My bro when you release your synth baby I will preorder without even consulting my s/o if the price point is 600💶 or less, and we are starve saving for international travel this year. … if it’s more than that I’ll probably be a solid month 2 customer.
I built, with help from Waldorf, the first editor for the Kyra (Edisyn again). Some info: the Kyra is a VA. It is NOT a wavetable synth, despite unfortunate terminology in the manual. Many have pled to add wavetables, but I don't think it's going to happen given the FPGA architecture. I think the #1 issue is the lack of a jog dial for those waves and other large selection ranges. #2 is certainly menu diving. While the multimode UI can be confusing, multimode is *identical* to nearly every multitimbral synth in history: that is, multimode patches contain references to single patch slots but do not contain the single patches themselves. It's a great sounding and extraordinarily powerful synth. Sizewise: it's the same as the Iridium and M. Waldorf were, and remain, awesome to work with. EDIT: for those of you arguing that you can do wavetables in an FPGA, *of course you can.* The problem is that coding for an FPGA is not like coding for a DSP or CPU: retooling the Kyra's FPGA code for wavetables would be a nontrivial undertaking at this point, and I'm pretty certain this is not in the cards.
No, no. _This_ is the best Bad Gear ever. God damn you did a great job of illustrating the amazing sounds of Kyra. Great job! Also please forgive my plugging (for the thousandth time) the Kyra Controller Max4Live plugin I built - makes working with Kyra a lot easier for Ableton+Kyra users and does away with those goddamn +/- buttons for everything other than setting up Multis. :) I don't know how you keep getting better, Florian, but please never stop.
Thank you for your brilliant critiques and humorous banter. I genuinely enjoy and appreciate your work. Thanks and kind regards from Mick ‘down under’.
Thanks for the reply, I find the Waldorf salad of synths and the dressings of lush sounds that Waldorf gear provides incredibly inspirational. The synth universe is ever expanding ( I doubt that you will ever run out of material, both great and mediocre.) and let’s hope it continues to provide the occasional big bang with sprinkles of stardust. Again, kind regards from Mick down under.
Always admired Waldorf's medical-tech aesthetic. Never managed to get much in the way of true-grit out of them, but the anti-septic purity of units like this are a genuine joy to experience.
Nice one! I was one of the people that opted for a Hydrasynth instead simply because the Hydrasynth has a value dial and is 19 inch rack-mountable out of the box. You did a great job showing off the Kyra in this one though!
Another great episode! Can't wait to see what the boxticker 2077 looks like! No seriously though, imagine if you designed the ultimate synth and then worked with people to really build it. Considering your experience- it would be uniquely awesome and would definitely tick all the boxes.
That is a beautiful synth. I do love the "German White" look of Axel Hartmann's designs. I could certainly make it work in my productions. And I am happy to see the salsa I discovered made it into your production. Have a great weekend, Florian!
No one in the comment section seems to address what an FPGA is. FPGA stand for Field Programmable Gate Arrays. The simplest definition I can think of is if youre programming in C you define what a synth can do. if you program an FPGA its more like defining what the hardware can do. Youre defining logic gates and emulating hardware with software. FPGAs can be used for a variety of applications because youre actually defining the structure of the hardware inside of the chip rather than using software limitations that exist inside of the hardware
I thought about this thing. It was like 1400 USD on Thomann. But...the Hydrasynth Deluxe won out because I wanted full size keys, enough of them to relearn some basic piano on. Plus the ribbon and poly aftertouch are just nice to have tightly integrated into a synth. Also the 8 big, rubber sided metal encoders correspond nicely to an obsession that most software synth and sampled instrument makers seem to have with allowng no more than 8 macros. I also appreciate their determination to ship a full print of the manual with the instrument instead of referring me to their website to download anything more than a quick start guide. And the headphone port...it's on the front panel under the pitch and mod wheels. Not on the back or top. I like that. It makes me feel like the synth wants me to unplug from my computer and spend some alone time with it.
This sounds amazing. I got the UDO Super 6. Main Points Head to Head, Kyra sounds just as nice, if not nicer in many patches, especially with some of the more exotic waveshapes. Super 6 is set up more like a traditional analog synth and like the kyra can load wavetable shapes with an intuitive but limited OSC mixer. It also has massive stereo field capability. With a much more familiar and user friendly hands-on interface, the main point against the Super 6 compared to the kyra is it's price point at double the price.
The strangest thing about watching Audiopilz regularly is that I have this perversely positive association with "WARNING: THIS VIDEO CONTAINS FLASHING IMAGES." It just feels wrong to get excited about that.
@@AudioPilz where can I find this "internet" thing ? I asked my IT people to install it for me, but they just keep laughing at me and closing my support tickets.
I was super excited when I saw the Valkyrie prototype. It's the technical pinnacle of VA capabilities IMO. It deserves way more love. It felt like Waldorf took it, released it, then immediately pivoted to other products.
I think the issue is FPGA programming is complex (more like circuit design - so boil your heads, "VST in a box" imbeciles).. and the designer himself was not part of what was signed over. So there's nobody there to work on the firmware. It's a great shame really as being all FPGA based it's one of the synths out there that perhaps has the most potential to evolve via updates
As you said, its a very cool and sexy looking synth, but should i ever be in the market for a top shelf Waldorf, it would not be the Kyra. I’d choose the Iridium probably. Nice Jams as always!
What about that groove box ? hehe !!! Exellent review as usual , straight to the point , and craziest thing is that you make some great tracks with gear that you don't connect with that much lol couldn't be that thing we call "talent" ? omg !!! I§ actually think of grabbing one .... the filter is just a piece of art ,and now that we have editors around this might help for the absence of knobs and those menu diving ....
I bought an Alesis Micron because of the episode on it... this episode is making me want to buy this piece of Bad Gear... Maybe I should be more careful with watching your videos :D Great episode as always
if you make a groovebox, I will buy it. you probably have more of an idea of what people want from a groovebox or synth than 99% of the people signing off on, and designing the same.
Imo workflow is the most important aspect of a hardware synth, and is also the most nebulous to pin down. Then on top of that no two people want the exact same feature set
Man, those tones are juicy. Almost as nice as my Super 6 ;) which does have FPGA oscillators, but analogue filters. There’s a very similar “custom wave but not wavetable” system there too. The 128 voices and multitimbrality are definitely ahead of mine though! I suppose that’s the power of a fully-FPGA virtual analogue path. Anyway yes, as I said at the start, very juicy indeed. Definitely sounds crisp, but that could easily be changed with a saturation plugin. I wonder if some slight drift between the voices can be programmed in, which would also help alleviate some of that coldness when people want to avoid that.
But The Frozen Autumn use a PPG Wave and an Elka Synthex, if I remember well ? It's true that they have a ton of synths and I have seen them with a Waldorf Blofeld on one photo...
Nice video with some fair criticisms. Despite the minor gripes including lack of data wheel and less-than-optimal wavetable integration, the Kyra's sound quality is excellent and options for design/modulation are extensive. For me, even many of the factory patches are performance oriented and capable of being highly expressive. The build quality feels like late 80's Akai Professional (think MPC60 or S950). Just the right amount of weight and physical presence. No knob wobble, super smooth potentiometers with just the rights amount of resistance. Everything feels solid. It look me a bit to figure out how to get it working within Bitwig but once I did, wow! Soundcard mode is awesome. 8 stereo instances available and seamless integration with the DAW. Full disclosure I bought the Kyra second hand. It was a great deal at $1150.
You're truly the greatest Florian Pilz who has ever lived. I check, the other ones are dull as ditchwater. I'm look at you, quality manger of Houdek Arzberg GmbH from Azberg Germany!
I use Waldorf Kyra, and Waldorf Iridium. Very worthy. I agree - not for beginners, but the number of presets allows you to use it out of the box - experience may come later.
Heinz Edelmann. Well known Czech-German illustrator (worked with the Beatles), but also a a brand of Austrian Pickled Sauerkraut. The net resulting sensory effect is about the same! Also...one of these facts may be entirely made up.🤓
It might be too similar to what you've showcased for us today, but I'd love to see you cover the Access Virus TI Snow! It's like a Virus, but scaled back... what fun is that?! Also, I've been eying one and can't decide if I want to buy it. Anways.... Great episode as always!
@@teamphil AudioPilz said he'll create a video when he can fill an entire screen with complaints about that device. I don't think he'll be able to do that with the Virus A/B/C. TI maybe but that'll be the same complaint over and over again: TI not working as advertised on modern Macs - so I don't think that'll count either.
Boxticker 2077 😂 Made my day! ❤ Great episode - makes me wanna have one - also gets me thinking of getting an old XT....btw I always put reverb on my sub bass! It’s like, reverb? Yes, please! Keep it up and happy new year!
One day I would like to see you do a reading in your inimitable style and delivery from the books on your shelf, a page of Kafka, Shakespeare, or Cosmopolis, with some background synth accompaniment of course, but no meme flashes, just a fixed camera shot, that would be cool
Ah, Kyra, one of my favs! Has a great origin story, and that zero aliasing makes it sweet and clean sounding. Great job showing off some sonic capabilities 😁
6:30 "The four line stereo outputs aren't totally my thing". I think you just made Waldorf really angry. lol. Like probably 20% of the cost at least went to those outputs. Great video, as always.
I love the sound of waldorfs Kyra and M. But from a usability standpoint i think Iridium is the only option for me personally. Also, who could afford all of them...
Awesome community service. I always wondered about this thing. It seemed Waldorf didn’t show it too much love either…like they got a better return from the Iridium I guess.
It did sound pretty great, I must say. As for any coldness, there are those little things called Airwindows plugins, which can make the most sterile Ultranova patch sound like it was recorded direct to lathe vinyl in the jungles of Bolivia. Plus they are free, so unless you’re DAW-less all the way there is no reason to reject fat but too clean synths like this.
@@Pictus_Invictus ToTape for analogization and loudness, ADclip for extra loudness before the limiter (I don’t think he’s done a limiter proper, since it’s uncool in these post-loudness war times), all weird effects for weirdness. Many of his plugins beat the shit out of commercial versions, and consumes little to no CPU. His personality holds him back though, and I don’t mean that he is unpleasant or anything, but his line of thinking is often difficult to understand. Partly because he’s smart AF, but also because his condition means he doesn’t exactly start at the right end to make it easy to understand. No matter, Airwindows is awesome all the way.
the Waldorf Kyra is best hardware synth which all musician must have, here's the why: 1.even you have current best pc, you can't handle soft synth in higher setup, e.g. 192khz, most project runs soft synth in 44.1, 2.most hardware synth has less limited voices, 1 synth for 1 track, Kyra can loads more track, Kyra = less cpu, higher sound quality.
Cool, you are right, too clean. I recently got me a korg ms 2000R (rack model) and although I’m happy with it, something is missing. 😉 another good candidate for bad gear. I’ll lend you mine
Gotta do the Zoia some day. I hated that thing. Just sold it. Menu diving Hell with a single encoder and a tiny screen. Requires a bunch of cables constantly sticking out the back while you're trying to program it. If only it had a computer patch editor or a headphone jack and a battery. That said, if Empress ever decides to make a mixer with Zoia brains and enough processing power to handle all the line ins, I'd buy it in an instant.
It's like an Access Virus successor that Access themselves never got around to making! Even the up/down buttons for selecting a ridiculous amount of options remind me of the same setup for selecting a patch on my Virus KB.
Every time I hear this synth I like the full lush wide sound of it. But in every TH-cam video about it there’s heavy critics about the user interface and Waldorf not developing this platform. Reminds me of that other lush synth that I actually have and really enjoy. The Roland D70. Love-hate relationship but very rewarding when you take time to totally reprogram the thing. I would really like you to make a Badgear episode about that one. And now I still don’t know wether to buy a Kyra. Can one handle two love-hate relationships at once? Decisions, decisions. :-)
This is one of those synths that’s hard to sell when the Novation Peak is right there and has true wavetable morphing for $600 dollars less. Looks and sounds great though.
@@BellXllebMusicIt is possible through the DAW to control 4 different sounds separately, and at the same time - the instrument has 4 stereo outputs. 8-part multitimbrality. Sound can also be recorded via USB.
Didn't dare we did. 🙃 I do think there is something to this sound I would love to see Novation apply these chips in a eurorack module. A full size keyboard with minimal menu diving would be a winner too as mentioned already.
No doubt it’s a great synth. Thing is, I’ve used the TI range in anger since 2006. I know it very well and for live use, my TI2 Keyboard sits with my MPC L2 delivering multi Timberlake channels of old school midi brilliance.. the Kyra form factor is just a bit alien to me. Maybe I ought to start nosing around it a bit more.
@@AudioPilz Now the serios question. Can you estimate how many hours takes you (or your team) to make that kind high quality video? It is a MASTERPIECE!
Oh... I get so excited just looking at so many metal knobs! And glad that you are upping your meme game with ChatGPT. The AI can be a bit hit and miss, but can be decent with enough tries. Love it. Oh! And the meme with Segata Sanshiro (the weird judo fighter punching on an oversized Sega Saturn joypad) made my day. Thanks!
Just found your channel. Most excellent video, but damn, this editing and graphics makes me feel like I just smoked crack in a public restroom. Also i dig your trance track, good shit
![[#2024MAMA] G-DRAGON - 무제(Untitled, 2014)+POWER+HOME SWEET HOME+뱅뱅뱅+FANTASTIC BABY | Mnet 241123 방송](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ox29z5Nf1Uk/mqdefault.jpg)
Audiopilz: *slaps roof of YT channel*
Full Tracks, Extended Jams, Sample Packs: www.patreon.com/audiopilz
My bro when you release your synth baby I will preorder without even consulting my s/o if the price point is 600💶 or less, and we are starve saving for international travel this year.
… if it’s more than that I’ll probably be a solid month 2 customer.
What's the movie clip at the beginning?
@@june_yah @Dose and Tamp It's the German series Dark
I think you're going to have to develop the "BoxTicker 2077" for real now....
can i buy the midtempo trance song by subbing patreon or can i find the full version on bandcamp?
I built, with help from Waldorf, the first editor for the Kyra (Edisyn again). Some info: the Kyra is a VA. It is NOT a wavetable synth, despite unfortunate terminology in the manual. Many have pled to add wavetables, but I don't think it's going to happen given the FPGA architecture. I think the #1 issue is the lack of a jog dial for those waves and other large selection ranges. #2 is certainly menu diving. While the multimode UI can be confusing, multimode is *identical* to nearly every multitimbral synth in history: that is, multimode patches contain references to single patch slots but do not contain the single patches themselves. It's a great sounding and extraordinarily powerful synth. Sizewise: it's the same as the Iridium and M. Waldorf were, and remain, awesome to work with.
EDIT: for those of you arguing that you can do wavetables in an FPGA, *of course you can.* The problem is that coding for an FPGA is not like coding for a DSP or CPU: retooling the Kyra's FPGA code for wavetables would be a nontrivial undertaking at this point, and I'm pretty certain this is not in the cards.
Thanks for the info!!!
I own a Kyra and will check out your editor, thank you!
Let's see, $2,099.99 at Sweetwater. €1599 at Thomann's. Not bad. At least we know where the real hipster lives.
If you can program the fpga, you can make it into an wavetable synth
PS Access Virus TI2 Desktop, $1999 at Sweetwater, €1699 at Thomann's. Stop kidding people.
Watching Bad Gear as become my Friday evening tradition, and i love it
Have a nice weekend!
Same. And stopping to read every meme
Oh yea!!!
By the way...
It is now Friday my dude
@@jregras Ahah, can't wait !
You are in a good company!
No, no. _This_ is the best Bad Gear ever. God damn you did a great job of illustrating the amazing sounds of Kyra. Great job! Also please forgive my plugging (for the thousandth time) the Kyra Controller Max4Live plugin I built - makes working with Kyra a lot easier for Ableton+Kyra users and does away with those goddamn +/- buttons for everything other than setting up Multis. :) I don't know how you keep getting better, Florian, but please never stop.
Thanks, Matt!!!
Your plug is very welcome, because I was hoping someone would make a M4L solution
The editing is always so top notch. This series really is a symphony of beautiful moving parts
And his memes are kinda funny!
Thank you!!!
@@Dartagnan65 KINDA funny? To the corner with you
never get tired of the intro tune, one of the cleverest ideias i've seen in "synth channels"
Thank you!!!
Wow, never realized the Kyra sounds this good! This is on my wishlist now!
Nice, certainly great for future synthwave
Hey Timecop 1983! Big fan!
It does, right!! Same here! ...... and subbed to your channel!!
Thank you for your brilliant critiques and humorous banter. I genuinely enjoy and appreciate your work. Thanks and kind regards from Mick ‘down under’.
Thank you so much!!!
Thanks for the reply, I find the Waldorf salad of synths and the dressings of lush sounds that Waldorf gear provides incredibly inspirational. The synth universe is ever expanding ( I doubt that you will ever run out of material, both great and mediocre.) and let’s hope it continues to provide the occasional big bang with sprinkles of stardust. Again, kind regards from Mick down under.
Man! It literally took me half an hour to watch this 10 mins. masterpiece of editing! And btw.: Go for the Boxticker 2077 😆
Thank you so much!!!
@@AudioPilz I would suggest a more marketing-aggressive name, like GASmaker XL, or something along those lines 😄
Always admired Waldorf's medical-tech aesthetic. Never managed to get much in the way of true-grit out of them, but the anti-septic purity of units like this are a genuine joy to experience.
Really like the looks too
Bonus points for throwing in the classic Waldorf salad reference
Thank you!!!
Next time (if there is one) it has to be old cigarettes, Hotels and esoteric education.
Delectable & Tasty salad to my ears!!
Love the sound! Thank you for providing us with a much needed dose of gear, which is definitely ticking some of our boxes too.
Thank you!!!
This made me want to buy a kyra. Best sounding VA in existence and 8 multitimbtal!
It definitely sounds nice!!!
I like my Kross 2 better, 16 parts multitimbral. More bold and punchy, or even my monotimbral Take 5!
Roland is finally giving you a signature synth at musikmesse! No one deserves it more than you.
Spoiler alert: It's Uli;)
@@AudioPilz 3 individual out's per voice and potentiometers you could hang a side of beef from !!
@@6pin66 ive ever wanted multiple outputs per voice, i have tons of soldered cables
@@AudioPilz Behringer at it again...
@@AudioPilzone of these days he'll copy your idea and name a synth the Behringer Uli
Love that Cinematic EDM jam! I'm sure you know this already but you have real compositional ability
Thank you so much!!!
The visuals for the final are so beautifully trippy ❤
😀😀😀
I was sad when it stopped
@@Roboprogs - I can still see the trails!
th-cam.com/video/CXIjbbet1V4/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely.
@AudioPilz , what's the source of the animated sequence in the Finale (Cinematic Trance), between 09:02-09:29?
Love the retro animation in the closing jam!
Thanks!!!
It looks like yellow submarine meets monty python
I remember those animations, but I can‘t place them. Someone enlighten me? Great video!
@@volkerkluting3793 th-cam.com/video/CXIjbbet1V4/w-d-xo.html
@@volkerkluting3793 Intro to German Television ZDF Series "Der phantastische Film" in the 70´s
Nice one! I was one of the people that opted for a Hydrasynth instead simply because the Hydrasynth has a value dial and is 19 inch rack-mountable out of the box. You did a great job showing off the Kyra in this one though!
Thank you!!!
Another great episode! Can't wait to see what the boxticker 2077 looks like! No seriously though, imagine if you designed the ultimate synth and then worked with people to really build it. Considering your experience- it would be uniquely awesome and would definitely tick all the boxes.
Thank you!!! Let's see if there are any manufacturers crazy enough for that;)
@@AudioPilz YES! Start a Kickstarter?!!
I just purchased this unit new for 1/2 the price. Thanks for the video.
Both you and Zack have great channels, love watching you both!
Thank you!!!
That is a beautiful synth. I do love the "German White" look of Axel Hartmann's designs. I could certainly make it work in my productions. And I am happy to see the salsa I discovered made it into your production. Have a great weekend, Florian!
Thanks for the salsa meme!!!
No one in the comment section seems to address what an FPGA is. FPGA stand for Field Programmable Gate Arrays. The simplest definition I can think of is if youre programming in C you define what a synth can do. if you program an FPGA its more like defining what the hardware can do. Youre defining logic gates and emulating hardware with software. FPGAs can be used for a variety of applications because youre actually defining the structure of the hardware inside of the chip rather than using software limitations that exist inside of the hardware
Thanks for the heads up!
I thought about this thing. It was like 1400 USD on Thomann. But...the Hydrasynth Deluxe won out because I wanted full size keys, enough of them to relearn some basic piano on. Plus the ribbon and poly aftertouch are just nice to have tightly integrated into a synth. Also the 8 big, rubber sided metal encoders correspond nicely to an obsession that most software synth and sampled instrument makers seem to have with allowng no more than 8 macros. I also appreciate their determination to ship a full print of the manual with the instrument instead of referring me to their website to download anything more than a quick start guide. And the headphone port...it's on the front panel under the pitch and mod wheels. Not on the back or top. I like that. It makes me feel like the synth wants me to unplug from my computer and spend some alone time with it.
Love the Hydra!
Good to see Dark on the intro. Great series
Thank you!!!
My mom once walked in on me watching Dark. I told her it was porn because it's easier to explain.
@@FatSynthDude Haha
This sounds amazing. I got the UDO Super 6. Main Points Head to Head, Kyra sounds just as nice, if not nicer in many patches, especially with some of the more exotic waveshapes. Super 6 is set up more like a traditional analog synth and like the kyra can load wavetable shapes with an intuitive but limited OSC mixer. It also has massive stereo field capability. With a much more familiar and user friendly hands-on interface, the main point against the Super 6 compared to the kyra is it's price point at double the price.
UDO is such a great instrument!!!
The strangest thing about watching Audiopilz regularly is that I have this perversely positive association with "WARNING: THIS VIDEO CONTAINS FLASHING IMAGES." It just feels wrong to get excited about that.
Thanks! Better safe than sorry;)
I'd argue most ravers get very excited about the prospect of suffering an epileptic shock while listening to killer tunes :P
I like the comic book references...and mental use of memes with his comedic gift.
@@Yuzuki1337 A right of Passage!
It's not wrong. I find it quite arousing too. 😀
Hello. Got one (SE blue edition) what a powerhouse paired with my Hapax ! Great sound !
🤣 "REAL simulated woodgrain sides" that one made me crack a rib
😀
me too 😂
Ok but seriously this is GOOD gear! I want one now. Anyway thanks for another great one. My weekend can finally start now!
Thanks for watching!!!
@@AudioPilz Any time Bae. .You know I can't start my weekend without you
Dear God Man! How do you find all those clips!?! Your CPM (clip per min) is off the charts. Nice work, as always. :)
Thank you!!! I use that new internet thing;)
@@AudioPilz where can I find this "internet" thing ? I asked my IT people to install it for me, but they just keep laughing at me and closing my support tickets.
Jam 2 had my mouth watering - excellent work
Thank you!!!
I was super excited when I saw the Valkyrie prototype. It's the technical pinnacle of VA capabilities IMO.
It deserves way more love. It felt like Waldorf took it, released it, then immediately pivoted to other products.
Yeah, looks like early product abandonment indeed
It has great sounding oscillators and filters. Programming using an editor gets you more mileage out of it
I think the issue is FPGA programming is complex (more like circuit design - so boil your heads, "VST in a box" imbeciles).. and the designer himself was not part of what was signed over. So there's nobody there to work on the firmware. It's a great shame really as being all FPGA based it's one of the synths out there that perhaps has the most potential to evolve via updates
@@Wagoo agree. Super 6 is fgpa and it sounds so lush. I know there’s an analog filter but still the oscillators sound analog
@@LocaliLLocano Super 6 and Peak/Summit are both proof the hybrid approach works extremely well.
great pick using that Heinz Edelmann animation at the end. for the unaware: he was the art director for the Yellow Submarine movie.
Thanks!!! To my surprise he didn't do that much animation work. I just found this and YS
As you said, its a very cool and sexy looking synth, but should i ever be in the market for a top shelf Waldorf, it would not be the Kyra. I’d choose the Iridium probably.
Nice Jams as always!
Thanks!!! Yeah, there's quite some in-house competition
What about that groove box ? hehe !!!
Exellent review as usual , straight to the point , and craziest thing is that you make some great tracks with gear that you don't connect with that much lol couldn't be that thing we call "talent" ? omg !!!
I§ actually think of grabbing one .... the filter is just a piece of art ,and now that we have editors around this might help for the absence of knobs and those menu diving ....
I bought an Alesis Micron because of the episode on it... this episode is making me want to buy this piece of Bad Gear... Maybe I should be more careful with watching your videos :D Great episode as always
Thanky you!!
WoW that mid tempo Trance thing was really great ! Great to watch your video as always !
Thanks!!!
if you make a groovebox, I will buy it. you probably have more of an idea of what people want from a groovebox or synth than 99% of the people signing off on, and designing the same.
Imo workflow is the most important aspect of a hardware synth, and is also the most nebulous to pin down. Then on top of that no two people want the exact same feature set
9:14 I love this moment. Not the sound I expected and it really grabs my attention 😎👍
Thank you!!!
Man, those tones are juicy. Almost as nice as my Super 6 ;) which does have FPGA oscillators, but analogue filters. There’s a very similar “custom wave but not wavetable” system there too.
The 128 voices and multitimbrality are definitely ahead of mine though! I suppose that’s the power of a fully-FPGA virtual analogue path.
Anyway yes, as I said at the start, very juicy indeed. Definitely sounds crisp, but that could easily be changed with a saturation plugin. I wonder if some slight drift between the voices can be programmed in, which would also help alleviate some of that coldness when people want to avoid that.
Mmmmmh, juicy;)
Awesome track with the Elektron. Would be so cool for an album’s worth of this kind of music.
Thanks! Full tracks can be found on Patreon (shameless plug;)
I like the sound of the Kyra. It's instant Frozen Authumn! It's got their sonic texture.
Nice analogy
But The Frozen Autumn use a PPG Wave and an Elka Synthex, if I remember well ? It's true that they have a ton of synths and I have seen them with a Waldorf Blofeld on one photo...
FPGA tech in synths hells yeah! They have been great at recreating retro game consoles for a while now, exciting tech!
I want to play some retro games now too
Zach Marr was asking for it. (Edit: if you can find enough hate for it, prove them all wrong! Suggestion: TR-6S by Roland)
Totally!!!
Nice video with some fair criticisms. Despite the minor gripes including lack of data wheel and less-than-optimal wavetable integration, the Kyra's sound quality is excellent and options for design/modulation are extensive. For me, even many of the factory patches are performance oriented and capable of being highly expressive. The build quality feels like late 80's Akai Professional (think MPC60 or S950). Just the right amount of weight and physical presence. No knob wobble, super smooth potentiometers with just the rights amount of resistance. Everything feels solid. It look me a bit to figure out how to get it working within Bitwig but once I did, wow! Soundcard mode is awesome. 8 stereo instances available and seamless integration with the DAW. Full disclosure I bought the Kyra second hand. It was a great deal at $1150.
True that, build quality is similar to the classics!!!
Bought out by Waldorf just before Irridium was released, all firmware development was then halted. it was a hit job, plain and simple.
That sounds like a VERY plausible theory
the music demos always is so good, that's a placer to watch.
Thank you so much!
You're truly the greatest Florian Pilz who has ever lived.
I check, the other ones are dull as ditchwater. I'm look at you, quality manger of Houdek Arzberg GmbH from Azberg Germany!
I bet that imposter doesn't even talk _exactly_ like Arnold Schwarzenegger
@@Wagoo Yea, I bet he can't even shit on half of my rig through creative use of memes, original compositions and tasteful video editing 😏
Thanks but there's a former workmate of mine with that exact name and I think he's a pretty cool guy;)
I use Waldorf Kyra, and Waldorf Iridium. Very worthy. I agree - not for beginners, but the number of presets allows you to use it out of the box - experience may come later.
Nice!!! True that!
So this is where Waldorf's own Kaiju universe starts, eh? As with Iridium I'm too shy to approach it, also fearing it will bite my arms off
DANGER ZONE!!!
Your art and sound are always mind blowing 🤯
Thank you!!!
At first glance, the Boxticker 2077 is ticking all the boxes.
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oh it’s really gigantic :-)) imagine having this and Akai MPC Force joined together .. you need pretty big desk for such combo :)))
We're going to need a bigger boat;)
@@AudioPilz 🤣🤣🤣
I have mine mounted on a VESA adjustable arm!
This sounds beautiful.
I love Waldorf Synths.
Big Waldorf fan here too!
As a analog vintage synth connoisseur I have to say I love my Blofeld! Woldorf just has a particular nice sound, as demonstrated here.
Big Waldorf fan here!
this channel is very amusing,plus the reviews are great.Keep it up! and txh🤗
Thank you!!!
Those Milton glaser style visuals at the end are amazing! What are those? Congrats as usual!
Thanks!!! Heinz Edelmann!!!
Heinz Edelmann. Well known Czech-German illustrator (worked with the Beatles), but also a a brand of Austrian Pickled Sauerkraut.
The net resulting sensory effect is about the same!
Also...one of these facts may be entirely made up.🤓
th-cam.com/video/hsjUdJfiXOM/w-d-xo.html
wow sogar das "Phantastische Film" Intro ist drin. Wie immer toll
Vielen Dank!!! Ein Kenner!
@@AudioPilz Hey, als ich klein war, war dieser Vorspann manchmal wesentlich gruseliger als die Filme, die danach liefen...
It might be too similar to what you've showcased for us today, but I'd love to see you cover the Access Virus TI Snow! It's like a Virus, but scaled back... what fun is that?!
Also, I've been eying one and can't decide if I want to buy it.
Anways.... Great episode as always!
Thanks!!! Great suggestion!
I’d love to see the access virus too. I’ve been on the fence for that synth for like 15 years…
@@teamphil AudioPilz said he'll create a video when he can fill an entire screen with complaints about that device. I don't think he'll be able to do that with the Virus A/B/C. TI maybe but that'll be the same complaint over and over again: TI not working as advertised on modern Macs - so I don't think that'll count either.
@A Dev yeah but, I specifically mentioned the Snow... There's gotta be complaints about the snow
Boxticker 2077 😂 Made my day! ❤
Great episode - makes me wanna have one - also gets me thinking of getting an old XT....btw I always put reverb on my sub bass! It’s like, reverb? Yes, please! Keep it up and happy new year!
Thank you!!!
One day I would like to see you do a reading in your inimitable style and delivery from the books on your shelf, a page of Kafka, Shakespeare, or Cosmopolis, with some background synth accompaniment of course, but no meme flashes, just a fixed camera shot, that would be cool
Great suggestion! Thanks!!!
This thing sounds fantastic. Great job, Florian.
Thanks!
A groovebox from AudioPilz? I'm intrigued!
So am I;)
I didn't expect to see Topper Harley, Pete "Strahlemann" Thompson and Kent Gregory in this episode 😀
Best!
Virus still rulez :). Great episode!
Thanks!!!
I love Waldorf more than Access but you are totally right !!
Ah, Kyra, one of my favs! Has a great origin story, and that zero aliasing makes it sweet and clean sounding. Great job showing off some sonic capabilities 😁
Thank you!!!
6:30 "The four line stereo outputs aren't totally my thing". I think you just made Waldorf really angry. lol. Like probably 20% of the cost at least went to those outputs. Great video, as always.
Thanks! Sorry for mumbling, I REALLY like them
I love the sound of waldorfs Kyra and M. But from a usability standpoint i think Iridium is the only option for me personally. Also, who could afford all of them...
Only heard good things about the Iridium
Awesome community service. I always wondered about this thing. It seemed Waldorf didn’t show it too much love either…like they got a better return from the Iridium I guess.
Thanks! Yeah, looks like early abandonment...
Wow, I consider myself to be a Bad Gear connoisseur, but I've never heard of the Kyra before.
That one is The Great White Shark;)
Whaaaaat?
Tbf this is probably the best gear to be considered Bad Gear so far
I have always wanted one of these, sounds good to me.
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It did sound pretty great, I must say. As for any coldness, there are those little things called Airwindows plugins, which can make the most sterile Ultranova patch sound like it was recorded direct to lathe vinyl in the jungles of Bolivia. Plus they are free, so unless you’re DAW-less all the way there is no reason to reject fat but too clean synths like this.
Lathe vinyl in the jungles of Bolivia? I'm in!!!
You had me at Ultranova...
What are your Airwindows recommendations? Thanks!
@@Pictus_Invictus ToTape for analogization and loudness, ADclip for extra loudness before the limiter (I don’t think he’s done a limiter proper, since it’s uncool in these post-loudness war times), all weird effects for weirdness. Many of his plugins beat the shit out of commercial versions, and consumes little to no CPU. His personality holds him back though, and I don’t mean that he is unpleasant or anything, but his line of thinking is often difficult to understand. Partly because he’s smart AF, but also because his condition means he doesn’t exactly start at the right end to make it easy to understand. No matter, Airwindows is awesome all the way.
@@extrudersfx4571 Thank You!
the Waldorf Kyra is best hardware synth which all musician must have, here's the why:
1.even you have current best pc, you can't handle soft synth in higher setup, e.g. 192khz, most project runs soft synth in 44.1,
2.most hardware synth has less limited voices, 1 synth for 1 track, Kyra can loads more track,
Kyra = less cpu, higher sound quality.
You have a point there
Cool, you are right, too clean. I recently got me a korg ms 2000R (rack model) and although I’m happy with it, something is missing. 😉 another good candidate for bad gear. I’ll lend you mine
Thanks! I'm searching for one of these for quite some time now
What highway takes me to from California to Austria the fastest? 🤔 you could totally use mine
Oh my god. 2004!
Ha! I just noticed picture of Nick's pulse wave reflectivity pattern. Seriously, my Fridays are not complete without Bad Gear.
Thank you!!!
The Boxticker 2077 sounds interesting, will it be playable after 2 years of bugfixes and upgrades?
Early product abandonment included;)
Gotta do the Zoia some day. I hated that thing. Just sold it. Menu diving Hell with a single encoder and a tiny screen. Requires a bunch of cables constantly sticking out the back while you're trying to program it. If only it had a computer patch editor or a headphone jack and a battery. That said, if Empress ever decides to make a mixer with Zoia brains and enough processing power to handle all the line ins, I'd buy it in an instant.
Great suggestion, thanks!
Honestly, I feel like this is the synth that could have been. It can sound good, but is just such a pain. I returned mine after two weeks.
I feel you!
Love to see youre experienced gear knowledge mold in a PILZMEISTER Groovebox some day :)
Thank you!!!
It's like an Access Virus successor that Access themselves never got around to making! Even the up/down buttons for selecting a ridiculous amount of options remind me of the same setup for selecting a patch on my Virus KB.
Yes, there's a lot of Virus DNA in that thing
No there isn't! ;)
Amazing, as per usual!
Thank you!!!
Ooh a beautiful looking synth using fpgas? I don’t even care what it sounds like, I need to have it! I mean I’m not even good at making music XD
I think it would make a great collector's piece in 2035;)
@@AudioPilz white might not be the best color for that though 😂
@@stheil there's a limited seablue version out there at the moment 😉
@Digital Duch omg and limited edition too? That makes it an even better investment! Let me just grab my credit card...
Every time I hear this synth I like the full lush wide sound of it. But in every TH-cam video about it there’s heavy critics about the user interface and Waldorf not developing this platform. Reminds me of that other lush synth that I actually have and really enjoy. The Roland D70. Love-hate relationship but very rewarding when you take time to totally reprogram the thing. I would really like you to make a Badgear episode about that one. And now I still don’t know wether to buy a Kyra. Can one handle two love-hate relationships at once? Decisions, decisions. :-)
Great suggestion!!! Thanks!
Pro tip: watch the videos at .25x so you can actually read all the memes. Plus it gives you 4 times the bad gear.
Way to go❤️❤️❤️
saw the patch name "subscribe!" for the first time. Very funny, congratulations for this little easter egg!
Thank you!!!
I think I saw two "Subscribe" patches this week!
This is one of those synths that’s hard to sell when the Novation Peak is right there and has true wavetable morphing for $600 dollars less. Looks and sounds great though.
Yeah, the Peak is quite powerful!
8 voices, against 128 polyphony
@@Yakuro you only have 10 fingers anyway so 8 is just 2 less than 128
@@BellXllebMusicIt is possible through the DAW to control 4 different sounds separately, and at the same time - the instrument has 4 stereo outputs. 8-part multitimbrality. Sound can also be recorded via USB.
Out of all this, the message that I got is that I should start saving for the boxticker 2077!
So should I;)
The constant Virus comparisons for the poor Kyra always drove me up the wall. People are really desperate for Access to do something.. anything! 😂
Most of them came from its creator though...
I choked on my lunch and am crying from laughing at the 32 bit question at 5:43 🤣
That one had me rofling too!
Sounds better than the Access TI. The bass is deep with this one.
Bass is gorgeous!!!
How dare you.
Didn't dare we did. 🙃 I do think there is something to this sound I would love to see Novation apply these chips in a eurorack module. A full size keyboard with minimal menu diving would be a winner too as mentioned already.
Jam 2 ist der Hammer...würd ich kaufen das Release.
Danke!!! Den ganzen Jam gibt's auf Patreon(Gebrauchtwagenverkäufermodus off;)
Kyra is a synth I never see myself being interested in and I just can’t explain why. It’s Virus TI2 all the way for me.
I want a TI2 too!!!
I have the Virus TI and my Kyra eats it for breakfast...
No doubt it’s a great synth. Thing is, I’ve used the TI range in anger since 2006. I know it very well and for live use, my TI2 Keyboard sits with my MPC L2 delivering multi Timberlake channels of old school midi brilliance.. the Kyra form factor is just a bit alien to me. Maybe I ought to start nosing around it a bit more.
Your channel brightens up my gloomy Friday evenings. 👍
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You're not German? With your accent, that means only one thing, you are an Australian!
We DO have kangaroos;)
I think the most pleasing Cutoff Knobs for me are the big 'boss-style' knobs at f.e. the Pittsburgh Modular sv1❤️🤣
Nice!
Looks like MC-101 on steroids... Ok... let's watch it first.
Isn’t that just an MC-707?
Ok...Arturia looks like a dwarf near this beasty device. I see some design flaws but the sound is huge. Great review... as usually.
They messed up the color scheme;)
@@AudioPilz Now the serios question. Can you estimate how many hours takes you (or your team) to make that kind high quality video? It is a MASTERPIECE!
Oh... I get so excited just looking at so many metal knobs!
And glad that you are upping your meme game with ChatGPT. The AI can be a bit hit and miss, but can be decent with enough tries. Love it.
Oh! And the meme with Segata Sanshiro (the weird judo fighter punching on an oversized Sega Saturn joypad) made my day. Thanks!
Thank you!!!
In case I ever get my hands on a Kyra, I will only touch it with gloves. Look at it! Such a clean synth!
Way to go
Just found your channel. Most excellent video, but damn, this editing and graphics makes me feel like I just smoked crack in a public restroom. Also i dig your trance track, good shit
Thank you!!! I'd rather stay away from hard drugs tho;)