Kendrick is playing the Super Bowl and people are saying he's a hypocrite and a sellout. And yet people also want Wayne to play the Super Bowl so his legacy can be respected and he can get his flowers. So, which is it, really? Yall have to choose. It can't mean both of these things for two Black rappers.
I noticed people talk bad about Kendrick because of their own insecurities. Us real fans know that he calls himself a hypocrite and he said he's not a savior so that says more about other people than it does about him.
That part!! Human beings were exhausting!! Same people who were at The Pop Out applauding Kendrick are whining.. People acting like Kendrick doesn’t deserve the spot when he’s a tier 1 artist!! I’m from Botswana and I looooooove Kendrick Lamar. This isn’t an American moment.. it’s a worldwide steppers moment.. anyone complaining is wasting time. Kendrick is performing regardless..-
I really appreciate Eddie’s vulnerability on here. From the call center to the addiction sharing, he is really standing out as a media personality for me. Another great episode!
The issue only exists on social media and Drake fans. In the real world no one has an issue with KDot performing at SB. It makes perfect sense to have Kendrick perform. Finically, marketability, relevance and socially.
This like saying the Utah Jazz made Jordan hotter because he beat them in the Finals multiple times. He beat his opponent. The losing opponent don't get credit for losing my boy@@relicreturns
S/o to Nadeska for going in on the MTV News issue! My little brother and I grew up reading those articles. Keep our history available for the next generation of music heads.
Shout out to Eddie for sharing his journey. And respect to Nadeska for saying how crazy it was for MTV and others to delete their archives. I’m also glad you guys spoke on the unnecessary conversations that happen with non-hip hop/rap fans and how they bleed into convos in the culture.
The Super Bowl has been to New Orleans like 10 times. Nobody was making a big deal out of someone from New Orleans performing in New Orleans until Kendrick came along. That’s what this is really about. People are just using this Lil Wayne situation as an exuse to hate on Kendrick.
So glad Doechii getting her flowers. I wish we would give King Los his flowers too. He dropped "God Said it" after Kendrick dropped and I don't know how it has less views than the other 2 responses. Let's also remember back in the day Kendrick himself said the best response to his Control verse was Los...
First off I need you guys to know this is the best Rap Convo space online at present. So much of the other convos online in hip hop are very surface and have no depth and you guys all lend your expertise and skill in the convo in a very impactful way. I appreciate the level of intimacy and vulnerability you guys all bring here and show that you are real people who are interacting with art and reflecting on how this art resonates beyond just spouting numbers and stats. This is not just about who is selling the most, art has real impact on people's lives and these artists are also real people. We lose track of that so regularly and just wind up debating silly commentary that is just noise. So thank you guys for cutting through the noise so regularly and offering something real.
Kendrick is objectively one of the best performers of our generation. Watch his Grammys performances, watch his BET awards performances, watch his tour. He’s going to put on a great show point blank period.
Ebro is spot on. Most of the people ain’t fans of hip hop. 5 of the greatest hip hop artists were being slandered last week. It was sad watching fan bases bash Jay Z, KDot, Wayne, Nicki, Drake
@@christianwhatley7972yeah Nicki stay putting out negative energy. Everytime a new female artist comes out there’s tension between her and the other artist.
The wild thing is, nobody judges the quality of films by how much money they made. Literally every year, we remember films based on how good they were. And where they charted has absolutely nothing to do with it. Why can't music be more like that.
I love the open conversation about addiction, especially from the guys. It’s much needed in our community. I would just like to make a quick correction that in Beyoncé’s first halftime show, she was the sole headliner and her only guests were Michelle Williams and Kelly Rowland for a little Destiny’s Child reunion. That was in 2013. She was invited to come back with Coldplay because she’s friends with Chris Martin.
y’all spoke facts about hip hop conversations … MOST of the chatter comes from people that are fans of the artist. NOT a fan of hip hop! we have to learn to ignore the “popular” conversation!
Kendrick not talking about media personalities like yall. He talking about podcast personalities like Adam 22, Akademiks, SayCheese, TrapLoreRoss.. all the profiteers of Death.
Kendrick has songs & is a top tier performer. Wayne the colorist is a horrible live performer that forgets his own lyrics. Wayne’s comments on blm & racism were terrible so I’m glad he’s not performing. He has tickets left for his shows if folks really care about seeing him.
Don’t forget no one was accepting Super Bowl invitations because black artists were “boycotting” in the nfl during the whole Kaepernick drama. This only changed when Jay Z got involved with the NFL
😏 The NFL don't owe Lil Wayne & Friends ANYTHING!! IF his dream is to perform @ the Super Bowl in New Orleans, then he needs to get SOBER and work for it!!
Lol just like they didn’t owe black people anything by putting BLM on every helmet🤣 you say this but they put him on their commercials currently and he advertises for them RIGHT NOW.. what are you talking about sir?
I'm with Nadeska on MTV and Viacom. 7 years ago when I was first getting into the professional music industry I had an interview at MTV London and was highly disappointed by the state of things and the direction they were going in. Sometimes you cause your own downfall and ego keeps you there 📉
The only reason it seems as if the viewership is up, and appear relevant, is because they added Univision, Unimas, and they counted the replay. Numbers don't lie but they misrepresent.
The discussion of drake rejecting the superbowl is hilarious when you think about it 😂 This man so offended he feel the need to talk about it know?? Boy
When we talk about hip hop culture we're talking about black America culture. The problem is just like black American culture hip hop let's everyone in but gets to a point where we feel like those others are benefitting from us more than us. The reality is numbers and popularity don't come from black people/culture support alone. So wanting light on certain cultural representations comes at the cost of selling to people that don't value it the same.
I am so sick of people hating on Taylor Swift. Kenya made her big when he stole her moment to shine at the Grammys years ago. Because of that incident, she got on my radar. I like Taylor and I wouldn't be bothered at all if she appeared on stage with Kendrick. And, yes, I'm a black woman. I also like Taylor because she doesn't shy away from standing up for what she believes in and her support of black artists. As for the guy who said, "Why does she have to insert herself...", she hasn't inserted herself into anything. I also she is very generous with those who work for her. Stop hating!!!
Kendrick Lamar is the goat and he would keep on top of king Compton California to be the greatest entertainer and performances every single of time. But drake other hand is the best! He diss of sneak peak one and the others out of nowhere!
That's a LIE. Ain't even a Drake fan, but the NFL did NOT release an official statement that Drake was not offered the Suoer Bowl half time. When you gotta lie to make a point... you playing yourself
There was no "official statement," from the NFL. A sports reporter spoke to anonymous sources, and said no. The NFL has not officially commented on this controversy. It's not beyond reason though to consider the second big music act after Taylor Swift, wouldn't be asked at some point, I don't see why that would be a big surprise if he was offered it once or twice.
to Nadeska's point I think a good amount do care.. But that shift in the industry mentioned is really what hip hop needs to flourish. I really think the blog era 2.0 can happen as these platforms are empowering the artist the more art can sustain
IMPORTANT: In order to communicate a meaningful message with lyrical excellence as top MCs do, it has to be packaged under a pop umbrella, otherwise, you are only entertaining those already interested in pure HipHop. To gain more share and push consumption of meaningful projects from singles to albums, you have to clickbait. If you don’t, the number of listens, popularity of a project are surface level metrics, and, it is contradictory to care about surface level metrics and at the same time care about a deep, meaningful, high quality art.
9:56 This is loud and wrong lol. Beyoncé definitely did it first in 2013 SOLO and brought out Destiny’s Child. Then Bruno followed the next year. THEN Super Bowl brought back Bey and Bruno because no one cared enough about Coldplay but go off
These people are so disingenuous. Kendrick pick for the Super Bowl is the most controversial pick b/c its not even universally supported by the hip hop community.
As far as JayZ goes, this is the same issue that happened with him being hired at Def Jam. The late DMX said it himself, “The inmates is running the asylum!” Like just because JayZ is an emcee, he can overlook sound business practice. And when it’s not free reign, then DMX is mad, Redman is mad, LL’s ego is hurt.. just because a fellow emcee is not just letting them release whatever they want without considering the bottomline.
I just heard dee 1s response to kdots watch the party die. He threw shade at kenny during the beef but i think realizes the shift. I love lecraes response too. As a recovering addict with many new struggles im here for refreshing positive music with substance. Kendrick is more mainstream with the woke stuff but look at the results. Im just happy to b here in this time period to witness this. Im not religious but my spirit can tell theres a shift. We must vibrate higher
Kendrick is playing the Super Bowl and people are saying he's a hypocrite and a sellout. And yet people also want Wayne to play the Super Bowl so his legacy can be respected and he can get his flowers. So, which is it, really? Yall have to choose. It can't mean both of these things for two Black rappers.
No one called Rhianna a hypocrite.
Because people just want a reason to hate on Kendrick. If it was Drake they’ll be excited
I noticed people talk bad about Kendrick because of their own insecurities. Us real fans know that he calls himself a hypocrite and he said he's not a savior so that says more about other people than it does about him.
Exactly I said the same thing. And how many of these same folks watch the superbowl themselves
Make it make sense😢
That part!! Human beings were exhausting!! Same people who were at The Pop Out applauding Kendrick are whining.. People acting like Kendrick doesn’t deserve the spot when he’s a tier 1 artist!! I’m from Botswana and I looooooove Kendrick Lamar. This isn’t an American moment.. it’s a worldwide steppers moment.. anyone complaining is wasting time. Kendrick is performing regardless..-
I really appreciate Eddie’s vulnerability on here. From the call center to the addiction sharing, he is really standing out as a media personality for me. Another great episode!
You articulated everything I felt watching this😢 His genuineness comes through every time. Preciate your story Eddie!
Word Eddie is a real one, I'm glad he's around he's such a key member to the group! 🫡
The issue only exists on social media and Drake fans. In the real world no one has an issue with KDot performing at SB. It makes perfect sense to have Kendrick perform. Finically, marketability, relevance and socially.
So Wayne don’t have fans
Kendrick is performing because the beef made him hotter. Drake stimulus.
It's OK to admit that
It's remarkable how little Drake fans actually care about Wayne too.
Like, this is the only time they're even pretend to.
@@relicreturns He should really start using that stimulus on himself cause that boy NEEDS it atp.
This like saying the Utah Jazz made Jordan hotter because he beat them in the Finals multiple times. He beat his opponent. The losing opponent don't get credit for losing my boy@@relicreturns
Kendrick is masterful. He stays low and pops out only to make moments. All the clowns can’t handle it. Watch the Party Die
Guy pops out to get attention like a child having a temper tantrum but like the Kardashians it is entertaining to watch so I am here for it
S/o to Nadeska for going in on the MTV News issue! My little brother and I grew up reading those articles. Keep our history available for the next generation of music heads.
Love her for that!
Shout out to Eddie for sharing his journey. And respect to Nadeska for saying how crazy it was for MTV and others to delete their archives. I’m also glad you guys spoke on the unnecessary conversations that happen with non-hip hop/rap fans and how they bleed into convos in the culture.
The Super Bowl has been to New Orleans like 10 times. Nobody was making a big deal out of someone from New Orleans performing in New Orleans until Kendrick came along. That’s what this is really about. People are just using this Lil Wayne situation as an exuse to hate on Kendrick.
No one is hating Kendrick right now
So glad Doechii getting her flowers. I wish we would give King Los his flowers too. He dropped "God Said it" after Kendrick dropped and I don't know how it has less views than the other 2 responses. Let's also remember back in the day Kendrick himself said the best response to his Control verse was Los...
king los went tf off after control
“You don’t need the industry to know you when you know you dope” - Lecrae
First off I need you guys to know this is the best Rap Convo space online at present. So much of the other convos online in hip hop are very surface and have no depth and you guys all lend your expertise and skill in the convo in a very impactful way.
I appreciate the level of intimacy and vulnerability you guys all bring here and show that you are real people who are interacting with art and reflecting on how this art resonates beyond just spouting numbers and stats.
This is not just about who is selling the most, art has real impact on people's lives and these artists are also real people. We lose track of that so regularly and just wind up debating silly commentary that is just noise. So thank you guys for cutting through the noise so regularly and offering something real.
Kendrick changes the emotions of the culture
Kendrick is objectively one of the best performers of our generation. Watch his Grammys performances, watch his BET awards performances, watch his tour. He’s going to put on a great show point blank period.
Love having all 4 of the hosts together pls do this more often this episode was so good! Had me laughing, thinking, and appreciating. Great episode!
Kendrick Lamar is the GOAT
GO AHEAD SAAY IT THEN WHO THE GOAT??
FACTS
no doubt
No he’s not. He barely give y’all music. He only won that beef cause Drake haters supported K dot. He never really had fans like that
Goat of what yapping😂
33:04 shout to Rob Markman 👊🏾
Ebro is spot on. Most of the people ain’t fans of hip hop. 5 of the greatest hip hop artists were being slandered last week. It was sad watching fan bases bash Jay Z, KDot, Wayne, Nicki, Drake
In all fairness, Drake and especially Nicki have deserved to be bashed countless times😂
I don’t get the hate towards Jay Z. He really don’t bother anyone. Some Ppl are insufferable and envious.
@@christianwhatley7972yeah Nicki stay putting out negative energy. Everytime a new female artist comes out there’s tension between her and the other artist.
Nicki got herself slandered (and Wayne by association) and that’s coming from a fan.
Kendrick is saying that right now the biggest battle is the spiritual battle. Ones self
The wild thing is, nobody judges the quality of films by how much money they made. Literally every year, we remember films based on how good they were. And where they charted has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Why can't music be more like that.
This is a great point. Sales dominate conversation when the actual art is garbage lol
I appreciate y’all Doechii and her new project on the last episode. Crazy how she blew up over night with her project and preforming at the VMAS
Just congratulate Kendrick there’s no need for you to bring up anything else black culture is divided
I love the open conversation about addiction, especially from the guys. It’s much needed in our community.
I would just like to make a quick correction that in Beyoncé’s first halftime show, she was the sole headliner and her only guests were Michelle Williams and Kelly Rowland for a little Destiny’s Child reunion. That was in 2013. She was invited to come back with Coldplay because she’s friends with Chris Martin.
y’all spoke facts about hip hop conversations … MOST of the chatter comes from people that are fans of the artist. NOT a fan of hip hop! we have to learn to ignore the “popular” conversation!
A lot of the chatter came from artists as well. They should address that, too.
The life of Kendrick Lamar Duckworth. I want a documentary. He’s the GOAT!
Is that his name
love this team bless up 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
im dyyyying at Sabrina Carpenter being brought up and Nadeska saying bruh this is the wrong show 🤣🤣
Kendrick not talking about media personalities like yall. He talking about podcast personalities like Adam 22, Akademiks, SayCheese, TrapLoreRoss.. all the profiteers of Death.
Ovo Mal is the head president of the GLAZE DRAKE NUTS
💯😂😂
33:01 Nadeska was about to go in! 😂 I'm convinced Nadeska is more ready for war than people think. Lol
Kendrick has songs & is a top tier performer. Wayne the colorist is a horrible live performer that forgets his own lyrics. Wayne’s comments on blm & racism were terrible so I’m glad he’s not performing. He has tickets left for his shows if folks really care about seeing him.
Don't forget about his egregious lyrics about Emmett Till
Nadeska looks like Nice Spice
Loved being a fly on the wall here. great conversation
Everytime I hear that Doechii speak on rap/hiphop...I get chills. She's speakin my language.
I’m here for Nadeska’s curls ❤
Don’t forget no one was accepting Super Bowl invitations because black artists were “boycotting” in the nfl during the whole Kaepernick drama. This only changed when Jay Z got involved with the NFL
The boogeyman has affected the culture again
"dont tell Dr.Umar im defending white women" -Eddie got me weeeaaakkkkk
Dr. Umar already knows...
😏 The NFL don't owe Lil Wayne & Friends ANYTHING!! IF his dream is to perform @ the Super Bowl in New Orleans, then he needs to get SOBER and work for it!!
Lol just like they didn’t owe black people anything by putting BLM on every helmet🤣 you say this but they put him on their commercials currently and he advertises for them RIGHT NOW.. what are you talking about sir?
work for it 😂😂😂 know nothing about this man
Thank you Eddie. I am going through a bit of the same challenge myself at the moment. Appreciate you.
Trust me. It's way better on the other side. I was there, I get it
Also February is Black History Month. No one better than Kendrick to perform.
I love the interview with doechii and that she is getting her shine, def hip hop aoty for me:)
Great episode! You guys are becoming one of my fav hip hop platforms.
Looooove the conversation about the culture!!! And Doechi is fresh air periodt
I'm with Nadeska on MTV and Viacom. 7 years ago when I was first getting into the professional music industry I had an interview at MTV London and was highly disappointed by the state of things and the direction they were going in. Sometimes you cause your own downfall and ego keeps you there 📉
The only reason it seems as if the viewership is up, and appear relevant, is because they added Univision, Unimas, and they counted the replay. Numbers don't lie but they misrepresent.
I need you guys to list off fire joints like you did every week this baby face ray is crazy!!!
I love these 4. So intentional and thought provoking. One of my top 5 favorite shows right now.
Doechii interview is how this industry.....SUPPOSED....2 highlight the real....🐊🐊🐊🐊🙌🏽🙌🏽💪🏽💪🏽🎯🎯🎯🎯💯
Another highly satisfying show. Thank yall.
WHY EVERYBODY HATES ON THE BEACH BOYS, THEY GOT CLASSICS!
Pleasantly surprised to see this new episode. Great stuff
Nadeska is the Kendrick Lamar of journalism. Lol, "sorry I love a boring life but I love peace"
The discussion of drake rejecting the superbowl is hilarious when you think about it 😂
This man so offended he feel the need to talk about it know?? Boy
Drake never said anything. They always build narratives around him. It's weird.
@@sheeshnotnice mal said drake talk to him about it 😂
The Beach Boys changed music. Pet Sounds, Smile
When we talk about hip hop culture we're talking about black America culture. The problem is just like black American culture hip hop let's everyone in but gets to a point where we feel like those others are benefitting from us more than us. The reality is numbers and popularity don't come from black people/culture support alone. So wanting light on certain cultural representations comes at the cost of selling to people that don't value it the same.
Truth
TEA 🍵 😊
i was wondering where tf the episode was. welcome back
Eddie. My friend. My hero bro. Keep shining and dope episode yall as always.
My brother!
For the SB, I prefer the Red Hott Chili Peppers over KDot. No 🧢
Been waiting for this one!!
12:40 Taylor swift triggered them😂
Nadeska 😍 I wanna meet her so bad . Don't even know what I would I say, I just love her essence so much 🙌🏾💙
23:48 W Ebro 🔥 for braking this down, I’m young and this is most of my peers problems they don’t know the difference.
I am so sick of people hating on Taylor Swift. Kenya made her big when he stole her moment to shine at the Grammys years ago. Because of that incident, she got on my radar. I like Taylor and I wouldn't be bothered at all if she appeared on stage with Kendrick. And, yes, I'm a black woman. I also like Taylor because she doesn't shy away from standing up for what she believes in and her support of black artists. As for the guy who said, "Why does she have to insert herself...", she hasn't inserted herself into anything. I also she is very generous with those who work for her. Stop hating!!!
Nadeska looks good with the fro
Kendrick Lamar is the goat and he would keep on top of king Compton California to be the greatest entertainer and performances every single of time. But drake other hand is the best! He diss of sneak peak one and the others out of nowhere!
Nadeska has come a long way. Happy for her!
Great conversation ⭐ rappers like Doechi and Q Aura are going to keep Hip hop safe and sound 🎶✍🏽
Nadeska got that Ice Spice hairdo.
Stay away from drugs.💯🔥
That's a LIE. Ain't even a Drake fan, but the NFL did NOT release an official statement that Drake was not offered the Suoer Bowl half time.
When you gotta lie to make a point... you playing yourself
🤣Low was ready to dip when Nadeska started letting the choppa sing on MTV lol
Lil wayne verbally said he wanted and is trying to be in this superbowl you clowns that's one of the reasons ppl caring now
EDDIE ❤❤❤❤🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽. THANK YOU
C'mon Doechii on the closing. Its not just ya'll hyping her btw, I mos def think the culture is/is going to feel her in a big way.
Coldplay halftime performance was dope though
I'm surprised that LL Cool J's album was not mentioned amongst the new projects to check out. It's absolutely phenomenal.
Drake never said anything about a half-time show. Idk why you insist on him being a participant in the conversation.
The show is great when everybody is in the house, love it
Is this available on Apple Pods or Apple Music?
Hold on bro don't ever disrespect red hot chili peppers or AC/DC
When Ebro started mentioning Taylor Swift 🤣🤣 He always does tho 😂😂
There was no "official statement," from the NFL. A sports reporter spoke to anonymous sources, and said no. The NFL has not officially commented on this controversy. It's not beyond reason though to consider the second big music act after Taylor Swift, wouldn't be asked at some point, I don't see why that would be a big surprise if he was offered it once or twice.
They can't even hide their bias. They LIE on purpose when it comes to Drake
to Nadeska's point I think a good amount do care.. But that shift in the industry mentioned is really what hip hop needs to flourish. I really think the blog era 2.0 can happen as these platforms are empowering the artist the more art can sustain
IMPORTANT: In order to communicate a meaningful message with lyrical excellence as top MCs do, it has to be packaged under a pop umbrella, otherwise, you are only entertaining those already interested in pure HipHop. To gain more share and push consumption of meaningful projects from singles to albums, you have to clickbait.
If you don’t, the number of listens, popularity of a project are surface level metrics, and, it is contradictory to care about surface level metrics and at the same time care about a deep, meaningful, high quality art.
It’s all about just being authentic to who you are.
9:56 This is loud and wrong lol. Beyoncé definitely did it first in 2013 SOLO and brought out Destiny’s Child. Then Bruno followed the next year. THEN Super Bowl brought back Bey and Bruno because no one cared enough about Coldplay but go off
Great commentary...
Let's not act like Lady Gagas performance wasn't fire , one of the best. She's a true performer! 🔥🔥
Just change this show to Kendrick Lamar show
Addiction is physi al.. Healing from it is spiritual..
Eddie makes me proud of my name. It’s definitely your boy Eddie here!
These people are so disingenuous. Kendrick pick for the Super Bowl is the most controversial pick b/c its not even universally supported by the hip hop community.
The ones speaking out are just jealous
Yall did nadeska wrong on the thumbnail ! Cmon son
Dizzy wright been on it for years !!! Give him his flowers !!!!! Get him on your platform!!!!!
I just don't want to hear a diss song during the half time show
I need Kendrick Lamar to put out some new music.
Nadeska is so goated
Dawg I knew this was fast Eddie Francis from Q93 in New Orleans shout out to u brother I miss the Real Talk show on Saturday mornings with Wild Wayne
lol that’s not me. That’s the homie tho
@@Yourboyeddie 😂😂😂😂😂 I knew I wasn’t tripping
Please let the young lady speak and finish her points!!
I'm with you Miss lady .I have been stopping watching that so called show VMA
As far as JayZ goes, this is the same issue that happened with him being hired at Def Jam. The late DMX said it himself, “The inmates is running the asylum!” Like just because JayZ is an emcee, he can overlook sound business practice. And when it’s not free reign, then DMX is mad, Redman is mad, LL’s ego is hurt.. just because a fellow emcee is not just letting them release whatever they want without considering the bottomline.
give Doechii time!
she's not supposed to feed us fast
her stuff is gonna stand the test of time
I just heard dee 1s response to kdots watch the party die. He threw shade at kenny during the beef but i think realizes the shift. I love lecraes response too. As a recovering addict with many new struggles im here for refreshing positive music with substance. Kendrick is more mainstream with the woke stuff but look at the results. Im just happy to b here in this time period to witness this. Im not religious but my spirit can tell theres a shift. We must vibrate higher