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Here's another video about maximising loudness for live setups. This time I show you how I use the Elektron Analog Heat as a master compressor and saturator for my live setups. I thoroughly show you how to set the level, how to do proper A/B testing, and examples on how to properly set everything to get a mix glued and peaks under control.
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I love the idea of a 30 minute track where the music doesn’t change at all, but the settings on the Heat keep changing and subtly changing the sound.
😂
I had the heat for years and never knew about the Envelope follower as a compressor. Thanks!
dave brother the sheer production quality of your channel incredible.. this is just the start of a household name in hardware experimentation and review.. keep going!!
Thank you so much! Really means a lot. I'll keep plowing through and see where things go :)
Got a analog heat as a gift last week and was trying to figure out how to get some good use from it and then you released this video. Thank you for your great tutorials.
Wonderful, thank you 👍 that's really a great gift !
what a great tutorial! One of the best I've seen about AH. Thanks a lot!
Thank you!
Excellent review of AH! Great job, Dave!
Thank you!
This is a great video, Dave! I was just having one more TH-cam search before I put my heat up for sale today. I am now definitely NOT selling it. Really useful, thanks
Nice 😀👌
thanks for the video and the presets!
Very insightful video on this device. Bought it a couple of weeks ago and loving every moment of it. Would love to see a follow up video on other creative uses for it. Thanks again for this one.
Nice! Thank you. Yeah will do at some point :)
@@Davemech hee dave, hope you're doing well. Any idea when a second part showing more of the analog heat will come out? Also another question I hope you might be able to answer. I just got an electro harmonic Platform (stereo) compressor / limiter and I'm wondering if I should put this before or after the analog heat in my A&H PX5? Or should I use it more on individual channels as a send for synths for example? I've tried some combinations now and I'm just not sure yet. Love to wonder what you think about this. Thanks.
Awesome video, sometimes I regret having my AH (almost) permanently on the saturation setting, but this video is a great demonstration of how versatile and smooth it can be. Thanks.
Thanks for watching. Yeah it's super versatile. Probably will add another video going into more creative uses.
@@Davemechplease do! still stuck in heat vs boum land 😂
Forgot to say your AH preset is really good! Tested it today
Glad to hear it, thank you :)
Sounds like a Thomas Fehlmann track haha awesome as always Dave!
Thanks dude :)
Thanks a lot for your work on this!
Happy to share :) anything else you'd like to see tested with heat?
Played with the preset preparing for a gig next week and will definitely use it!
One question, as the saturation is a bit too heavy for my music:
When reducing the drive parameter (to 70), will I loose a lot of peak control?
Output volume is remarkably lower that way but I don’t think it’ll be an issue?
Thanks a lot, Dave.
@@evenmind7283 is your input level not hitting above 80% of the level? Otherwise dial back the saturation a bit yes. You lose a bit of the peak control then but the sound is most important. you could compensate the volume loss a little with the dirt parameter on the filter page. Enjoy your gig! And would love to know how it sounded with the preset:)
@@Davemech input level is around 80%.
Thanks a lot man, really appreciate it!
Bought one to use as end of signal FX processing chain with my synths since there is good 20% deal this month a no brainer such a great tool.
That’s indeed a great deal. Enjoy :). And I can recommend exploring not as a sound design tool as well !
@@Davemech agree its super amazing! Easiest of the Elektron boxes to use and fun as well. Takes boring synths and breathes life into them.
thank u buddy !
Wow I just got an analog heat mk2 off of reverb now that mk3 is released. I really like the saturations and distortions but it’s kinda noisy- I probably need to gain stage a little better and not just max everything, but I was just turning it on for the first time soooo…. Anyway, thanks for all of the information, tips, and ideas.
Still rocking the elektron gear dave
What else?
Great vid! The AH is so underated. I managed to make it as a Synth with the lfo in audio rate. Now i am trying to get a vactrol kind of lpg but not with succes yet…
I can recommend the Steady State Gate by SSF. Sounds very very good. Not a true vactrol lpg but to me as close to it as it can get and it can go beyond that.
Thx yes next to Rabit Elephant one of the best from what i heard.
another great vid !! dankje , groetjes
such a good idea to post this video in case u vannot effort the Doctron imc. ok there is surely a difference but this one can be used very authentic too.
Thanks mr. Device Master ! (;
Thanks for this explanation Dave of the AH! I can make a lot more out of my AH then how I used it so far. I knew it, but this will help. I don't have a spectrum meter, but the amp meter on the AH give the same information isn't it?
Nice!
Yes more or less but i like to be exact :) and sometimes it's a bit harder to tell because of the peaks. 0.5db difference can already trick your brain. If you have any DAW, it will have a level meter with an option to read out LUFS. A spectrum meter is where you see the frequency range ;)
@@Davemech Yes, I thought so about the spectrum naming, but you knew what I meant. I still don't use a DAW at the moment, but that moment will come after I finished my music-/workplace at home very soon (till this date still using temporary setups in the living room 😅). Hopefully only for mastering and recording. Still a lot of (Elektron) gear to explore. 😉
Great video, where do you have this connected to the mixing desk for this, main outs or sub outs and back into a channel?
Thanks!
For live use it depends on the mixer that I'll use. If it has a master insert I'll use that. In the studio i have it set on a master insert as well.
Great video! Do you ever use the filter live? Particularly the high pass filter
Thanks! Depends a bit. If there’s a xone mixer available I use the filters on that. Last two weeks ingaf a regular analog mixer so then I use the hp filter on the heat 👍
Great video Dave!! 👌 Did you ever tried the OTO BOUM? Would be a nice comparison 🙂
Thanks! Planning to :) have to buy it though so maybe later this year. Definitely curious to check it out.
The best Heat video on TH-cam! Do you know if the preset works on the mk1?
Thank you!
Yes works :) it's the same firmware 👍🏻
@@Davemech great, thanks a lot!
Hello Dave.
First of all thanks for this video and bunch of examples and explanations how this unit affects the sound.
I just wanted to ask you one question.
What are you using the measure LUFs in this video?
Cheers
Dario
Thanks ! Good to hear it was useful. In this case I used izotope insight. But there’s a free vet called youlean sound meter. Great vst :)
@@Davemech Thank you very much.
I'm picking up the signal from an analog console in three stereo pairs. one stereo pair goes to the analog heat, and in order to equalize the bypass of the analog hit into one unit gain with those two stereo pairs, I had to change the sensitivity on the input channels in RME UCX, by the standard they are +4, and I set the analog heat to -10. and they are completely equal, you send a sine -18 and receive a sine -18 with a bypass analog heat. may be useful for someone
Dave which is your favorite hardware mastering unit. Dave I would much rather if you used different songs as examples I didn’t get what all the tweaking was about.
Thank you so much for this video. I wonder tho. Why would someone saturate and even come out with more peaks? I don't get the point of this device then. 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks !
Don’t understand what you mean though?
As I showed in the video you don’t come out with more peaks. That’s why I use the settings that I use. To reduce peaks.
Thanks for this video, very helpful ! Now i know i definitely need AH into my setup lol :)
Also i'm curious if analog FX chain inside Syntakt can fully replace Analog heat ... i'm thinking about chain Digitone>Digitakt>Syntakt where in Syntakt everything except of KICK (all other tracks except of kick + external audio in) will be routed to analog FX chain ...
Happy to share :)
Honestly it can't compete really. The AFX block is nice but you simply don't get as much control over your signal. No envelope follower for starters. It's great and I use it a lot for syntakt and it surely is a nice FX processor. But i wouldn't use it as as an output mixing stage. You also give up a lot of what makes syntakt so great by going that route since you can't use the AFX block in creative ways anymore.
However, don't hesitate to experiment with that approach of course :). Experimentation is key and maybe you'll land on a signature sound that you love so definitely try it!
@@Davemech i still didn't jumped on syntakt, still on the fence :-) Just speculating .. yeah no envelope follower but you can just trigger envelope with triggers from sequencer, so you actually don't need follower, or i am wrong ?
@@raysubject it's not the same. Envelope follower follows the signal. The negative envelope on the AFX block is just a static envelope which doesn't take its curves from an input signal. You can achieve a pumping effect with the inverted envelope setting and it's certainly nice :) but i personally wouldn't put an entire signal chain through that. It's also not actually responding to a signal with a kick that way. But then again, it can be a sound :) . It's just not the same as an analog heat or even an analog heat light. It's just its own thing
@@Davemech yeah makes sense .. thanks for explaing..
Is this compressor setting also suitable for master insert of an mixer board? I'm thinking about to use the Analog Heat as kind of send/return for the final mix of my modular synthesizer and my Allen&Heath ZED-18 before the master out.
Do you have any experience in such an usage?
Nice vid by the way. 👌🏼
Yeap it is 👍 I use it with my SSL big six that way. Of course altering settings according to the music. Thanks for watching
I bugged the fck out of a tech friend of mine about an actual tube warmer.. hes one of those maker guys who made all his own modular components and now a PA system. He runs after the mixer that tube amp ino his custom cabinets. It's very warm. If you want I can intro you. It's a very warm room when his system is the one pumping the club.
Nice :) tube warmers are certainly great!
I have a Syntakt that is known to be Analog too, could you tell me if the sound quality changes if I want to enter the DAW through USB or if I do it through line output to my audio interface?
Yeah syntakt has 4 analog voices and the analog fx block. So basically the difference should be negligible and possibly even slightly cleaner via syntakt’s own USB out as it takes less conversions between the analog to digital domain. Your audio interface is also connected via usb ao there’s always that AD convention. But that way there will be one more ADDA convention happening. But generally you probably won’t hear any obvious difference. A big upside of using syntakt’s usb is that you can stream individual tracks to your daw through overbridge.
I like high value Videos Like this one. To the point without ego trips and commercials . Nice
Could i do what you show in the video using the mk1 version?
Have you found-tried any other similar breed devices for mastering purposes other than Analog Heat and Oto Boum ?
When I am looking for an analog coloring box I always land at 2000+ euros saturators or guitar pedals. Is it really only these two devices that come close to that I wonder.
Yeap mki is virtually the same. Mostly hardware related differences. But sound and function wise you’ll be able to do exactly the same on the mk1.
Except for the IMC I haven’t gotten any more devices yet. But hope I can show a few more in the future :). I’ve got the analog heat fx as well so that’ll get a video as well for sure
Would you say the Mk1 is functionally the same for someone mainly using it as a module with overbridge2?
Mk1 firmware and hardware are pretty much the same except for the screen and that you can use mono L in So Yeap , it’s functionality the same 👍
Hi dave, what do you think of the compressor of the AH+fx versus the BOUM?
fx compressor is a digital. boum has little bit less featured compressor but it's analog
Dave I was wondering how you change Heat presets seamlessly during a live set?
I don’t :)
Generally not a good idea. But if you do want to do that then make sure you don’t change circuitry as that switch is audible.
super clear, thanks for your quick input sir!@@Davemech
Láche woar!
Dave , if you ever do a course on the AH, count me in ?
Question noooooobbbb question …. How do I get you AH preset into the AH ! ? Sorry if it’s a really daft question …
Hi Karl! Maybe I’ll create one down the line yes :)
You can import it through the Transfer application from Elektron. Download it at their support section on their website 👍
@@Davemech thank you , you are a ⭐️
I think the oto boum sounds nicer.. but of course less functions..for live setups def yes but for the studio only, i think it is not needed.. i just use plugins
I have OTO boum. It’s also very nice and I slightly prefer it in terms of sound. Analog heat is more flexible of course and can go to places that boum can’t touch.
Nothing wrong with using plugins. I especially like decapitator. But in the studio I still use OTO boum for every production as I think it adds something unique.
@@Davemech ah ok .. maybe i should not have sell my boum :(
@@burger659 will do a video about it in a few weeks I hope. :). There’s a lot incredible software at the moment. If you currently get a result you are happy with, I wouldn’t worry :). One is not better than the other.
@@Davemech yes, sure... i know some guys who make incredible music with software only ..this is why i work 98% in the box myself now ;)
This or Stimming Instant Mastering Chain?