events from the past. As I think happens with many people, this hardship has caused me to re-evaluate the spirituality in my life (or previously, lack thereof). I come from a Catholic context, though never felt much kinship with that in my early youth, though may now explore that, but I have also developed a deep interest in Buddhism's spiritual aspects (whereas my interest has been more scholastic for the past few years). Regardless of which path I choose, I would like to give you my most humble thanks as your words and talks have brought a great deal of comfort to me in these uncertain times.
Thank you friend and I respect you courage for sharing your inner feelings. Study is important because it enables one to pursue their chosen path with confidence and conviction. There is always hope and the path is never blocked 🙏🙏🙏
Incredible video. I struggled with 'unearned wisdom' gained from psychedelic experiences a while back. I felt viscerally in those moments that it was only I, and despite being able to disregard solipsist machinations in the past, seeing it so clearly made ignoring it far more difficult. It was the most horrifying feeling, abject loneliness and simplicity that made me remember why I chose to forget it. I eventually realized I simply wasn't spiritually or cognitively ready to see the beauty in whatever that was, and made a decision to do away with everything mind-altering to see if I can come to those epiphanies the old-fashioned way. I'm not sure if what I saw is true, if I can ever be ready and if I really want to, but either way I'm glad to have this channel as a tool on my journey
This "unearned" or "illegal entry" into heaven as taught in the Kabbalah is perplexing because whereas they are valid experiences quite obviously to sustain that chemically will quite obviously drive you crazy. These experiences can be inspirational, but until one gains independence in practice that doesn't depend on external conditions, one must persevere in one's quest
@ultimatemeaning Im not sure if it is considered an illegal entry into heaven (by the Jewish people), but I know little to nothing about that system, that faith, and its compatibility with Buddhist goals. I know I have an interest in getting out samsara, and what I have learned confirmed what Buddhist said.
I guess I'm definitely category one of people 😅 or close to it, it's the cat's curiosity combined with excitement/joy in mysterious/magical things . Just sharing a personal experience. I myself received a specific teaching before I was ready for it. I had a difficult time sitting with it, and found it destabilising. My teacher showed me courage as a path, but my negative emotion got in the way of my relationship with the teacher and I had to take a step back to process on my own because of the lack of trust that came up for me. This made the journey very hard, but I guess it is not an easy journey? I did continue with other teachers and finally got to the place where I was able to integrate that specific teaching step by step over the last year and half. If I hadn't received the early teaching though I wouldn't have also searched for the knowledge that helped me become able to hold the teaching. I am wondering if this is sometimes the nature of the spiritual journey to explore and fail and explore again, especially for those of us for whom the journey began as a way of learning how to cope with trauma (leading to heavy childhood motivations for avoidance of presence and avoidance developing as a habit of mind).
@@buntobilli 🙏🙏🙏 Thanks for sharing your experience, sadly this is the most common obstacle to Western practitioners these days (not the case in Theravadin traditions like Ajhan Chan I think). And it is largely due to our thirst for high and profound teachings. It is said that the preliminaries are more important than the main practice and the truth of this is undeniable.🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning thank you for your response lama choga 🙏🏾.I will try to sit with my need to be the next shams 😂😅. It is bringing up another question for me that I have been thinking about and would much appreciate your thoughts on. I work in the mental health field as a peer support person with both well and ill populations. Part of my work is teaching emotional regulation, and a lot of the techniques used in this field can be traced back to having roots in vipassana tradition. Because vipassana practice (among other things) has been such a major part of own journey in learning to manage my own mental health condition, it's also the easiest go to for me when I am working with a group and questions come up, its easiest for me to answer using meditation practice or to refer people to meditation practice. But because I am not trained in offering this teaching, it is a cause of concern for me how much I should talk about it because I don't want to cause unintentional harm. I would appreciate your guidance on this.
@@buntobilli Great question, there is a modern clinical movement in mindfulness and I think this is a good framework for presenting meditation techniques in a non religious context. But in general meditation and contemplation is common to all spiritual traditions and there is great scope to share these instructions in a generalised manner. The main caveat is when it comes to specific and profound views as presented in the Buddha Dharma but also in other traditions like the Advaita vedanta. However having said that there are reliable teachers such as Thich Nhat han who have written a lot of helpful information that is in the public domain and can be easily shared with others without any danger of ethical blunders. Citing these authors is probably all that is required.🙏🙏🙏
There is one other side to that story which neither of us has explored, I think. In the words of a poet: "Sorrow is knowledge, those that know the most must mourn the deepest, the tree of knowledge is not the tree of life". The deepest knowledge would therefore mean the deepest sorrow. Which is probably not something that a random decent person needs.
There was the famous Kadamoa master LangriThampa. When Atisha asked how he was doing, they all replied that he cries all day long and almost never smiles (the only time he did smile was when he saw a mouse trying to steal a piece of jade from his altar) Atisha thought this was excellent and saw his practice to be truly exceptional, a cut above the rest!
@@ultimatemeaning I really love the interplay of what you're saying with my random thoughts. I'm 100% Europe-centric and have no idea about Eastern tradition. Your contribution is very welcome.
I understand what your saying about the misunderstanding related to the imagery. I have watched a guy research Hindu temples with similar images and he has shown it's really a multidimensional image shown as a flat one. They are not multiple arms but arms holding multiple wisdom teachings. It looks fierce since it battles the darkness of ignorance to create pure wisdom. Purity is the goal. The problem is a lot of people started the awakening community's and started to use certain information to start creating something else with it. If people don't have any access to the truth at this time they are more likely to believe the untruths and it will send humanity in a different direction so it's within the wisdom and discernment that must be taken on how much people are ready to understand.
My initial reaction to this video was somewhat negative due to the idea of secret knowlege and how I believe that practice has been abused by other religions, however I changed when I dug into the philosophy. First off, the tantric images are beautiful, and hiding that from the public is completely reasonable. In a previous comment I stated I didnt know if I was non dualist. I still dont know but I looked up more, and I got some confusing results. Rene Decardes aparently believed in a speration from the world of the mind and the body. And that sounds good on its face, so I almost believed I was a dualist. However I believe that everything is interconnected and not seperate. Which makes me a non-dualist apperently. I also believe in other parallel worlds and universes so that could make me a pluarist. However, I could see how teaching non-dualism could be dangerous or misinterpreted. Also I could see how the practice you mentioned of seeing no objective morality as very dangerous. Ive long believed that while there isnt one objective moral code, that doesnt mean there arent still good choices and bad choices, just that each choice has individual circumstances and interpritations. Also the teaching you mentioned about "nothing being real" I somehow completely understand. Its not that the universe isnt real it has more to do with conciousness shaping quantum probabilities. I get that I'm no physicist so I am open to change on this one. But it seems like our thoughts, our actions, have a very subtle influence on the world around us. There's a way to interpret that as reality changing itself around us or just the butterfly effect, that even the slightest change in mood can have far reaching consequences. But even if the world is some kind of simulation, it still has rules. You arent on god mode in a videogame just because its "not real"
You raise some interesting point friend, and there is an important consideration- Because many people believe that one's view is a matter of choice. Where as it may be the case that one can choose which philosophic concepts one prefers when it comes to one's natural view of the world we have no choice. We are dualists and deciding to believe in non duality does nothing to change that. But this is a point that I have covered n many videos. Also of notes, conscious collapse is only one theory of many on how something in an uncertain state can appear to become fixed but not everyone suggests that wave form collapse is necessary (for example in a multiverse model). The Buddha taught that no thing has fixed identity which kind of leans towards a position that doesn't require collapse. Thanks for sharing your thoughts 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you ! Our language offers great possibilities of misunderstanding, even when we know the language game of the other very well, and of course even more when we hardly know the language game of the other. I am sometimes asked about the practice of meditation, and even the simplest things are often very difficult to convey, for example when I say that meditation (in my case zazen) is about letting go, this can be understood as pushing away or getting rid of, so I now say that things are left as they are, but even this does not describe well enough what is meant, there is still the possibility of misunderstanding. Language is difficult because we can only ever interpret words and sentences as a reference to our experiences! Much more important than thinking that I understand is now seeing how little I actually understand ! A high official visited Tao-hsin and asked him “May I give up my position and seek the truth?” Tao-hsin replied, “Yes, you may, but you will never find the truth.” The official was puzzled “What should I do then? Stay an official?” Tao-hsin replied, “It doesn't work like that either.” The man sat dumbfounded in front of Tao-hsin. He got up, ran to the door, ran back and sat down again. Later, Tao-hsin said, “Understand or not, both are fatal.”
And this comes to the final essential point that I will attempt to cover next week on why the profound inner meaning should not be taught to everyone. Thanks for sharing story and experience 🙏🙏🙏
Hello Lama Choga la. I was very interested in the Tantric aspect i.e the union of male and female spiritual energy which is the divine union. You asked me about Mount Athos. I have a strong connection to Gerontas Aimilianos who was Abbot of Simonoptera Monastery which looks just like a Tibetan Monastery perched on the top of a cliff. As I don't believe in coincidences! There has to be a connection. Love and blessings. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@ultimatemeaning you mentioned previously that some knowledge isn't for everyone, that there were sound reasons for it, I agree, but some can see far, look deep, and know things without knowing, nothing can hide from their gaze, take your example of Buddha needing to locate the mother, as his own gift of sight was limited, but Buddhas can see all. I think about what you say.
@@ultimatemeaning why are some of us gifted with sight, or a knowing of a great truth, and other's cannot ever even attain a hint of it's essence? We are not all equal, this is evident, but what sets us apart? Knowledge, skills, and abilities. Self discipline, accountability, responsibility, this.
Haven't heard of her in fact I am not very informed about what is going on in the West. Most of my studies were in the Tibetan language and they never mention any Western teachers
The last one: institutional abuse, & INTENTIONAL abuses pfff gracious im happy thats NOT my cuppatea sort-of-speak. This teaching Lama, will be a other mindbreaker. Im sure. Thank jou for this. we need it here in the west. peeps seems confused. . . .from the netherlands greatings mapia
@@ultimatemeaning Hey hallo dear Lama looking forwards. . . this teaching1 jou said it. Cept secret is one of the things why i cept my celebration & cermonies (for the dieties of the THANKA) JUST for the eyes to my kids & sometimes the peron who raised them with me. Its not a secret that i do gardening, but to be succesfull in jour work JOU HAVE TO PUT IN THE WORK not only tecniks like seeds & sticks & this negative emotions is here in the west a problem. Peeps deniel them or seems to cultivate them & rectefie them, all not aware of the suffering that brings it foreward, not onnly for themselfs. . . Thank jou Lama. The Omega Lifescool in the netherlands works with thoose negative emotions, not only that. But 9 months in 2021 what was also my black moon liliith jear. . . & a jear integrating them, now a jear of reflecting on MY HARVEST. . .jep i can cope with alot of negativety & NOT loose nothing what is gained. Peeps not even knoe what a blackmoon lilith is, but if jour in. . . . jou know. that there is work to be done in the inner self. Thank jou very very much. Lama
I'm someone fairly new to Buddhism and I'm considering Tantric empowerment. How do you know when you are ready? Is this something the spiritual guide has to decide?
Most empowerments these days are given as a blessing and nothing more, and although receiving an empowerment in this way is traditional, the true purpose for taking empowerment is so that you are able to practice the relevant sadhana practice. My own teacher takes this point very seriously and says that everyone should consider well before seeking empowerment. In my opinion the most important considerations are 1. Seek them only from teachers that you have genuine faith in, 2. Preferably receive an empowerment that you intend to use for practice (but getting it from a Lama you have faith in as a blessing is totally valid, in fact if it is your root guru then you would want to receive every empowerment the confer). If you do seek empowerment as a blessing you should at least know what the practice is and a little bit about the main points of the practice are. Hope this helps 🙏🙏🙏
The British did the same in regards to Hindu Tantric practices in India, this was due to an ignorance regarding the practises involved in Tantra. As soon as they would see the worship of the Divine mother Kali, they would think this is just some kind of cult of devil worshippers who belong to a primitive tribal nation. To this day those stereotypes are still believed not just in the west, but even among most Indians. Even the vajrayana images seem like Bhairava and his shakti in union, which is also represents the core philosophy of kashmiri shaiva tantra.
@@Shapeshifter1594 A huge issue with our Christian brothers especially the Baptists and evangelicals, all the more reason not to be careless with the teachings. But more to follow next week 🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning Yes. Definitely agree. I personally though have benifitted greatly from the teachings of emptiness (mostly from James Low) and Advaita Vedanta and Trika Shaivism, and will be eternally greatful for those teachings being made publicly available, I can also see how it could be grossly misinterpreted by someone whose not ready for it.
So the first part of the video is about བསྐལ་དོན་གསུམ། that is དུས་ཀྱི་བསྐལ་དོན། ཡུལ་གྱི་བསྐལ་དོན། རང་བཞིན་ནས་ངོ་བོའི་བསྐལ་དོན། Then ལྐོག་གྱུར། is from Buddhist epistemology from the category of གཞལ་བྱ།་that is observable phenomena or knowable object from གཞལ་བྱ་གསུམ། that are མངོན་སུམ། ལྐོག་གྱུར། ཤིན་ཏུ་ལྐོག་གྱུར། That is directly perceivable phenomena, that which is not directly perceivable by the sense perceptions but for which one needs to rely on inferential cognition, such as the subtle sense faculties, no self, and the impermanence of sound, etc., ... and there is that which is extremely hard to perceive, for which we cannot rely on direct perception, not inference and therefore have to rely on the authority of an enlightened being (usually through scriptural authority). The examples are a treasure hidden under the earth (these days we have apparatus, Buddha realms (basically other dimensions), and the links between actions and results (as mentioned in the video regarding the workings of Karma). So lets compare these categories: For example something that is obscured from me because of location, let's say it is in Melbourne and I am in Canada, may not be obscured from someone in Australia. So it is མངོན་གསུམ། or directly perceivable phenomena, its just that I can not perceive it directly. where as something that is རང་བཞིན་ནས་ངོ་བོའི་བསྐལ་དོན། is basically not directly perceivable to me and can be either ལྐོག་གྱུར། or ཤིན་ཏུ་ལྐོག་གྱུར། that is either an inferential object or an object only perceivable to a Buddha. So in dialectics we could debate this point and say. The Andromeda galaxy isn't "directly observable phenomena" the retort would be that it is directly perceivable to an Andromedan. Likewise you could say an object that isn't knowable by my sense organs is ལྐོག་གྱུར། and you could respond that "an egg in Australia isn't directly perceivable" which is false right? Anyway you can see that there is crossover here, right?
@@ultimatemeaning ལག་སོ༏ཐུགས་ཆེ་རྗེ་རྒན་ལགས། I see. Then something's being a མངོན་གྱུརor ལྐོག་གྱུར་ depends more on the level of realization of the person rather on the objects nature, while something's being a བསྐལ་དོན་, apart from the person's level of realization, also depends on one's location, and the nature of the object (i.e. the subtlety of wifi waves, or the existence of immaterial beings like ghosts). Otherwise, following your example, one could reach to the wrong conclusion that if something is hidden for oneself, it is hidden for everyone ( ལྐོག་གྱུར་ཡིན་ན་ལྐོག་གྱུར་ཡིན་པས་ཁྱབཔར་ཐལ། འདོད་ལབ་ན། ལས་འབྲས་ཆོས་ཅན། སངས་རྒྱས་ལ་ལྐོག་གྱུར་ཡིན་པར་ཐལ། དེའི་ཕྱིར། ) And the same for manifest phenomena, one could say that the buddha realms manifest phenomena because of being manifest to its inhabitants. Does that make sense? That was fun thank you very much for taking the time to answer་🙏 བཀའ་དྲིན་ཆེ
Why do people feel that people who are "spiritual" are not allowed emotions? My practice is imperfect. I never claim I'm Buddha , I never say I am tao, or a master. I have hurt ..pain..emotion.. dialogue.. suffering. I try . I have been trying to follow the breathe and speak positively to myself. When I tell people about my spirituality. They expect me to be perfect... But I am human.. I have decided I only speak now from the Hara. But I still find myself saying things from the ego. And I deeply dislike it, even if the things it's saying aren't necessarily hurtful. I find most interactions in the culture I'm stuck in feels a bit...crass.. I want to help others..but I'm still trying to help myself be healthier...thank you for your videos.
Taoist teachings are a model for governance, every man an Emperor if you will, and every man lives by his own Governance. That which governs least...governs best. Surfing that big bad samsara, hanging ten and doing tricks. I would love to meet you and just talk. I am in NE Tacoma, and Bellingham, WA, and I go to Sol Duc hot springs in the Olympic National Park. I'm not...however, allowed in Ca-nada, as in I can nadda go there eh lol...they won't let me in! But hey, I will say come to visit sometime.❤
yesterdays esoteric mystery is tomorrows literacy. the biggest limitation of you teachers is you don’t treat us like we went to kindergarten. we arent bronze age peasants. thousands of years teaching this stuff, changes the game, progresses the goalposts, raises the floor
I have been speaking of this to you as well, in several comments, you asked me how I successfully navigated the three bardos...this lost western mystery school knowledge is the exact same as the eastern, and so, one led me to the other, but the dark night of the soul journey is when done...completion. check it out, plenty here on the tube on it, ❤
@@ultimatemeaning Theory and practice. Uniting the micro with the macro in order to attain a higher perception and understanding, or perhaps they were always one and the same. I'm glad you have an open mind. Rare to see in some nowadays.
@@ultimatemeaning Yes, it is visceral for everybody, unless you have no feelings or emotions. And I even think that these feelings of love, of compassion, are helpful in ones awakening, but, at least one eye must be kept on the Ideal of Non-Duality, whatever one wishes to call THAT!
@@ultimatemeaning And thinking about it.. The more one is capable of rising above duality, (quieting the ego along-the-way) and awakening from the dream, then the more peace one gains, naturally leaving behind the negatively visceral feelings and emotions. In other words, if non-duality is being lived, and experienced, (not just understood intellectually) then the chance for screwing-up, begins to fade.
My foolish mind sometimes seems to touch upon the tantric principle, as experienced in former lifetimes. There is a two-fold aspect to emptiness; non-duality and the principle of a relative and interdependent existence, whose contrasting mechanism functions by the (potentially harmonious) duality of yin and yang. Through sufficient detachment, the mind is calmed. Calmed, the energy is stabilised. Stabilised, the energy can be directed. Calm, stabilised, and capable of being directed, holding the non-dualistic principle in the mind directs the energy in such a way that it is capable of making contact with the transcendental realm of non-duality. However, non-duality and the Manifested are inseparable, like water is both formless yet at one with any form it may assume, at the same time. Therefore the "formless" leads to "form", and so non-duality leads to a harmonious integration and transcendental application of yin and yang. When yin is balanced with yang, when male and female join together skilfully, it is like adding -5 to +5, which equals 0 (zero), meaning the _formless_ and _non-dual_ (I think this is a principle in zero-point energy, as well). In this way, the formless seamlessly produces form, and form seamlessly produces the formless. When I saw the Tibetan gankyil, a three-fold yin yang symbol, this is the meaning it held for me; a threefold integration of transcendental non-duality, yin, and yang, with these three seamlessly producing one-another and existing in a functionally compatible manner, forming a "nirvana-field": *࿋* I had always wished to share my experience with a lama, but I am usually scorned by the religious world for these very experiences.
I think Buddhist have a misled tendency to negate God so you won't be much entertained by the Lamas.The Buddha was silent about God but did not DENY God. Your views are more consistent with Sikhism. Guru nanak -o lord beautiful in the forests thou art gr3en among the oceans thou are the grave I can be very wrong though.🤔🤔
@@BeALiteU2urself Thank you for your response; I'm not overtly familiar with Sikhism, though I'm aware they don't necessarily promote celibacy. I don't know if this is because they entertain the same view of unity between the dual and non-dual. _Sat-nam siri it wa-he guru_ 🙏
@@MysticCognition what struck me was the similarity of thinking between you and guru nanak,whom the Sikhs follow for no fault of his. Lord Buddha, Jesus and Nanak had no ambitions to conceive a new religion but were rather reformist who got religion thrust upon them after their demise. Guru nanak is widely considered the Buddha reincarnated and the philosophy of the both are so similar. Personally I'm against religion and I believe it's a spiritual suicide
@@MysticCognition I believe Jesus preached -ye are Gods You,I believe are right when you state that the dual and the non dual are intermingled. Allow me to show appreciation for your most original and radical thinking. It's much needed today
@@BeALiteU2urself Thank you for your kind words, and please allow me to humble myself. Personally, I respect religion, but I also inevitably feel the need to point out that Buddha himself was never Buddhist, just as Christ was never Christian, and Lao Zi was never Taoist (in the religious sense). Sages ever have a message of transcendence, around which people form a subjective culture and religion, a subjectivity which the initial teaching had actually transcended. The effect is, in my humble yet thorough experience, that transcendence or enlightenment itself becomes resisted as a form of blasphemy, leading to the spiritual stagnation that you mention. I truly and sincerely feel things like skilful means, ritual, and cultural elements harm the mystic's ability of modelling himself after his direct contact with the inner workings of reality. Wisdom, morality, and meditation don't require any religious sophistication; the Buddha attaining his enlightenment under the bodhi tree seems only to affirm this. However, I ever like to examine the validity of my experience and have respect for the spiritual capacity of the Lamas, sensei, shifu, etc. in that regard. Their wisdom may strike me down, when I feel they are right and I am wrong.
Isn't it that modern technology enables sharing, familiarization and practice of dharma in ways that was not possible before with the result of benefit? I understand the points of keeping teachings secret but I think we go too far when saying that "emptiness teachings can be harmful because they can be interpreted as nihilism" or something like that. There are and always has been those who study superficially and misunderstand things but is that a reason to keep the humanity from giving them openly the teachings that would set them free, perhaps countless numbers of them in every generation? I think it is this point justified by the danger of harm through misconception that has failed the practicing mahayana bodhisattvas from creating an international culture of true dharma, through liberating compassion. We also can't separate the political ramifications of secrecy which in old Tibet lead to exploitation and vast harm. Thank god, the age of secrecy is over, whether it is liked by the ancient policy makers and their present upholders or not. Even the Dalai Lama has stated that the time of secrecy is over. But apart from all these perspectives I think it is the bodhicitta and making true liberating teachings available to everyone who has basic necessities and wants to practice the dharma, that finally after thousands of years of geographical isolation and consequential problems can light up the world like it never was before. It is also a good point that all these nondualists who are stuck because they have only little bits and pieces of knowledge wouldn't be stuck if they had complete knowledge of the path and the result. This is a samsaric world of delusion and conflict because people are self-deluded and their buddhanature is self-secret for themselves. So why not help them?
How the heck ancient Indians and ancient east asians discovered the reality and nailed the metaphysics? Without any modern technology? Esoteric,profound teachings like non duality kept secret beacuse it is too difficult and hard to understand and a shocking,it shakes you to your core even as a theory let alone realizing it. Even non dualism as theory of book is very hard and difficult to make sense and comprehend. There are 8 billion people in this world and we are really really lucky few who have understand and comprehended the non dual theory (even if we not realize it) sometimes it feels like ignorance is bliss but i think this knowledge of theory is bliss. Its very hard to believe in materealism and stupidity that say we are just meat sack and popsicle and sack of few elements and chemical same as its very hard to belive religions zorganized religions and thier invisible man in sky fairytale god dogmas. elementszparticle and chemical are something. They are themselves mysterious and we are made of that. Empirical science has shot in its foot when it discovered quantum mechanics which is inexorably pointing to not just a mind but a non dual mind and non duality. It dosen't matter if materialists starts ti ridicule immaterialist when they give example of Quantum mechanics. The fact that science has spent 300 Years for chasing its own tail and another 500 Years to prove that consciousness is emergence but failed miserably and still can't come up with anything is enough to give a big blow to materealism philosophy.
The way I see it the fundamental paradoxes where apparent very early on as soon as we gained the ability to question our own existence. There have been many attempts to address these but aside from gaining a greater understanding of matter to a greater level of subtlety, there has been little or no progress regarding the ultimate truth. Having said that modern discoveries do help to prove the ancient positions of the ultimate 🙏🙏🙏
The future sometimes comes to me years in advance, but not always. I never seem to benefit from it. They're never really from me, Other people's frequency is the way for me to describe them.. Other people's dreams.,.. lot more, holy smolely.... I known all about negatively, I was born and raised in it, defeatisum was a blanket around me for about 40 years, , I didn't know how to love..
Hopefully this comment of mine isn't too outside this topic, and do correct me if i'm inaccurate or wrong Solipsism, this belief, may be similar to nihilism - not in that nothing matters, but only that i matter, and not you. The upanishads or the Atman scriptures, synonymous to Anatta, the true essence of man and all things acknowledged therein, that is this Atman, right....and with solipsism, is this state of "only i matter because only i exist" is like a pseudo version of the Atman teachings, in that Atman is all. But, solipsism is a dangerous belief is it not? With Anatta or Atman, is a lofty realization, whereas with solipsism, is that realization that's brought down lower to the carnal mind and is perverted. So it seems. Becoming indifferent to worldly things is good, but becoming attached to this and becoming inimical to the world can't be good. I'm still adjusting as i grow, learn, realize, experience and understand. I think the term embracing is a good because it doesn't seek to escape nor control, and in a since it is surrender. I understand the ancient greeks monistic metaphysics and apophasis, which is synonymous to netti netti and vedanta was the lofty realization of Brahman because God isn't any particular thing or condition...but what i see happens are people try to force this netti netti or apophasis and they become inimical towards the world, indifference becomes apathetic, no longer capable of seeind the divine light shine forth and through all things...because God isn't inimical towards the world...and God isn't escaping anything...but persons who claim this radical realization, it's somewhat easy to see whether they're genuine or not. If anything, becoming God like through apophasis or netti netti or vedanta, one should have and increase mercy for and understanding of the world, because all the good and grace here, experienced and seen is ultimately God. I find learning about others i learn much about myself. I make same mistake but in other contexts. But to embrace i think is a good state?
thats very abstract, how to progress in this? as a femiona, i suppose joiur masculine? im curious to the path peeps have found on this buddhist learning to become who jou can be-thing. . . do jou relate to a specific path, if i may ask. . . ?
There is no self in this life either. Our perception of "I," "me," etc, is an illusion. But while living, we have no choice but to carry on as if it's real.
Remi Geffroy 💃 Homeostasie title to find on Yt Mazurka-dance. Balfolk-repertoire. Dance this? that is tantric practice. Just normal. serrrender. Normal. Just As it Is. One man. One instument. 500 peeps dancing. man with fem. fem with man. fem with fem. man with man. One move, one flow. befoure him there was Stefaan Declic. same. Thoose 2 man gave me the oppurtunaty to experience tantra by music only thing i had to do is👨👦 alow me to move accoring to & surrender. thats it. if jou do jour absoluut, its always grace from god. He likes us to be happy. Normal forms. hope Ye all enjoi Remi. 👣
There is no future and no past, anyone who claims to see the past/future is imagining, assuming, and projecting. Nothing wrong with imagination but to claim yours is superior to others is grandiosity. If the future could be predicted it would mean there is no free will and no karma. I assume these are simple concepts, but noooo dogmas rule here. But hey, nice to see you speaking about Buddhism and not marketing the false Advaita teacher! Best wishes!
You better listen to this master,I am not buddhist but I can feel from the way he talks he is authentic,nobody needs your "WOKE ONESS" opinion,dogmatic parrot.
Dear Lama Choga, Siddhartha Gautama's father was disappointed in his son for his career choices. Until he became the Buddha the Supreme Surgeon! "Uttama Sallakatta." You are a surgeon on the frontlines of samsara. Wisdom scalpel of diamond blade, and compassion arm guiding so impurities are slayed! 💎🧡⚕️🪷
Quick red flag check that I use: are they/am I using this belief because it provides convenience? I sense that living in time is like living inside a kaleidoscope and watching all the processes, seasons, colors change with time. Our world never returns to the same location in space, it continually arcs and spirals on. The same poems have held entirely different offerings, in different points in my life. Because of who I was and what I was dealing with at the time. The same words are only gems when held to the light, and then able to illuminate. Stay regulated. 🩵✌️
All religion is powerful medicine. One must take great care not to scramble one's brain. The careful, wise, and compassionate approach is your sword and shield. 🐕🦺🙏🐕🦺
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If I may ask you one question: What are your thoughts on "attachment to detachment", as in: getting attached to the idea of achieving complete detachment from everything? Isn't getting attached to that idea also spiritually limiting?
Yes this is ultimately a mistake but provisionally quite important on the path. Please check out this series of videos on the final view that is beyond views for more on the Buddhist perspective of this topic:
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@@ultimatemeaning Thank you so much! I've had some thoughts and impressions about this both from my own mind and others, but this gave me new and deep input about the subject!
Attachment to detachment is like rubbing 2 sticks to make a fire, and when the spark finally comes, burn the 2 sticks to make the flame.
Man only changes when the changes are radical
@@BeALiteU2urself And yet evolution happens imperceptibly slowly over millions of years.... go figure? 🤔
Well spoken Choga la.. I remember a story His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama told of him giving a teaching on emptiness to a monk who was "not quiet ready for prime time" you might say. Upon hearing the teaching on emptiness the monk began to shake with a terrible fear because he interpreted it to mean "nothing existed" and thought that meant he was basically dead or simply "not real." It really scared the monk and His Holiness felt regret even as he corrected and comforted the monk.
I think it's a good story to keep in mind because in a way, at certain times or on certain levels, we are ALL like that monk in our fears and delusions.
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Very funny the young monks also react in this way when you talk about emptiness or no self 🙏
My partner has this aversion due to its association to nihilism.
I wonder if there is a path for people like this.
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If by "path" you mean a way to approach an understanding of emptiness (shunya) I would say study Nagarjuna and his treatise the "Mūlamadhyamakakārikā"
There are also many commentaries and even modern translations and discussions of that text.
A very good, concise but still challenging modern academic book that could help in this regard is "Appearance and Reality: The Two Truths in the Four Buddhist Tenet Systems.. by Guy Newland"
That book (which I studied in a classroom setting at a local monastery) is very helpful in that it's an investigation into various definitions and meanings of "emptiness" according to 4 different traditional schools or philosophical views (tenets).
Emptiness really means "empty of independence" - which means that ultimately (fundamentally) things are "real appearances" in that reality is what appears to us (appears to the mind), however, because those appearances are completely dependent on other "things" for their appearing it means there is no basis within that dream like appearance for any clinging or aversion. In fact, the terms "interdependence" and "emptiness" are synonymous (having the same meaning). This is explained in Guy Newlands book as the "prasangika" view which is the accepted "highest" view of most Tibetan schools of Buddhism.
But if you mean "path" to be another view of reality which rejects or interprets "emptiness" differently from the prasangika view (mentioned above) then there are several approaches like that ranging from theism to Bhakti yoga to Chittamatra to (Yogacara) to theravada Buddhism and even some tantric scools etc.
All such "paths" do have a kind of "emptiness" as their goal but express it differently - which may be more suited for different people or different mindsets.
Some of us however are not ready in this particular life to be a Mahayana Buddhist or to be a Tantra practicer which is fine, and so to "advance" on a spiritual path might mean for them embracing another view like theism or even materialism until their mind becomes open and subtle enough to go beyond those views.
Lastly, emptiness (at least a conceptual understanding of it) is considered a prerequisite for practicing Tantra according to most Tibetan teachers because without that understanding the person practicing Tantra will MISTAKENLY view the visualizations and experiences as either "real" (and thus a basis for clinging) or "not real" (and thus a basis for dismissing or rejecting them altogether).
In other words, without first understanding and accepting "emptiness-interdependence" when we practice Tantra (or glimpse a deep view of our true nature) we will easily fall into a mindset of either "permanence" OR "nihilism" - and neither of those mindsets are the true remedy to suffering.
Sorry for the long comment
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Excellent Dharma talk Lama Choga! This is the face of our Glorious and Unrivaled Kagyu Lineage that I like to see and fully support!!!
Sarvamangalam!!!
Thanks friend for the kind words! 🙏🙏🙏
Just wonderful, a buddhist master simply speaking about Truth. Just you and your voice, eloquently spoken English, nothing more, nothing less, perfection! Thank you, master 🙏 I'm subscribing for more mahayana buddhism.
Thank you Martin I appreciate the support but I am no master. I will try my best to speak the truth though! 🙏🙏🙏
Very well-explained, brother. We're all fortunate that you became a monk, instead of a surgeon. You're now a spiritual surgeon and the world is a better place. Blessings to you.
Dharma Teachings! How auspicious Lama Choga, Thank You 🙏
Sarvamangalam!!!!
Ive just discovered your videos. I consider myself on the fringe of spirituality, but it still has a heavy place in my life. I enjoy laying in bed and closing my eyes and listening to your teachings. There is no shame, only responsibility. This is how it should be.
I am happy to bring some help or comfort ♥
Personally I recommend getting into meditation if this type of spirituality speaks to you, when I first started delving into it meditation resonated with the things that made me interested in the first place
Some of us can handle the truth, and some cannot. I liked this, thank you.
I like the idea that you described "something can be a permissive structure for bad conducts", which implies any teachings/religions/ways of thinking is just a structure or framework that can have negative impacts if we are not careful with it. Your videos are very clear and the perfect material to me as someone who was exposed to Buddhism culture in my native language/culture, but learnt all my philosophies later in English.
This so true as the Lord Gampopa taught "The Dharma not practiced in accordance with the Dharma is a cause for being reborn in hell"
Because I live in Taiwan, I was introduced to Chinese Mahayana traditions, but later moved toward Theravada, which suited me very well because, to me, it was far simpler. But I am fascinated by Vajrayana. However, listening to your vid, I am thinking that I should perhaps be less adventurous. Thank you though. It was fascinating.
Yes many Westerners are far too "adventurous " with the Vajrayana and it is quite dangerous 🙏🙏🙏
That has done me a power of good. Love and blessings. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
You are very wise. Thank you for sharing with us.
Thank you for participating! ♥♥♥
I am grateful you exist and you share your words in a so easy-to-get-to media
Thanks very much much Savapine it is my pleasure!
This video came along at the perfect time; I am still very new to Buddhism after exploring other spiritual paths but from the limited time I practised zazen it helped me become more passionate and understanding. I am now interested in learning more about Tibetan Buddhism (I am in Scotland so I want to make a trip to Kagyu Samye Ling at some point) but I understand I need to take this path slow as I have always had a rushed mind and fall victim to what you describe as "getting it the wrong way".
Thank you Lama Choga and I look forward to watching more of your videos 🙏🏻
There is a good program of teachings at SL but also check out their schedule ate Holyise.org Many short retreats and a stunning location🙏🙏🙏
Very informative, thank you.
My pleasure Josh
Thank you for sharing with us , you are a spiritual treasure to the world!
Thanks for sharing your deep insights on these esoteric aspects. I find myself almost excited when you post these monologues, but I try to catch you in the morning when my mind is the clearest so there is true understanding.
I am also better in the morning, sadly these days the videos have to be recorded at the end of the day 😆🤣😆
@ultimatemeaning that is hilarious 😂 I wouldn't have known had you not said so. I am scared to make a channel of my own things, because I know others will enjoy them. And I don't want it to go to my head. What is your secret to staying humble?
Much appreciated Lama Choga 🙏🏼 Please be well
Thank Miguel as usual for your support♥
This is where for me it all falls short. Taoist teachings and Japanese Zen for me, fills that gap. I cannot understand why the maya cannot be altered to endure less suffering while we are here, I believe in retro-causality, and there is a way to change not only the future...but the past. The one thing I cannot change, touch, or grasp, is...now. prescience to see all things as they are.❤
Thank you so much for the teaching! It is sucha pleasure to hear you!
Thank you for listening! 🙏🙏🙏
Appreciate your wisdom 🙏 it aids me in keeping my mind and emotions in in balance. May we all meet on the path.
May yo find balance and equilibrium friend! ♥♥♥
Thank youuu Mr. Choga for the video. I've decided to get off off social media for a year or so, have limited myself to watching your channel and some other Buddhist oriented channels, social media has done nothing for me other than make me angry, depressed and an overall nihilistic view on everything 🙏.
🙏🙏🙏 Wise decision I hope you find tranquility in mental equilibrium 🙏🙏🙏
Ive recently started reading the Bhagavad Gita and have just finished the second chapter on the Karma Yoga.
I was quite surprised to find that when Krishna begins his discourse on the Yoga teachings, he would openly encourage Arjuna to commence battle and try and kill his relatives and beloved teachers. Im aware that Krishna is trying to explain that ultimate reality, the atman cannot die, and our actions in the physical world cannot change the Self.
It struck me that up until the chapter on the Karma Yoga, it all seems like an instruction on nihilistic existence ; much like what you’ve described about the modern take on non-duality.
Granted, I’ve just read the first two chapters of eighteen, and there is much more to interpret, but in reading the encouragement of Krishna to Arjuna to carry out his worldly duties, I could t help but feel disturbed.
Afterall, I feel the Four noble truths to be a great place to start learning about ultimate truth.
Is it just a case of pushing on and finding out what the Gita has to teach?
FWIW, I’m just trying to understand different traditions. Truth is truth, no matter the language used I suppose.
EDIT: at this point I also realise that the Gita describes birth-death-rebirth cycle ad infinitum. I haven’t uncovered any teachings on the release of maya (suffering). No spoilers please! 😁🤣
I have had very limited exposure to teachings on the inner meaning of the Gita, but from what I learnt in Pune, India these teachings are allegorical. So of the Tantric Buddhist teaching have a similar flavour to those you mentioned because, for example that one needs to kill one's mother and father, but as you guessed this isn't meant to be literal.
I have to say thought that there is a bid difference between the final Hindu message and that of Varjayana Buddhist regardless of how similar they appear on the outside.
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@@ultimatemeaning many thanks for taking the time to reply
thank you so much for this, peace and love
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I would consider myself a Chan/Zen Buddhist, however I have a great respect for all the schools. My first temple experience was at a Theravada temple, but the temple I became somewhat a member of was essentially a Chinese-Mahayana temple that basically embraced all the Chinese schools of Buddhism. I must admit though, Vajrayana is so fascinating. The tantric teachings, the teacher lineages, and the real life understanding of reincarnation within lineages (two good examples that come to mind are Palga Rinpoche and his holiness the Dalai Lama). Really great video Lama Choga, looking forward to part 2.
Palga Rinpoche is Awesome such a Bodhisattva(of course his holiness as well)
@@ultimatemeaning Palga Rinpoche’s story is so inspiring to me. He left Ladakh, became a millionaire in tech, realized it wasn’t for him and then became a monk and now spreads the Buddha Dharma. Fascinating individual and I agree he’s definitely a Bodhisattva.
I appreciate your teaching very much. Very much. I’m so grateful to have connected with it. It was Tara who came to me in a dream and helped me leave suffering behind. And Tara practice opened my world to all of Buddha Dharma. These are my musings in all things I’m growing.
That said, these tantric practices seem to contradict what we as humans know of the nature of normal humans. If you have celibate men alone imagining themselves as naked 16 year old girls. This… just seems like a kink. Particularly with the contrast to the teachings of Lord Buddha who is called Shakyamuni. Thai monks, who seem to have a more ancient tradition don’t have such practices and consider them obviously un enlightening for the reason I’m saying. It’s hard enough as a monk to be celibate, let alone with naked sixteen year old girls statues around in wild sexual activity.
I’m not sure because the roots seem so great. I hope to do Tara practice forever. It is not hard to see how enlightenment can be hidden in these things. And how exploring tantra can cause attainment in severing attachment. But obviously the Lord Buddha didn’t intend to give this out as his core teachings.
When I’m fasting I love to look at cooking shows and people eating. Afterwards I feel full. I wonder if that’s why these esoteric practices became so central to Tibetan Buddhism?
Thank you for your knowledge 🙏.
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I can’t help but to see the interdependence of one of my comments on secret and self secret on your channel and seeing this video now, that’s really cool! If people don’t have the karma to connect with dharma no matter how much it’s in their face or right next door they won’t see it. There’s an amazing Kalu Rinpoche stupa in Santa Fe NM USA and it can be seen as a glimpse over some miles away from several different directions. I know someone who drove passed this amazing stupa everyday to go to school and she never ever saw it, but when she met me, who was in the dharma, I knew of the stupa and I showed it to her, and she was completely blown away that through three years of passing it everyday she never saw it. But before we went and saw the stupa she had already been introduced to Buddhism, and when seeing the stupa it all clicked. She wasn’t ready to see it until that moment 😃 it was “self secret.”
Yeah I like to use these videos to broaden the discussion on topics that people raise in the comments section . It makes the community interactive and self perpetuating (also intra-active as this topic came up in relation to an upload from @eugenethephilosopher), so thank you again for joining the conversation 🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning Very Cool! Sincerly, thank you for all the good work you're doing - both known and unknown!!!
Hello, Lama Choga, I hope you are well. I've found your channel at a point in my life where I am experiencing a lot of emotional pain, through loss and subsequently through that dredging up other events from the past. As I think happens with many people, this hardship has caused me to re-evaluate the spirituality in my life (or previously, lack thereof). I come from a Catholic context, though never felt much kinship with that in my early youth, though may now explore that, but I have also developed a deep interest in Buddhism's spiritual aspects (whereas my interest has been more scholastic for the past few years). Regardless of which path I choose, I would like to give you my most humble thanks as your words and talks have brought a great deal of comfort to me in these uncertain times.
Thank you friend and I respect you courage for sharing your inner feelings. Study is important because it enables one to pursue their chosen path with confidence and conviction.
There is always hope and the path is never blocked
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Incredible video. I struggled with 'unearned wisdom' gained from psychedelic experiences a while back. I felt viscerally in those moments that it was only I, and despite being able to disregard solipsist machinations in the past, seeing it so clearly made ignoring it far more difficult. It was the most horrifying feeling, abject loneliness and simplicity that made me remember why I chose to forget it. I eventually realized I simply wasn't spiritually or cognitively ready to see the beauty in whatever that was, and made a decision to do away with everything mind-altering to see if I can come to those epiphanies the old-fashioned way. I'm not sure if what I saw is true, if I can ever be ready and if I really want to, but either way I'm glad to have this channel as a tool on my journey
This "unearned" or "illegal entry" into heaven as taught in the Kabbalah is perplexing because whereas they are valid experiences quite obviously to sustain that chemically will quite obviously drive you crazy.
These experiences can be inspirational, but until one gains independence in practice that doesn't depend on external conditions, one must persevere in one's quest
@ultimatemeaning Isnt kaballah a jewish form of mysticism?
@@MissionSilo Yeah it is the esoteric branch or mystical foundation of Judaism, and they also talk about the use of substances to "see god"
@ultimatemeaning Im not sure if it is considered an illegal entry into heaven (by the Jewish people), but I know little to nothing about that system, that faith, and its compatibility with Buddhist goals.
I know I have an interest in getting out samsara, and what I have learned confirmed what Buddhist said.
@@MissionSilo It is the term used in a book about Kabbalism by a Jewish scholar I read 40 years ago. Not my term ♥♥♥
All things move toward their end , Song of joy - Nick Cave .
Used to be a big Nick Cave fan, loved the bad seeds.
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I guess I'm definitely category one of people 😅 or close to it, it's the cat's curiosity combined with excitement/joy in mysterious/magical things .
Just sharing a personal experience. I myself received a specific teaching before I was ready for it. I had a difficult time sitting with it, and found it destabilising. My teacher showed me courage as a path, but my negative emotion got in the way of my relationship with the teacher and I had to take a step back to process on my own because of the lack of trust that came up for me. This made the journey very hard, but I guess it is not an easy journey? I did continue with other teachers and finally got to the place where I was able to integrate that specific teaching step by step over the last year and half. If I hadn't received the early teaching though I wouldn't have also searched for the knowledge that helped me become able to hold the teaching. I am wondering if this is sometimes the nature of the spiritual journey to explore and fail and explore again, especially for those of us for whom the journey began as a way of learning how to cope with trauma (leading to heavy childhood motivations for avoidance of presence and avoidance developing as a habit of mind).
@@buntobilli 🙏🙏🙏 Thanks for sharing your experience, sadly this is the most common obstacle to Western practitioners these days (not the case in Theravadin traditions like Ajhan Chan I think). And it is largely due to our thirst for high and profound teachings. It is said that the preliminaries are more important than the main practice and the truth of this is undeniable.🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning thank you for your response lama choga 🙏🏾.I will try to sit with my need to be the next shams 😂😅. It is bringing up another question for me that I have been thinking about and would much appreciate your thoughts on.
I work in the mental health field as a peer support person with both well and ill populations. Part of my work is teaching emotional regulation, and a lot of the techniques used in this field can be traced back to having roots in vipassana tradition. Because vipassana practice (among other things) has been such a major part of own journey in learning to manage my own mental health condition, it's also the easiest go to for me when I am working with a group and questions come up, its easiest for me to answer using meditation practice or to refer people to meditation practice. But because I am not trained in offering this teaching, it is a cause of concern for me how much I should talk about it because I don't want to cause unintentional harm. I would appreciate your guidance on this.
@@buntobilli Great question, there is a modern clinical movement in mindfulness and I think this is a good framework for presenting meditation techniques in a non religious context. But in general meditation and contemplation is common to all spiritual traditions and there is great scope to share these instructions in a generalised manner.
The main caveat is when it comes to specific and profound views as presented in the Buddha Dharma but also in other traditions like the Advaita vedanta.
However having said that there are reliable teachers such as Thich Nhat han who have written a lot of helpful information that is in the public domain and can be easily shared with others without any danger of ethical blunders. Citing these authors is probably all that is required.🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning thank you so much 😊 it's a load of my back and big help in figuring out what to go into what not
Thanks for the new shed of light on the for me still undiscovered tantra topic =)
More to follow next week (big topic)
hello lama, would it be possible for you to do a Lam-rim series? it would be so helpful!
There is one other side to that story which neither of us has explored, I think. In the words of a poet:
"Sorrow is knowledge, those that know the most must mourn the deepest, the tree of knowledge is not the tree of life".
The deepest knowledge would therefore mean the deepest sorrow. Which is probably not something that a random decent person needs.
There was the famous Kadamoa master LangriThampa. When Atisha asked how he was doing, they all replied that he cries all day long and almost never smiles (the only time he did smile was when he saw a mouse trying to steal a piece of jade from his altar)
Atisha thought this was excellent and saw his practice to be truly exceptional, a cut above the rest!
@@ultimatemeaning I really love the interplay of what you're saying with my random thoughts.
I'm 100% Europe-centric and have no idea about Eastern tradition. Your contribution is very welcome.
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Thank you for sharing your insight!
Thanks for watching friend
I understand what your saying about the misunderstanding related to the imagery. I have watched a guy research Hindu temples with similar images and he has shown it's really a multidimensional image shown as a flat one. They are not multiple arms but arms holding multiple wisdom teachings. It looks fierce since it battles the darkness of ignorance to create pure wisdom. Purity is the goal. The problem is a lot of people started the awakening community's and started to use certain information to start creating something else with it. If people don't have any access to the truth at this time they are more likely to believe the untruths and it will send humanity in a different direction so it's within the wisdom and discernment that must be taken on how much people are ready to understand.
Yeah this is so true and then it is so easy to get it all misconstrued!
My initial reaction to this video was somewhat negative due to the idea of secret knowlege and how I believe that practice has been abused by other religions, however I changed when I dug into the philosophy.
First off, the tantric images are beautiful, and hiding that from the public is completely reasonable.
In a previous comment I stated I didnt know if I was non dualist. I still dont know but I looked up more, and I got some confusing results. Rene Decardes aparently believed in a speration from the world of the mind and the body. And that sounds good on its face, so I almost believed I was a dualist. However I believe that everything is interconnected and not seperate. Which makes me a non-dualist apperently. I also believe in other parallel worlds and universes so that could make me a pluarist.
However, I could see how teaching non-dualism could be dangerous or misinterpreted. Also I could see how the practice you mentioned of seeing no objective morality as very dangerous. Ive long believed that while there isnt one objective moral code, that doesnt mean there arent still good choices and bad choices, just that each choice has individual circumstances and interpritations.
Also the teaching you mentioned about "nothing being real" I somehow completely understand. Its not that the universe isnt real it has more to do with conciousness shaping quantum probabilities. I get that I'm no physicist so I am open to change on this one. But it seems like our thoughts, our actions, have a very subtle influence on the world around us. There's a way to interpret that as reality changing itself around us or just the butterfly effect, that even the slightest change in mood can have far reaching consequences.
But even if the world is some kind of simulation, it still has rules. You arent on god mode in a videogame just because its "not real"
You raise some interesting point friend, and there is an important consideration- Because many people believe that one's view is a matter of choice. Where as it may be the case that one can choose which philosophic concepts one prefers when it comes to one's natural view of the world we have no choice. We are dualists and deciding to believe in non duality does nothing to change that. But this is a point that I have covered n many videos.
Also of notes, conscious collapse is only one theory of many on how something in an uncertain state can appear to become fixed but not everyone suggests that wave form collapse is necessary (for example in a multiverse model). The Buddha taught that no thing has fixed identity which kind of leans towards a position that doesn't require collapse.
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So when is part two coming out :3
Thank you ! Our language offers great possibilities of misunderstanding, even when we know the language game of the other very well, and of course even more when we hardly know the language game of the other. I am sometimes asked about the practice of meditation, and even the simplest things are often very difficult to convey, for example when I say that meditation (in my case zazen) is about letting go, this can be understood as pushing away or getting rid of, so I now say that things are left as they are, but even this does not describe well enough what is meant, there is still the possibility of misunderstanding. Language is difficult because we can only ever interpret words and sentences as a reference to our experiences! Much more important than thinking that I understand is now seeing how little I actually understand !
A high official visited Tao-hsin and asked him “May I give up my position and seek the truth?” Tao-hsin replied, “Yes, you may, but you will never find the truth.” The official was puzzled “What should I do then? Stay an official?” Tao-hsin replied, “It doesn't work like that either.” The man sat dumbfounded in front of Tao-hsin. He got up, ran to the door, ran back and sat down again.
Later, Tao-hsin said, “Understand or not, both are fatal.”
And this comes to the final essential point that I will attempt to cover next week on why the profound inner meaning should not be taught to everyone.
Thanks for sharing story and experience
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@@ultimatemeaning I'm very excited to hear your words and perspective next week , I'm glad to meet you ! 🙏
To overcome suffering, one must transcend good and evil.
Hello Lama Choga la. I was very interested in the Tantric aspect i.e the union of male and female spiritual energy which is the divine union. You asked me about Mount Athos. I have a strong connection to Gerontas Aimilianos who was Abbot of Simonoptera Monastery which looks just like a Tibetan Monastery perched on the top of a cliff. As I don't believe in coincidences! There has to be a connection. Love and blessings. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Wow it does look very much like a Tibetan monastery! Thanks for sharing that♥♥♥
In the west my Brother we call that compartmentalization of knowledge Gate Keeping...but I digress.❤
MAybe you are referring to something else?
@@ultimatemeaning you mentioned previously that some knowledge isn't for everyone, that there were sound reasons for it, I agree, but some can see far, look deep, and know things without knowing, nothing can hide from their gaze, take your example of Buddha needing to locate the mother, as his own gift of sight was limited, but Buddhas can see all. I think about what you say.
I struggle with the Indian names, but this fellow was wanting to locate his re-incarnated mother and couldn't find her.
@@ultimatemeaning why are some of us gifted with sight, or a knowing of a great truth, and other's cannot ever even attain a hint of it's essence? We are not all equal, this is evident, but what sets us apart? Knowledge, skills, and abilities. Self discipline, accountability, responsibility, this.
Lol. I just made Ramen and added Worcestershire while watching this video. I rarely use it. Blessings brother!❤
hahahaha ichi ban! A number one! I'll have to make that for my dad, he loves fish sauce😋
Cznt find previous comment about kaballah. What do you think of the hga? What about Santa Muerte? Heard she works with Tibetan deities quite well.
Haven't heard of her in fact I am not very informed about what is going on in the West. Most of my studies were in the Tibetan language and they never mention any Western teachers
@@ultimatemeaning She s a controversial being. How would I control a bad situation so I might be able to pursue the dharma?
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Buddhisms natural interrelation with Science is so comforting 🙏
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The last one: institutional abuse, & INTENTIONAL abuses pfff gracious im happy thats NOT my cuppatea sort-of-speak.
This teaching Lama, will be a other mindbreaker. Im sure. Thank jou for this. we need it here in the west.
peeps seems confused. . . .from the netherlands greatings mapia
Greeting Mapia!
@@ultimatemeaning Hey hallo dear Lama looking forwards. . . this teaching1 jou said it. Cept secret is one of the things why i cept my celebration & cermonies (for the dieties of the THANKA) JUST for the eyes to my kids & sometimes the peron who raised them with me. Its not a secret that i do gardening, but to be succesfull in jour work JOU HAVE TO PUT IN THE WORK not only tecniks like seeds & sticks & this negative emotions is here in the west a problem. Peeps deniel them or seems to cultivate them & rectefie them, all not aware of the suffering that brings it foreward, not onnly for themselfs. . . Thank jou Lama.
The Omega Lifescool in the netherlands works with thoose negative emotions, not only that. But 9 months in 2021 what was also my black moon liliith jear. . . & a jear integrating them, now a jear of reflecting on MY HARVEST. . .jep i can cope with alot of negativety & NOT loose nothing what is gained. Peeps not even knoe what a blackmoon lilith is, but if jour in. . . . jou know. that there is work to be done in the inner self.
Thank jou very very much. Lama
I'm someone fairly new to Buddhism and I'm considering Tantric empowerment.
How do you know when you are ready? Is this something the spiritual guide has to decide?
Most empowerments these days are given as a blessing and nothing more, and although receiving an empowerment in this way is traditional, the true purpose for taking empowerment is so that you are able to practice the relevant sadhana practice.
My own teacher takes this point very seriously and says that everyone should consider well before seeking empowerment.
In my opinion the most important considerations are 1. Seek them only from teachers that you have genuine faith in, 2. Preferably receive an empowerment that you intend to use for practice (but getting it from a Lama you have faith in as a blessing is totally valid, in fact if it is your root guru then you would want to receive every empowerment the confer). If you do seek empowerment as a blessing you should at least know what the practice is and a little bit about the main points of the practice are.
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The British did the same in regards to Hindu Tantric practices in India, this was due to an ignorance regarding the practises involved in Tantra. As soon as they would see the worship of the Divine mother Kali, they would think this is just some kind of cult of devil worshippers who belong to a primitive tribal nation. To this day those stereotypes are still believed not just in the west, but even among most Indians. Even the vajrayana images seem like Bhairava and his shakti in union, which is also represents the core philosophy of kashmiri shaiva tantra.
Yes this is so true, especially with the strong Christian bias in the times under British rule
Americans do it too though. Even today. I've heard them refer to mother Kali and various forms of Shakti as demons many times. Its very frustrating.
@@Shapeshifter1594 A huge issue with our Christian brothers especially the Baptists and evangelicals, all the more reason not to be careless with the teachings. But more to follow next week 🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning Yes. Definitely agree. I personally though have benifitted greatly from the teachings of emptiness (mostly from James Low) and Advaita Vedanta and Trika Shaivism, and will be eternally greatful for those teachings being made publicly available, I can also see how it could be grossly misinterpreted by someone whose not ready for it.
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Genla could you please explain the difference between བསྐལ་དོན་ and ལྐོག་གྱ྄ར? It seems the
So the first part of the video is about བསྐལ་དོན་གསུམ། that is དུས་ཀྱི་བསྐལ་དོན། ཡུལ་གྱི་བསྐལ་དོན། རང་བཞིན་ནས་ངོ་བོའི་བསྐལ་དོན། Then ལྐོག་གྱུར། is from Buddhist epistemology from the category of གཞལ་བྱ།་that is observable phenomena or knowable object from གཞལ་བྱ་གསུམ། that are མངོན་སུམ། ལྐོག་གྱུར། ཤིན་ཏུ་ལྐོག་གྱུར། That is directly perceivable phenomena, that which is not directly perceivable by the sense perceptions but for which one needs to rely on inferential cognition, such as the subtle sense faculties, no self, and the impermanence of sound, etc., ... and there is that which is extremely hard to perceive, for which we cannot rely on direct perception, not inference and therefore have to rely on the authority of an enlightened being (usually through scriptural authority). The examples are a treasure hidden under the earth (these days we have apparatus, Buddha realms (basically other dimensions), and the links between actions and results (as mentioned in the video regarding the workings of Karma).
So lets compare these categories: For example something that is obscured from me because of location, let's say it is in Melbourne and I am in Canada, may not be obscured from someone in Australia. So it is མངོན་གསུམ། or directly perceivable phenomena, its just that I can not perceive it directly. where as something that is རང་བཞིན་ནས་ངོ་བོའི་བསྐལ་དོན། is basically not directly perceivable to me and can be either ལྐོག་གྱུར། or ཤིན་ཏུ་ལྐོག་གྱུར། that is either an inferential object or an object only perceivable to a Buddha.
So in dialectics we could debate this point and say. The Andromeda galaxy isn't "directly observable phenomena" the retort would be that it is directly perceivable to an Andromedan.
Likewise you could say an object that isn't knowable by my sense organs is ལྐོག་གྱུར། and you could respond that "an egg in Australia isn't directly perceivable" which is false right?
Anyway you can see that there is crossover here, right?
@@ultimatemeaning ལག་སོ༏ཐུགས་ཆེ་རྗེ་རྒན་ལགས། I see. Then something's being a མངོན་གྱུརor ལྐོག་གྱུར་ depends more on the level of realization of the person rather on the objects nature, while something's being a བསྐལ་དོན་, apart from the person's level of realization, also depends on one's location, and the nature of the object (i.e. the subtlety of wifi waves, or the existence of immaterial beings like ghosts).
Otherwise, following your example, one could reach to the wrong conclusion that if something is hidden for oneself, it is hidden for everyone ( ལྐོག་གྱུར་ཡིན་ན་ལྐོག་གྱུར་ཡིན་པས་ཁྱབཔར་ཐལ། འདོད་ལབ་ན། ལས་འབྲས་ཆོས་ཅན། སངས་རྒྱས་ལ་ལྐོག་གྱུར་ཡིན་པར་ཐལ། དེའི་ཕྱིར། ) And the same for manifest phenomena, one could say that the buddha realms manifest phenomena because of being manifest to its inhabitants.
Does that make sense? That was fun thank you very much for taking the time to answer་🙏 བཀའ་དྲིན་ཆེ
What is the blue and yellow flag/banner behind you? I've tried googling so many things but I can't seem to identify it
It is called the dream flag of the 16th Karmapa, a Tibetan Guru♥♥♥
Why do people feel that people who are "spiritual" are not allowed emotions? My practice is imperfect. I never claim I'm Buddha , I never say I am tao, or a master. I have hurt ..pain..emotion.. dialogue.. suffering. I try . I have been trying to follow the breathe and speak positively to myself. When I tell people about my spirituality. They expect me to be perfect... But I am human.. I have decided I only speak now from the Hara. But I still find myself saying things from the ego. And I deeply dislike it, even if the things it's saying aren't necessarily hurtful. I find most interactions in the culture I'm stuck in feels a bit...crass.. I want to help others..but I'm still trying to help myself be healthier...thank you for your videos.
This is all part of the path and a sign of someone who is practising that. As Bankei said the greatest method is self (correction) criticism!🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning thank you for reading and responding. You are one of my favorite TH-camrs.
Taoist teachings are a model for governance, every man an Emperor if you will, and every man lives by his own Governance. That which governs least...governs best. Surfing that big bad samsara, hanging ten and doing tricks. I would love to meet you and just talk. I am in NE Tacoma, and Bellingham, WA, and I go to Sol Duc hot springs in the Olympic National Park. I'm not...however, allowed in Ca-nada, as in I can nadda go there eh lol...they won't let me in! But hey, I will say come to visit sometime.❤
yesterdays esoteric mystery is tomorrows literacy. the biggest limitation of you teachers is you don’t treat us like we went to kindergarten. we arent bronze age peasants. thousands of years teaching this stuff, changes the game, progresses the goalposts, raises the floor
I wonder what do you think about the Dark Souls trilogy, which touches on many of your predilection subject, if you know about it.
Haven't heard of it friend but will try to look it up thanks for the recommendation
I have been speaking of this to you as well, in several comments, you asked me how I successfully navigated the three bardos...this lost western mystery school knowledge is the exact same as the eastern, and so, one led me to the other, but the dark night of the soul journey is when done...completion. check it out, plenty here on the tube on it, ❤
A lot of people conflate it with sex. But symbolically, sex is all about the uniting of opposites. Whether internally or externally.
🙏🙏🙏 Yes and in terms of Buddhism it is Method and wisdom
@@ultimatemeaning Theory and practice. Uniting the micro with the macro in order to attain a higher perception and understanding, or perhaps they were always one and the same. I'm glad you have an open mind. Rare to see in some nowadays.
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🙏🏼Lama Choga, please consider this: Is Fire’s intent to burn, to purify, to pulverize, to provide heat, to turn things into ashes? 🔥🤔💭
Fire has no intent right, in fact fire isn't a thing combustion it is a process 🙏🙏🙏
Duality is a dream, it is relative, it is not the Ultimate Truth.
Agreed, but the dream for us is visceral
@@ultimatemeaning Yes, it is visceral for everybody, unless you have no feelings or emotions. And I even think that these feelings of love, of compassion, are helpful in ones awakening, but, at least one eye must be kept on the Ideal of Non-Duality, whatever one wishes to call THAT!
@@ultimatemeaning And thinking about it.. The more one is capable of rising above duality, (quieting the ego along-the-way) and awakening from the dream, then the more peace one gains, naturally leaving behind the negatively visceral feelings and emotions. In other words, if non-duality is being lived, and experienced, (not just understood intellectually) then the chance for screwing-up, begins to fade.
My foolish mind sometimes seems to touch upon the tantric principle, as experienced in former lifetimes.
There is a two-fold aspect to emptiness; non-duality and the principle of a relative and interdependent existence, whose contrasting mechanism functions by the (potentially harmonious) duality of yin and yang.
Through sufficient detachment, the mind is calmed. Calmed, the energy is stabilised. Stabilised, the energy can be directed. Calm, stabilised, and capable of being directed, holding the non-dualistic principle in the mind directs the energy in such a way that it is capable of making contact with the transcendental realm of non-duality.
However, non-duality and the Manifested are inseparable, like water is both formless yet at one with any form it may assume, at the same time. Therefore the "formless" leads to "form", and so non-duality leads to a harmonious integration and transcendental application of yin and yang. When yin is balanced with yang, when male and female join together skilfully, it is like adding -5 to +5, which equals 0 (zero), meaning the _formless_ and _non-dual_ (I think this is a principle in zero-point energy, as well). In this way, the formless seamlessly produces form, and form seamlessly produces the formless. When I saw the Tibetan gankyil, a three-fold yin yang symbol, this is the meaning it held for me; a threefold integration of transcendental non-duality, yin, and yang, with these three seamlessly producing one-another and existing in a functionally compatible manner, forming a "nirvana-field": *࿋*
I had always wished to share my experience with a lama, but I am usually scorned by the religious world for these very experiences.
I think Buddhist have a misled tendency to negate God so you won't be much entertained by the Lamas.The Buddha was silent about God but did not DENY God.
Your views are more consistent with Sikhism.
Guru nanak -o lord beautiful in the forests thou art gr3en among the oceans thou are the grave
I can be very wrong though.🤔🤔
@@BeALiteU2urself Thank you for your response; I'm not overtly familiar with Sikhism, though I'm aware they don't necessarily promote celibacy. I don't know if this is because they entertain the same view of unity between the dual and non-dual.
_Sat-nam siri it wa-he guru_ 🙏
@@MysticCognition what struck me was the similarity of thinking between you and guru nanak,whom the Sikhs follow for no fault of his.
Lord Buddha, Jesus and Nanak had no ambitions to conceive a new religion but were rather reformist who got religion thrust upon them after their demise.
Guru nanak is widely considered the Buddha reincarnated and the philosophy of the both are so similar.
Personally I'm against religion and I believe it's a spiritual suicide
@@MysticCognition I believe Jesus preached -ye are Gods
You,I believe are right when you state that the dual and the non dual are intermingled.
Allow me to show appreciation for your most original and radical thinking.
It's much needed today
@@BeALiteU2urself Thank you for your kind words, and please allow me to humble myself. Personally, I respect religion, but I also inevitably feel the need to point out that Buddha himself was never Buddhist, just as Christ was never Christian, and Lao Zi was never Taoist (in the religious sense).
Sages ever have a message of transcendence, around which people form a subjective culture and religion, a subjectivity which the initial teaching had actually transcended. The effect is, in my humble yet thorough experience, that transcendence or enlightenment itself becomes resisted as a form of blasphemy, leading to the spiritual stagnation that you mention.
I truly and sincerely feel things like skilful means, ritual, and cultural elements harm the mystic's ability of modelling himself after his direct contact with the inner workings of reality. Wisdom, morality, and meditation don't require any religious sophistication; the Buddha attaining his enlightenment under the bodhi tree seems only to affirm this.
However, I ever like to examine the validity of my experience and have respect for the spiritual capacity of the Lamas, sensei, shifu, etc. in that regard. Their wisdom may strike me down, when I feel they are right and I am wrong.
Isn't it that modern technology enables sharing, familiarization and practice of dharma in ways that was not possible before with the result of benefit? I understand the points of keeping teachings secret but I think we go too far when saying that "emptiness teachings can be harmful because they can be interpreted as nihilism" or something like that. There are and always has been those who study superficially and misunderstand things but is that a reason to keep the humanity from giving them openly the teachings that would set them free, perhaps countless numbers of them in every generation? I think it is this point justified by the danger of harm through misconception that has failed the practicing mahayana bodhisattvas from creating an international culture of true dharma, through liberating compassion. We also can't separate the political ramifications of secrecy which in old Tibet lead to exploitation and vast harm. Thank god, the age of secrecy is over, whether it is liked by the ancient policy makers and their present upholders or not. Even the Dalai Lama has stated that the time of secrecy is over. But apart from all these perspectives I think it is the bodhicitta and making true liberating teachings available to everyone who has basic necessities and wants to practice the dharma, that finally after thousands of years of geographical isolation and consequential problems can light up the world like it never was before. It is also a good point that all these nondualists who are stuck because they have only little bits and pieces of knowledge wouldn't be stuck if they had complete knowledge of the path and the result. This is a samsaric world of delusion and conflict because people are self-deluded and their buddhanature is self-secret for themselves. So why not help them?
How the heck ancient Indians and ancient east asians discovered the reality and nailed the metaphysics? Without any modern technology?
Esoteric,profound teachings like non duality kept secret beacuse it is too difficult and hard to understand and a shocking,it shakes you to your core even as a theory let alone realizing it. Even non dualism as theory of book is very hard and difficult to make sense and comprehend. There are 8 billion people in this world and we are really really lucky few who have understand and comprehended the non dual theory (even if we not realize it) sometimes it feels like ignorance is bliss but i think this knowledge of theory is bliss.
Its very hard to believe in materealism and stupidity that say we are just meat sack and popsicle and sack of few elements and chemical same as its very hard to belive religions zorganized religions and thier invisible man in sky fairytale god dogmas. elementszparticle and chemical are something. They are themselves mysterious and we are made of that. Empirical science has shot in its foot when it discovered quantum mechanics which is inexorably pointing to not just a mind but a non dual mind and non duality. It dosen't matter if materialists starts ti ridicule immaterialist when they give example of Quantum mechanics. The fact that science has spent 300 Years for chasing its own tail and another 500 Years to prove that consciousness is emergence but failed miserably and still can't come up with anything is enough to give a big blow to materealism philosophy.
The way I see it the fundamental paradoxes where apparent very early on as soon as we gained the ability to question our own existence. There have been many attempts to address these but aside from gaining a greater understanding of matter to a greater level of subtlety, there has been little or no progress regarding the ultimate truth.
Having said that modern discoveries do help to prove the ancient positions of the ultimate
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The future sometimes comes to me years in advance, but not always. I never seem to benefit from it. They're never really from me, Other people's frequency is the way for me to describe them.. Other people's dreams.,.. lot more, holy smolely.... I known all about negatively, I was born and raised in it, defeatisum was a blanket around me for about 40 years, , I didn't know how to love..
How wonderful I hope you can use this skill to benefit others
@@ultimatemeaning good advice. Thanks., I think giving homeless people in Las Vegas cold water would be more productive..
i always feel like a drunken monkey when i pop in here for a bit
Monkey mind is wild and outtta control! 😆🤣😆
Hopefully this comment of mine isn't too outside this topic, and do correct me if i'm inaccurate or wrong
Solipsism, this belief, may be similar to nihilism - not in that nothing matters, but only that i matter, and not you.
The upanishads or the Atman scriptures, synonymous to Anatta, the true essence of man and all things acknowledged therein, that is this Atman, right....and with solipsism, is this state of "only i matter because only i exist" is like a pseudo version of the Atman teachings, in that Atman is all. But, solipsism is a dangerous belief is it not?
With Anatta or Atman, is a lofty realization, whereas with solipsism, is that realization that's brought down lower to the carnal mind and is perverted. So it seems.
Becoming indifferent to worldly things is good, but becoming attached to this and becoming inimical to the world can't be good.
I'm still adjusting as i grow, learn, realize, experience and understand. I think the term embracing is a good because it doesn't seek to escape nor control, and in a since it is surrender.
I understand the ancient greeks monistic metaphysics and apophasis, which is synonymous to netti netti and vedanta was the lofty realization of Brahman because God isn't any particular thing or condition...but what i see happens are people try to force this netti netti or apophasis and they become inimical towards the world, indifference becomes apathetic, no longer capable of seeind the divine light shine forth and through all things...because God isn't inimical towards the world...and God isn't escaping anything...but persons who claim this radical realization, it's somewhat easy to see whether they're genuine or not. If anything, becoming God like through apophasis or netti netti or vedanta, one should have and increase mercy for and understanding of the world, because all the good and grace here, experienced and seen is ultimately God.
I find learning about others i learn much about myself. I make same mistake but in other contexts.
But to embrace i think is a good state?
No self = no rebirth.
Well is no self valid in this life then? 🤔
thats very abstract, how to progress in this? as a femiona, i suppose joiur masculine? im curious to the path peeps have found on this buddhist learning to become who jou can be-thing. . . do jou relate to a specific path, if i may ask. . . ?
@@ultimatemeaning as in no self existing in this experiential lifetime, at least tangibly in the mind, but emerging or manifesting after death?
There is no self in this life either. Our perception of "I," "me," etc, is an illusion. But while living, we have no choice but to carry on as if it's real.
@@themowgli123 So do we experience rebirth or not?
Remi Geffroy 💃
Homeostasie title to find on Yt
Mazurka-dance. Balfolk-repertoire.
Dance this? that is tantric practice. Just normal. serrrender. Normal. Just As it Is.
One man. One instument.
500 peeps dancing. man with fem. fem with man. fem with fem. man with man.
One move, one flow.
befoure him there was Stefaan Declic. same.
Thoose 2 man gave me the oppurtunaty to experience tantra by music
only thing i had to do is👨👦 alow me to move accoring to
& surrender.
thats it.
if jou do jour absoluut, its always grace from god. He likes us to be happy. Normal forms.
hope Ye all enjoi Remi. 👣
There is no future and no past, anyone who claims to see the past/future is imagining, assuming, and projecting. Nothing wrong with imagination but to claim yours is superior to others is grandiosity. If the future could be predicted it would mean there is no free will and no karma. I assume these are simple concepts, but noooo dogmas rule here.
But hey, nice to see you speaking about Buddhism and not marketing the false Advaita teacher!
Best wishes!
You better listen to this master,I am not buddhist but I can feel from the way he talks he is authentic,nobody needs your "WOKE ONESS" opinion,dogmatic parrot.
You make me a better person and a wiser, smarter, kinder anarchist. 🐈⬛🪷☸️
Elly you are a bester person, who just don't know it yet! 🙏🙏🙏
Oh goodie, I can't wait
I'm not able to join the live. Will catch it on the replay. Looking forward to hearing your perspective on this topic, Lama. 🙏🏼🩵💫
Pleas watch at your leisure 🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning Will do. Thank you so much. 🙏🏼🩵💫
Dear Lama Choga, Siddhartha Gautama's father was disappointed in his son for his career choices. Until he became the Buddha the Supreme Surgeon! "Uttama Sallakatta." You are a surgeon on the frontlines of samsara. Wisdom scalpel of diamond blade, and compassion arm guiding so impurities are slayed! 💎🧡⚕️🪷
Mine is a chainsaw (gotta be careful with that one!) 😆🤣😆
@@ultimatemeaning 🤣
Quick red flag check that I use: are they/am I using this belief because it provides convenience?
I sense that living in time is like living inside a kaleidoscope and watching all the processes, seasons, colors change with time. Our world never returns to the same location in space, it continually arcs and spirals on.
The same poems have held entirely different offerings, in different points in my life. Because of who I was and what I was dealing with at the time. The same words are only gems when held to the light, and then able to illuminate.
Stay regulated. 🩵✌️
All religion is powerful medicine. One must take great care not to scramble one's brain. The careful, wise, and compassionate approach is your sword and shield.
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I'm not able to join the live. Will catch it on the replay. Looking forward to hearing your perspective on this topic, Lama. 🙏🏼🩵💫
Any time
@@ultimatemeaning Thank you, Lama. 🙏🏼🩵💫