A 'Front End' for your Synths? // Elektron Analog Heat +FX
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- After a couple of months I've collected my thoughts on the @WeAreElektron Analog Heat +FX. Sharing some pros, cons, and feature requests for this box.
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Chapters:
00:00 Does your synth need a front end?
02:23 Init patch into the Heat +FX
04:34 Turning on various FX
07:53 Init patch sound design
08:37 Reording FX
10:18 Thoughts on usage
11:33 An actual Modwave preset
13:49 Reseting the Heat +FX to Init
17:00 Lets talk cost and downsides
18:16 It's actually fairly unique
19:41 Overbridge Discussion
21:03 Audio interface thoughts
22:24 Feature request for Overbridge
23:49 No sequencer thoughts
24:30 Overall thoughts
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Bro you have ALL of the dopest synths. Im living thru u! Love the heat+fx tho. Makes everything sound so good. Itd be nice to see an updated version of this video, especially if you were to go over some of the other aspects of this box. Like the compressor or showing some of the things you can do with the lfo's and other modulation sources. This box can get so much deeper, but I can see how some of those other things might not be in your workflow. Also, you make great videos! Please keep it going!
Good discussion on this box. I bought one for this exact reason - exploring saturation and distortion in a hands-on way with the bonus of the effects to have a single box for convenience when I don’t feel the need to create a full on pedal board on my desk. It will also double as a master bus processor when I play live so I think I’ll get my money’s worth from it and if not the resale value will be good. I am also hoping that there will be some additional models (shimmer, plate and spring reverbs, flanger) added to further differentiate between it and the syntakt or digitakt as effects processors.
I run my synths through a Tascam Model 24 and the stereo output of that going into the AH2, mostly using either the Saturation (tape emulation) or Enhance (tube emulation) settings. Makes every synth sound better. Not sure if the V3 is with it just for FX that I can add with plugins.
Your a genius at this digital stuff and I learn so much from your channel. Thanks for the knowledge. And I enjoy your music.
Thanks for watching 🙏❤️
Wait.. how am I not subscribed to you already?!
Wow. You video production is really cool!
great demo! I need one to pair with my octatrack and syntakt 😮
Starting to see these on the used market. Might be time to pick one up.
As someone who owns and uses guitar pedals with my synths i bought this right away. Saves so much space and the over bridge feature is amazing. My 2nd piece of Elektron gear
Same.. And it's my 2nd piece of Elektron gear as well. I also have the Analog Rytm MKII
Mod wave is a sleeper synth, it can do digital and very good analog poly, also own the Heat+FX, a lot of people don’t think in the compressor side of the Heat with the circuitry, The Heat has taking over some of my other beloved and pricier gear. (Thermionic Culture Volture $2K and Super 15 around $4K, Set of Empirical Labs Distressors $3K even my boss Studio Shadow Hills Mastering Compressor which sits at more than $10K it beats any opto Compresor around) if you know how to dial your saturation and compression with sidechaning, this is a very inexpensive unit to have. For all those that say $1K is to pricey, they are not the market for a big boy unit. The Extra Effects are basically free, all thou Elektron needs to update that Reverb and fix that delay on the warble FX asap
I've had my eye on this for awhile now, and...yeah, I don't think it's really going to scratch my particular itches for that price. Especially since I'm still in the G.A.S. stage of getting back into music and need to focus elsewhere anyway. 😉 I'll see what Elektron does in the future with firmware updates.
I always appreciate your takes; love this channel (and the OG one, too)!
Thank you! And yeah, a lot better things to spend 1k on before grabbing a Heat FX.
I somehow hoped this device is a more versatile alternative to the eventide h90 (which I wanted to buy first) and was confused that Heat+Fx it had so few presets. I hope elektron can provide more presets with an update.
Would love to see an update video of your analysis after an official Elektron update comes out. I like the way you break down the workings of the interface.
Thanks! If Elektron drops a significant update then I'll consider it 👍
I recently sold my AH MK1 which sat right after my digitakt (great pair). The AH MK1s display is pretty bad especially compared to the OLED displays, I had difficulty seeing even in a dim room. Are there any noticeable differences between the MK1 and AH +FX in the distortion circuits? I know they upgraded the circuits when they released the AH MK2.
Honestly something like this is something thats more useful on the master, which is what most people used the older versions for but now the FX steams like you want to use it on a single instrument... so if you don't want the fx go for the OTO BOUM
Good demo
I love Elektron sequencers, my fav piece is my Digitakt... but the Analog Heat just leaves me cold. I'd much rather do post processes in the box, with better results + saving $1,000.
Have you seen the Freqport FT-1 Freqtube? Surprisingly available at Zzounds. It would be interesting to compare the Heat to it!
Really helpful video! Not sure if you're still checking comments on this, but does this have true bypass? Just concerned that if i have it sitting there, connected b/w synths and interface, it will impart colour when I dont want it. Thanks
I got a Nagra 3, Marantz PMD 222, 2x dbx 160 xt , a Tegeler cream and a chase bliss warped vinyl for mixing mastering at home but im still looking for something to add more texture to the sound without spending lots of time, thats why i got my eyes on the heat. I think its the best device to ramp beats up coming from the MPC live 2
I bought one, reviewed it, have some likes, some disappointments.
They should’ve made the analog effects re arrangeable. Having the distortion after the filter and eq means we could use it as a clipping solution.
My second and perhaps easier solution would be asking for a limiter or actual built in soft clipper. I don’t care if it’s digital. Unless if you need an fx rack for like, micro freak though, the mk 2 is just fine for people who use a daw.
Do you use this with overbridge? Im curious to know if you can route more than just a stereo pair through it. Like it he io opens up at all.
Can't something like this be achieved through audio inputs on say a Waldorf Quantum or a Roland Fantom and utilize the internal stereo analog filters?
If im using it for production im not worried about delay/latency, thats what compensation is for.
Have you ever tried the Empress Zoia?
21:29 “USB is on board for easy connection to other class compliant devices such as computers, phones, or tablets, and for a seamless computer integration with Overbridge - perfect for adding analog warmth and your sound explorations. Suitable on individual tracks as well as on the master bus. It can also double as a sound card, making it perfect for the nimble studio.”
Regarding a built-in sequencer.. is it not CC addressable for DAW control?
I make harsher electronic music and record my rock n roll band, this will be a huge help with both!
I’ve been considering this to add character and fatness to a Jupiter-X I have. It’s a great sounding synth but it’s too sterile, cold, and flat. It’s hard for it to sound well in a mix because all the synths I have are analog and sound powerful in frequencies, that they overlap the Jupiter-X. Even a Prophet ‘08 I have sounds louder.
...Wonderful concept, Sir, but "above-my-pay-grade"...I would choose to place this AFTER my synth-collection-mixer, then to the multi-track/daw, etc...Peace...
i use for these purpose the ios fabfilter q3 saturn and volcano with ipad m1 and control them via midi cc lfo's of the octatrack. This for a price of 50$ assuming ipad and octatrack are already there.
I was looking to get one of these for my MPC One but I've decided to get a Strymon Deco instead to get the type of saturation and modulation I'm looking for. But I might cop the mk1 or the mk2 of the analog heat on Reverb if these drive the price down.
When I perform live, I use an sp-404sx as an Analog Heat, essentially.
Can confirm the mk1 is excellent paired with an MPC One. Have done that many times 👍
Are the effects like Reverb and Delay sends or inserts? I mean, do they all have a dry/wet mixer knob?
Can be programmed as either
You can use a Novation Mini or Ultranova as Multi FX processor that is not really worse, pay below 400,- for it and get a nice synth on top of that.
Could you elaborate on this or provide a link to somewhere with more info?
@@iceymagoo Until now I haven´t seen anyone making a video about that. The Mini and the Ultra as well have audio inputs (Mini mono, Ultra stereo) that can be processed though the internal FX. Both have a 5 block FX section with a autopanner upfront. It´s not premium but works fairly well with distortion, compressors, chorus, flanger, phaser delays, and reverbs. Different types of everything, syncable to clock, and the blocks can be arranged in different ways. Additionally you can use the arp as a gate section, so pads that are fed in can be chopped in programmable rythms. There are other synth with audioinputs, also with more premium FX sections than the small Novations, but that´s a feature that is hardly shown or talked about. Read the manuals. I though about making a video about that, since I programmed some FX patches for audioinput only and have some very pleasant results while feeding cheap or more expensive monosynth without FX sections into it. However, it takes some understanding how to program FX, the stuff is so featurepacked, it needs experience for good results. Especially the reverbs need some tweaking to come over pleasant, they are the weakest part. Chorus, delay, no problems. But, well, for the money... Those small Novations are very powerful. Somehow not loved by the synthscene. Stocksounds in the synth are not really to my liking, that might be a reason and the complexity of the modmatrix.
Very interesting, the Novations are seeing a bit of a resurgence. The band Cannons uses one live on stage often. Very versatile piece of kit. So are you saying that the Mini or Ultra as an Analog stage or filter that affects the input audio? I didn't think they had that. Or maybe your saying bottom line you like the sound of the Mini/Ultra Digital filter and it sounds great when you run another audio source through it's inputs. I know musicians like to run audio through the Alesis Ion for the same reason. @@Kaffimusic
@@Ambientnauts Uhm, no, I wrote you can use the MultiFX section and run external gear throug it. Not the filter or synth section. Like it was a stompbox or tabletop/rackmount fxunit. However, more processing can be done with the vocoder. You can use the external audioinput as carrier as well.
It strikes me that having a compressor is one very useful thing for a synth front end, particularly if you're talking about drum synths. How is the compressor effect in this unit and does it do a good job for that?
Definitely decent. The analog saturation will have more character, but the compressor module will get the job done for 'compression' duties. Just don't expect it to give you 1176 characteristics. I have a fair number of analog compressors and they all have different characters. I still use the basic compressor in Ableton when I just need basic compression.
Hi . I tried to contact Elektron but they don't give me an answer about analog heat fx. The question is about gain staging.
It is normal that by using the rear analog L/R inputs (therefore without using overbridge) and by putting the analog heat in bypass (after having adjusted the input to the maximum possible volume), I have a signal in the DAW that reaches the maximum around at -23 dbfs? Even if I activate the analog heat and adjust the output with the level knob I can push the maximum around - 23 dbfs before activating the exclamation point on the output meters. Can't I get a stronger signal out?
If I push the signal more the exclamation points above the analog heat meters light up. Is it possible to increase the output signal without cutting anything?
The channel on my apollo x16 is set to +4 dBu and I have no low volume issues with any other external hardware I own to get at least -12 dbfs in my DAW. I just want to know if this is a normal feature of the analog heat fx or I have some problem. Thank you and congratulations for your great work!
Great video! really enjoyed your insight on this particular device. i think it's a really cool piece of gear but I just can't rationalize spending over $1,000 for it. Man, they are so close with this one!
Thank you!
Can Anyone explain what over bridge is?
Dont know why you didnt connected MIDI for tempo???
Id rather build a pedalboard built around a BoredBrain Patchulator
COULDNT U JUST RUN A SYNTH TO THE MICROCOSM THEN AUDIO IN TO THE ANALOG HEAT THEN THAT SIGNAL TO OVER BRIDGE. I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO POSSIBLY MAKE THE MICROCOSM ACTIVE IN THE CHAIN TO BE ROUTED TO A PLUG IN. I WOULD TRY IT FOR SURE.
Filters are digital?
Analog Filters! :)
You bought yours? Unclear whether you got it for free or discounted
I think you and me are the only ones who still own a modwave….lol.
I have the opsix, but the modwave was my first choice. I am impatient and the local guitar center had the wavestate and opsix. The opsix was also my double dipped cream dream of a synth, but the modwave was my number 1 choice initially. Still want one.
Love the OpSix, but the Modwave is a lot more fun to program in my opinion. I was expecting to see a Modwave SE get announced.... but no signs yet.
Mod wave is a sleeper synth, can do digital and very good analog poly, also own the Heat+FX, a lot of people don’t think in the compressor side of the Heat with the circuitry, The Heat has taking over some of my other beloved and pricier gear. (Thermionic Culture Volture $2K and Super 15 around $4K, Set of Empirical Labs Distressors $3K even my boss Studio Shadow Hills Mastering Compressor which sits at more than $10K even any opto Compresor around) if you know how to dial your saturation and compression with sidechaning, this is a very inexpensive unit to have. For all those that say $1K is to pricey, they are not the market for a big boy unit.
@@MeAlexSenna Odd that you made the same flex post twice
HAHA HES JUST TO COOL FOR SCHOOL. ANYTHING ELSE U WANT BRAG ABOUT GUY
@@happylittlesynth
To be honest, you’re probably better off buying separate pedals that do a better job than this unit. 🤔 Hmm…That would be an interesting video.
there aren't really pedals with this many analogue distortion circuits. But you could argue that for the other fx, seperate pedals offer more flexibility - altough you do have to factor in that the fx here are re-arrangable - so you'd have to include a patch bay in the mix as well...
This offers quite a bit of value actually, it's hard to beat with seperate units.
H9 does
Can’t wait to get one of these for $300 😂 $999 they smoking fentanyl
I love Electron but they sure milking us, bedroom producers with G.A.S. Not gon' fall for that, Electron!
NAH ITS HIM NOT ELEKTRON MY CUSTOM PRESENTS SOUND WAY BETTER.
@@MALAKAMARYNYAHUnah it’s definitely Elektron. They deliberately make each thing they offer limited in some way so you need to buy the other 12 things they make. It’s s smart business model but kinda sucks for the consumer. Btw I also like Elektron haha
@@G.GordonMidi I LOVE THEM. THERE MY FIRST ANALOG EQUIPMENT.
@@G.GordonMidi SMH ITS HIM. MY PRESETS UMM BARAKAH
@@MALAKAMARYNYAHU I’ve never even seen this dude before today and I’ve bought 4 Elektron boxes. Obviously it’s not him. Not sure what your presets have to do with anything tho
I find the inclusion of FX quite strange considering how I'd expect the Heat to be used. You're generally going to put everything through it at the end of the chain as a 'make everything sound slightly nicer' box. You'd really want the other effects to already be applied to individual elements before you reach that stage. Limited uses for a very high price.
for someone with no imagination yea
@user-th6rh8zp3t I don't see your point. You could have more creative freedom for the same price if you had separate effects. The heat is fantastic at distortion. To utilise the other effects, you are forced down a path that's comparatively limiting.
11:15
I like operating my synths with the radiator fully exposed💪
Not influenced
waaay too expensive
Is it supposed to make things sound terrible?
IMPO It doesn't sound nice + too expensive for mud in a box, there are other alternatives like H9 that definitely sound better