Charvel DK24 2PT Side by Side with Guthrie Govan Models
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- I decided to put the new Charvel DK24 2PT side by side with the Charvel Guthrie Govan signature models. They are indeed different guitars, but obviously share a great deal of DNA. These new guitars are phenomenal, check them out if you can!
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For that price,the DK24 Pro Mods are unbeatable,you get a lot of guitar for for your money.
I just wished they would offer more colour options and maybe some nice flame/quilt veneer tops,like on the San Dimas or H-H Pro Mods. If the H-S-H version came out in a nice Aquamarine burst or Amber,like the new Jackson Soloist SL-3 Pro Series models,I would get one immediately.
greekfreak1980 I agree, but limited colors and no veneers allows things like the Gotoh Bridge, Duncan Pickups and the roasted neck for $999. As the line expands they will likely be able to do that, but every finish means more spray booth time and the veneers, obviously are more manufacturing, etc. So they went for features over esthetics. But with the popularity how it is, it's likely the sales volume will allow for more of those features. 🤘🏻
This is how all demos should be. Extremely well done
Thank you so much!
This is what I call a perfect comparison demo video. Great playing too!!!
Eric Casper thank you so much!
Stunning review, it doesn't get any better than that! 👍🏻
Trevor John Merrilees many thanks!
Tremendous review. Very objective and liked the side by side playing as well as the discussion after. I got the Orange Crush one this week and love it! I kept hearing how similar it is to the GG signature and up popped your video - perfect! Thanks for doing this!
Thank you so much! 🙌🏻
Just the comparison I was looking for. Thanks
Ariel Lopez most welcome!
This guy really knows how to make a review. One of the best I’ve had seen
Thank you so much! 🙌🏻❤️
I just bought a Charvel DK24 HH and it is simply the best guitar I've ever played - at any price point. Mexico is churning out some fantastic instruments these days. If I knew who built mine, I'd buy him a cerveza or two for sure.
Yeah, the Mexican plant is making incredible stuff. When I had these, I'd considered keeping them and just refretting with stainless steel frets and swapping out the pickups. As I didn't like the stock Duncans. But because I have the Guthries, I never played them, so it didn't seem viable to invest that much into them. But if these had stainless frets, nobody would need to even try out an Ibanez AZ. When those came out, I was so excited, then I played them at NAMM. I've played them at NAMM every year and they still do nothing for me. They're "fine". "Well-made", even. But the prestige models don't feel like $2000+ guitars. And the premium feel like entry level guitars. The Mexican made Charvel dk models feel way better to me. A couple months ago I got the Rick Graham MIJ model. I love it. It's what I'd have wanted to do to the dk: stainless steel frets and the Bareknuckle pickups in it are stellar.
@@RandyWillcox Not really true is it? There's a ton of guitar players - many of them some of the best in the world playing AZ guitars - if the necks sucked they wouldn't do that. Even if you think well Ibanez, Charvel etc make an offer Guthrie or Tom Quayle can't refuse they're still not going to play something that's bad. A lot of Suhr owners struggle with the idea that Guthrie plays a Charvel now and have to convince themselves the Suhr was better and Guthrie somehow sold out. Here you're doing the same as them. You're deluding yourself a little bit to suggest a guitar is better when you give a long list of things you have to change to the supposedly better one, like changing frets and pickups on top of the other changes you've already done in the video. All you're really saying is someone with an illness to habitually keep buying variations on exactly the same guitar is going pick up a different guitar brand and the neck will feel different to them. The same would be true if you were obsessively buying Ibanez AZ models. The bottom line is : you know SS frets are better. They are on a plethora of guitars now at price points from £600 upwards (e.g Cort G300, Yamaha Revstar standard) as well as all Ibanez AZ - and that makes these guitars less attractive because there is no saving money buy buying one - in a few cases you're paying more. The only real reason, perhaps, is that Fender haven't got the Mexicans the equipment to use SS.
Charvel had an opportunity to make the MIJ SS frets - at least then there'd be a few models at a middle price range you could pick. But they didn't, except, again for Guthrie's sig model (which, like the Rick Graham one are vastly overpriced and not that available anyway) So you're left with a guitar brand that there's a big premium to pay for SS frets. Which seems to have made you convinced that SS frets must be considerably more cost to work with but that's simply not true. What is more typical is that guitar techs that buy cheap tools find they're not up to the job to do SS frets. But why would you use a tech that bought cheap tools? With good tools the job is the same. Bear that in mind before you start getting these guitars fretwork done - if the guy is trying to charge you more or complains that they ruin his tools he's a cheapskate - find a better luthier.
What a great video on those cool Charvels. Thanks for doing such a good job.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that!
Thank you for the effort and detail you put into this video. First class, just like the guitars.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
@@RandyWillcox . . The pleasure was all mine Randy. . Take care.
Exceptional demonstration! Much appreciated man
Jacob Ferguson thank you, I'm glad you like it.
Thank you so much for such a great and detailed demo. I have the grey HSS Charvel and it’s a fabulous instrument. Came to the store to get the Fender Elite strat,but this was no brainer,especially half the price))
David Tal thank you! I'm glad you liked it. And yeah, for that's a deal, especially for the money! I'm happy you found that guitar!
Not only are these great guitars but in the hands of a great player they all sound amazing! Very useful and enlightening demo,
Thank you so much! I appreciate that!
What a fantastic review! I especially enjoyed how upgrading the dk24 for about $500, would yield a comparable Guthrie Govan signature. So, basically a savings of a $1,000 bucks. Well done sir!
Yup! And thank you! You're getting higher output pickups. And you won't get locking bridge saddles, but you get a very comparable instrument and you won't miss the idiosyncrasies of the Govan. But...if you CAN swing the Govan, it's...🤤
Love the King’s X thrown in there.
ConspireToConspire my favorite band! They usually sneak into my videos. Haha. 🙌🏻
Summerland in my past...
Amazing guitars and playing.
Thank you so much!
thanks for the "boring" part. I dug it. Informative!
Elliot Killian Music cool, I'm glad. Yeah, I live for the "boring" bits myself, so I appreciate it when others do too.🤘🏻
Great in depth review. Ordered the DK24 HSS in Shell Pink {I will name her Pinky Tuscadero}, it's arriving tomorrow. Super stoked. Great playing, thanks for the great info.
G Thank you so much! AND...killer name choice! I wish I'd thought of it first! I hope more people recognize the reference! 🙌🏻💕🎸
Lol. I just bought the DK24 HSS shell pink and the Infinity blue DK24 HSS. I named them Pinky and Leather Tuscadero.
Fantastic and in-depth review. Thank you. The orange HSH looks pretty sick.
Les Harrison thank you! I love it. I've made some mods on them both. Both received new Gotoh HAPM height adjustable post locking tuners. The orange one got the Graphtech Ghost Acoustiphonic system installed and the pink one got a non-fine tuner Floyd Rose. They're great guitars!
@@RandyWillcox Thank you for the response, Randy. I'm really blown away by your technique. You do so much with incredibly hand efficiency. I also appreciate the comments elsewhere about these MIMs compared to the Ibanez AZs. These are exactly what I'm trying to decide between. I've now heard the quality on the AZs is so hit or miss. Between that and their odd colors, I just need to figure out which Charvel is best for me.
Thanks again. Best to you.
I have the DK22 and it’s remarkable
Yeah, it's a remarkable line.
The orange guitar has the best tone for me
Sounds excellent!! :)
CAMERON!!! Thanks man, I didn't see you had seen this vid!
This video is just soooo well done. While the musicianship is top-notch, the vid is also technically oriented and insightful. Very helpful to the end of trying to figure out the best option for a roasted maple neck, do-it-all guitar, moving into 2020. There are several excellent options on the market now including all the guitars listed here in addition to the Ibanez AZ2204 and the Ernie Ball Music Man Cutlass. In this viewer's opinion the Guthrie Govan is the king of the heap but that price tag even on the used markets...ouch! Anyway, super vid! Thank you!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that!
Amazing playing! Love the tones too!
TheGoldenChicken thank you so much! I used my Victory Amps and the Analogman King Of Tone. ❤️
Randy Willcox Nice! I really admire your playing and it was inspiring when I saw that you had become a Chapman artist! I hope to maybe also rock one one day, but anyways keep up the great music and I’d love to see more videos in the future!
Excited for the new Natural finish DK24!
It looks pretty sick!
Bought a shell pink 8 months ago. It is absolutely fantastic. When I first played one I immediately sold. My USA strat to grab the dk24. The strat was a. Sick guitar but the the dk24 was just right for me and my play style.
Fantastic. Thank you for sharing this and for your excellent playing. Thanks no thanks for making me want one of these even more than I already did :) Also, SUMMERLAND!!
Thank you, I really appreciate that! And yes, King's X is 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Having read a lot of comments you made I agree with you so much. Sold an American tele for an Epiphone Sheraton pro which plays like a dream but inside of me I know the quality makes a big impact on me. Anyone’s choice but I like expensive stuff so much.
Man you are an incredible guitarist!
Thank you so much!
Excellent demo. I've been all over TH-cam trying to find an in depth video on the DK and this was all that and more. Thanks so much.
Very welcome!
I've never seen the blue guthrie! I would love that guitar
Joe Heisler I had a luthier do the paint because I needed some color in my gig. 😁
The orange DK24 is a BEAST. I hate too admit it but I prefer it. Now the clean passages go to both Guthries. I just purchased the Laser Frost Blue DK24 HH with GOTOH 510 and its incredible. I've been an Ibanez only guy for 20+ years and I'm officially converted. Just an unbelievable guitar at any price point.
Forget the content - anyone demoing a guitar using Summerland has sold it already. Great job - I really want the pink one!
Haha! Thank you so much! I'm always glad when someone picks up the King's X tunes. 🤘🏻
@@RandyWillcox first vid - spotted straight up. Transcribed the solo years ago and Ty was quite interested in it. Most underrated band in history… great video - will check out more… x
Thank you for showcasing these monsters. I actually modded mine a bit and it actually is my #1 now over my $3400 CS Fender strat(which I'm now selling to fund an amp). I put those blue anodized staggered Sperzel tuners, KTS titanium saddles, Kluson brass block and claw with screws, and the white Noiseless F-U Tone springs. I can't express to you in words what those upgrades did for my tone. I literally was speechless and just laughed uncontrollably from being overjoyed. And was still well under $2000. It's truly one of the best guitars out there. Love the Guthrie's by the way.😍🥰🥰👍
I'm so glad to hear you enjoyed modding yours! I completely understand!
@@RandyWillcox Oh no Randy. I didn't enjoy it. Its was rather expensive actually. I did it to achieve optimal tone. Also to make it as good as it deserves to be. My bad. Should've clarified.
@@theariesexperiment4642 do you think the titanium saddles were worth the hefty price tag? also, were they the block style saddles or bent?
@@finlayfatknees Well. It kinda depends. If your guitar lacks that whole "sparkling highs" and that naturally compressed sound and you've already changed the nut, block, claw, and so on?? I'd say yes they are. And I chose the block ones just for the comfort. The bent ones are substantially less money but will dig into your palm. And I'd say there's a slight tonal characteristic difference. But one thing I did gett out of them I wasn't expecting was unmatched clarity. Like with distorted chords and double stop bends. The clarity rivals my custom shop guitars. It's kinda like J. Bonamassa said,..."were just trying to unlock or find that extra 10% in a guitar". I think that sums it up very well on expensive upgrades.
I'll say this in closing. That Charvel DK24 I started with had a little something extra before I modded anything. So I felt pretty good about dropping extra coin to attempt unlocking that 10%. It worked out wonderfully and I technically saved thousands,...because it rivals much more expensive guitars I own. But you just need to start with one that has good bones to start with. Which is difficult to surmise sometimes. Hope my feedback helped you out my friend. And yes,...I think they are worth it(KTS saddles). Dont settle for the "knockoff" ones. Good luck with all you guitar modding adventures Finlay H.
Been looking at reviews on the orange GAS monster for a few days and your video was very well done. Great content, killer licks, to the point and not blowing smoke. I really wish they had included SS frets. I've never had a fret job done before but I may look into it.
James Brock thank you. Yeah, I won't lie, I'd have easily paid more for these with ss frets, but I totally get the idea of wanting to meet the $999 price point for all the players who couldn't care less about the metal the frets are made from.
Superb video and very informative. I have my eye on the orange DK24 which i will be trying out tomorrow. Cheers buddy!!
Hugh Caldwell thanks! Excellent, you won't be disappointed!
Killer playing and review! Thanks for sharing
Thank you so much!
You got some serious chops Randy
Jon Authier thank you so much!
AWESOME VID!!!!....i've always wanted an old mary kay pink strat....but now i'm jonesing for that pink charvel!!!!!
larry dickman thanks! Yeah, I was crushing on a shell pink Anderson and when I saw this I got all squishy!
Don’t do it, poor quality.
Thank you for such a detailed review this was awesome. Subscribed!
Thank you! I appreciate that!
Incredible demo!
Kevin James thank you so much!
that's some kick ass playing
Thank you so much!
Cheers to u my friend for an awesome comparison. Ive been eyeballing that DK 24 for a few mos now.
Triple S thanks man! Yeah, when they were first revealed I became immediately intrigued. I had to get my hands on them.
GREAT Video!!! Great playing!!! Great sound!!!
beannie60 thank you!
Thanks for the very interesting video Randy !
Kurt Vereecke you're very welcome!
Thanks for the review Randy! I also have the GG Sig and wanted to get a similar guitar to use as a daily companion. I love the GG, but I'm always worried it will get stolen at the jam sessions (happend to me once already) or that I'll end up beating the crap out of it through daily wear and tear. Just got the orange DK24 in the mail today and I'm so happy with it! Not only a cheaper alternative to the GG, but an awesome guitar in general! This is one I'll keep for the ages.
Nelson Fleig exactly! I'm glad you went with it and are enjoying it!
@@RandyWillcox Thanks! It's the perfect sister guitar to the GG. Btw any tips for the coil split mod on the GG? I'm a Fender man my self and would love the SC sound on the GG. Can you pls link me to any resources? Thanks for the awesome content again!
Decided to pull the trigger on the pink HSS today! How would you say it's held up over the last year or so?! Awesome video man! Keep it up, cheers from Southampton UK
Alfie Bowers I think you're going to be plenty happy with it. I sold my DK24s last year. But the pink one went to a friend of mine who still absolutely loves it! In fact, I installed a non-fine tuner Floyd Rose on it before selling it. Basically, if I didn't have the Guthries, they'd have been great. But I never played them. They were great, but with the Guthries hanging right alongside them, I just always played the Guthries. So I'm spoiled that way. I sold the DK24s to help fund my Tom Anderson Guardian Angel Player. I needed the HSS fix, so I had to get a guitar that was on par with the Guthries.
But had I not had the Guthries, I'd still have those DK24s.
The pink DK24 when I sold it:
reverb.com/item/27213646-charvel-pro-mod-dk24-hss-2pt-cm
My Tom Anderson. It made their Guitar Tales feature in December just before they shipped it to me.
www.andersonguitarworks.com/guitar-tales/2019/12/9/december-9-2019
@@RandyWillcox thanks for the reply man! Really looking forward to getting my hands on it. I've head some mixed reviews in regards to tuning stability, did you have any troubles if you can recall? Any tips on how I can dodge them if so? Thanks man 🤘
Alfie Bowers sorry, I didn't get a notification about this. The tuning stability was as good as any non locking tremolo. That's just life. But I'll say this, for mild trem usage from subtle to Jeff Beck, I had no issues. It wasn't until you went pretty far in one direction or another. My advice would be to get the Wilkinson tremolo with the locking saddles. They are the same saddles used on the Suhr Pete Thorn model. I have them on a strat and they're phenomenal. You can't put the saddles on the Charvel bridge because the string spacing on the Charvel is slightly narrower. But you can order the Wilkinson bridge with locking saddles from the Wilkinson Reverb store. Email them for eta. But I always stretch my strings plenty. I've played for 33 years and I can tell you, most people swear to me they stretched their strings and when I pull on them, they go out. So stretch them well and use Big Bends Nut Sauce. You'll be fine.
Wow awesome demo and review! I just subscribed. Love the Guthrie’s but was interested in the DKs.
ponsau thanks man! Yeah, I love these guitars. You won't be disappointed.
Recently got the shell pink Charvel. Its one of the best guitars I've ever played on. Probably the best imo so far.
Excellent! That whole Charvel line is fantastic!
Exceptional review, and stellar playing!
Thank you so much!
HSS is my pick (also, I mean, it's pink, awesome), but they all sound awesome. Killer playing, wow!
Thank you so much!
Been eyeing the dk pro mods pink and matte green. Awesome review bro and sick chops
Imagine8 thanks so much, man! Much appreciated!
I got the pink pro mod. Worth every penny.
@@morky_mork also on the wall about the HH lmao so hard when there is such good gear lmao
@@DiegoHenaoV lol you can't really go wrong buddy, I want the new HH one as well haha
@@morky_mork lmao touche my dude
I like the orange Charvel man nice , & sounding 👍🎸🤟 . Thanks TroyFrost / Troyster 😎 CoolRiffs 😎 Cool 🎸 🤘🤘 🤘
Troy Frost thanks man! 🙌🏻🤘🏻🙏🏻
When I watch you play it makes me wish I could play Ran.
mistrcoffe thank you, it feels really great to hear that. Love you, brother.
Fantastic playing and demo, thank you.
Thank you very much!
Sounding glorious dude
Riley IoAcura aw, thank you so much, I appreciate that!
Great playing and video!!! :)
Thank you so much!
really good comparison and some great playing too. thanks
What a great demo Awesome
reacteur84 thank you so much!
Great playing, they all kind of sound awesome! Wanting the HSS or HSS single coil version.
Fantastic playing and demo... If I were to tell what I am hearing, the GGs sound so much fuller. And it sounds like it is more than a difference in body wood types (Basswood/Alder?), and more like a difference in overall quality, tell my magic ears.
Emre Emre thank you. As for the tone difference, I'd say the bulk of it lies in the pickups. The Full shreds are a high output pickup and it's evident. The Guthrie pickups are custom made by Michael Frank Braun and are lower output and much more open. They love nuance and take well to boosting later in the signal path. The basswood is definitely a flatter eq, which is why it's such a great tone wood. Also the differences in he Birdseye and Flametop (blue) Govans is also noticeably different. And that is the fact that the Birdseye is the very first run. The Flametop has a baked basswood body and the Birdseye does not. The baked body is lighter and noticeably more resonant. Overall, the Govans win. They'd better at 3 times the price. But I could EASILY play one of the DK24s instead without feeling I was missing out. Thought the Govans are superior, the DK24 2PT models are absolutely stellar and if you didn't HAVE the ability to compare the two, you wouldn't need to. I highly recommend the DK24s...unless you can swing the Govan, in which case...DO IT! 🙌🏻
Did I just hear you bust out some Kings X at 16:23?! Good stuff man!
D. Szarko thank you! King's X is my favorite band. Summerland or Goldilox will always appear here and there. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@@RandyWillcox then you have good taste! Mine too! Been listening to them since I was born lol
Great comparison and playing. Well done. Wasn't planning to, yet, I bought a Grey H-S-S model. In person, the grey slate has a blue tinge and is very appealing. Seriously, when I picked it up the first time, it felt like I've been playing it for the past 5 years or so. The SD's go together have a great bass to treble. This doesn't do the Strat quak, at least for me. And I have found that this is a good versatile pickup combination and does more than shred. Next up, I hate Fenders .... strats, teles, jazzmaster...... the twang, the neck radii, the scale length, basically everything about them, except their finishes - Fender has nice Sunbusts. The small local store just got it in and I thought, its new, why not try it, and I was ready to hate it. And in less than 5 minutes playing time, I bought it. Lastly, I bought the guitar last year when it first came out. And since then, I've done nothing to it except change strings. There is nothing on this guitar that I need upgraded. Nothing.
Western rider 100 thank you! Yup, you get it! 🙌🏻
i got my pink DK24 Last week i love it
paulcuban they're unbelievable! I can't wait to see the new ones at NAMM! 🙌🏻
@@RandyWillcox wish i was goin had an invite last year but its a bit of a trip from here in the UK . I was looking at a GG a few years back but ended up getting a MM JP15 .
@@RandyWillcox Forgot to mention Great playing ....
Really enjoyed this review. Found this and you via Cameron Cooper channel 👍
I plan to try those dk24 at some point 😃
Awesome playing, awesome guitars
Thank you!
Really nice demo Randy!
Thank you so much!
Very awesome review! Thanks
Thank you, I appreciate that! You're most welcome!
Nice review and incredible playing!
Dan Stringer thank you so much.
Brilliant video. Subscribed!
Macaroon thank you! 🤘🏻
Sick!!!!
Jordan Steele thank you! 🙌🏻
God dang man! you freaking amazing on guitar and must be rich af lol. Great vid man
Haha, thanks man! I'm definitely NOT rich, just really different priorities. I have a roommate, I almost never buy takeout food. I don't smoke so that saves me almost $6,000 a year (my parents were smokers who could never understand how people could afford vacations. They were mad when I pointed out that their cigarettes annually equalled a vacation AND new car payments). I don't have a Playstation or online gaming addiction (again, I mention this because I have friends who don't realize what they spend a month in games could get them a Guthrie Govan in a year or less). My clothes and shoes come from places like Century 21 and Burlington. So it's just about choices. My "vacation" every year is the NAMM show in LA instead of Greece, or Italy, or... So it's just choices I've made. Rich would be nice though, then I could still go to Greece and Italy and... :)
Rock and Roll to the metal..............I think I´m in love, ps. the next time I would love to see all the recording just from the frontal cam, the gorgoeus view is mesmerazing
🙏🏻😉
I don't know why but that pink guitar got my attention 😅
I bought one and it’s a gorgeous beast. ❤
For 2 minutes, this guy was a god to me
Great video and great playing!
Valantis Kitsakis thank you so much!
I’ve played the DK24 and I agree that they are excellent guitars. Sure there are some comers cut to bring the price down below a grand. But in the end its all subtle and nothing to get concerned about.
Agreed. That's why I made the video. I think the bang for the buck is ridiculously good.
I've never seen a GG Charvel with a blue top? Looks nice. Great playing and review. Thanks alot :-)
Lee Logan thank you! Yeah, I needed to add a little color for the stage. I'm thinking of redoing it a little more turquoise. Time will tell.
Holy shit! That was phenomenal!!!
Sorry I didn't see this comment before. Thank you so much!
I actually just ordered the orange one. Always wanted a Charvel guitar and finally took the chance. I'm still really into the Hair Metal music, but i HATE setting up floyd's. I am really hoping i like this guitar cause the choice was between this one and another DK model that was the Purple Phaze, but this one had that neck joint that was a great deal better to play with. Also the neck seems alot better on this one also..
robert powers good choice. I can't imagine you won't be pleased!
Really helpful, thank you. Especially the "boring" bit at the end. I think the expensive ones do sound noticeably better...which they jolly well should 😉
Haha. Thank you, I'm glad you like it. And I agree!
@@RandyWillcox I haven't made up my mind which pickup configuration to go for, but I am definitely getting one of these DK24s. Or possibly the HH. Or possibly the DK22 with the Hot Rail in the bridge ;-) I am sure they are all fantastic!
Exxxxxxcellent🤘
The single coils on the hss sound quite dark, quite similar to the humbucker variants
Absolutely. I didn't find them "stratty" enough.
I have the Orange DK24 and it is amazing. I compare it to the EB MM JP16/15 so for $1500 less. It really is that good.
I did change the bridge pup to a Seymour Duncan '78 for a medium output.
Elliot Serrano yeah, that's how I feel. At this price point it's ridiculous! And with a few bucks worth of mods it closes the gap even more.
The Full Shred HBs certainly are hotter. They're definitely edgier than the Guthrie also. Those have much more sensible and dynamic pickups. But I'm happy with the articulation of the Full Shred for being so hot.
Great demo! The Guthries just sound better to me (especially the light finish one), more open sounding, more rich, less harsh.
the radical kindness lightly finished guitars resonate better than unfinished guitars. That said, there is a lacquer finish on both. The "unfinished" model is just a hand-rubbed gel application that prevents the finish from feeling like a shell. It's basically satin. The "raw" feeling is an illusion. But yes, having just that extra little but of a sprayed finish makes a difference. And they do outshine the DK24s. But at 3x the price, they absolutely should.
@@RandyWillcox Totally agree on the finishes and thickness. I have a Novo and a thin skin tele and they both resonate for days. Sadly, I haven't played any of the Guthries yet, although that caramelized one has been calling my name.
Thanks for this awesome comparison video. I've had my eye on the Shell Pink or the Matt Army Drab Green (HSH). I love both but unsure on what pickup configuration to go for. Ill stop by a shop and hopefully get to try them out.
Great playing Randy! Subbed!
LifeisGuitar thank you so much! I'm glad you dig it! I hope you find the one for you!
Let us know which config you went for hsh or ssh .
I have to note that the Orange hsh DK24 neck pickup, while an Alnico 2 Pro, if you notice it has double hex pole piece screws, just like the Full Shred. I can’t find any information on this exact pickup, but rumor is that an A2Pro neck is a Jazz neck with an Alnico 2 magnet and the Full Shred neck is almost like a Jazz neck with double rows of hex pole screws instead of slugs and fillister screws. So I’m thinking this is something like an Alnico 2 Full Shred Neck. Either way, I like how it has a warm midrange with a sharp pick attack. The HH DK24’s Full Shred neck is kind of a cheese grater in comparison.
ConspireToConspire I've reached out to Duncan, but my experience is that for most OEM use, especially guitars made in mass out of the country, the pickup is made as an OEM part for the guitar manufacturer. It is likely it was done for either cost (not having both solid slugs and flat head screws means just making two identical bobbins and using all the same hex head poles vs having to differentiate the two) and for esthetics (both pickups match). But those are just examples of what I've encountered in my experience. I'll follow up when I get a response from Duncan.
that turquoise one is the best tone
You can easily spot the top end harshness of the SSfretted Guthrie guitars
Neth BT well, that's a matter of perspective. Personally, from the first time I played ss frets, I was hooked. I notice the difference in feel and tone immediately and prefer it. What some hear as harsh, I hear as bright and present. Nickel frets sound deader to me now. But ultimately, tone isn't made or broken with frets. The signal chain is greatly responsible for that. And the pickups have way more to do with it than the frets. But yes, the pedals and amps were the same for all 4 guitars. And I had it set for how I like it with the Guthries. If someone had a, we'll call it, "warmer" tone dialed in with their ss fret guitar, the nickel would sound duller by nature. Consequently, if I put Duncan Invaders in the DK24s, The Guthries would sound MUCH warmer than them. 😂 I prefer ss frets for feel and wear. Tone is so easily manipulated otherwise. 🤘🏻
Very cool.... now I want one.
You deserve waay more subs
Neth BT thank you, I really appreciate that. I freely admit though that I haven't attacked creating and posting content as much as I want to yet, but I went from 73 subs when I posted this video to almost 250 now and I haven't posted anything since so I need to step it up. The burden is totally on me. But it feels good to hear that. Thank you again.
If that doesnt get a thumbs out of you, you don't have a pulse! Flaming Fretboards!
I am in lust with the army drab green - the Orange Crush's , seen here, brother.. However, I've never seen the blue GG, that is Gorgeo! It might be the same to a blind man - but I ain't blind! That thang pretty!
AAA+ Video, brother, you slayed it!
Luey Sixty-six thank you! The Blue Guthrie started its life as a natural Guthrie. I spruced it up.
Randy Willcox Ooh! For realz?! Extraordinary job, Man!! Looks like you put binding on it. Did you just colour it not quite to the edges?
I have a dk24 army green, set up with gig bag I am looking to sell, it actually is a wonderful guitar, and stays remarkably in tune, however i am going toward more of a hollow body jazz sound.
Man, PU on the Gutheries are so much more clear in clean mode.
Robert Lynn yeah, they are lower output and much clearer and open sounding. That pretty much what I expected when I saw they were putting the "Full Shred" pickups in the DK24s. Haha. One of the reasons I wanted the Guthries is that characteristic. Output can always be lifted afterwards. But if the output is high to start, you don't have anywhere to go. Obviously you can roll off volume, etc. But you lose certain characteristics of the tone when you do that. The lower output pickups also allow more nuance when rolling down the volume. It's like the range of the volume pot has more options vs less. I haven't decided if I'll play with pickup swapping in the DK24s or not. I don't need all my guitars to be identical, that defeats the purpose. But I may go for a different flavor of lower output pickup.
Anything with shred in the name doesn't give me much confidence, but pickups are cheap. For $80, you could stick a used Alnico 2 Pro in the bridge to match the stock neck and swap that middle pickup out. I think I'm gonna pick one of these up and go that route.
Dude your playing is mad balls to the wall.
Cody Markley thanks man! I appreciate that!
Side note, what pick do you use?
Cody Markley using the Dunlop Petrucci Flow picks. I wish they were slightly smaller around, not quite Jazz III, but they are the best I've found so far. I tried the Andy James first and they were too big. So I tried the Petrucci because Andy said they were the same material and cut, just smaller. I tried the regular flow picks, but they grip so well you can't adjust them AT ALL! So if you want to switch to tapping the pick is like, "I don't think so, we're alternate picking today!"
sadly in europe it is around 1200 usd for the dk24, but still I really like the specs, sound, look and all the reviews. I might save up for one
"Oh hi there. Let me just demo what you can't do on this guitar".
Albert Wesker 😂🙏🏻
Great job mate!!
Thank you!
Links to other things you play? Bands, tracks? You write very well.
Thank you so much! I'm writing and recording a project now, but I need to produce more music. If you go to the "About" section of my TH-cam channel, there are links. Soundcloud probably has the most material to listen to. Thank you again!
Great comparison. Thanks.
Philip Bellew thanks! I'm glad you like it!
I’ve just ordered a Pro-Mod DK 24. This video really clinched it for me, so thanks again, Randy.