I'm not black, not American and not part of the culture. But even to the people who care about this stuff overseas, what you say about Drake using his blackness as a commodity and leaning on artists for clout or legitimacy is clear to see. Drake cares about image, success and engagement. Kendrick cares about hip hop and the communities who listen to it. The Heart PT.6 was for Drake's ego and his fans. Not Like Us was for the people.
Still saying Kendrick took too long to drop Euphoria tells me you still don’t get it. He took that long on purpose. It was a chess move. It gave Drake confidence that Dot wouldn’t be able to keep up with Drake’s pop star machine. Drake took the bait at every turn. Kendrick was in full control of this beef from start to finish.
anecdotal story here but i didn’t even know drake dropped push ups or any of the songs prior to this beef happening, but when kendrick dropped euphoria everything was popping of on my timeline. as a bystander I could see that kendrick dropped it at the most opportune time
kendrick is true definition of boogeyman, not only was he in full control the whole time, he even straight up said "do not go there" multiple times shows he has class also, he does not need dirty tricks to win, he tells u exactly what will happen, it is on u to heed his warning, that's the reason I never clowned cole for apologizing, this beef was something he did not want to be apart of
Not to mention, Kendrick has been calling Drake out for the better part of a decade, and Drake just got the confidence to respond. If anything it was us as Kendrick fans waiting for Drake to step up all this time
Drake was made in a lab. An amazing lab with all the right formulas. Kendrick is indigenous. There is ancestral wisdom pouring out of him that you can never buy. He is a King. That's it. They do not serve the same purpose.
That’s why Kendrick and Drake beef is so polarizing and iconic, both of there audiences are massively diverse and global sentiment already showed who won. You had a random Japanese dude go viral for dissing Drake on the BBL Drizzy mix 😂
Drake is an authentic pop artist. But if a pop artist claims to be a rap artist when he isn't, then he's fraudulent. No one calls Green Day frauds. They know their lane and are a great pop band.
I think it’s funny that nobody likes to mention Aubrey was the first one to bring up family members and allude to accusations. Kendrick told him not to do that or he will take it further. Now it’s “woah, where are the facts.” As if Aubrey ever presented any. Pathetic.
You don't thank the man for coming in your house rearranging the furniture, and cosplaying like he part of the family. So many talented artist were ignored or shelved, because labels were pushing Drakes ABC autotuned raps.
Kendrick also said to Adonis that HE’S black (when ethnically Drake is more “black” than him) so Kendrick is trying to instill in Drake’s own mostly “white” son to remember the heritage and to respect it so he doesn’t turn out like his father. So it’s crazy to me that people trying to call out Kendrick for being “racist” or problematic towards Drake ethnicity. Kendrick just hates how Drake uses blackness for his own gain without knowing or respecting the culture.
My first time watching this podcast, loving it so far. one point they missed was that Kdot song "Not Like Us" is actually #1 in TORONTO & Canada, so Kendrick got West Coast & drakes home base as well. legendary
to clarify - the unreleased track was a sample that could not be cleared (Al Greene I believe), a shame as it is produced by Jack Antonoff, who produces for Taylor, and it deserves to see streaming. and all the diss songs are not fully copyrighted on TH-cam so creators earn all ad money for their reaction video when it's played.
@@JP-bs8gl this is true, but he had to. his fan base isn't as big, it's a bit like who had the better/bigger speakers. This was the Art of War applied to rap beef
Guadalajara, México 🇲🇽. People that dont care about hiphop are asking me about the beef and they're posting "Not like us" in their insta stories. Its a hit.
And the people who are upset that it’s deeper than rap are exact people hip hop was formed to upset. They’re comfortable with the commercial and cozy hip hop…and that’s what Drake gave/gives them. Makes “accessible.” Kendrick and the depth of what he is saying makes them a feel uncomfortable.
The sad part is that Drake had been waiting for 10 years for this... and now he has a video with more dislikes than likes and he was getting dragged so badly that people actually think the shooting at his home was staged. For that narrative to even present itself just speaks to the volumes in which Drake lost.
as a k-dot fan but also someone invested in the beef who doesn't absolutely despise Drake (yet)I was very disappointed in the response. it just misfired on all fronts - if you can't deflect it without seeming tone deaf and guilty, diss kenny some more, and get the meaning of his songs right and stay off reddit and twitter conspiracies. the whole thing should have been thought through a little more.
Yup but can we agree Nas’s Ether went nuclear just as Kendrick’s Big 3 songs not just one 3 are out of here! Drake needs to just do r n b stay out of rap!
Yup he stole Xxx’s style and flow, and his song!!! Drake has stolen from 90’s rappers it’s all there. In rap it’s not cool to steal, they will come for you. Well Drake take this L. Maybe retire. Or don’t rap just sing. Stay in singing mode. There is no come back from this!
What Ebro just said about Kendrick sound versus Drake sound is unbelievably profound and the reason why not like us has been so effective it’s culture not commerce
Ebro has really grown on me over the years. He’s really gotten wise over the last few years. I used to disagree with him so much but he’s 100% spot on with everything he said in this interview. Props to him man. Love to see it!
@@flawed911 exactly. I think he’s shed a lot of his ego and looks at things more objectively and just being around hip-hop all these years makes him a lot better for this type of journalism.
I have zero respect for Drake and we don’t need facts. This is about perception. Drake’s hubris and sloppy management of his brand allowed himself to be painted as a fake, colonizing pdf file. Kendrick didn’t pull all that from thin air. Drake did it to himself.
Kendrick played a west coat anthem vs a foreigner in an egregious play. It's a dog whistle to the country. Especially after they systematically otherised him. It's the cheapest shot in rap history. This wasn't about rap
EXACTLY! Now because he losing money we supposed to go back to sleep and pretend he didn’t kiss the underage girl in front of his audience! FOOLISH! He calling and telling a 13-14 yo girl HOW MUCH HE MISS HER! Meeting these naive teens at 14yo and being their very best friend until they turn 18 and bring them out to the public dating! Lastly! On instagram talking about how he cannot wait until Baka gets home from prison. A couple of ppl did research shows what he was in prison for… human trafficking and prostitution?? Your best friend??
Drake will keep his Gen Z, white, Jewish fans. However, this beef has completely separated him from the culture and core hip hop community. His career will be referenced in the future as “before Kendrick beef” and “after Kendrick beef” no doubt.
🎯 🎯🎯🎯🎯 exactly! Kendrick, Bruce Lee Kapowed Drake to Uranus or Saturn not the moon! Drake got the 1973 A-- whipping where your momma chasing you with the belt all the back to Texas! Where you can’t sit down. It’s really that bad!
The Number of views on this podcast prove that people appreciate the greater and deeper conversation beyond just the music. Great Job to the everyone speaking in this podcast.
The fact that Ebro is dropping major knowledge on the cast and they are dismissing how kdot is schooling Drake with black knowledge is crazy to me… Ebro keep schooling them 💯
Ebro actually knows the culture in the boundaries within he don’t overstep his self he knows the history behind it if we had a FBA VS Pan African draft we taken him over Charlemagne any day
@@Groover71stop it. Because I used to hate Ebro back in the day for the way he capes for Drake...this is a complete 180 and he happens to be right and exact. You can call him alot of things but a Drake hater aint one of them.
I am 68 a songwriter from Suriname/South America I know both artists and so do my adult children and my grandkids. Love the lyrics of Kendrick. He is really gifted.
From the east coast and can’t stop playing K-Dot over and over and over. Never played his music like this before. Now I get why he is where he is. Love that he is so versatile and on such a high level
Only Karens couldnt get their head round it, we even understood it when rick ross said it, that was common playful talk growing up, ive seen a black person call another black person a white man before 😂
Simple people took what Kendrick said as him calling Drake not black because he's mixed. Drake continuously proves that he isn't connected to black people on any level beyond superficial. Never speaks on civil issues, makes crazy comments, etc.
Even before that. Push-ups he mentioned his wife. On euphoria & 6:16 k dot could’ve snapped back but he warned him BOTH times but he still didn’t listen.
Diss records are about attacking the opponent's CHARACTER!! This means that none of the bars need to be true, but it needs to be things attached to your Brand that can be used against you. Example: Why does Drake sound so surprised people think he has a hidden daughter when 1. he had a hidden son and 2. his Album cover for Certified Lover Boy has 12 pregnant women on it?
I heard Not Like Us in three peoples cars, at the store I was in line and somebody was blasting it no headphones, AND I was listening to it in my headphones all in the same day after it dropped… I’m in Maryland!
Kendrick won , because he planeted the seed in ppls mind that can dismantle this mans legacy in hindsight. And that seed will grow over the years & generations .
He just signed a 400million deal and the label and Nike unhappy with the ped talk because they got to much money invested to have kenny ruin there product without proof
The thing is people have been saying this stuff about Drake for some time so he didn’t plant it, he watered it which is worse for Drake. He just substantiated what people were already thinking and he said it over good songs so I agree this stuff will stick to Drake. What Drake said about Kendrick won’t stick to him.
@@Jasminemarie94 they said it but were ppl paying attention to it as a collective hit piece ? That matters when it comes to sociology of the masses and the psychology as an individual. Now the last info stitches together to paint a bigger picture makes sense to the masses & that seed will now take root in ppls minds.
@@bekongwu602 I think I know he won because he’s a better artist . However, the masses didn’t believe that because they loved drake so much & kept saying he was competition & he was not. Now since Kendrick put together a dismantle diss of the embodiment of what Drake is . The smoke is clearing & they can see what true hip hop is . Kendrick is the essence of it
I think y’all are missing the blow Drake just took to his image. There were random people from all over the world dissing Drake on a bbl drizzy beat. Like the cultural shift can not be understated. He may be on the charts again but he will never see the same level of respect and attention.
Never? The man just finished 90+ shows WHILE DOING THIS BATTLE! Drake has the respect and attention, just maybe not from Kendrick fans who didn't like him anyway.
Imma fan of his music and switched up on him real quick! lol I will not be seeing him the same after this. That psychology bs in rap battling works lol
Kendrick is not a hip hop artist...he's a generational artist in general. He's saying, with these "battles", I can dominate every area of the English speaking word.
Late to the party. I'm an old white guy and a life long musician. Kendrick is The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Stevie Wonder, Hendrix - a generational artist that changed the game and transcends hip hop and channels universal truths. Drake just wants your money and adoration.
It's so strange cause kendrick was so smart about it he didn't directly insult any of drake's family he was talking to them about drake which is something drake was never able to do he always inserts rapper's wife's/girlfriends in the beef and called them wh*res kdot could've easily said that drake's bm was s*x workr but instead he said to his son don't hide and be ashamed of ur women like ur dad he took the righteous route and the beat/ delivery made the whole thing sound like horror movie it
@@lemina6180 yeah that eeri piano was sinister... but the idea, theme, plot, delivery and maturity or from kenny was devilishly dark, it was unquestionable the babajega was in the room... I was horrified too listening to it, yet coundnt stop... Shock and awe... in the most direspectful way possible... we need a music video to this Horror movie... Certified boogeyman.
As someone from the UK who literally grew up Snoop, Dre, then Game that west coast type sound been my favorite music period since i was 12-13 years old Not Like Us brought me back to my child hood and ive played it non stop since it dropped
@@sparis80The guy wearing a cap having the yellow print on his top is so clueless. The lady seemed alright but dude kept talking cluelessly over her each time she tried to talk. I got sick of listening to him. Dude was exceptionally clueless!!
ebro saying “that’s not even on the table” for ever stopping listening to drake is wild, if everything kendrick said is true how can you listen to drake, sitting back and waiting
Kendrick won by TKO. But the biggest win is THE CULTURE. Gen Z finally got a taste of REAL HIP-HOP and it's beautiful. Dissecting lyrics, GOAT debates, fact-checking artists, and holding artists to HIGH STANDARD is what defined the 90s/early 2000s and made it THE GOLDEN ERA. Artists sparring for the title happened like EVERY MONTH back then. It's the checks and balances of the game that keeps it alive and healthy and exactly what's been missing and why the muzik is so awful today. Thank God for KDOT.
@@obinnaiwudike7644 Gen Z rap is irrelevant. Ain’t nobody with common sense concerned with it 😂 this is about the young listeners who have now got a taste of what’s real and there’s no going back. Gen Z RAPPERS gone have to step they game up lol or get left behind
@@MasonDixie Im just a casual fan. I’m not concerned with this. I listen to ally types of music. The older and younger generations should get along and build instead of this tiresome generational comparison.
Everyone been dodging it with a 10 foot pole and not a soul has denied the allegations. This is definitely not something that can just “wait and blow over”
It's going to be crazy in a few years when he goes down for real, in the legal sense, and all these people will get online saying, "We had no idea, how could we have known!" like there's not a number one hit song spelling it out for everyone explicitly.
Am i the only one that feels like hip-hop media is downplaying the effect this is gonna have on Drake's career? It honestly feels like these media heads are just rolling right past how severe these allegations are..
I am from Atlanta, and the Atlanta artist will lose respect from the community if they do a record with Aubrey as of right now. He can't colonize like he used to. It would honestly be damaging to the smaller artist
This is way beyond rap beef. This is even beyond Drake vs. Kendrick. This is a real battle between the powers that be and the voices like Kendrick and others that are looking to claim this thing back that we care so deeply about that people like Drake come and steal for their own profit. Thank you Kendrick for standing on this hill and representing for the people that really care about this music don’t let these suits make you budge!!!
How can Drake steal his own version of creativity from you though. Do we really need to villainize to revive the culture? Itll never make sense to me🤷🏿♂️
@@takundag_ there’s a difference between being creative and stealing, or inauthentically engaging with cultural practices that already exist. The lack of respect that people collectively have in hip-hop for Drake is due to his own poor character, and his caricaturizatuon of a multitude of Afro diasporic traditions, none of which he belongs to. In order to be creative, you have to be original,and the heart of the matter is that Drake is not original, he’s more or less a thief. There’s a reason why so many people feel that way about him, and I do think that people “villainising” him for that behaviour is fair. Much the same as it’s fair when we are upset by non-black people doing that. It’s not better because Drake is black.
Drake f’d up and didn’t think (at all) about what a battle w/ Kendrick would do to his personal and professional life. He thought it would just be a basic surface level battle…
1:17: 💥 Analysis of Kendrick Lamar and Drake's ongoing beef, focusing on the importance of facts, momentum, and cultural impact. 4:53: 💥 Analysis of Kendrick Lamar's diss track and Drake's response, focusing on lyrical missteps and regional influence. 10:19: 🎤 Analysis of Kendrick Lamar's impact on LA unity and Drake's strategic missteps in hip-hop. 15:25: 💥 Analysis of Kendrick Lamar's critique on Drake's identity and sound in latest release. 20:15: 💥 Analysis of Kendrick Lamar's critique of Drake in the hip-hop space and the importance of cultural representation in rap. 25:11: ⚔️ Analysis of Kendrick Lamar's critique of Drake's cultural authenticity and impact on hip-hop community. 30:10: 🎤 Analysis of Drake's resilience in hip-hop amidst criticism and competition from Kendrick Lamar. 35:13: 💥 Exploration of morality in hip-hop beef between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, highlighting respect for Drake's resilience. 40:31: 🎤 Discussion on Kendrick Lamar and Drake's recent music releases, analyzing their impact and momentum. Recap by Tammy AI
100% right nobody said Drake is not black. Everybody is saying Drake does not represent black culture. He is a culture vulture and those text messages with his mom proves it.
@@sincityquinn That comment clearly explained it and you still misunderstood. Cole represents black culture; Drake uses, at least thats the implication, personally I am neutral :)
Greetings! I am a 70 year cello player from Zurich. I am here to tell you that myself and everyone else in my city are extremely invested in this situation occurring between the American rappers. We've been listening to "not like us" repeatedly since it came out. We mostly agree that "heart part 6" is too defensive and sounds like he's trying to quit, or "tap out." Guten tag!
Drake was telling kendrick to Drop Drop Drop Drop
Now drake telling kendrick to Stop stop stop stop
😂😂😂
Lol... same thing I was saying
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂
“You following through!”
I'm not black, not American and not part of the culture.
But even to the people who care about this stuff overseas, what you say about Drake using his blackness as a commodity and leaning on artists for clout or legitimacy is clear to see.
Drake cares about image, success and engagement. Kendrick cares about hip hop and the communities who listen to it.
The Heart PT.6 was for Drake's ego and his fans.
Not Like Us was for the people.
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Well said
Exactly
Well said
Still saying Kendrick took too long to drop Euphoria tells me you still don’t get it. He took that long on purpose. It was a chess move. It gave Drake confidence that Dot wouldn’t be able to keep up with Drake’s pop star machine. Drake took the bait at every turn. Kendrick was in full control of this beef from start to finish.
anecdotal story here but i didn’t even know drake dropped push ups or any of the songs prior to this beef happening, but when kendrick dropped euphoria everything was popping of on my timeline. as a bystander I could see that kendrick dropped it at the most opportune time
kendrick is true definition of boogeyman, not only was he in full control the whole time, he even straight up said "do not go there" multiple times shows he has class also, he does not need dirty tricks to win, he tells u exactly what will happen, it is on u to heed his warning, that's the reason I never clowned cole for apologizing, this beef was something he did not want to be apart of
Not to mention, Kendrick has been calling Drake out for the better part of a decade, and Drake just got the confidence to respond. If anything it was us as Kendrick fans waiting for Drake to step up all this time
OK you can say Drake’s taking too long to drop now lol what 12 days and counting
THIS!!!
Drake was made in a lab. An amazing lab with all the right formulas. Kendrick is indigenous. There is ancestral wisdom pouring out of him that you can never buy. He is a King. That's it. They do not serve the same purpose.
that part
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This is top tier comment
Drake also uses Universal Music Group’s stream
Manipulation formulas to keep the same lame records a top of the charts
Amen 🙏
Kendrick Lamar did warn Drake on RICH SPIRIT .... "STOP PLAYING WITH ME BEFORE I TURN YOU INTO A SONG"
And since 1st person shooter I've been telling these young ones Mr Morale and the Big Steppers was KDot with the gauntlet glove.😌🤷🏿♂️
@bootlegvibranium9720 So,true.
Yea he also went at Cole and tbh that’s my favorite song and I’m fans of all 3 of them
RICO LAMAR
Another double entendre
I'm a rock/metal guy and I've been listening to Euphoria and Not Like Us on repeat all weekend. Kendrick is universal.
That's dope... give me some great rock recommendations my g
I been humming uuummm uuummm all weekend.. every time some body say something I don’t agree with 😂😂😂😂
Same here . These tracks of Kendrick slam so hard for me . Been listening atleast once in a day since came out.
DUN DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN 🎵🎵🎵
That’s why Kendrick and Drake beef is so polarizing and iconic, both of there audiences are massively diverse and global sentiment already showed who won. You had a random Japanese dude go viral for dissing Drake on the BBL Drizzy mix 😂
We blasting Not Like Us in Puerto Rico! 🇵🇷
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On God!🇵🇷
We are blasting it here in Canada. 😂😂😂 My daughter was cleaning, and I heard here saying, " A Minorrrrrr"
🤣🤣🤣🤣@@yolandawilson9852
@@yolandawilson9852😂😂😂 🎉🎉
Kendrick won and united the entire culture against a fraud.
Exactly. Kendrick united the entire world against Drake.
Kendirck is the biggest fraud
I Love that!!!❤
Drake is an authentic pop artist. But if a pop artist claims to be a rap artist when he isn't, then he's fraudulent. No one calls Green Day frauds. They know their lane and are a great pop band.
that part! right on the ✊🏽
I think it’s funny that nobody likes to mention Aubrey was the first one to bring up family members and allude to accusations. Kendrick told him not to do that or he will take it further. Now it’s “woah, where are the facts.” As if Aubrey ever presented any. Pathetic.
He was warned multiple times
Well isn't that what "they" do...act out then when we respond they immediately play victim!?
@@Sencaholicyup
@@ChocoBeauty8 yup. As Kendrick said, “guess integrity is lost when the metaphors doesn’t reach you.”
Yep I
I’m a middle class mother from England and I have Not Like Us on repeat. THIS TRACK IS GLOBAL. Drake has definitely got a problem here 😂😅
Exactly he karate kid kapowed Drake to Uranus!! 🚀🚀🚀🚀🤣🤣🤣
No you are not
@@Morris774 LOLOL
Two stepping in a Barbour Wax Jacket?
Kendrick got the momentum and we bumping not like us in Zambia 🇿🇲🔥🔥💯
Here in south africa also
Aye Zambia Stand up!! 🇿🇲 ❤
wow!
Lol yall not jammin that mid 🤣🤣 everybody jumping on the cap bandwagon
“They not like us”🫂🇿🇲
You don't thank the man for coming in your house rearranging the furniture, and cosplaying like he part of the family. So many talented artist were ignored or shelved, because labels were pushing Drakes ABC autotuned raps.
AMEN!!👏🏽 Best comment!
Kendrick is what hip hop is supposed to be about, unifying cities and shining light on different cultures.
But Kendrick is putting the culture back where it belongs - with us
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Yes, he unified all of us....
Kendrick just a rat lol
God's plan.
We bumpin NOT LIKE US all day here in South Africa 🇿🇦
No we Not
@@faraimutekwa1436yeah we are .. maybe you listen to elevator music
@faraimutekwa1436 Yes, we are. Speak for yourself.
@@faraimutekwa1436yes we are
@faraimutekwa1436 Staaap bro. We are. 😤
Kendrick also said to Adonis that HE’S black (when ethnically Drake is more “black” than him) so Kendrick is trying to instill in Drake’s own mostly “white” son to remember the heritage and to respect it so he doesn’t turn out like his father. So it’s crazy to me that people trying to call out Kendrick for being “racist” or problematic towards Drake ethnicity. Kendrick just hates how Drake uses blackness for his own gain without knowing or respecting the culture.
Everyone got the message. It's just corny white suburban kids that don't know lmao
Thank you! I think it’s ppl choosing ignorance b/c there is NO WAY u can’t understand it’s about cultural awareness not actual color
You get it
Drake a whole Bojangles tap dancing for Masa & them
I am a Kdot fan but I can't ignore the hypocrisy of Kdot calling Drake white because I'll bet that Kendrick has never called Whitney white.
Impact? Global reach? They bumping it in the clubs in the Philippines. Not Like Us is a certified record setting global banger 💯
This! Exactly....these nonhip hopers on here need to stay in the pop lane Smh.
Because it involves drake
@@ozee7404 wild take, you do know people aren't dancing to it because of the lyrics, right?
@@chomosuquePeople are singing the lyrics as they dance. 😂😂
Kendrick isn't just claiming his region he's claiming the whole culture. ✊🏾
❤ it
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Nas been done that, this isn’t a new venture here.
💯 They are underestimating Kendrick's impact and how it's speaking to a whole lot of us. The P question is just another layer.
Depends on who you ask 😂
Dropping that A Minorrrrr bar at 69 seconds was the chefs kiss.
Didn’t even catch that 😂😂😂😂😂 69 god
Ain’t no way 😂
Just fact checked and it’s true 😂
@@everyotherbar65😂
The song before was said to be in A minor
The industry is compromised; Kendrick shined the light.
My first time watching this podcast, loving it so far. one point they missed was that Kdot song "Not Like Us" is actually #1 in TORONTO & Canada, so Kendrick got West Coast & drakes home base as well. legendary
The best thing about this.beef was kendrick won with music. He didn't need social media or memes, his music was the only weapon he needed!!!
im a Kendrick fan he is my goat but this not true.. He played Media and Mind games heavy. And Won.
to clarify - the unreleased track was a sample that could not be cleared (Al Greene I believe), a shame as it is produced by Jack Antonoff, who produces for Taylor, and it deserves to see streaming.
and all the diss songs are not fully copyrighted on TH-cam so creators earn all ad money for their reaction video when it's played.
He used shock value allegations and a great roll out of songs. It wasn’t just quality of music
@@JP-bs8gl this is true, but he had to. his fan base isn't as big, it's a bit like who had the better/bigger speakers. This was the Art of War applied to rap beef
@@JP-bs8glhe didn’t until he released not like us. That was the stamp of the trolling beating Drake at his own game
Guadalajara, México 🇲🇽. People that dont care about hiphop are asking me about the beef and they're posting "Not like us" in their insta stories. Its a hit.
This battle is OVER, Kendrick won decisively and left us dancing. THE END!
I’m saying though . I’m C-walking all summer lol
idk if it’s the end but yea he won against drake fs
ALL OF THIS IS JEALOUSY LEAVE DRAKE ALONE THATS RIGHT HE IS NOT LIKE THEM BECAUSE HE IS RAISED IN TORONTO AND NOT AMERICAN!!!!THANK GOD
Didn’t drake also bow out?
@@fantasma8253 YES!
At this point just categorize Drake as pop. He ain’t hip hop. He ain’t part of the culture. He ain’t like us.
I been saying this since he came out... dunno why everyone is just seeing this smh.
@@americanbaki😂💯💯💯
never has been
if you say drake won, you just don’t like hip hop
Lol you don't know hip hop if you think drake is hip hop
We know Kendrick won, get over it. But it was a closer boxing match than people are making out.
No one cares about your opinion. Life goes on.
@brandnewday2750 it was a one sided beating...K-Dot by KO
By what metric sir?
The way Ebro stood on business should be rewarded
Ebro earned my respect with this discussion, smart man- he gets it! it’s deeper than RAP!
And the people who are upset that it’s deeper than rap are exact people hip hop was formed to upset. They’re comfortable with the commercial and cozy hip hop…and that’s what Drake gave/gives them. Makes “accessible.” Kendrick and the depth of what he is saying makes them a feel uncomfortable.
I love how he said, what is your sound? What is yours? The accuracy
I'm here in Toronto. We used to have a sound but it died in the 2000s. Now all we do is imitate Americans. I'm talking about Hiphop and RNB.
He didn’t say Drake wasn’t black, but he did call Drake, B-Rad from Malibu’s Most Wanted. 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
B-Rad was a fraud like Drake
Yeah, B-Rad was a fraud, just like Drake.
THIS!! 🤷🏽♂️
The sad part is that Drake had been waiting for 10 years for this... and now he has a video with more dislikes than likes and he was getting dragged so badly that people actually think the shooting at his home was staged. For that narrative to even present itself just speaks to the volumes in which Drake lost.
Meek Mills walked so Drake could run.
That's because for Drake it's always PR and staging for him. You live like a phony eventually everyone gonna believe you.
I thought they shot so cops get inside to investigate and finds evidences 😂😂😂
as a k-dot fan but also someone invested in the beef who doesn't absolutely despise Drake (yet)I was very disappointed in the response. it just misfired on all fronts - if you can't deflect it without seeming tone deaf and guilty, diss kenny some more, and get the meaning of his songs right and stay off reddit and twitter conspiracies. the whole thing should have been thought through a little more.
@@marcoreccagni152😂 I didn't think of that, clever!
If JayZ or Nas had the same character flaws that Drake did, please believe that would have been used in their battles. Drake is his own worst enemy.
Yup but can we agree Nas’s Ether went nuclear just as Kendrick’s Big 3 songs not just one 3 are out of here! Drake needs to just do r n b stay out of rap!
"Not Like Us" is not just a regional hit, it's a regional statement to the world
Love, from South Africa 🇿🇦
✊🏽✊🏽 tgat part!
Bro Not Like Us is booping outside of California. Can yall please be frfr.
It grew legs & is running EVERYWHERE
yes it is but i'm from new york and we love that record out here but thats a heavy west coast song
People from Zambia, Puerto Rico and France are commenting.
@@trulyauthentic1980I'm from Indiana watching CANADIANS bop to it.
That song is undeniable
I’m from Namibia, Africa. Trust me we know the west coast sound and we know that Kendrick won that! We are bumping Not Like Us!
Wow 🤩
Let them know sis
@@ZeeCosmo that’s a sister bro o
Same thing in Uganda and Kenya
Not our cousins across the big waters recognizing facts! Alright now!✊🏾
Kendrick tarnished Drake's career. That's crazy because he's been allowed to get away with so much for so long. Kendrick won no debate !! 🐐
GIRLS THAT LISTEN TO DRAKE ARE BASIC BITVHES
😂😂😂😂 sureee
@@MiracleEuroright! 😂😂😂
Yup he stole Xxx’s style and flow, and his song!!! Drake has stolen from 90’s rappers it’s all there. In rap it’s not cool to steal, they will come for you. Well Drake take this L. Maybe retire. Or don’t rap just sing. Stay in singing mode. There is no come back from this!
@@Morris774 cope
😂people in france playing no like us in a champions league game where 100s of millions of people are watching
Seriously ? During psg vs dortmun ? I missed that
@@eddythewire3755because it’s a lie
Thank you
😂😂😂😂😂
Why? Is Paris, France “the hood” where mad black people live, or are we more likely to see mixed race people like Le Twins from there?
What Ebro just said about Kendrick sound versus Drake sound is unbelievably profound and the reason why not like us has been so effective it’s culture not commerce
It's like Lion King when Simba came and took his pride back and kicked scar out. It's like yeah Lion but you're not like us.
@@RiceRossCrispyapple #1 and Spotify #1 overtaking Taylor Swift it’s not just west coast.
Culture vulture don't have a sound
I'm from jhb and my 8 year old came in today singing they not like us
@@ravbruh6357just heard the music on your page. I see why you hate Drake lol
Kendrick is exposing Drake as a cultural appropriator who has no hip-hop authenticity.
If you waited 15 years for kendrick to point that out to you, you failed at analysing hip hop 😅😂
There are so many rappers over the decades we can all call culture vultures but it would hurt a lot of your feelings.
Yep. 616 proved this. Think about Drake attempting a track like that and just laugh to yourself lol
@@koketsomogashoa9015stop supporting perverts
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To the young lady, this is global. Kendrick is poppin in the mother continent 🤣
Not like us is universal, listening from Jupiter rn
Lol
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Bro.. 😂🤣
Dang I’m dancing on 🪐
lmao :D :D
Ebro has really grown on me over the years. He’s really gotten wise over the last few years. I used to disagree with him so much but he’s 100% spot on with everything he said in this interview. Props to him man. Love to see it!
Bro same. I used to hate his takes on hip hop. Lately hes been making alot of sense.
It’s because we’re all getting older. But Ebro is a very sound facilitator for these convos, he’s absolutely an underrated voice in hip hop
That's cause he used to be a hater
@@flawed911 exactly. I think he’s shed a lot of his ego and looks at things more objectively and just being around hip-hop all these years makes him a lot better for this type of journalism.
I have zero respect for Drake and we don’t need facts. This is about perception. Drake’s hubris and sloppy management of his brand allowed himself to be painted as a fake, colonizing pdf file. Kendrick didn’t pull all that from thin air. Drake did it to himself.
Thank you… He did it to himself.
Kendrick played a west coat anthem vs a foreigner in an egregious play. It's a dog whistle to the country. Especially after they systematically otherised him. It's the cheapest shot in rap history. This wasn't about rap
EXACTLY! Now because he losing money we supposed to go back to sleep and pretend he didn’t kiss the underage girl in front of his audience! FOOLISH! He calling and telling a 13-14 yo girl HOW MUCH HE MISS HER! Meeting these naive teens at 14yo and being their very best friend until they turn 18 and bring them out to the public dating! Lastly! On instagram talking about how he cannot wait until Baka gets home from prison. A couple of ppl did research shows what he was in prison for… human trafficking and prostitution?? Your best friend??
I agree
@@Olivierstreetyou drake fangirls are so wet..ughh
Drake will keep his Gen Z, white, Jewish fans. However, this beef has completely separated him from the culture and core hip hop community.
His career will be referenced in the future as “before Kendrick beef” and “after Kendrick beef” no doubt.
🎯 🎯🎯🎯🎯 exactly! Kendrick, Bruce Lee Kapowed Drake to Uranus or Saturn not the moon! Drake got the 1973 A-- whipping where your momma chasing you with the belt all the back to Texas! Where you can’t sit down. It’s really that bad!
White people support and purchase Kendrick’s music more than POC and the numbers prove that. Racist
I'm from Paris... I've listened to Not Like US everyday since it was dropped
Kendrick literally planted some money trees 🌳 letting content creators eat off the beef
content creators already eat enough, they ain't starving
@@surfingbilly9654that's not the point. Kendrick let them eat. That's the point.
The "A MINOOOOOOR" line is so classic
The Number of views on this podcast prove that people appreciate the greater and deeper conversation beyond just the music. Great Job to the everyone speaking in this podcast.
The fact that Ebro is dropping major knowledge on the cast and they are dismissing how kdot is schooling Drake with black knowledge is crazy to me… Ebro keep schooling them 💯
Ebro a top 5 hater.
And for a top 5 hater to be spot on as he is in this particular video says alot@@Groover71
Ebro actually knows the culture in the boundaries within he don’t overstep his self he knows the history behind it if we had a FBA VS Pan African draft we taken him over Charlemagne any day
@@Groover71stop it. Because I used to hate Ebro back in the day for the way he capes for Drake...this is a complete 180 and he happens to be right and exact. You can call him alot of things but a Drake hater aint one of them.
I am 68 a songwriter from Suriname/South America I know both artists and so do my adult children and my grandkids. Love the lyrics of Kendrick. He is really gifted.
Look up xerolaw. American musician. I'll check ur music
The East Coast, specifically Detroit and the South, even Canada rocking with Kendrick!!
Kendrick been winning round for round, he already won this!!!
From the east coast and can’t stop playing K-Dot over and over and over. Never played his music like this before. Now I get why he is where he is. Love that he is so versatile and on such a high level
That Mos Def interview is aging like fine wine
Big facts
For real.
Very much so
wish more ppl brought that back up
Every word.
Two years ago ppl didnt "THINK" Drake could rap with Kendrick, he should have kept it there, because now they "KNOW" he cant.
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You're cooked if you believe this
@@Olivierstreet naw think you’re cooked.
Yep
Hip hop fans dancing like crazy to Not Like Us at the club in Dublin, Ireland
We bumping NOT LIKE US in Egypt 🇪🇬
London, Uk in the house. They Not Like Us blasting alllll over the endz 🙌🏿.
Thanks for addressing the Drake being mixed comments. It was never about Drake being mixed, it was about how he treated the culture.
Only Karens couldnt get their head round it, we even understood it when rick ross said it, that was common playful talk growing up, ive seen a black person call another black person a white man before 😂
Simple people took what Kendrick said as him calling Drake not black because he's mixed. Drake continuously proves that he isn't connected to black people on any level beyond superficial. Never speaks on civil issues, makes crazy comments, etc.
In Vancouver we were blasting it this weekend at the Canuck’s NHL playoff game. 🏒
Bye Aubrey.
♥️ 🇨🇦
@@Dr.JudeAEMasonMDno fokin way! This would hurt 😂😭
No it’s deffo because he’s mixed … black American men hate biracial men but want their kids to look like them
Y'all forget that Drake started this when he accused Kendrick of beating his wife
Kendrick got a whole album about his marital problems. It’s not new. Plus relationship issues aren’t as crazy as what drakes accused of.
@@RocketToMyBrain Big facts
@@RocketToMyBrainbut nothing about beating his wife
Even before that. Push-ups he mentioned his wife. On euphoria & 6:16 k dot could’ve snapped back but he warned him BOTH times but he still didn’t listen.
don’t matter who started it’s about who ended it 🤷🏽♀️
Drake is Canadian. He sees American Black History and Civil Rights as not his fight.
That is why he is Not Like Us
@@jazz93but if he was a woman that be your black queen . Clowns
Diss records are about attacking the opponent's CHARACTER!! This means that none of the bars need to be true, but it needs to be things attached to your Brand that can be used against you.
Example: Why does Drake sound so surprised people think he has a hidden daughter when 1. he had a hidden son and 2. his Album cover for Certified Lover Boy has 12 pregnant women on it?
Bro you dumb
@@dutmatchroompool Bro you dumb
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THANK YOU, AGREED. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Drake has always tried to come in and change the rules of hip hop. Now disses have to be club records, it was never like that util he came.
I’m from Jamaica and I’m playing “they not like us” everyday!!!
What up yard man 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Facts am in Iceland 🇮🇸 playing it
yessiii, WEST END sEEEEinGG???!!!
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I heard Not Like Us in three peoples cars, at the store I was in line and somebody was blasting it no headphones, AND I was listening to it in my headphones all in the same day after it dropped… I’m in Maryland!
Kendrick won , because he planeted the seed in ppls mind that can dismantle this mans legacy in hindsight. And that seed will grow over the years & generations .
He just signed a 400million deal and the label and Nike unhappy with the ped talk because they got to much money invested to have kenny ruin there product without proof
The thing is people have been saying this stuff about Drake for some time so he didn’t plant it, he watered it which is worse for Drake. He just substantiated what people were already thinking and he said it over good songs so I agree this stuff will stick to Drake. What Drake said about Kendrick won’t stick to him.
He won because he is a better artist.. Drake wanted to be petty and lost on that too…
@@Jasminemarie94 they said it but were ppl paying attention to it as a collective hit piece ? That matters when it comes to sociology of the masses and the psychology as an individual. Now the last info stitches together to paint a bigger picture makes sense to the masses & that seed will now take root in ppls minds.
@@bekongwu602 I think I know he won because he’s a better artist . However, the masses didn’t believe that because they loved drake so much & kept saying he was competition & he was not. Now since Kendrick put together a dismantle diss of the embodiment of what Drake is . The smoke is clearing & they can see what true hip hop is . Kendrick is the essence of it
I think y’all are missing the blow Drake just took to his image. There were random people from all over the world dissing Drake on a bbl drizzy beat. Like the cultural shift can not be understated. He may be on the charts again but he will never see the same level of respect and attention.
Never? The man just finished 90+ shows WHILE DOING THIS BATTLE! Drake has the respect and attention, just maybe not from Kendrick fans who didn't like him anyway.
Exactly. Drake will still be popular, but now he’s never shedding that cornball image lol
Imma fan of his music and switched up on him real quick! lol I will not be seeing him the same after this. That psychology bs in rap battling works lol
Facts, he’s been dethroned
Kendrick is out here making Chinese restaurants in Toronto great again. The same place where drake got robbed
Kendrick is not a hip hop artist...he's a generational artist in general. He's saying, with these "battles", I can dominate every area of the English speaking word.
Late to the party. I'm an old white guy and a life long musician. Kendrick is The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Stevie Wonder, Hendrix - a generational artist that changed the game and transcends hip hop and channels universal truths. Drake just wants your money and adoration.
Meet The Grahams will go down as the most disrespectful record of all time...
It's so strange cause kendrick was so smart about it he didn't directly insult any of drake's family he was talking to them about drake which is something drake was never able to do he always inserts rapper's wife's/girlfriends in the beef and called them wh*res kdot could've easily said that drake's bm was s*x workr but instead he said to his son don't hide and be ashamed of ur women like ur dad he took the righteous route and the beat/ delivery made the whole thing sound like horror movie it
That was trash lol I swear people a deaf
@@lemina6180 yeah that eeri piano was sinister... but the idea, theme, plot, delivery and maturity or from kenny was devilishly dark, it was unquestionable the babajega was in the room... I was horrified too listening to it, yet coundnt stop... Shock and awe... in the most direspectful way possible... we need a music video to this Horror movie... Certified boogeyman.
@@PR-WAY You a F.A.N, You a F.A.N, You a F.A.N, You a F.A.N, You a F.A.N, You a F.A.N, You a F.A.N...
Where’s the daughter 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ just say u hate drake
As someone from the UK who literally grew up Snoop, Dre, then Game that west coast type sound been my favorite music period since i was 12-13 years old Not Like Us brought me back to my child hood and ive played it non stop since it dropped
"Notice how i said we, I'm what the culture feeling"
Everybody OVERTHINKING except Ebro and headphone dude
Facts! How did the other 2 get on the podcast?
@@sparis80The guy wearing a cap having the yellow print on his top is so clueless. The lady seemed alright but dude kept talking cluelessly over her each time she tried to talk. I got sick of listening to him. Dude was exceptionally clueless!!
@@ikeanumba4233agreed
Canada is loving not like us...we never claimed that dude.
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Yikes!
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ebro saying “that’s not even on the table” for ever stopping listening to drake is wild, if everything kendrick said is true how can you listen to drake, sitting back and waiting
And you'll still keep bumping lil Kenny if he a woman beater though🤣🤣🤣
They are bopping to "They Not Like Us" globally, even in Toronto.
It’s The #1 song on Apple Music in Toronto
The amount of videos I’ve seen of Toronto people turning up to that song is absolutely hilarious 😂😂
You know it is bad when you cannot win in your hometown 😮
Kendrick dropped 6:16 knowing it was a fathers day reference. Explain how the timeline works where Drake "fed him that info" like stop it.
We blasting Not Like Us in Kenya 🇰🇪
Ebro needs his flowers on this one
Yh ebro has his corny moments but this was a great convo 🫡
Stg! Ebro cooking on this one fr fr
Wow! I literally just said I been mad at Ebro for five years… Now we cool again! Love his takes today!
Rare W from him
Kendrick won by TKO. But the biggest win is THE CULTURE. Gen Z finally got a taste of REAL HIP-HOP and it's beautiful. Dissecting lyrics, GOAT debates, fact-checking artists, and holding artists to HIGH STANDARD is what defined the 90s/early 2000s and made it THE GOLDEN ERA. Artists sparring for the title happened like EVERY MONTH back then. It's the checks and balances of the game that keeps it alive and healthy and exactly what's been missing and why the muzik is so awful today. Thank God for KDOT.
Why do concerned about genz focus on your own generation
@@obinnaiwudike7644 Gen Z rap is irrelevant. Ain’t nobody with common sense concerned with it 😂 this is about the young listeners who have now got a taste of what’s real and there’s no going back. Gen Z RAPPERS gone have to step they game up lol or get left behind
I couldn't have said it better 💯
@@MasonDixie Im just a casual fan. I’m not concerned with this. I listen to ally types of music. The older and younger generations should get along and build instead of this tiresome generational comparison.
@@obinnaiwudike7644 facts is facts. Get out your feelings
Can we also be clear? Drake DOES NOT even have Toronto. NOT LIKE US is the biggest streaming song in Toronto TOO rn
Not Like Us on repeat (Switzerland 🇨🇭 )
Kendrick not only unified LA, California, different nationalities but even different groups, from young to old to older.
Lady! I'm in Europe, Belgium and we ARE jamming to "not like us" 🤣🤣😂😂🤣
wow!
And you don't see the irony obviously
@@Olivierstreet🤭💀pls let her listen in peace
@@Olivierstreet Explain the irony?
@@MasterIceyythat song is not on her side
Are we not going to talk about how Kendrick said Drake is basically part of a sex ring??? That’s a very specific allegation.
Apparently not! Everyone is oddly quick to move past whenever it veers close, now that you mention it...
Everyone been dodging it with a 10 foot pole and not a soul has denied the allegations. This is definitely not something that can just “wait and blow over”
The big fruity logo in the back lets yoi know
It's going to be crazy in a few years when he goes down for real, in the legal sense, and all these people will get online saying, "We had no idea, how could we have known!" like there's not a number one hit song spelling it out for everyone explicitly.
lol, do not belive everything u hear
Am i the only one that feels like hip-hop media is downplaying the effect this is gonna have on Drake's career? It honestly feels like these media heads are just rolling right past how severe these allegations are..
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I am from Atlanta, and the Atlanta artist will lose respect from the community if they do a record with Aubrey as of right now. He can't colonize like he used to. It would honestly be damaging to the smaller artist
Drake still has Lil Baby in his back pocket
That’s a great point.
This is way beyond rap beef. This is even beyond Drake vs. Kendrick. This is a real battle between the powers that be and the voices like Kendrick and others that are looking to claim this thing back that we care so deeply about that people like Drake come and steal for their own profit. Thank you Kendrick for standing on this hill and representing for the people that really care about this music don’t let these suits make you budge!!!
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How can Drake steal his own version of creativity from you though. Do we really need to villainize to revive the culture? Itll never make sense to me🤷🏿♂️
Yes❤
Not to mention him standing against an entire industry and standing up for young women that are being taken advantage of allegedly
@@takundag_ there’s a difference between being creative and stealing, or inauthentically engaging with cultural practices that already exist.
The lack of respect that people collectively have in hip-hop for Drake is due to his own poor character, and his caricaturizatuon of a multitude of Afro diasporic traditions, none of which he belongs to.
In order to be creative, you have to be original,and the heart of the matter is that Drake is not original, he’s more or less a thief.
There’s a reason why so many people feel that way about him, and I do think that people “villainising” him for that behaviour is fair. Much the same as it’s fair when we are upset by non-black people doing that. It’s not better because Drake is black.
Drake dropped “Taylor made” hoping to take Kendrick off his square and clean up with “family matters”… He had nothing after that
Don’t let it slip that after “Taylor Made”, Taylor’s friend and producer made Kendrick’s beats for 616 in LA.
We blasting Not Like Us in Nigeria 🇳🇬 💪
Drake f’d up and didn’t think (at all) about what a battle w/ Kendrick would do to his personal and professional life. He thought it would just be a basic surface level battle…
Yep
1:17: 💥 Analysis of Kendrick Lamar and Drake's ongoing beef, focusing on the importance of facts, momentum, and cultural impact.
4:53: 💥 Analysis of Kendrick Lamar's diss track and Drake's response, focusing on lyrical missteps and regional influence.
10:19: 🎤 Analysis of Kendrick Lamar's impact on LA unity and Drake's strategic missteps in hip-hop.
15:25: 💥 Analysis of Kendrick Lamar's critique on Drake's identity and sound in latest release.
20:15: 💥 Analysis of Kendrick Lamar's critique of Drake in the hip-hop space and the importance of cultural representation in rap.
25:11: ⚔️ Analysis of Kendrick Lamar's critique of Drake's cultural authenticity and impact on hip-hop community.
30:10: 🎤 Analysis of Drake's resilience in hip-hop amidst criticism and competition from Kendrick Lamar.
35:13: 💥 Exploration of morality in hip-hop beef between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, highlighting respect for Drake's resilience.
40:31: 🎤 Discussion on Kendrick Lamar and Drake's recent music releases, analyzing their impact and momentum.
Recap by Tammy AI
This needs to be pinned.
Thank you for this ❤
I’ve been mad at Ebro for about 5 years. We cool again… 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Right! 😂
He took his Umar lashes like a man he don't want that static no more😅
@@WhatsthaControversy Took his lashes is CRAZY!!😂😂
Ebro a weird biracial
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This is straight up one of the few smart conversations being held on this topic. Nice.
100% right nobody said Drake is not black. Everybody is saying Drake does not represent black culture. He is a culture vulture and those text messages with his mom proves it.
Rick Ross says is nonstop. How long have you been sleeping?
If Drake isn’t black neither is J Cole.
@@sincityquinn do you comprehend my first sentence” nobody said Drake is not black” Drake is a cosplay player acting like who he is not.
@@sincityquinn That comment clearly explained it and you still misunderstood. Cole represents black culture; Drake uses, at least thats the implication, personally I am neutral :)
Cole is playing checkers, Kendrick is playing chess and Drake is playing minecraft cause he loves miners.
"Drop drop drop drop" "Kendrick we need yaa" energy changed
Kdot did not take too long to drop the first one. He was in Africa Drake’s last song sound like he just got done crying texting his mom.
lol 😂
He probably did especially after Meet The Grahams. Drizzy is done
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@@AngeBiampandouhe done done
Man I think Dot gave Mos flowers on 6:16 in LA, the way he flows and sings on that is so Yasiin Bey-ish
Bumping Not Like Us in Ghana 🇬🇭🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾
Best believe we bumping Not Like Us here in Kenya!!! 🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪
waambie🤣🤣
@@benedictadeya8370 ALL DAY MAZEEEEE
I live in Massachusetts and Kendrick is bumping here
You know its over when INSIDE THE NBA on TNT playin Kendrick's disses as the background music. 😂😂😂
I heard that 😂😂😂😂
Think we see Aubrey courtside this NBA post season? I don’t, this guy is gonna have to lay looooooooow
Greetings! I am a 70 year cello player from Zurich. I am here to tell you that myself and everyone else in my city are extremely invested in this situation occurring between the American rappers. We've been listening to "not like us" repeatedly since it came out. We mostly agree that "heart part 6" is too defensive and sounds like he's trying to quit, or "tap out." Guten tag!
Greetings! I am a 120 year old Snorlax from Antarctica. I am here to tell you that we Antarctic Snorlaxes agree with you.
@@Jaheguru 😂😂😂 perfect response