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Why Is Everyone Quitting Blind Skateboards
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There should also be a video about Mike Piwowar doing Switch FS Flip down Hollywood High 16, and still not even being turned officially Am, as that trick being the ender in a Blind “Am” video.
Both of you are Way more Pro than me, Bro. 😏
Love watching mike P.
Good on you for getting out when you did. Pro for Powell is otw
Mike has never got his fair dues imo, dude is amazing
dude. I didn’t know you rode for BLIND
(I just got back skating last two years)
you are one of the most consistent FUN to watch skaters
keep shredding brother 🤙🏼🛹
I remember when I quit Blind. Good times 😂
😂😂
15 years ago?
The real reason Blind is doomed.
Blind was Ronnie to me. Once he left, I was over it which sucks because the team was really good.
To sound like a complete old guy, Blind was Gonz to me. It was his company and he was only there for a year or so, but it felt legit til Henry Sanchez left. Those reaper graphics and dwindle killed the company.
So, Bill Weiss and Louie Barletta and some other Dwindle guys started a new Distribution company. Opera skateboards and Jacuzzi Unlimited are the new companies. Opera is basically Madness, and Jacuzzi Unlimited is Enjoi 2.0
Not to mention how TJ Rogers would do so much charity work for canada with his sponsors. He also had cancer when he still put out 4 parts. Its really sad seeing BLind go down like this.
I blame the internet. There are only a handful of board companies left that have any kind of identity it feels like to me.
I often wonder if the internet/ social media era of skateboarding just popped the bubble of ‘the club’ of elite skaters. More exposure for dudes who super good like pro level of skating for people who just didn’t have the means to break into the industry because they didn’t have the connections.
Talent these days seems to get washed away by the endless river of epic skateboarding on an instagram feed where back in the day you’d wait months for a team video you’d pick up at a skate shop on vhs and share it with the homies.
I dunno… maybe I’m just getting old
your not getting old and I agree about the times you waited to see a whole video not just a part
Micky is THE most underrated skater in my opinion. I honestly don’t know why because it’s not like he has a bad style or whatever (like people use as argument with Jeff Dechesare). Micky has done some crazy tricks along the years I remember I once saw I clip of him doing treflip fs smith flip out on a bump to ledge just mind boggling
his style isnt bad, it is non existent. he doesnt have any style.
The most magic ones are doin it in a way that has more than just trick execution like jocks at a gym
I used to wonder the same thing, similar to Decenzo. From what I gathered it’s because they dress like it’s “2008” and haven’t moved with the times. I get that being trendy is overrated but sometimes still dressing like you’re 16-18 doesn’t make you marketable. Also if you listen to “the bunt” Canadian skateboarding podcast, they aren’t fans of Micky either, which is rare being that he’s their fellow Canadian brethren. Just some food for thought.
Style is a scale of 1 to 10. Jeffwon song being a 1 and Shane Oneill/Dylan Jaeb/Miles Silvas being a 10. Micky’s style isn’t bad, bad 1 is 1-4 I’d say, Mickys is like a 6, its just above average so he kinda just gets lost in the shuffle where the skate industry is obsessed with dudes that have 8,9 and 10 style because kids want to skate like them which = easier marketability for their brands. That’s basically the jist of it.
New chapter in the skate industry, most of these dudes doesn't need a board sponsor to live!
A lot of big companies outside of the skate world are putting money in their pockets.
Great video man ✌🏻
Olha o Manto aqui :D
Lol it’s the exact opposite of that. The corporations said we don’t need these people to sell skateboards and the majority of dwindle is gonna have to get jobs and not skate professionally anymore
Depends, the only ppl i see making money outside of skating are the ones doing modeling. Which i LOVE
Who is making money in skateboarding outside of winning the big competitions?
Yea the corporatization of skateboarding, great
TJ deserves his own board company or some type of collab effort...15 years plus and he's still insane insane on the board. Credit is def due 👊
yeah and he a great guy, he just recently beat his battle with cancer and couldn't be happier for him but then to hear this happened with blind seems unfair to TJ
I can see TJ on Plan B or Primitive
@@VQ.Family Yeah on Primitive with P-Rod for sure
I'm Chinese
I have a good feeling he's gonna end up at Primitive
What truly sucks about this, is that I’ve been riding Dwindle decks, Almost and Blind, for the past ten years because I love the products and appreciated the company and people behind them. Screwing around with, and jeopardizing the future of this deck company (Blind), makes as much sense as John using old cheese as skate wax. It won’t work, and absolutely stinks‼️
I need to hear about the old cheese😂
I really liked dwindles Resin 7 decks. They're strong and pop. I get some people don't like a really firm board but I had a few Madness decks and I loved all of them, the super sap decks sucked imo.
yeah man, I know a lot of people don’t care for BLiND these days
but personally, I am a big fan of their boards (and at age 42 have a soft spot for their iconic images too) 🤷🏻♂️
sucks they are where they are at this point 🤦🏻♂️
Jacuzzi Unlimited (basically enjoi 2.0) will be using the same woodshop as dwindle (chop) so you can still get the same stuff but support Bill Weiss's (blind) new company (same distribution). I can't speak on what wood Opera (Bill's new board company) will be using though. Have not heard yet.
Dude all I ride is Almost impact lights Max model 😢 I love their boards so much!!
Keep these coming John, as an entrepreneur and long time skater, it’s great to delve into the business side
Sewa Left Blind for a Reason. He was without a doubt the best Pro Skateboarder for Blind.
Yeah micky is nuts he can just casually nollie heel into anything on a handrail fckn wild. Like the level of commitment it takes to nollie heel into a front board on a handrail is insane.
Blind What If was such an amazing video, Blind was my first real skateboard after my KB toys board wheel snapped in half landing my first ollie.
Blind had an interesting direction, it didn’t necessarily have a vibe but it was a super team in its own right. Ronnie Creager was a tech legend, Kris Markovich was an amazing artist and skateboarder, Jake Duncombe can do anything, Carlos Ruiz part speaks for itself, James Craig killed it & had a song by Murs made for his part personally….I can go on but everyone had something special.
R.I.P Blind
If your wheel broke, you didn't land the ollie, and if you got a blind skateboard after your KB toys board then you still did not have a "real" skateboard
@@doctorworm3735 coming from a person who hasn’t switch tailside 270 heelflip a table like Creager, skate a Vert ramp like Jake Brown or switch 5050 a 20 hubba like Carlos Lastra…Id say stick to being a worm Dr.worm lol
Had a vibe ? Lmao the vibe is just skating bro.
I always loved where the Blind name came from, it was because it was the opposite of "Vision". Which was part fo World's assasination of the big corproate skateboards at the time. It's sad to see what it has become where that is how it started.
Like very single other so-called "skater owned" brand, their sole goal from the start is for real skaters to support them, buy their product and make their brand popular and worth something so they can sell to a big corporation.
In the late 90s they sold great pants.
Polar sells them same pants lol
This is why everyone is quitting
Beats Jnco and Tripp pants. 😏
Early 90s
Would love to see some financial reports from skateboard companies and understand more about their margins
This is really well done John. I love the core stuff and not into the TH-cam skating as much but you have always been an outlier you put out great content and have always been true to you and have always stayed the same. Big respect and I’ll continue to support.
I think John Hill really bridges the gap between core and corporate, but I feel like he's truly on the side of core.
@@FREEM1ND nah he admitted he took a different route. Had plenty of looks when he was young to go that route. Getting drunk smoking weed and drinking we’re not his things team riders from the companies he was on gave him shit cause he was not like them… he makes way more money then most pro skaters, but end of the day Revive is not a “core”brand whatsoever, they are more about making content and having fun then being hesh or core. I respect both routes and just love skating in general. Always been a big John hill fan always been a big gifted hater fan. I like both sides. Pretty sure gh likes John though actually has thrown him complements a few times and that’s rare of him to say about revive guys.
THE BOTTOM LINE from the LLC: They screwed around with what was working, reduced the number of the smaller companies under one parent company, which reduced the variety of products being produced, alienated and lost most of their team riders, oh, and they fired Bill Weiss and took control of Madness Skateboards - but don’t worry, this makes everything better, promise (sarcastic)! 😳👍(All true)
So to be fair it couldn't have been working too well if the company was sold for only 1.5m. but that being said, they should've bothered to learn the culture if they wanted to enter the skateboarding world. Obviously anyone who actually skateboards wouldn't see that as a cool thing to do. And skateboarders are very passionate and protective of the sport. Someone coming in and messing up things like this was never going to go over well. I'd be surprised if they don't sell the company again because now it's less of an asset and more of a liability after they pulled that.
They weren’t getting paid either
It’s a lot more then this. They are going the route of dark star and most companies, there gonna sell at Walmarts etc. so a lot of the riders weren’t down for that
@@Therealsteezywalker exactly that too shits wack
@@treytv5495 agreed
Bro I’ve been saying that Micky is one of the most underrated skateboarders in this industry. Him and Sierra Fellers.
Thanks for the shoutout John! ❤
I've been around skating since 87, trust me dude, its NOT going to die EVER! I wish it would because then the parks would be empty! I miss the days of only like 20 people skating in my entire town. I was the only skate in grade school until high school. I started when skating died again in the 80s, and when it died again in the early 90s. Those were different times when everyone hated skating even kids my age. People yelling shit at me out their window, parents wanting me to quit, friends wanting me to quit. Seriously you all don't know what it was like! If you skated then you were like a drop out punk loser to the world. Look how its not like that now! BTW did you know that Wiess, Loui and Co started Sidewalk Distribution? Weiss just started Opera Skateboards with a lot of the Madness riders. I loved Madness and I really liked Resin 7 decks, I will miss those boards.
I stopped hitting the parks when micro scooters became a thing. Along with moving to the sticks in Wales killed it for me 😔
@@blindbrad4719 the scooter thing is getting worse
This what happen when a company just lost its soul and went corporate. The problem with society and our skateboard community is..Everyone can be bought. Its not the Buyers fault, its the Sellers who are the one that sold our community out the the sleazy´-corporate wolves.
TJ and Cody McEntire are two of my top skaters.
I remember top dollar bein the first Canadian video I watched. It was insane. I remember from like then on for many years there was so much more content from Canadian skateboarders. Thered prolly be a 35 person list. With that said tj and Micky are still killen it. Spencer and wade are some of my favorites. Derek swaim was fuckin so good. I hope he still skates
Thanks for the video and update john(you are also a legend btw 😊 but it is nice to hear the humbleness bro)this is sad, growing up blind was a staple and safe haven for skaters and to see it go corp. And fire good people is disheartening 😔 anytime you sellout for $ it will go this way, you gotta do it for the love and never give up(train people to take your place that also do it for the love, ya know)you gotta pass on the tradition of passion, dedication and perseverance. John, you do stuff like this and I am glad people like you and Andy shock, Aaron kyro, and nigel etc. Exsist. People that want to help skaters progress and do what they love. Keep killing it bro.
I realy like these type of video’s , it gives a look behinde all the fun that skateboarding is and it is a great way to learn what it’s like to be around a big company. Great video john and keep on goinig.
I think if there was more advertising targeting non skaters it would really help make the industry boom again. Because skaters supporting other skaters is not enough. We need non skaters to support skaters. A good way to do this would be to have more skateboarding events like SLS and xgames around the world and advertise more. Show people how amazing skateboarding is and how entertaining it is to watch it. For pro skaters to make a living we need skateboarding to be more mainstream and more like other sports. Where we can have competitors where thousands of people come to watch in a stadium. SLS competitions and Xgames competitions used to be that way i don’t know what changed.
Loved this video, thank you John! 🙏
Tj rogers came to our local park in antigonish ns for a demo. Dude did a kickflip to casper on our steep small quarter. Straight up walked up to him told him thTs the most impressive trick ive seen done on that quarter. Seemed no different than telling a buddy that. Great guy didnt expect him to be so nice
My buddies used to go to Antigonish, from Toronto for baseball tournaments. The drive was longer than the tournaments. Beautiful part of the country and great hospitality, I must say.
Really enjoyed this , you’re soo amazingly good at what you do & know how to give a thorough explanation on stuff i love your style truly an inspiration! & always putting 100% effort into every video ❤❤❤❤ Much Respect & Ty 4 all you do
What an informative video...I heard this happening, but thanks for putting it all into a bigger perspective man! I just recently snagged a blind complete 7.5 Checkerboard OG w/ Tensor's and it rides like a dream! Looks like I'll have to snag up what's left in my size range to keep some of this legendary stuff around. Who knows where the brand goes from here after losing TJ among others...sad. I feel blind in itself could've been a more powerful brand amongst the masses, similar to the likes of Birdhouse or DGK...
WOW! loved this style of video! jumped right into the discussion nd brought interesting talking points! actually a good commentary video! looking forward to more of these!
That Tj Rogers clip is so sick, all done in a Coffee shop in Toronto.. Bevy Space is awesome.
The comments on this video are some of the best. People are interested and invested.
People make the business. You have to take care of the people that take care of the business. Or you have nothing and you are being sold at Target.
Good luck TJ. Been skating blind and world industries boards since I was a kid exclusively. 2 massive brands that need an overhaul. World is going the right way.
Bill Weiss is wearing a King Diamond T shirt, that's real shit right there. Sucks to see all these brands go under like this.
Love this style of content and appreciate the industry commentary perspective
Dude this video was so good! Keep up the good work man!
Real talk John👊🏾
I love TJ so damn much. And John you are a top tier pro yourself good to be humble but you are an amazing skater too
I agree with what you a said about Micky Papa. It's a similar story with TJ Rogers.
To me powell has been the truest & most legit & honest company since the 80s to even now. I know theyve had drama issues too like every company but they pulled thru. They currently have a great team & products. Ofcourse this includes bones. Only saying that cause for some reason alot of the youngsters dont realize that bones is powell peralta cause they havent done their history homework. Yeah, bones & minilogo & the whole bones brigade deal are all part of powell peralta for whoever dont realize that. Anyways, l know alot of people wont agree w this cause theres alot of anti powell skaters for some reason which dont make sense being how much powell has done for skating in general. Especially all the cool shit george powell has came up w gear wise. I think all the powell hate is people trying to be cool. Keyword: trying. Anyways, what do u think? Thx & l appreciate this & all your vids. Keep up the good work
That team is unbelievable.
Jake duncombe is such a underrated skater i truly miss watching him skate. His back noseblunt at the brooklyn banks is legendary and also hes the reason i love blind
Bro I literally was skating with TJ Rogers yesterday, he was skating a blank
8:47 That stair set is insane. I go by it all the time, very rough and short landing and pretty steep
"why's everyone quitting blind skateboards?"
because they don't have a clear vision
Hahahaekeooe9
Blind vs Vision, I see what you did here.
I was part of the meeting with the new company when they bought dwindle. They actually said “we are used to getting into special business, we just bought a hair dryer company “. They actually said that. They let me go a few days later
I’ve known Tj since about 7/8 years old… before he ever stepped onto a skateboard and he deserves every bit, I’ve skated with him countless times and watched him come up he’s worked his ass off for this.
My buddy Josh used to drive TJ ftom Whitby to Toronto to skate with us big boys. He was 12 and well on his way to being a big boy, even though he used to ride fakie and say it was switch. He would try and play SKATE with every one that could land a trick. He got bigger, older, stronger and had style coming out of nowhere. And then his feet became ambidextrous. I am proud of this dude and still have one of his first decks he skated when first sponsored by Blind. Of cours it is a Ronnie Creager. I also have a Morgan Smith deck, covered in RDS and Bones stickers he used in Spain when all his got broken. He would play Teck Decks with my oldest Son, who was 4 years old and we still have a few of TJ's old ones. We knew he would be a pro but never thought he would have his own toys too!
@@therapist6328 ya man that’s awesome and same here all of us out in Whitby knew he was destined to turn pro but all the extra that came with it like toys and what not I never saw that coming. Super proud of Tj and stoked to see where he goes next with this now that he’s off Blind.
LOVE THE VIDS MAN 🙂
love the content watch it like everyday❤
We are on the edge of a total collapse of the skate industry. Too much big money and too many business interests involved. More companies will fall soon
TJ was carrying Blind in this era
Ronnie creager is legend of blind skateboard
i love the micky papa part that guy deserves the world. but yeah i hope everything works out for them
It's like how allot of the Blind team left during the 90's all over again minus being about Steve Rocco.
I think with all the new company’s being made by pros and how they keep leaving companies it’s gonna keep making issues like this I’m a fan of them and hope they all stay skating
I lovr listening to this dude
Brilliant video John, really informative ,and was really interesting to watch, what is skateboarding coming too!?
Whenever an art (and in this context skating counts) is having a crisis of monetization I wonder how bad of a thing it is. I don't think selling out is necessarily a bad thing but it certainly is way that authentic art becomes compromised.
The vast, vast majority of skaters lose money on the hobby and keep doing it because it's something they enjoy. That won't stop.
It's an olympic event now as well. That will always leave the door open to the greatest skaters at the time to make a living doing so. There are a lot of sports and art that isn't hugely profitable.
We live in a capitalist society so people losing revenue who aren't already super rich is absolutely a bummer and my heart goes out to all the skaters struggling in a society that doesn't value personal growth and expression. But skating as an art and a sport and a hobby isn't going to be too hurt.
Nice John, I enjoyed this.
_KEEP KILLIN’ IT_
I bet mad companies are gunning for TJ. He'll go somewhere and it'll be dope. I guarantee it.
I knew shit was going down hill when Andy/Revive posted a poll about what videos of his people liked and family videos were like 60% and skateboarding was like 14%.
I love the reaction content
Good vid backed up with a lot of interesting evidence/examples
Decks are one thing, but I think shoes and contests are where pro skaters really make the coin!!
Thanks for making a vid on the topic.
honestly, those guys aren't even worried about picking up a board sponsor, guys like Tj and Sora can easily get something else.
LOL, the first VHS I bought was CKY from a skate shop 😂
shout out shredz!
more of these type of videoes!!!
Really like the new style of skateboarding content
I absolutely love video days. For me tho, that’s the only appealing thing blind has ever done in my eyes tho. I’ve never seen anyone in person riding a blind board, and I’ve never seen my local shop or the local zumiez stock blind boards. I can see why blind was big back in the day, but even having big names on the company wasn’t enough to follow them. Sad to hear knowing they are an og brand with some of the most iconic graphics, but I think we all saw this coming.
Blind was big deal when they came out just because of Gonz and that video. It was still cool until around 93 when Girl started. Blind was nothing after that, after Gonz left it died. I wish they would just retire the company along time ago. We have Krooked now which is pretty much the same company but on Deluxe now and for sometime now.
9:16 I’m glad I got to meet Louie last year before this happened
Let's not forget Rodney Vs. Daewon Round 1 and 2, the BLIND team have some really good parts in those videos. That was Blind for me. I noticed the skate industry feeling weird when I was managing a skate shop in Hollywood, CA. New brands popping up and pro's leaving their sponsors to star their own. Now Dwindle, I use to skate only Dwindle but on the hunt for something else to skate. I'm not gonna stop skating just not gonna skate dwindle
I LOVE YOUR VIDS, JUST GOT A BOARD FROM REVIVE AND ITS ONE OF YOURS!
love ur vids they inspire me to skate more
It's almost like no one learned from when blind used to be a bunch of people that quit Vision. I wonder if all the people quitting blind will set up a new company called "Astigmatism".
I wanna see TJ Roger's on Revive
John keep up the great work
Had the deck with the ice cream trip on it 98-9' Bought it with a bunch of change. Active was pissed
TJ Rodgers is the man
This video made me follow you, speak out loud homie tell it like it is !!!!
🙏🏽
Bro speaking facts. Skate industry punching the air rn
KEEP KILLIN IT🦾🐺🤘🏾
That king diamond shirt is sick
Thanks for the video John👏🏽
Sucks for Blind Skateboards but let’s see what happens
Mickey, tj, the rest of the blind team and mike piwowar shld join plan b or other mainstream brands. They all deserve to be in the spotlight
Heard all the Brands in Dwindle are going to be sold in Big Box Stores. Similar to Darkstar and Maple
but why are boards $70 now
Skateboarding will always survive. The skate industry as we know it will not.
The woodshops used to only sell to major skate companies who could put in a big order. Then they started dealing with skateshops that could order reasonable sized orders. Now they sell to anyone. The market is over saturated and it shows.
I just got a blind deck for 35 on sale from my local shop 😂 blind fell from grace
This is really sad for everyone involved that all this is happening rn.
so many of the core companies I grew up skating just getting chewed up and spat out by people with no heart in skateboarding, just there to make as much money as quickly as they can. Capitalism, what a way to live! 😒
Bittersweet video: love John's commentary. He's intelligent, informed, and quick-witted.
But I hate to hear about some of my favorite skateboard companies in their death knells.
Blind should have turned Yuto pro immediately and gave him anything he wanted. A move like that would have been a wise investment for sales. Instead they let April Skateboard take him and of course they have the good sense to turn him pro pronto. Reminds me of when Powell had Danny Way for years but yet did not turn him pro, even though he was better than half of the old Bones Brigade. As soon as Way left Powell, H-Street put out his first pro board within seconds.
Sad to see legendary brands start going down hopefully a lot more people start skating
Love you John 🙌🙌
While it can be depressing to see that this may very well be the next state in the skate industry, I for one if I ever do get sponsored I'd prefer to stick to the bitter end. I understand that everyone has their reasons for leaving and such but to me, I prefer loyalty above all. I hold nothing against those that leave and have their own path, but companies must find the better way to do things.
i saw u at el sereno skatepark/ nice nollie 180 on the double set.
This was such a good video John I wish skaters could make a living off of skating and get paid more 😢