After years of LotR lore youtube channels based themselves on accuracy of the lore,all of a sudden they totally shilled out,thats what bugs me the most how people can sell out their integrity
Yea, many of them suddenly don't care about accuracy or respect for Tolkien. Perhaps they never did, only when it suited their content creation but do they really have to sell out to succeed on TH-cam? they can easily criticize the show and gain as many viewers if not much more.
Sadly, even the one cool-looking thing in this God-forsaken show, the Balrog, is completely out of place lore-wise. All remaining Balrogs dissappear from the world at the end of the First Age after Morgoth's defeat in War of Wrath, hiding themselves near the roots of the Earth. The one single Balrog we ever hear about again is then awaken in Khazad-Dum in 1980 of the Third Age (missing the entire Second Age and pretty much 2/3 of the Third Age; in total almost 5 500 years). ...a bait for mindlessly claping seals :\
They didn't even push creativity much with their design, its just the Peter Jackson version copy pasted to this show. I don't think that design was bad, but they could have made a new one at least that is more accurate
For whichever panelist said the Elves are supposed to look feminine: "Long afterwards my father would write, in a wrathful comment on a ‘pretty’ or ‘ladylike’ pictorial rendering of Legolas: He was tall as a young tree, lithe, immensely strong, able swiftly to draw a great war-bow and shoot down a Nazgûl, endowed with the tremendous vitality of Elvish bodies, so hard and resistant to hurt that he went only in light shoes over rock or through snow, the most tireless of all the Fellowship." BoLT 2
The amount of lore mistakes is just astounding. It’s not even just lore mistakes, it’s literally opposite to the lore! Sauron taking a human form is just impossible. He absolutely hated and looked down upon them. At least with the Elves, while he loathed them, he still had, albeit reluctantly, a certain amount of respect. He’d never take a human form! They are making it look like Galadriel, the well protected princess, was anywhere near battles and war. Absolute delusions! And no Celeborn! How would Celebrian be born, so Arwen could exist? Like what?! And apparently Celebrimbor didn’t come up with the three rings on his own. What in Arda?!
It seems now that Galadriel is Gandalf, Aragorn, Gimli, Boramir and Legolas and Frodo all in one woman and better than all combined, shes so amazing. Its laughable, but even more so is that the Law sites are shilling for this rubbish and not tearing it apart. Seems a few trips to a castle bought them all just like the one ring in the book.
Well if that person is Sauron that is not men form. It looks more elf. He did transform himself into an Elf called Annatar to convince the Elves. He only started to hate men cause of Númenor. They helped the elves defeat him.
The balrog design they used in Peter Jackson's fellowship adaptation was designed by John Howe, he had used it before in his book illustrations. Since he worlked on this disaster and it's his design they where able to use it i guess. Member Berrie indeed! Yeah right, they don't want to connect to Jackson's Trilogy. This show is so unfaithfull and they know it, so much so that they'll do anything to trick you in to watching it. They are lesser men trying to stand on the works of better men. Jackson showed respect, even in the more inaccurate Hobbit movies. At least the Hobbit movies felt like Middle Earth, this really doesn't. Come september, i'll be reading the silmarillion. This show doesn't deserve watching
I've just bought another lovely edition of LOTR that I'll be reading when this comes out, and The Silmarillion too. I hope to turn my head away and try to forget about this whole mess/abomination. Pretend its not real.
@@Hero_Of_Old some comfort: this too shall pass. In 20 years, people will still read and love the books. In 20 years, people will still watch and love Peter Jackson's Trilogy. In 20 years, nobody will Remember this show....
@@SGABlencathra yeah, Akallabeth is great, so many good pieces of Tolkien dialogue that we know will never be used in any adaptation: " And Amandil, becoming aware of the purposes of the King, was dismayed and filled with a great dread, for he knew that Men could not vanquish the Valar in war, and that ruin must come upon the world, if this war were not stayed. Therefore he called his son, Elendil, and he said to him: 'The days are dark, and there is no hope for Men, for the Faithful are few. Therefore I am minded to try that counsel which our forefather Eärendil took of old, to sail into the West, be there ban or no, and to speak to the Valar, even to Manwë himself, if may be, and beseech his aid ere all is lost.' 'Would you then betray the King?' said Elendil. 'For you know well the charge that they make against us, that we are traitors and spies, and that until this day it has been false.' 'If I thought that Manwë needed such a messenger,' said Amandil, I would betray the King. For there is but one loyalty from which no man can be absolved in heart for any cause. But it is for mercy upon Men and their deliverance from Sauron the Deceiver that I would plead, since some at least have remained faithful. And as for the Ban, I will suffer in myself the penalty, lest all my people should become guilty.' 'But what think you, my father, is like to befall those of your house whom you leave behind, when your deed becomes known?' 'It must not become known,' said Amandil. 'I will prepare my going in secret, and I will set sail into the east, whither daily the ships depart from our havens; and thereafter, as wind and chance may allow, I will go about, through south or north, back into the west, and seek what I may find. But for you and your folk, my son, I counsel that you should prepare yourselves other ships, and put aboard all such things as your hearts cannot bear to part with; and when the ships are ready, you should lie in the haven of Rómenna, and give out among men that you purpose, when you see your time, to follow me into the east. Amandil is no longer so dear to our kinsman upon the throne that he will grieve over much, if we seek to depart, for a season or for good. But let it not be seen that you intend to take many men, or he will be troubled, because of the war that he now plots, for which he will need all the force that he may gather. Seek out the Faithful that are known still to be true, and let them join you in secret, if they are willing to go with you, and share in your design.' 'And what shall that design be?' said Elendil. 'To meddle not in the war, and to watch,' answered Amandil. 'Until I return I can say no more. But it is most like that you shall fly from the Land of the Star with no star to guide you; for that land is defiled. Then you shall lose all that you have loved, foretasting death in life, seeking a land of exile elsewhere. But east or west the Valar alone can say.' Then Amandil said farewell to all his household, as one that is about to die. 'For,' said he, 'it may well prove that you will see me never again; and that I shall show you no such sign as Eärendil showed long ago. But hold you ever in readiness, for the end of the world that we have known is now at hand.'" THAT would have been such a great and poignant moment in any visual adaptation! Funny thing is that Amandil as a character is mentioned in Lotr appendices, but of course so far there are no news of him ever appearing (heh I guess we must feel 'lucky' that his son Elendil will appear at all,...but they might butcher him completely or portray him negatively!) I must say that I would prefer any Tolkien text over the Amazon fanfiction! :) Even the unfinished Tal-Elmar story from HoME (this one deals with 'diversity' way better hehe, tale from the point of view of the 'wildmen' native tribes of Middle-earth witnessing Numenorean colonialism) or the numenorean chapters from The Lost Road, this was a sort of early draft narrative set in Numenor focused again on Elendil and his son Isildur(or as in that text he was called Herendil). Hell I'd sooner take a Mainer's Wife adaptation, the story of Aldarion and Erendis maybe has less action (though if the exploratory voyages of Aldarion would be shown there would be adventure) and is more like family drama set in Numenor with some political overtones, but it would be much better written!
Eh, the Hobbit movies are pretty disrespectful. Female warrior elf, legolas showing up, a love triangle between a dwarf and two elves, the entire CGI schlockfest that is the Smaug fight and the Battle of the 5 Armies, the lake town women fighting and more nonsense.
I already made a deal with my brother - when the show hits the air, we are having LotR extended edition marathon - renting a projector, firing up the sound system, getting a few cases of beer and calling friends over. We are fighting this crap with the good stuff! Watched it probably close to 100 times... yet I can always watch it one more time. And I say that after every watching...
@@TheZapan99 I don’t know I can’t see the future so haven’t seen the actual series and I’m not a monkey who cries over a couple of trailers. I have a doubt tho so this channel just throws hate at every single material of any franchise? i never saw a video discussing one postive thing its all crying and hating like a bunch of edgy teenagers. Lame and sad but also funny
Apparently Lenny Henry disappearing from uk tv after being a major British icon isnt his fault "he was held back". Sounds like the excuse of most left wingers, which strangely he now apparently is. No surprise.
Still infuriates me that he's still referred to as a "comedian". Never been funny. Awful television shows, and even worse stand up. I would've struggled to watch The Rings of Power anyway, but seeing him in it was just the nudge I needed to not watch any of this shite.
@@bring-out Yeah, he was happy appealing to the 'white working class' that he has utter disdain for now and blames for all his 'suffering'. He is a twat of the highest order!
Celeborn was with Galadriel throughout the Third Age as well, and stayed in Lothlorien (for another 50 or 100 years) after Galadriel went back across the sea to Valinor at the end of The Return of the King. And they were married in the First Age, after they met in Beleriand during the war against Morgoth. So now I guess he's disappeared/dead, because you can't have your strong female character love a man?
I think Galadriel is single, so she can mingle. Amazon hired an intimacy coach for a reason. Who will she have a fling with? Could be anyone, really. Celebrimbor, Annatar/Sauron, Isildur, maybe Tom Bombadil when he's written into the story to boost ratings!
And he and Galadriel had already noped out of Beleriand a good century before the final battles of the first age... meaning all this shit she's expositing she didn't actually see....
Sauron never took on the form of a human, he wouldn't lower himself to that.. but then you'd have to have read Tolkiens work to know that, which no one at Amazon apparently has...
During the second age, he became Annatar 'the giver of gifts' and he befriended the Elf smiths of Eregion, including Celebrimbor and counselled them in arts and magic. Not all the Elves trusted him, particularly Lady Galadriel, Elrond, and Gil-galad. It is not specified if the shape he took was elf or man just described as fair of face Whether they will stay true to this lore though is highly unlikely
While I am glad that a segment of the people involved were able to work and put food on their table and pay their bills working on this POS, my honest wish is that this would fail miserably in so many other ways and ruin the careers of all of the people who have championed it whether as actors or producers or writers or directors and that it would completely blow up in Jeff Bezos' face and force him to eat a piece of humble pie. This show has shown continually that it is nothing but a blatant, tokenized, moderized perversion of a world that was created by an author whose intellect and imagination completely blows away anyone that is working on this show. The love and commitment that Tolkien poured into building Middle-Earth is being blackened and destroyed every second that this goes on. I don't care if I'm called a phobe or an ist or whatever. There are no black elves or dwarves. Female dwarves have beards. Galadriel was married to Celeborn and she didn't do any of this stuff they have her involved in. Tar-Miriel is has been cast as a tokenized black woman to appease diversity checkboxes. This Harfoot/Hobbit nonsense is just filler, as are half the made up characters on the show, it seems. There were no wizards in the 2nd age. SAURON made the One Ring. The Ages of the Lamps and the Trees and the First and Second Ages did not involve any storytelling at all with hobbits or their ancestors. There was no need for time compression. This is all just junk and trash and I honestly don't care if there is never another attempt in my lifetime to adapt any Tolkien material to the screen at all. We now see that if Hollywood/Media Conglomerates/Corporations are involved - they only care about pandering to a small, vocal minority of people whoare perverted in mind, body and soul, and live and die by what goes on in Twitterverse. Everyone else, especially those who built the foundation of the fanbase through the $$$$$$ that they spent and made it possible at all for it to be popular enough as an option for development, are apparently just condemned to the pits of hell for caring about the legacy of its creator. Keep it up Gary!
Cheer up :) There are enough good ppl that think as you do, and most importantly: the BOOKS ARE ON THE SHELF! THEY WONT VANISH THEY WONT GET REWRITTEN. Just boycott this shit. Dont watch - even out of spite!
Wasn't Morgoth still around when the great trees were? It seems strange to me that they show Sauron instead of him, while he will sure be mentioned in the series if the trees are as well. Why not show him instead of Sauron?
Mate you are spot on and I agree wholeheartedly, evil cannot create it can only destroy but we must stand firm against this garbage. As a fellow fan I salute you and I'm proud that so many people are calling out this trash for what it is. A festering abomination and a perversion of Tolkien's work.
That is the correct & prudent thing to think imo bc as we've seen time and again, companies have an agenda and it doesn't look like it's going to stop anytime soon. I'd rather not see any films, shows or read anymore books of my favorite franchises ever again if they're just going to be used to shill political agendas. Sometimes it's best to let something fade away so there can perhaps be a better era to brings these out again.
@@conebear9291 That would be dope. Honestly, at this point, I'd rather have Japan, Korea or even China remake lotr or touch anything Tolkien than any country in western civilization. The actors themselves said the purpose that show exists is primarily to change Tolkien's work, to modernize it to current political trends. As we all know Tolkien never wanted his works changed.
"Based on the works of J.R.R. Tolkien", in the same way the dump I took this morning was "based" on last night's dinner. They should set the background music to Rape Me by Nirvana...
Haha so true, it's bad casting like casting Rowan Atkinson, Ricky Gervais or Simon Pegg in a full-on serious role. You wouldn't be able to take it seriously.
@@annalisam9999 As were the tanned elf who has a "forbidden love" affair with a human; the tanned dwarven princess(!); or the tanned Numenorian queen. Maybe Sauron created a plague that eliminated all the tanned beings from the Second Age, which is why we didn't see them in PJ's movies!
@@mixelplik *Well you had "tanned" Numenoreans during the First Age when the Atani mated with the Easterlings -- presumably why those of house Bor were swarthy and olive-esque in tone -- similar to when the Numenoreans of Elros mated with the women of Harad post-Drowning ~*
When Sauron said “I am all the white cis male patriarchy!” and then Galadriel said “and I am all the peoples of color and the LGBTQ community!”…. Mad chills bro. Such a classic. Will remember it forever.
Amazon really has stuck their fingers up at Tolkien who expressly detested adaptations and denied changes to his works. It's the modern-day equivalent of the Louvre getting in a street tagger to improve on Da Vinci's Mona Lisa!!.....its fffing sacrilege. I just can't wait for "The Rings of Misandry...sorry Power"
It amazes me, with all that money they have put into this, and they go off Tolkien`s lore. My only hope from this, is that the younger generation will pick up Tolkien`s work, and read his amazing lore. If some of the rumors are true about this show, I`m gonna be so pissed. Until then, I will wait and see myself what they have done.
Heh rings of misandry,.....this reminds me of the misandrist attitude of Erendis in the story The Mariner's Wife: "Her mother had spoken unceasingly against men, and indeed a remarkable example of Erendis' teaching in this respect is preserved: Men in Númenor are half-Elves (said Erendis), especially the high men; they are neither the one nor the other. The long life that they were granted deceives them, and they dally in the world, children in mind, until age finds them - and then many only forsake play out of doors for play in their houses. They turn their play into great matters and great matters into play. They would be craftsmen and loremasters and heroes all at once; and women to them are but fires on the hearth - for others to tend, until they are tired of play in the evening. All things were made for their service: hills are for quarries, river to furnish water or to turn wheels, trees for boards, women for their body's need, or if fair to adorn their table and hearth; and children to be teased when nothing else is to do - but they would as soon play with their hounds' whelps. To all they are gracious and kind, merry as larks in the morning (if the sun shines); for they are never wrathful if they can avoid it. Men should be gay, they hold, generous as the rich, giving away what they do not need. Anger they show only when they become aware, suddenly, that there are other wills in the world beside their own. Then they will be as ruthless as the seawind if anything dare to withstand them. Thus it is, Ancalimë, and we cannot alter it. For men fashioned Númenor: men, those heroes of old that they sing of - of their women we hear less, save that they wept when their men were slain. Númenor was to be a rest after war. But if they weary of rest and the plays of peace, soon they will go back to their great play, manslaying and war. Thus it is; and we are set here among them. But we need not assent. If we love Númenor also, let us enjoy it before they ruin it. We also are daughters of the great, and we have wills and courage of our own. Therefore do not bend, Ancalimë. Once bend a little, and they will bend you further until you are bowed down. Sink your roots into the rock, and face the wind, though it blow away all your leaves." One one hand bold words of 'emancypation' on the other they are bitter and colored with her resentment towards men due to her unhappy marriage :).
Because he is. Times are tough, he got downsized by CEO Iluvatar for not conforming to company culture, and not a lot of jobs are looking to hire a fallen Maiar with his qualifications.
They literally had the perfect template for what elves look like from the movies and I'd argue that the elves from The Witcher look more appropriate than in this show.
Lenny Henry starred in his own Hollywood movie back in 1991 called True Identity, in which he spends most of it in full prosthetic whiteface as he poses as an Italian American mobster. Held back indeed.
Yeah that knighthood must be really weighing him down. Really fucked up Ian Holm's, Ian McKellen's, Patrick Stewart's and Anthony Hopkins's careers as well, eh?
I think we as fans should collectively have a mass law suit against Amazon for destroying the integrity of Tolkien's writings. Once we do this on a consistent level against despoilers of franchises they won't attempt to destroy our franchises for gaslighting.
unfortunately one actually has to have some degree of legal ownership to be able to sue for something like that If you wanna keep this from happening again, though, go after Amazon's pride, since this is all about Bezos' ego. They were never going to make any money off this show, streaming just isn't profitable enough and amazon prime video is an afterthought to most amazon prime users, so it's not like this show is going to make a difference one way or another. The show only exists because Bezos wants the same attention Game of Throne had in season 1 (which is why this looks like a cheap GoT immitation). You wanna make it hurt? mock it relentlessly. It's already getting to Amazon, which is why the marketing has gotten so frankly childish and defensive.
Alejandro, lee otra vez lo que has puesto y luego mírate al espejo. Y busca ayuda ya. Madre del amor hermoso como estáis de la cabecita con los complots judeomasonicos que intentan destrozar todo lo que amas.
Durin's Bane awoke in the third age. It happened after the fall of Gundabad, even after the fall of Angmar. Khazad Dum should be doing great right until roughly mid third age. Whatever balrog that was shown simply cannot be Durin's Bane
Yeah but also the Wizards, the Istari are also supposed to arrive in the Third Age and on the ship from the West, already in their physical form and yet...in this show we'll get a meteor man that will be some sort of Wizard :). The palantiri also were gifts to the House of Elendil and yet Tar-Miriel has one, the lore breakings in the show will be numerous :). Not to mention the entire compressed timeline and all the fanfictiony elements that will feel disjointed and not fitting into the actual Tolkien lore.
Of course it can. Do you really think there is *any* travesty or malformation of the lore these people wont stoop to? It can be durins bane toing a tap dance and revealing itself to be a lesbian girl balrog. come to avenge itself on the dwarves for being so full of toxic masculinity that they even make their women look like men! Really im joking but wouldnt really be surprised if they do some hateful stuff like that to piss off the real tolkien fans....
@@Kira-zy2ro well, even considering the whole mess they brought on themselves, somehow I still subconsciously try to be a devil's advocate and try to find a reason out there (tf am I doing?).
@@thedarkone9552 fair enough, we all have our coping mechanisms to deal with the PTSD this thing is giving us. I wholly understand you grasping at straws to at least try and find *some* semblance of lore consistency in this shipwreck. ☺
I know right? Thankfully there's no such thing as racism anymore and this video is just a perfectly moderate 'non-racist' attack on the show.. which no one has actually seen yet..
@@lotsofspots It'll have been her butter knife that she shanked Morgoth in the eye with while looking at the camera and screaming "It's morbin time!" or something. God fuck, what a train wreck this all is.
Lenny Henry was a comedian from the 80’s to 90’s. He was controversial for the time but a comedian in the pack with Jim Davies and Roy Chubby Brown. Then he continued to do comedy for a charity show called ‘Comic Relief’ as a presenter and again he was a comedian. But that comedy scene he was a part of died out during the 2000’s so he managed to change gear. Then he sort of disappeared in the 2010’s and only did serious charity ads in black and white. So, strange to see him here. I think he had some film comedy acting roles. He may be trying to start a come-back like James Cordon (a failed “Hi I’m fat UK comedian who got big by accident in ‘Gavin and Stacey’ then saw an opening in the US market) but who knows.
As someone who read and loved the Lord of the Rings and the lore he wrote, I had criticisms of even the excellent LOTR trilogy that Jackson created, though I love those movies so much and they did a great job portraying Middle Earth and the story. So for me this abomination of Amazon is something I know I will never be able to enjoy because not only of it Progressive BS but also that it does not keep with actually story lore. This is not made for Tolkien fans, the people who are making and funding this are on a power trip and giving everyone a big middle finger and saying you are powerless to stop us from destroying what you love for our own ambitions.
So what we do, is ALL of us stand abreast and together, in a mighty battle line, and instead of drawing our swords in salute, we all, in unison, extend right hand high, with middle finger pointing to the star of Elbereth, and give them the Amazon-Tolkien welcome
@@scottperry7311 Sorry I put that so poorly. I meant the tip of the finger pointing toward the night star, but the bird DEFIANTLY facing Mord.. (I mean Amazon HQ).
Why did they kill off Celeborn? How are the stupid writers of this show going to explain Celeborn being alive and well in the third age? This show makes no sense!
When elves “die” they just go back to Valinor to chill out in the halls of Mandos for a while before they get their body back. But Celeborn never dies in lore, so the show is still dumb.
So they killed Celeborn, I see no evidence of their daughter who was supposed to be married to Elrond. Does that mean they have effectively erased Elrond's whole family? Including Arwen who is kind of important later on.
Yeah this is one of the most bizzare decisions to not include Celeborn and Celebrian in this show!! I mean hell Celebrian was born in Second Age, she would be a good choice for a irresponsible youngster instead of Galadriel :). Celeborn could have time to shine in this show! He is described as Celeborn the Wise: " For the Lord of the Galadhrim is accounted the wisest of the elves of Middle-earth, and a giver of gifts beyond the power of kings....'." Yet already he was disrespected in the hobbit films when he was erased from the White Council and now this?! Celebrian also met Elrond in later period of Second Age so their love begun in that time: "She committed Lórinand to Amroth, and passing again through Moria with Celebrían she came to Imladris, seeking Celeborn. There (it seems) she found him, and there they dwelt together for a long time; and it was then that Elrond first saw Celebrían, and loved her, though he said nothing of it. It was while Galadriel was in Imladris that the Council referred to above was held. But at some later time [there is no indication of the date] Galadriel and Celeborn together with Celebrían departed from Imladris and went to the little-inhabited lands between the mouth of the Gwathló and Ethir Anduin." Celebrian could have been the more likely female character to focus on a bit to show her inexperience and attitude, also her arch could be sort of reflecting on Eowyn's, have her in a period of interest with arms and then turn to healing, (Celebrian seems to have association with it as she received a magical artifact Elessar the Elfstone with healing powers): "And it is said that more subtle and clear was the green gem that he made than that of Enerdhil, but yet its light had less power. For whereas that of Enerdhil was lit by the Sun in its youth, already many years had passed ere Celebrimbor began his work, and nowhere in Middle-earth was the light as clear as it had been, for though Morgoth had been thrust out into the Void and could not enter again, his far shadow lay upon it. Radiant nonetheless was the Elessar of Celebrimbor; and he set it within a great brooch of silver in the likeness of an eagle rising upon outspread wings." Wielding the Elessar all things grew fair about Galadriel, until the coming of the Shadow to the Forest. But afterwards when Nenya, chief of the Three," was sent to her by Celebrimbor, she needed it (as she thought) no more, and she gave it to Celebrían her daughter, and so it came to Arwen and to Aragorn who was called Elessar."
Yes indeed. No Celeborn...so no Celebrian...so no Arwen...so no marriage to Aragorn...so Aragorn has no reason to live in Rivendell....so Aragorn probably gets killed by Sauron's servants...and so does Frodo and company as now they have no guide from Bree to Rivendell.... and the Nazgul get their hands on the ring in LoTR and middle earth is f**ked
When they say “Based of the Works of Tolkien” I’m stuck imagining a hobo finding some of Tolkiens balled up papers that were tossed in the trash, and later found it’s way to the dump.
Gotta love when a megacorporation "franchises" Tolkien for "content", a wholly new set of stories that scrubs what Tolkien ACTUALLY wrote, even calling it The Lord of the Rings only making their title a sub-title: his work becoming a palimpsest to much more digestible television to mainstream audiences, with Amazon ROP iconography dominating the cultural consciousness and all spaces and spheres of Tolkien discussion and licensed as merchandise everywhere. It's inappropriate. A co-opting, a hijacking, an appropriation.
This is me being a pedantic Tolkien loser: People in this stream kept saying the Dagor Bragollach is the battle that sank Beleriand. No, the battle that did that (and ended the First Age) was the War of Wrath, where Morgoth was defeated permanently.
@@mala6238 they've been doing this for years I used to be one of you They just want you guys angry for clicks. These losers would lose all relevance the moment people calm down and realize they're full of shit
I shook my head at the numerous mistakes and inconsistencies the writers made with ROP. But when I found out they killed off Galadriel's husband, Celeborn, I threw in the towel. I refuse to watch a second of this shit show.
This story is based on a fart that a guy did while he was in the same room as another guy that was using a pen that he got from Tolkien. Also some characters share names with some characters created by Tolkien but just by coincidence.
But they misunderstood and turned it into a shart, and when called on it, they immediately lied and claimed it was deliberate from the beginning, done for "diversity" and to make it "more relatable". Then they bought a Vanity Fair article to "prove" and support that lie. Lol.
I guess Galadriel was bullied as a child by the sons of Feanor? All the men have boob armor but Galadriel - the only female doesn't. Yeah, the Elves aren't gonna think it's weird that a man has knowledge of ring lore that is greater than that of Dwarves and Elves combined. No male carries any authority except for the black hobbit. Are Galadriel and Tar-Miriel gonna.....you know.....get it on?
so this channel just throws hate at every single material of any franchise? i never saw a video discussing one postive thing its all crying and hating like a bunch of edgy teenagers. Lame and sad but also funny
Gary: Oooooh, it’s the forbidden love right here. Chrissie: Why, is one in Slytherin and one in Hufflepuff? Fr, the Chrissie lady was a joy to watch 😂🤣
If Celeborn is dead, are they going for a "oh he comes back" situation like Glorfindel? I thought his situation was unique? Oh well, who am I kidding. They probably put less thought into it than I did.
Most likely, but considering they're trying to ship Galadriel and Sauron this season, but also to make her an independent woman, are you really that surprised of Celeborn being dead? or presumed dead?
4:34 I remember watching Troy in the theatre with my Latin class as it came out. in the end it said, "Inspired by Homer's Iliad", and I thought, "Inspired at best."
Third Age 1980 (abbreviated to T.A. 1980) is the 1980th year of the Sun of the Third Age of Middle-earth. Third Age 1980 was also known as S.R. 380 in Shire-reckoning. Notable events in this year include: The Witch-king comes to Mordor and there gathers the Nazgûl. *****A Balrog appears in Moria, and slays King Durin VI.**** Náin I, son of Durin VI, becomes the King of Durin's Folk. Looks like they are pulling back the awakening of the Durin's Bane by at least two millennia, kek.
As I've already stated multiple times: I'm VERY grateful that you guys will suffer through this, so we don't have to...but any other person who considers him- / herself a true Tolkien - Fan - DO NOT WATCH THIS SHOW!!! Don't let them sell this as a "success" just because everybody wants to see the traincrash actually happen...PLEASE, stand by the Professor...✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻
Based... why you have the best material that is also loved with built in fans of all ages. Sounds lazy not creatively better... Peter bent over backwards to know the material and honestly tried to make Tolkien proud...
My Facebook feed is no longer showing me rings of power posts because I kept commenting on their shit. Earlier today I couldn’t go 3-4 posts without finding one to comment on. Now they’ve been removed can’t find a single one. Coincidence?
i had said on a video by George the Giant Slayer that It would honestly not surprise me in the least if they have Durin III or IV release Durin’s Bane at some point in the series instead of it being Durin VI and now it looks like they are going to do that.
Lenny Henry started as a kids tv presenter and through the 80's/90's he had his own sketch shows etc. Also starred in a few films, one in which he plays a white man. He was married to Dawn French and presented Comic Relief for the BBC year after year, he has recently won awards for stage performances. Not a bad career for someone who constantly claims the black community don't have access to equal opportunities. Race is the only thing he talks about and it's fucking boring... 😮💨
I'm an American and don't know his work, but I saw a doc once about the great British comics, and I'm pretty sure Henry is the one I thought of as "the boring one", lol.
@@marychocolatefairy Generally, most Brits consider him a national treasure, as he's been around forever. Recently, he's made a reputation of race-baiting, which seems to be a priority when working for the BBC. Actually, I think he's been knighted too? So, his career is basically proof that minorities can be just as successful and he's a big fat hypocrite!
Guys...There is a shit storm on the horizon......and It's gonna just make us love the LOTR movies more and maybe even get us to look back positively at the hobbit trilogy and say.....I have to really bindge watch the Hobbit and LOTR to get the memory of that dumpster fire out of my mind.
LOL exactly my thoughts. Rings Of Power will be like the Star Wars sequels. It will be so awful, that everyone will be praising Peter Jackson's Hobbit trilogy, just like the Star Wars prequels.
Man! I hope to hell that really is sauron lol! He looks like a pissed off 16 year old kid that just got his lunch money ganked by the local bully 😆 😆 I wonder what it feels like to set 1 billion on fire lmao!!! Hollywood is a joke
The balrog aka durins bane came in the middle of the third age not in the second age so this balrog will probably from a first age battle scene. And Anatar the lord of gifts was disguised as a Vanyar elf who are closest to the valar and eru. They always stayed within valinor being the valar highest elf servants and that is why Sauron or Anatar chose to look like one of them because all elfs know the integrity of their kind.
Small correction (if I may): "Half the world sank into the Ocean", not because of the Dagor Bragollach, but over 100 years later, because of the War of Wrath. Why make Tar-Miriel a warror ? Ar-Pharazôn is explicitly described as one; she, is not. This thing sounds like a train-wreck.
@@HolyMith That is crazy. There is no basis for that idea. If people are going to invent stuff that is not in the legendarium, they ought at least to grow it from what is in the legendarium. Otherwise they are inventing a fan-fic.
Sauron isn't evil enough, so Galadriel steps up to be the evil but only because she's forced to and is redeemed in the end by not killing Luke Skywalker. I believe I have made the SW's crossover.
There are 20 rings, 16 were made by Sauron and Celebrimbor, 3 were made by Celebrimbor alone, Vilya, Nenya & Narya, without the guidance and influence of Anatar so they were uncorrupted. And the last was forged by the Dark Lord himself to control all others, The One Ring of Power.
The thing that sticks in my craw the most is having a female/PoC centric show, written by two white dudes. You really want to empower people? Maybe hire writers and showrunners that wont be speaking for groups they aren't a part of and likely have no meaningful investment in. I say this as a white dude myself, we should be sticking more in our lane and letting other people write the stories that are actually relevant to them.
It's weird to place an entire 5 season series in a time period sandwiched in by far more interesting time periods that Tolkien was more into. His published works in his lifetime were at the end of the Third Age with The Hobbit and LOTR but the writings he was constantly focusing on and reworking were the tales of the First Age. The Second Age was mainly just one long summary to get from the First Age to the LOTR. With the exception of a few unfinished stories he didn't put a lot of effort into fleshing out the Second Age. The closest he came to a novel or novella of the Second Age was the Akallabeth - the Fall of Numenor. There you had an interesting tale of men who were given great gifts but wanted the one thing denied to them - immortality in the physical world. This denial slowly ate at them turning them down a dark path of fear and resentment long before Sauron arrived and he merely hastened their downfall by appealing to their pride and resentment. The Rings including the One Ring have little to do with the story as Sauron really just nudged them a little quicker down that path. This would have made for a far better series with some fleshing out (not 5 seasons though) and it ties in nicely with the LOTR dealing with the ancestors of Aragorn. The elements of the drama are already there - the division between the Elf-friends and the King's Men and with the Valar so non-intervening the doubt of the people (this would probably be too anti-atheist for some) Instead it seems they are making Galadriel a character who was a side character in all of the lore the main character and presumably Tar-Miriel as a major character as well with little mention of Elendil ie ancestor of Aragorn, father of Isildur, and half the tag-team that takes down Sauron. You'd think Elrond the product of elf, man, and Maiar whose daughter eventually marries Aragorn would be more prominent. Hell, Elrond practically IS Middle Earth! He's descended from the 3 Houses of Men, the Sindar and the Noldor elves, plus his great-great grandmother was a Maiar. Galadriel as only being a Noldor who had seen the light of the Two Trees should be more in a position of wisdom having seen things most people by the Second Age have not. Even in the Second Age, Galadriel should be like she was in the Third Age - someone from a much earlier time with an ethereal quality. Elrond with his complex heritage and relatively youthful age for elves would be a far more dramatic figure facing off against a foe who was an adversary to his great-grandparents (Beren and Luthien). And he has to watch in sorrow the descendants of his brother turn to Sauron which would be far more distressing for him then it would be for Galadriel given that she has no personal connection with the Numenoreans. The more you think about it the more you (should) realize the missed opportunity in making Elrond the protagonist who chose to be an elf over human, has to watch many of his mortal friends including his brother die, face off against the ancient foe of his ancestors, and eventually deciding on a path of war or wisdom. Instead it looks like we'll get a revenge quest by Galadriel over the death of a brother that didn't exist in the original source material - yay?
I'm completely over this. Right now the most disappointing Lord of the Rings I've heard is that all references to Gandalf have been scrubbed from datamined voice lines in Multiversus after the most recent update. At best this means that they are just delaying adding him to the game for awhile, at worst this means that they are scrapping their plans to add him to the game completely.
Technically the only reason Sauron is stronger than the wizards is because the wizards were sent nerfed, whereas Sauron didn't enter the realm of man with any permission. Which is also why killing him will force him to face judgement for his disobedience.
All shiny with colours so that people tune in. No story, lots of hate towards Tolkien and the GoT that Bezos wanted with gore and porn down the road. This fan they cannot cheat.
Why dedicate your entire life to be a “scholar” on a subject, just to completely disregard you own studies and the path YOU CHOSE to cowtail to Amazon who knows less than a casual reader.
Sir Lenworth George Henry CBE. Yeah, his career was held back sooooo much. A very very rich black actor actually very well liked for his work in acting (in the UK anyway). Just another actor leaping onto the woke bandwagon to become even more rich while a lot of people (of all colours) in the UK are struggling to put food on the table for their family. Sorry just pissing me off.
I thought journalists whole job these days was to get it wrong, or have I just been watching entertainment wrong? Usually if they praise I stay away, if they bash , I buy all that products merchandise lmao.
I think this is a good indication of why the recent Dune movie was so well received. Because they stuck as close as possible to the book and didn’t try and rewrite the narrative or characters significantly. In other words, they were respectful of Herbert.
how does AZ know so much? has he seen some special pre-screening or were there any leaks or something? it's not the first time he tells something about the show like he has read the script, but i don't remember if it was ever explained where did he get those informations from, correct me if i'm wrong.
If you want to understand the scale of "Fantasy on Steroids" that the First Age was on, just remember - Ancalagon the Black used Mount Everest-style mountains as foot rests - one for each foot. Ungoliant terrified _Morgoth._
That scene where warrior Galadriel is warming her hands by the used tampon filled dumpster fire, looks over to Fat Bastard and says, "indeed, everyone does like their own brand." Had me wafting for days.
After years of LotR lore youtube channels based themselves on accuracy of the lore,all of a sudden they totally shilled out,thats what bugs me the most how people can sell out their integrity
Many of them had no integrity to sell anyway and just saw an opportunity to virtue signal like crazy and profit from it as well.
Yea, many of them suddenly don't care about accuracy or respect for Tolkien. Perhaps they never did, only when it suited their content creation but do they really have to sell out to succeed on TH-cam? they can easily criticize the show and gain as many viewers if not much more.
-nerd- shill of the rings comes to mind
There are still plenty of TH-camrs like Tolkien Untangled who didn’t sell out though
Amazon offered more money to them, probably a year ago, and they are contractually obligated to shill tf out of it or face life ruination lawsuits.
Sadly, even the one cool-looking thing in this God-forsaken show, the Balrog, is completely out of place lore-wise.
All remaining Balrogs dissappear from the world at the end of the First Age after Morgoth's defeat in War of Wrath, hiding themselves near the roots of the Earth. The one single Balrog we ever hear about again is then awaken in Khazad-Dum in 1980 of the Third Age (missing the entire Second Age and pretty much 2/3 of the Third Age; in total almost 5 500 years).
...a bait for mindlessly claping seals :\
The show has a prologue showing stuff from the first age, the balrog in the trailer is most likely from a scene from the first age.
Honestly, I have a feeling none of the Amazon scriptwriters or actors have even touched a book about LOTR 🤦♀️
They didn't even push creativity much with their design, its just the Peter Jackson version copy pasted to this show. I don't think that design was bad, but they could have made a new one at least that is more accurate
@@BloodyMidNightSun They're literate??? News to me!
They apparently show Morgoth destroying the trees and shit so I wouldn't be shocked if this is from first age. Maybe in morgoths strong hold.
For whichever panelist said the Elves are supposed to look feminine:
"Long afterwards my father would write, in a wrathful comment on a ‘pretty’ or ‘ladylike’ pictorial rendering of Legolas:
He was tall as a young tree, lithe, immensely strong, able swiftly to draw a great war-bow and shoot down a Nazgûl, endowed with the tremendous vitality of Elvish bodies, so hard and resistant to hurt that he went only in light shoes over rock or through snow, the most tireless of all the Fellowship."
BoLT 2
"Together we can survive this."
Doesn't sound anything llike Tolkien's prose. Sounds like generic Hollywood script writing.
I loved the bit where Sauron shouts ''yippee ki yay m-fer'' and throws Alan Rickman off Barad-dûr
LOL!
My favourite part is when Sauron shouts, "It's morbin' time!", and then he morbs all over everyone.
The amount of lore mistakes is just astounding. It’s not even just lore mistakes, it’s literally opposite to the lore! Sauron taking a human form is just impossible. He absolutely hated and looked down upon them. At least with the Elves, while he loathed them, he still had, albeit reluctantly, a certain amount of respect. He’d never take a human form!
They are making it look like Galadriel, the well protected princess, was anywhere near battles and war. Absolute delusions! And no Celeborn! How would Celebrian be born, so Arwen could exist? Like what?!
And apparently Celebrimbor didn’t come up with the three rings on his own. What in Arda?!
It seems now that Galadriel is Gandalf, Aragorn, Gimli, Boramir and Legolas and Frodo all in one woman and better than all combined, shes so amazing. Its laughable, but even more so is that the Law sites are shilling for this rubbish and not tearing it apart. Seems a few trips to a castle bought them all just like the one ring in the book.
@@cyberleaderandy1
Some will take the ticket for copper pennies rather than pieces of silver.
@@cyberleaderandy1 You can't have a modern show/movie without a Mary Sue!
Well if that person is Sauron that is not men form. It looks more elf. He did transform himself into an Elf called Annatar to convince the Elves. He only started to hate men cause of Númenor. They helped the elves defeat him.
@@RealDovamo ain’t that the truth? 🥴
The balrog design they used in Peter Jackson's fellowship adaptation was designed by John Howe, he had used it before in his book illustrations. Since he worlked on this disaster and it's his design they where able to use it i guess. Member Berrie indeed! Yeah right, they don't want to connect to Jackson's Trilogy. This show is so unfaithfull and they know it, so much so that they'll do anything to trick you in to watching it. They are lesser men trying to stand on the works of better men. Jackson showed respect, even in the more inaccurate Hobbit movies. At least the Hobbit movies felt like Middle Earth, this really doesn't. Come september, i'll be reading the silmarillion. This show doesn't deserve watching
I've just bought another lovely edition of LOTR that I'll be reading when this comes out, and The Silmarillion too. I hope to turn my head away and try to forget about this whole mess/abomination. Pretend its not real.
@@Hero_Of_Old some comfort: this too shall pass. In 20 years, people will still read and love the books. In 20 years, people will still watch and love Peter Jackson's Trilogy. In 20 years, nobody will Remember this show....
I'm just reading Akallabêth. I need to cleanse my mind of the repulsive Amazon parody.
@@SGABlencathra yeah, Akallabeth is great, so many good pieces of Tolkien dialogue that we know will never be used in any adaptation:
" And Amandil, becoming aware of the purposes of the King, was dismayed and filled with a great dread, for he knew that Men could not vanquish the Valar in war, and that ruin must come upon the world, if this war were not stayed. Therefore he called his son, Elendil, and he said to him:
'The days are dark, and there is no hope for Men, for the Faithful are few. Therefore I am minded to try that counsel which our forefather Eärendil took of old, to sail into the West, be there ban or no, and to speak to the Valar, even to Manwë himself, if may be, and beseech his aid ere all is lost.'
'Would you then betray the King?' said Elendil. 'For you know well the charge that they make against us, that we are traitors and spies, and that until this day it has been false.'
'If I thought that Manwë needed such a messenger,' said Amandil, I would betray the King. For there is but one loyalty from which no man can be absolved in heart for any cause. But it is for mercy upon Men and their deliverance from Sauron the Deceiver that I would plead, since some at least have remained faithful. And as for the Ban, I will suffer in myself the penalty, lest all my people should become guilty.'
'But what think you, my father, is like to befall those of your house whom you leave behind, when your deed becomes known?'
'It must not become known,' said Amandil. 'I will prepare my going in secret, and I will set sail into the east, whither daily the ships depart from our havens; and thereafter, as wind and chance may allow, I will go about, through south or north, back into the west, and seek what I may find. But for you and your folk, my son, I counsel that you should prepare yourselves other ships, and put aboard all such things as your hearts cannot bear to part with; and when the ships are ready, you should lie in the haven of Rómenna, and give out among men that you purpose, when you see your time, to follow me into the east. Amandil is no longer so dear to our kinsman upon the throne that he will grieve over much, if we seek to depart, for a season or for good. But let it not be seen that you intend to take many men, or he will be troubled, because of the war that he now plots, for which he will need all the force that he may gather. Seek out the Faithful that are known still to be true, and let them join you in secret, if they are willing to go with you, and share in your design.'
'And what shall that design be?' said Elendil.
'To meddle not in the war, and to watch,' answered Amandil. 'Until I return I can say no more. But it is most like that you shall fly from the Land of the Star with no star to guide you; for that land is defiled. Then you shall lose all that you have loved, foretasting death in life, seeking a land of exile elsewhere. But east or west the Valar alone can say.'
Then Amandil said farewell to all his household, as one that is about to die. 'For,' said he, 'it may well prove that you will see me never again; and that I shall show you no such sign as Eärendil showed long ago. But hold you ever in readiness, for the end of the world that we have known is now at hand.'"
THAT would have been such a great and poignant moment in any visual adaptation! Funny thing is that Amandil as a character is mentioned in Lotr appendices, but of course so far there are no news of him ever appearing (heh I guess we must feel 'lucky' that his son Elendil will appear at all,...but they might butcher him completely or portray him negatively!)
I must say that I would prefer any Tolkien text over the Amazon fanfiction! :) Even the unfinished Tal-Elmar story from HoME (this one deals with 'diversity' way better hehe, tale from the point of view of the 'wildmen' native tribes of Middle-earth witnessing Numenorean colonialism) or the numenorean chapters from The Lost Road, this was a sort of early draft narrative set in Numenor focused again on Elendil and his son Isildur(or as in that text he was called Herendil).
Hell I'd sooner take a Mainer's Wife adaptation, the story of Aldarion and Erendis maybe has less action (though if the exploratory voyages of Aldarion would be shown there would be adventure) and is more like family drama set in Numenor with some political overtones, but it would be much better written!
Eh, the Hobbit movies are pretty disrespectful. Female warrior elf, legolas showing up, a love triangle between a dwarf and two elves, the entire CGI schlockfest that is the Smaug fight and the Battle of the 5 Armies, the lake town women fighting and more nonsense.
I won't watch one minute of this dumpster fire of a show, but I'll watch every legit TH-cam nerd shred and mock it. Thanks for keeping it real, Gary.
Same.
I'm looking forward to the videos mocking it than watching it
Ditto
I already made a deal with my brother - when the show hits the air, we are having LotR extended edition marathon - renting a projector, firing up the sound system, getting a few cases of beer and calling friends over. We are fighting this crap with the good stuff! Watched it probably close to 100 times... yet I can always watch it one more time. And I say that after every watching...
Amen to that~
Amen!
The awkward moment when Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor is more in line with Tolkien's work than your multibillion dollar TV show.
That game was awesome! Don't care if it's not official canon.
There's a Gollum game coming up, and I'm pretty sure it's going to fuck Amazon in the Eye That Never Sleeps.
@@TheZapan99 the gollum game looks pathetic in every possible aspect
@@tomasalarconchible9729 But do they actively betray the lore? Even a mediocre game is still leagues better than this.
@@TheZapan99 I don’t know I can’t see the future so haven’t seen the actual series and I’m not a monkey who cries over a couple of trailers. I have a doubt tho so this channel just throws hate at every single material of any franchise? i never saw a video discussing one postive thing its all crying and hating like a bunch of edgy teenagers. Lame and sad but also funny
Apparently Lenny Henry disappearing from uk tv after being a major British icon isnt his fault "he was held back". Sounds like the excuse of most left wingers, which strangely he now apparently is. No surprise.
You right wingers always complain that the left “drags politics into everything”, yet you’re proving the right is just as bad if not worse.
Still infuriates me that he's still referred to as a "comedian".
Never been funny. Awful television shows, and even worse stand up. I would've struggled to watch The Rings of Power anyway, but seeing him in it was just the nudge I needed to not watch any of this shite.
Lenny Henry hasn't been funny since he was in TIWAS.
Very harsh thing to say about Dawn French imo.
@@bring-out Yeah, he was happy appealing to the 'white working class' that he has utter disdain for now and blames for all his 'suffering'. He is a twat of the highest order!
Celeborn was with Galadriel throughout the Third Age as well, and stayed in Lothlorien (for another 50 or 100 years) after Galadriel went back across the sea to Valinor at the end of The Return of the King. And they were married in the First Age, after they met in Beleriand during the war against Morgoth.
So now I guess he's disappeared/dead, because you can't have your strong female character love a man?
I thought they met shortly after she entered Middle Earth. I thought he was there before her.
I think Galadriel is single, so she can mingle. Amazon hired an intimacy coach for a reason. Who will she have a fling with? Could be anyone, really. Celebrimbor, Annatar/Sauron, Isildur, maybe Tom Bombadil when he's written into the story to boost ratings!
Hmm watch the video from 9:55 and onward. Az may have answered it.
@@JoshuaHeald All of them. Also Miriel.
And he and Galadriel had already noped out of Beleriand a good century before the final battles of the first age... meaning all this shit she's expositing she didn't actually see....
Sauron never took on the form of a human, he wouldn't lower himself to that.. but then you'd have to have read Tolkiens work to know that, which no one at Amazon apparently has...
Massive facts
During the second age, he became Annatar 'the giver of gifts' and he befriended the Elf smiths of Eregion, including Celebrimbor and counselled them in arts and magic. Not all the Elves trusted him, particularly Lady Galadriel, Elrond, and Gil-galad. It is not specified if the shape he took was elf or man just described as fair of face
Whether they will stay true to this lore though is highly unlikely
While I am glad that a segment of the people involved were able to work and put food on their table and pay their bills working on this POS, my honest wish is that this would fail miserably in so many other ways and ruin the careers of all of the people who have championed it whether as actors or producers or writers or directors and that it would completely blow up in Jeff Bezos' face and force him to eat a piece of humble pie. This show has shown continually that it is nothing but a blatant, tokenized, moderized perversion of a world that was created by an author whose intellect and imagination completely blows away anyone that is working on this show. The love and commitment that Tolkien poured into building Middle-Earth is being blackened and destroyed every second that this goes on.
I don't care if I'm called a phobe or an ist or whatever. There are no black elves or dwarves. Female dwarves have beards. Galadriel was married to Celeborn and she didn't do any of this stuff they have her involved in. Tar-Miriel is has been cast as a tokenized black woman to appease diversity checkboxes. This Harfoot/Hobbit nonsense is just filler, as are half the made up characters on the show, it seems. There were no wizards in the 2nd age. SAURON made the One Ring. The Ages of the Lamps and the Trees and the First and Second Ages did not involve any storytelling at all with hobbits or their ancestors. There was no need for time compression.
This is all just junk and trash and I honestly don't care if there is never another attempt in my lifetime to adapt any Tolkien material to the screen at all. We now see that if Hollywood/Media Conglomerates/Corporations are involved - they only care about pandering to a small, vocal minority of people whoare perverted in mind, body and soul, and live and die by what goes on in Twitterverse. Everyone else, especially those who built the foundation of the fanbase through the $$$$$$ that they spent and made it possible at all for it to be popular enough as an option for development, are apparently just condemned to the pits of hell for caring about the legacy of its creator.
Keep it up Gary!
Cheer up :) There are enough good ppl that think as you do, and most importantly:
the BOOKS ARE ON THE SHELF! THEY WONT VANISH THEY WONT GET REWRITTEN.
Just boycott this shit. Dont watch - even out of spite!
@@VishnuZutaten👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@VishnuZutaten Books can be pulled from store bookshelves and libraries, whilst Kindle et al can (and have) been rewritten.
Wasn't Morgoth still around when the great trees were? It seems strange to me that they show Sauron instead of him, while he will sure be mentioned in the series if the trees are as well. Why not show him instead of Sauron?
Mate you are spot on and I agree wholeheartedly, evil cannot create it can only destroy but we must stand firm against this garbage. As a fellow fan I salute you and I'm proud that so many people are calling out this trash for what it is. A festering abomination and a perversion of Tolkien's work.
I would have loved to see the first age, but I have no faith with modern companies to make it
That is the correct & prudent thing to think imo bc as we've seen time and again, companies have an agenda and it doesn't look like it's going to stop anytime soon. I'd rather not see any films, shows or read anymore books of my favorite franchises ever again if they're just going to be used to shill political agendas. Sometimes it's best to let something fade away so there can perhaps be a better era to brings these out again.
The Japanese could probably make an epic animated version of it.
@@conebear9291 That would be dope. Honestly, at this point, I'd rather have Japan, Korea or even China remake lotr or touch anything Tolkien than any country in western civilization. The actors themselves said the purpose that show exists is primarily to change Tolkien's work, to modernize it to current political trends. As we all know Tolkien never wanted his works changed.
Imagine seeing the two lamp towers, or Otumno, or Ungoliant, or the dragon and balrog army. It would be great if done correctly.
"Based on the works of J.R.R. Tolkien", in the same way the dump I took this morning was "based" on last night's dinner. They should set the background music to Rape Me by Nirvana...
Having Lenny Henry immediately reduces it to the level of the French & Saunders LOTR spoof
Haha so true, it's bad casting like casting Rowan Atkinson, Ricky Gervais or Simon Pegg in a full-on serious role. You wouldn't be able to take it seriously.
Idk him at all, but his face and voice and accent annoy me lol.
You can see he was cast for diversity quotas.
@@annalisam9999 As were the tanned elf who has a "forbidden love" affair with a human; the tanned dwarven princess(!); or the tanned Numenorian queen. Maybe Sauron created a plague that eliminated all the tanned beings from the Second Age, which is why we didn't see them in PJ's movies!
@@mixelplik *Well you had "tanned" Numenoreans during the First Age when the Atani mated with the Easterlings -- presumably why those of house Bor were swarthy and olive-esque in tone -- similar to when the Numenoreans of Elros mated with the women of Harad post-Drowning ~*
It really doesn't - maybe loosen your hood.. it seems to be cutting off the oxygen to your brain.
Would love to see actual Eminem call out Amazon for using his likeness without his permission, that would be hilarious!
Eminem: "I'm the real Slim Shady, not this pretend m0 the3f*cker!"
He's too busy kneeling for his black colleagues and ranting about Trump.
When Sauron said “I am all the white cis male patriarchy!” and then Galadriel said “and I am all the peoples of color and the LGBTQ community!”…. Mad chills bro. Such a classic. Will remember it forever.
Amazon really has stuck their fingers up at Tolkien who expressly detested adaptations and denied changes to his works. It's the modern-day equivalent of the Louvre getting in a street tagger to improve on Da Vinci's Mona Lisa!!.....its fffing sacrilege. I just can't wait for "The Rings of Misandry...sorry Power"
It amazes me, with all that money they have put into this, and they go off Tolkien`s lore. My only hope from this, is that the younger generation will pick up Tolkien`s work, and read his amazing lore. If some of the rumors are true about this show, I`m gonna be so pissed. Until then, I will wait and see myself what they have done.
Beyonce and Jay-Z tried in their apes carter video. It was absolute idiocracy.
Heh rings of misandry,.....this reminds me of the misandrist attitude of Erendis in the story The Mariner's Wife:
"Her mother had spoken unceasingly against men, and indeed a remarkable example of Erendis' teaching in this respect is preserved:
Men in Númenor are half-Elves (said Erendis), especially the high men; they are neither the one nor the other. The long life that they were granted deceives them, and they dally in the world, children in mind, until age finds them - and then many only forsake play out of doors for play in their houses. They turn their play into great matters and great matters into play. They would be craftsmen and loremasters and heroes all at once; and women to them are but fires on the hearth - for others to tend, until they are tired of play in the evening. All things were made for their service: hills are for quarries, river to furnish water or to turn wheels, trees for boards, women for their body's need, or if fair to adorn their table and hearth; and children to be teased when nothing else is to do - but they would as soon play with their hounds' whelps. To all they are gracious and kind, merry as larks in the morning (if the sun shines); for they are never wrathful if they can avoid it. Men should be gay, they hold, generous as the rich, giving away what they do not need. Anger they show only when they become aware, suddenly, that there are other wills in the world beside their own. Then they will be as ruthless as the seawind if anything dare to withstand them.
Thus it is, Ancalimë, and we cannot alter it. For men fashioned Númenor: men, those heroes of old that they sing of - of their women we hear less, save that they wept when their men were slain. Númenor was to be a rest after war. But if they weary of rest and the plays of peace, soon they will go back to their great play, manslaying and war. Thus it is; and we are set here among them. But we need not assent. If we love Númenor also, let us enjoy it before they ruin it. We also are daughters of the great, and we have wills and courage of our own. Therefore do not bend, Ancalimë. Once bend a little, and they will bend you further until you are bowed down. Sink your roots into the rock, and face the wind, though it blow away all your leaves."
One one hand bold words of 'emancypation' on the other they are bitter and colored with her resentment towards men due to her unhappy marriage :).
It's The Cringe of Power.
Why does Amazon's Sauron look like he's going to car jack me with a screwdriver, just to get the change in my cup holder?
Because he is. Times are tough, he got downsized by CEO Iluvatar for not conforming to company culture, and not a lot of jobs are looking to hire a fallen Maiar with his qualifications.
@@mirceazaharia2094
Times are tough....unbreaded.
@@grandmufftwerkin9037
Touch-DOWN!
It`s not Sauron. She`s played by Bridie Sisson , apparently(rumour). Though it does look like her.
They literally had the perfect template for what elves look like from the movies and I'd argue that the elves from The Witcher look more appropriate than in this show.
Lenny Henry starred in his own Hollywood movie back in 1991 called True Identity, in which he spends most of it in full prosthetic whiteface as he poses as an Italian American mobster. Held back indeed.
BOOM
Yeah that knighthood must be really weighing him down. Really fucked up Ian Holm's, Ian McKellen's, Patrick Stewart's and Anthony Hopkins's careers as well, eh?
I saw that movie, it was funny, but his comedy series Chef! was way better. I have chef on dvd even
Kinda sounds funny to be honest
I remember that
When they asked Simon Tolkien his promised prize he said thirty pieces of silver.
Perhaps he will meet the same fate.
Can we just call him Judus?
I think we as fans should collectively have a mass law suit against Amazon for destroying the integrity of Tolkien's writings. Once we do this on a consistent level against despoilers of franchises they won't attempt to destroy our franchises for gaslighting.
How exactly is that's going to work Amazon didn't break the law
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or, next best thing--ensure they lose $$
unfortunately one actually has to have some degree of legal ownership to be able to sue for something like that
If you wanna keep this from happening again, though, go after Amazon's pride, since this is all about Bezos' ego. They were never going to make any money off this show, streaming just isn't profitable enough and amazon prime video is an afterthought to most amazon prime users, so it's not like this show is going to make a difference one way or another. The show only exists because Bezos wants the same attention Game of Throne had in season 1 (which is why this looks like a cheap GoT immitation).
You wanna make it hurt? mock it relentlessly. It's already getting to Amazon, which is why the marketing has gotten so frankly childish and defensive.
Alejandro, lee otra vez lo que has puesto y luego mírate al espejo. Y busca ayuda ya. Madre del amor hermoso como estáis de la cabecita con los complots judeomasonicos que intentan destrozar todo lo que amas.
Durin's Bane awoke in the third age. It happened after the fall of Gundabad, even after the fall of Angmar. Khazad Dum should be doing great right until roughly mid third age. Whatever balrog that was shown simply cannot be Durin's Bane
Amazon would love to hire you so they can then fire you
Yeah but also the Wizards, the Istari are also supposed to arrive in the Third Age and on the ship from the West, already in their physical form and yet...in this show we'll get a meteor man that will be some sort of Wizard :). The palantiri also were gifts to the House of Elendil and yet Tar-Miriel has one, the lore breakings in the show will be numerous :). Not to mention the entire compressed timeline and all the fanfictiony elements that will feel disjointed and not fitting into the actual Tolkien lore.
Of course it can. Do you really think there is *any* travesty or malformation of the lore these people wont stoop to? It can be durins bane toing a tap dance and revealing itself to be a lesbian girl balrog. come to avenge itself on the dwarves for being so full of toxic masculinity that they even make their women look like men!
Really im joking but wouldnt really be surprised if they do some hateful stuff like that to piss off the real tolkien fans....
@@Kira-zy2ro well, even considering the whole mess they brought on themselves, somehow I still subconsciously try to be a devil's advocate and try to find a reason out there (tf am I doing?).
@@thedarkone9552 fair enough, we all have our coping mechanisms to deal with the PTSD this thing is giving us. I wholly understand you grasping at straws to at least try and find *some* semblance of lore consistency in this shipwreck. ☺
"Debased on The Works of J.R.R. Tolkien" is more like it.
His palms are sweaty, staff's weak, rings are heavy
There's longbottom leaf on his sweater already,
Hobbit spaghetti
Everything is just Last Jedi, with a command structure of 100% women on screen at all times. That's all the show is, wahmen in charge because 2016.
Just having Lenny Henry in the series makes my mind up. He wakes up thinking of racism and goes to bed thinking of racism. What a bore
I know right? Thankfully there's no such thing as racism anymore and this video is just a perfectly moderate 'non-racist' attack on the show.. which no one has actually seen yet..
@@nicknolan9050 I wish the west racist
Prediction: Galdriel's chainmail will turn out to be what became Bilbo/Frodo's mithril shirt.
Oh good God please no. I can see them doing it, but please no. So much wrong.
maybe his cotton undershirt... all the fake armor is a show with a budget this size is embarrassing....
@@abelbabel8484 I'm 93% certain they'll make Sting originally hers in some way.
@@lotsofspots It'll have been her butter knife that she shanked Morgoth in the eye with while looking at the camera and screaming "It's morbin time!" or something.
God fuck, what a train wreck this all is.
@@lotsofspots She probably only used it to keep her brazilian neat.
Lenny Henry was a comedian from the 80’s to 90’s. He was controversial for the time but a comedian in the pack with Jim Davies and Roy Chubby Brown.
Then he continued to do comedy for a charity show called ‘Comic Relief’ as a presenter and again he was a comedian. But that comedy scene he was a part of died out during the 2000’s so he managed to change gear.
Then he sort of disappeared in the 2010’s and only did serious charity ads in black and white. So, strange to see him here. I think he had some film comedy acting roles. He may be trying to start a come-back like James Cordon (a failed “Hi I’m fat UK comedian who got big by accident in ‘Gavin and Stacey’ then saw an opening in the US market) but who knows.
Simply,this is Amazon pissing on Tolkien's work and not giving 2 shots about it
Harfoot proto-hobbits, look up and see a meteor, "The skies... are strange."
Me, XCOM player, "UFO landing site detected. Dispatch the Skyranger."
Damn, slim shady as Sauron is crazy! (Even though he is not Sauron, these are just misleading news)
Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?
I'm thinking it's saruman and meteor man is gandalf
As someone who read and loved the Lord of the Rings and the lore he wrote, I had criticisms of even the excellent LOTR trilogy that Jackson created, though I love those movies so much and they did a great job portraying Middle Earth and the story. So for me this abomination of Amazon is something I know I will never be able to enjoy because not only of it Progressive BS but also that it does not keep with actually story lore. This is not made for Tolkien fans, the people who are making and funding this are on a power trip and giving everyone a big middle finger and saying you are powerless to stop us from destroying what you love for our own ambitions.
So what we do, is ALL of us stand abreast and together, in a mighty battle line, and instead of drawing our swords in salute, we all, in unison, extend right hand high, with middle finger pointing to the star of Elbereth, and give them the Amazon-Tolkien welcome
@@kevinrussell1144 Agreed. But lets point our extended middle fingers at Amazon HQ instead.
@@scottperry7311 A better-directed salute? I'm all in. Thanks for the amendment.
@@scottperry7311 Sorry I put that so poorly. I meant the tip of the finger pointing toward the night star, but the bird DEFIANTLY facing Mord.. (I mean Amazon HQ).
Why did they kill off Celeborn? How are the stupid writers of this show going to explain Celeborn being alive and well in the third age? This show makes no sense!
When elves “die” they just go back to Valinor to chill out in the halls of Mandos for a while before they get their body back. But Celeborn never dies in lore, so the show is still dumb.
@@nikosr265 True. But it seems the writers don't even know that much.
so galadriel can scissor with the rest of the 'strong female characters'
They want to ship Galadriel and Sauron
So the hubby was killed
So they killed Celeborn, I see no evidence of their daughter who was supposed to be married to Elrond. Does that mean they have effectively erased Elrond's whole family? Including Arwen who is kind of important later on.
Yeah this is one of the most bizzare decisions to not include Celeborn and Celebrian in this show!! I mean hell Celebrian was born in Second Age, she would be a good choice for a irresponsible youngster instead of Galadriel :). Celeborn could have time to shine in this show! He is described as Celeborn the Wise: " For the Lord of the Galadhrim is accounted the wisest of the elves of Middle-earth, and a giver of gifts beyond the power of kings....'." Yet already he was disrespected in the hobbit films when he was erased from the White Council and now this?! Celebrian also met Elrond in later period of Second Age so their love begun in that time:
"She committed Lórinand to Amroth, and passing again through Moria with Celebrían she came to Imladris, seeking Celeborn. There (it seems) she found him, and there they dwelt together for a long time; and it was then that Elrond first saw Celebrían, and loved her, though he said nothing of it. It was while Galadriel was in Imladris that the Council referred to above was held. But at some later time [there is no indication of the date] Galadriel and Celeborn together with Celebrían departed from Imladris and went to the little-inhabited lands between the mouth of the Gwathló and Ethir Anduin."
Celebrian could have been the more likely female character to focus on a bit to show her inexperience and attitude, also her arch could be sort of reflecting on Eowyn's, have her in a period of interest with arms and then turn to healing, (Celebrian seems to have association with it as she received a magical artifact Elessar the Elfstone with healing powers):
"And it is said that more subtle and clear was the green gem that he made than that of Enerdhil, but yet its light had less power. For whereas that of Enerdhil was lit by the Sun in its youth, already many years had passed ere Celebrimbor began his work, and nowhere in Middle-earth was the light as clear as it had been, for though Morgoth had been thrust out into the Void and could not enter again, his far shadow lay upon it. Radiant nonetheless was the Elessar of Celebrimbor; and he set it within a great brooch of silver in the likeness of an eagle rising upon outspread wings." Wielding the Elessar all things grew fair about Galadriel, until the coming of the Shadow to the Forest. But afterwards when Nenya, chief of the Three," was sent to her by Celebrimbor, she needed it (as she thought) no more, and she gave it to Celebrían her daughter, and so it came to Arwen and to Aragorn who was called Elessar."
@@fantasywind3923 can't have a strong, independent wahmen tied down by a nuclear family
Yes indeed.
No Celeborn...so no Celebrian...so no Arwen...so no marriage to Aragorn...so Aragorn has no reason to live in Rivendell....so Aragorn probably gets killed by Sauron's servants...and so does Frodo and company as now they have no guide from Bree to Rivendell.... and the Nazgul get their hands on the ring in LoTR and middle earth is f**ked
When they say “Based of the Works of Tolkien” I’m stuck imagining a hobo finding some of Tolkiens balled up papers that were tossed in the trash, and later found it’s way to the dump.
Gotta love when a megacorporation "franchises" Tolkien for "content", a wholly new set of stories that scrubs what Tolkien ACTUALLY wrote, even calling it The Lord of the Rings only making their title a sub-title: his work becoming a palimpsest to much more digestible television to mainstream audiences, with Amazon ROP iconography dominating the cultural consciousness and all spaces and spheres of Tolkien discussion and licensed as merchandise everywhere. It's inappropriate. A co-opting, a hijacking, an appropriation.
This is me being a pedantic Tolkien loser: People in this stream kept saying the Dagor Bragollach is the battle that sank Beleriand. No, the battle that did that (and ended the First Age) was the War of Wrath, where Morgoth was defeated permanently.
It's almost as if these guys don't know anything about Tolkien, but keep believing everything they say without question.
A guy making one mistake about the name of a battle on a livestream shouldn't make anyone start simping for this Amazon garbage fan-fiction though.
@@thatguy2756 why would you jump to such an absolute conclusion, just because one mistake during a casual conversation?
@@peteg475 just keep on drinking their kool-aid my guy
@@mala6238 they've been doing this for years
I used to be one of you
They just want you guys angry for clicks. These losers would lose all relevance the moment people calm down and realize they're full of shit
I shook my head at the numerous mistakes and inconsistencies the writers made with ROP. But when I found out they killed off Galadriel's husband, Celeborn, I threw in the towel. I refuse to watch a second of this shit show.
This story is based on a fart that a guy did while he was in the same room as another guy that was using a pen that he got from Tolkien.
Also some characters share names with some characters created by Tolkien but just by coincidence.
But they misunderstood and turned it into a shart, and when called on it, they immediately lied and claimed it was deliberate from the beginning, done for "diversity" and to make it "more relatable". Then they bought a Vanity Fair article to "prove" and support that lie. Lol.
Same as the Resident Evil and Halo shows.
@@Jeff-cn9up you think they were lying about deliberately making it diverse in spite of the source material? That's the one part I actually believe.
@@JadeRunner No. Just that they misunderstood fart from shart, because they've never NOT $#!% the bed.
I guess Galadriel was bullied as a child by the sons of Feanor?
All the men have boob armor but Galadriel - the only female doesn't.
Yeah, the Elves aren't gonna think it's weird that a man has knowledge of ring lore that is greater than that of Dwarves and Elves combined.
No male carries any authority except for the black hobbit.
Are Galadriel and Tar-Miriel gonna.....you know.....get it on?
Don't spoil it. You have to leave something for Season 2! /sarcasm :)
Yup
Just here to enjoy the train wreck that is Amazon's new show. Keep it up my fellow Nerds.
so this channel just throws hate at every single material of any franchise? i never saw a video discussing one postive thing its all crying and hating like a bunch of edgy teenagers. Lame and sad but also funny
Lenny Henry Is a Sir. So held back.
Its amazing, like Whoopi Goldberg and so many others. So hard done to.
I see lenny is fine with appropriating accents when it suits.
Most lefties are if it suits them but scream ist and ism when it doesn't.
When Gimli said "You gotta do better Sauron!!" i applauded.
Last week called Erik.. they want their unfunny meme back.
Gary: Oooooh, it’s the forbidden love right here.
Chrissie: Why, is one in Slytherin and one in Hufflepuff?
Fr, the Chrissie lady was a joy to watch 😂🤣
Chicks always go for those Slytherin bad boys even though they know they're trouble!
Every time I see that meteor I think :"Michael Bay Mode Activate!"
Having ex-comedian Lenny Henry as a hobbit broke it for me.
I don't even know who he is (or really care). Hobbits are NOT black. This is bad fanfiction.
@@mirceazaharia2094 Not just Hobbits British people are not black.
@@SagaciousNihilist BASED! Lol
The dead guy with Galadriel is Celeborn. He died in childbirth.
If Celeborn is dead, are they going for a "oh he comes back" situation like Glorfindel? I thought his situation was unique? Oh well, who am I kidding. They probably put less thought into it than I did.
Most likely, but considering they're trying to ship Galadriel and Sauron this season, but also to make her an independent woman, are you really that surprised of Celeborn being dead? or presumed dead?
@@rpgadventurer32 Not surprised at all. Just wondering what asspull they're going to employ xD
@@rpgadventurer32 I’m sorry the fuck you mean ship Galadriel and Sauron ?
@@kellerblair2952 9:55 :(
@Char Oh, for the love of Aulë they aren’t going to have a romance are they ?
4:34 I remember watching Troy in the theatre with my Latin class as it came out. in the end it said, "Inspired by Homer's Iliad", and I thought, "Inspired at best."
Third Age 1980 (abbreviated to T.A. 1980) is the 1980th year of the Sun of the Third Age of Middle-earth. Third Age 1980 was also known as S.R. 380 in Shire-reckoning.
Notable events in this year include:
The Witch-king comes to Mordor and there gathers the Nazgûl.
*****A Balrog appears in Moria, and slays King Durin VI.****
Náin I, son of Durin VI, becomes the King of Durin's Folk.
Looks like they are pulling back the awakening of the Durin's Bane by at least two millennia, kek.
They don't give a solitary fuck about the lore, they have made that more than clear at this point.
Fuck this show. Ugh.
Cave men riding dinosaurs. Whatsa matter, bro?
The "Warrior Galadriel" thing is so in-your-face .
8 Mile Malfoy
“Climbing On The Back Of The Works Of J.R.R. Tolkien”
Fixed it
As I've already stated multiple times: I'm VERY grateful that you guys will suffer through this, so we don't have to...but any other person who considers him- / herself a true Tolkien - Fan - DO NOT WATCH THIS SHOW!!! Don't let them sell this as a "success" just because everybody wants to see the traincrash actually happen...PLEASE, stand by the Professor...✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻
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I quit my prime subscription. Thats the only thing I can do
@@jpick8245 same, time ago... Screw them
"You have been told many lies about Middle-Earth" Is this foreshadowing or a huge red flag?
Probably something to do with slavery or the patriarchy considering what we know about the show so far.
Based... why you have the best material that is also loved with built in fans of all ages. Sounds lazy not creatively better...
Peter bent over backwards to know the material and honestly tried to make Tolkien proud...
Still looks about as exciting as a trip to the DMV.
Annatar was the name that Sauron used "The Lord of Gifts"
Sauron: "Do you hear that noise, highness? It's the shrieking eels!" 12:01 "If you swim back to the boat, I promise no harm will come to you."
So is Galadriel jealous of Daenerys now, or...?
My Facebook feed is no longer showing me rings of power posts because I kept commenting on their shit. Earlier today I couldn’t go 3-4 posts without finding one to comment on. Now they’ve been removed can’t find a single one. Coincidence?
i had said on a video by George the Giant Slayer that It would honestly not surprise me in the least if they have Durin III or IV release Durin’s Bane at some point in the series instead of it being Durin VI and now it looks like they are going to do that.
Lenny Henry started as a kids tv presenter and through the 80's/90's he had his own sketch shows etc. Also starred in a few films, one in which he plays a white man.
He was married to Dawn French and presented Comic Relief for the BBC year after year, he has recently won awards for stage performances.
Not a bad career for someone who constantly claims the black community don't have access to equal opportunities. Race is the only thing he talks about and it's fucking boring... 😮💨
I'm an American and don't know his work, but I saw a doc once about the great British comics, and I'm pretty sure Henry is the one I thought of as "the boring one", lol.
@@marychocolatefairy Generally, most Brits consider him a national treasure, as he's been around forever.
Recently, he's made a reputation of race-baiting, which seems to be a priority when working for the BBC.
Actually, I think he's been knighted too? So, his career is basically proof that minorities can be just as successful and he's a big fat hypocrite!
Guys...There is a shit storm on the horizon......and It's gonna just make us love the LOTR movies more and maybe even get us to look back positively at the hobbit trilogy and say.....I have to really bindge watch the Hobbit and LOTR to get the memory of that dumpster fire out of my mind.
LOL exactly my thoughts. Rings Of Power will be like the Star Wars sequels. It will be so awful, that everyone will be praising Peter Jackson's Hobbit trilogy, just like the Star Wars prequels.
Reminder:
Bronwyn is “White Breasted” in Welsh (The Elden Ring language or Mauler-ish)
MauLer-ish. Ah so Eldritch Horror clicks and whoops!!
Man! I hope to hell that really is sauron lol! He looks like a pissed off 16 year old kid that just got his lunch money ganked by the local bully 😆 😆 I wonder what it feels like to set 1 billion on fire lmao!!! Hollywood is a joke
Maybe we find out Gandalf stole his dinner money and it was all his fault ?
They need to have Korn playing every second of any time he is on screen
Lenny Henry is Chancellor of Birmingham City University in the UK. I don't think he has been 'held back'.
The balrog aka durins bane came in the middle of the third age not in the second age so this balrog will probably from a first age battle scene. And Anatar the lord of gifts was disguised as a Vanyar elf who are closest to the valar and eru. They always stayed within valinor being the valar highest elf servants and that is why Sauron or Anatar chose to look like one of them because all elfs know the integrity of their kind.
REMEMBER the SUPERFAN, What if Sauron is hot ? I can fix him, well looks like they will go for it and go send the Mary Sue's to fix Sauron.
Small correction (if I may): "Half the world sank into the Ocean", not because of the Dagor Bragollach, but over 100 years later, because of the War of Wrath.
Why make Tar-Miriel a warror ? Ar-Pharazôn is explicitly described as one; she, is not. This thing sounds like a train-wreck.
She is a warrior because it would be racist and sexist if she wasn't. That's how these people genuinely think.
@@HolyMith That is crazy. There is no basis for that idea. If people are going to invent stuff that is not in the legendarium, they ought at least to grow it from what is in the legendarium. Otherwise they are inventing a fan-fic.
@@JamesMC04 I agree completely. An it's shoddy fan fic written by people who aren't actually fans.
Sauron isn't evil enough, so Galadriel steps up to be the evil but only because she's forced to and is redeemed in the end by not killing Luke Skywalker. I believe I have made the SW's crossover.
Just look at it.....It doesn't even have the LOTR Vibe.....I have barely heard any elf use Elven speech .....Come on.
There are 20 rings, 16 were made by Sauron and Celebrimbor, 3 were made by Celebrimbor alone, Vilya, Nenya & Narya, without the guidance and influence of Anatar so they were uncorrupted. And the last was forged by the Dark Lord himself to control all others, The One Ring of Power.
The thing that sticks in my craw the most is having a female/PoC centric show, written by two white dudes. You really want to empower people? Maybe hire writers and showrunners that wont be speaking for groups they aren't a part of and likely have no meaningful investment in. I say this as a white dude myself, we should be sticking more in our lane and letting other people write the stories that are actually relevant to them.
It's weird to place an entire 5 season series in a time period sandwiched in by far more interesting time periods that Tolkien was more into. His published works in his lifetime were at the end of the Third Age with The Hobbit and LOTR but the writings he was constantly focusing on and reworking were the tales of the First Age. The Second Age was mainly just one long summary to get from the First Age to the LOTR. With the exception of a few unfinished stories he didn't put a lot of effort into fleshing out the Second Age. The closest he came to a novel or novella of the Second Age was the Akallabeth - the Fall of Numenor. There you had an interesting tale of men who were given great gifts but wanted the one thing denied to them - immortality in the physical world. This denial slowly ate at them turning them down a dark path of fear and resentment long before Sauron arrived and he merely hastened their downfall by appealing to their pride and resentment. The Rings including the One Ring have little to do with the story as Sauron really just nudged them a little quicker down that path. This would have made for a far better series with some fleshing out (not 5 seasons though) and it ties in nicely with the LOTR dealing with the ancestors of Aragorn. The elements of the drama are already there - the division between the Elf-friends and the King's Men and with the Valar so non-intervening the doubt of the people (this would probably be too anti-atheist for some)
Instead it seems they are making Galadriel a character who was a side character in all of the lore the main character and presumably Tar-Miriel as a major character as well with little mention of Elendil ie ancestor of Aragorn, father of Isildur, and half the tag-team that takes down Sauron. You'd think Elrond the product of elf, man, and Maiar whose daughter eventually marries Aragorn would be more prominent. Hell, Elrond practically IS Middle Earth! He's descended from the 3 Houses of Men, the Sindar and the Noldor elves, plus his great-great grandmother was a Maiar. Galadriel as only being a Noldor who had seen the light of the Two Trees should be more in a position of wisdom having seen things most people by the Second Age have not. Even in the Second Age, Galadriel should be like she was in the Third Age - someone from a much earlier time with an ethereal quality. Elrond with his complex heritage and relatively youthful age for elves would be a far more dramatic figure facing off against a foe who was an adversary to his great-grandparents (Beren and Luthien). And he has to watch in sorrow the descendants of his brother turn to Sauron which would be far more distressing for him then it would be for Galadriel given that she has no personal connection with the Numenoreans.
The more you think about it the more you (should) realize the missed opportunity in making Elrond the protagonist who chose to be an elf over human, has to watch many of his mortal friends including his brother die, face off against the ancient foe of his ancestors, and eventually deciding on a path of war or wisdom. Instead it looks like we'll get a revenge quest by Galadriel over the death of a brother that didn't exist in the original source material - yay?
I'm completely over this. Right now the most disappointing Lord of the Rings I've heard is that all references to Gandalf have been scrubbed from datamined voice lines in Multiversus after the most recent update. At best this means that they are just delaying adding him to the game for awhile, at worst this means that they are scrapping their plans to add him to the game completely.
Technically the only reason Sauron is stronger than the wizards is because the wizards were sent nerfed, whereas Sauron didn't enter the realm of man with any permission. Which is also why killing him will force him to face judgement for his disobedience.
When Tolkien is crafted in such a way that the new Dungeon and Dragons movie is more exciting... 😜
Middle Earth as Tolkien intended is in the pages of his works, not on any screen. So exactly none of this matters. At all.
All shiny with colours so that people tune in. No story, lots of hate towards Tolkien and the GoT that Bezos wanted with gore and porn down the road. This fan they cannot cheat.
You're not a fan.
The picture of emenem with makeup is hillarous
The fate of middle earth centers on women not men, and certainly not a male hobbit. Excellent!!!!
"Guess who's coming to 2nd breakfast" makes me chuckle every time.
Justice Count Dankula is a hard core Tolken nerd. I'm impressed
Then why'd he say Dagor bragollach was the war that sunk Beleriand into the sea?
That happened much later in the war of wrath.
Why dedicate your entire life to be a “scholar” on a subject, just to completely disregard you own studies and the path YOU CHOSE to cowtail to Amazon who knows less than a casual reader.
£$£$£$£$ I guess.
But the hearts of men are easily corrupted - real Galadriel
Sir Lenworth George Henry CBE. Yeah, his career was held back sooooo much. A very very rich black actor actually very well liked for his work in acting (in the UK anyway). Just another actor leaping onto the woke bandwagon to become even more rich while a lot of people (of all colours) in the UK are struggling to put food on the table for their family. Sorry just pissing me off.
Come on say what you mean Richard - All Lives Matter - the ironic clarion cry of the racist.
I laughed when I saw that goofy actor slowly turn with his mean face on. Guessing that's suppose to be Sauron.
I thought journalists whole job these days was to get it wrong, or have I just been watching entertainment wrong? Usually if they praise I stay away, if they bash , I buy all that products merchandise lmao.
I think this is a good indication of why the recent Dune movie was so well received. Because they stuck as close as possible to the book and didn’t try and rewrite the narrative or characters significantly. In other words, they were respectful of Herbert.
And of course we're not getting morgoth in this it would've been more interesting seeing the story of morgoths rise tbh in the first age.
I watched the trailer and all I thought was "Game of Thrones"
how does AZ know so much? has he seen some special pre-screening or were there any leaks or something? it's not the first time he tells something about the show like he has read the script, but i don't remember if it was ever explained where did he get those informations from, correct me if i'm wrong.
He has a legit source. If you followed his collaborations on his channel, you'd figure out who it may be.
@@rpgadventurer32 i'm pretty new to all these guys so i guess i didn't have a chance to figure it out :D
They show the BALROG to make you think of Gandalf about this series "RUN YOU FOOLS!" pretty good advice.
If you want to understand the scale of "Fantasy on Steroids" that the First Age was on, just remember - Ancalagon the Black used Mount Everest-style mountains as foot rests - one for each foot. Ungoliant terrified _Morgoth._
That scene where warrior Galadriel is warming her hands by the used tampon filled dumpster fire, looks over to Fat Bastard and says, "indeed, everyone does like their own brand." Had me wafting for days.
How many jungle hobbits are there ?
Zero, in the lore.
@@mirceazaharia2094 There are pygmies to the far south.