Capa is selfless, he does not fear death, he is grounded, he is loving and he is loved, he does everything for the sake of humanity and he is not obsessed with anything. He is everything that makes humanity thrive. Pinbacker is a narcissistic selfish maniac obsessed with the sun. He is also a hypocrite as he wants to play go's himself and be the reason the missions fail. He does this only for his own perverted sake and wishes everyone to die before him. He is everything that is about misery and death. 1:02 that's the moment when Pinbacker fully embraced the dark side of humanity to the point his eyes became as black as void that he represents. He is a devil, he even looks like one. While capa looks in quite many ways like an angel. Pinbacker even mistakes him as such at first.
The first time we see Pinbacker and true to form for here and the rest of the film, he is distorted, deformed and monstrous. Probably because looking at him in full, like the face of God, or in the film’s context the sun, would quite possibly drive us insane or and damage us beyond repair. The sun blinds and can kill. Pinbacker looked on the sun, seeing him as God and lived on to become a twisted hellish parody of a divine messenger or prophet as a result. The level of insanity mixed with what my friend who studied philosophy called negative theology- that man cannot truly know God or perhaps is not meant to know of God- truly differentiates Pinbacker as a sci fi villain under the insane category. Knowing that this man was still alive and on the Icarus 1, prowling in the dusty shadows of the lifeless derelict while Capa and the team are searching it still gives me the creeps.
Pinbacker assumes that Man is not meant to challenge God by saving the Sun, but he doesn't consider that maybe Mankind is being challenged by God to save the Sun.
Anyone remember 'SPACE MADNESS' ..?? "They think I'm crazy...but I know better... It is not I, whom am crazy...it is I, who am mad..!! Didn't you see the crowds..?? I've had this ice cream bar, since I was a child...people always tried to take it from me..!! Why...wouldn't they leave me alone. !!??" ~Ren~ (more or less)
They imply the whole Icarus I Crew did it willfully, but perhaps that was not so? Maybe Pinbacker lured them to the Observation Deck, and sacrificed them (something God told Mankind to stop doing to each other).
I always wondered why it was written as "Commander of Icarus I", and not just "Icarus". They wouldn't have known of the failure of Icarus I, and the subsequent need for a 2nd mission.
Should have kept the mystery of what happened to the crew, would've been more disturbing and surreal. The way they executed the Pinbacker was bad. If he said nothing, and was a silent methodical predator it would have been more haunting. If only they could re-shoot that second half of the film up until the very ending. Just imagine instead of him going on this "Ohhhhhh goddddd, the sunnnnnn ohhhh godddd I had to kill themmmmm because the sunnnnn ohhhhhhhHHHHHhhh goddd the sun is GODDDDD it WANNTSTSS US TO DIEEEEEE" speech in an audiolog, he just appears on their ship after they return without any heavy handed foreshadowing, and then they walk into the observation room which is receiving a ridiculous inhuman amount of sunlight. Capa and maybe even (the psychologist) instead of him dying back on the Icarus 1, imagine Pinbacker calmly walks to one of them(presumably the psychologist), they're unarmed. He just coldly and apathetically stabs him to death like a machine. Fucking imagine. The incomprehensibility of the horror. The fact that we do not understand why this highly intelligent reasonable man who was sent to shoot a hydrogen bomb into the sun to theoretically reignite it, to save all of humanity, killed his entire crew and condemned mankind. That would be of far more substance compared to religion or petty messianic delusions of grandeur. Those wouldn't cause a man in space to fuck over all of human kind, or at the very least maybe they would but it makes for a very dull narrative. Subsequently he'd one by one pick them off as they desperately try to reach the sun. Further, this non-violent man has somehow become a capable or rather exceptional killing machine for no discernible or understandable causation. And they never see his face, only the silhouette, nor do they know which crewmember he is. It would be more intense, heart wrenching, and terrifying if Chris Evans' character had to choose to die restarting the reactor due to the antagonist's presence *directly* instead of indirectly. It would make it even more impactful for the scene 'Capa's jump', that Cillian Murphy's character has had to overcome all of this insanity to reach the sun and save the world. That all of this is uncharted and theoretical. That something beyond comprehension is happening, but in spite of this, his love for his family and the world drives him to overcome it all. That's at least my idea.
2 years later, I, captain of the Icarus 3, boarded the Icarus 1 as a means to learn why their mission failed. My crew and I are haunted by Pinbacker's ghost. docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bluD060htjzLI3h0IlP-u47sJCQAad3IABhKOQbVHXw/edit#slide=id.g19f467aba58_1_0
Capa is selfless, he does not fear death, he is grounded, he is loving and he is loved, he does everything for the sake of humanity and he is not obsessed with anything. He is everything that makes humanity thrive.
Pinbacker is a narcissistic selfish maniac obsessed with the sun. He is also a hypocrite as he wants to play go's himself and be the reason the missions fail. He does this only for his own perverted sake and wishes everyone to die before him.
He is everything that is about misery and death.
1:02 that's the moment when Pinbacker fully embraced the dark side of humanity to the point his eyes became as black as void that he represents. He is a devil, he even looks like one. While capa looks in quite many ways like an angel. Pinbacker even mistakes him as such at first.
The first time we see Pinbacker and true to form for here and the rest of the film, he is distorted, deformed and monstrous. Probably because looking at him in full, like the face of God, or in the film’s context the sun, would quite possibly drive us insane or and damage us beyond repair.
The sun blinds and can kill. Pinbacker looked on the sun, seeing him as God and lived on to become a twisted hellish parody of a divine messenger or prophet as a result.
The level of insanity mixed with what my friend who studied philosophy called negative theology- that man cannot truly know God or perhaps is not meant to know of God- truly differentiates Pinbacker as a sci fi villain under the insane category.
Knowing that this man was still alive and on the Icarus 1, prowling in the dusty shadows of the lifeless derelict while Capa and the team are searching it still gives me the creeps.
Well said.
take in this is the most intelligent written comment I've ever read on youtube
Wow this was brilliant! Good read.
"Remember you are dust, and to dust you shall return"
For some reason I really loved this part.
@removethatpfpusubhhumanssa3819 shut up loser
@removethatpfpusubhhumanssa3819 ur a racist Moron
"...are you an angel...has the time come..??
I've been waiting...so long..!!"
"Who are you?"
@@JuliusGrande Who am I..??
At the end of time, a moment will come...when only one man remains...
...and then...
@@thENDweDIE The moment will pass... man will be gone. There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust.
@@JuliusGrande The last man...
@@thENDweDIE ...alone with God...
Pinbacker assumes that Man is not meant to challenge God by saving the Sun, but he doesn't consider that maybe Mankind is being challenged by God to save the Sun.
Anyone remember 'SPACE MADNESS' ..??
"They think I'm crazy...but I know better...
It is not I, whom am crazy...it is I, who am mad..!!
Didn't you see the crowds..?? I've had this ice cream bar, since I was a child...people always tried to take it from me..!!
Why...wouldn't they leave me alone. !!??"
~Ren~
(more or less)
"OK that make sense to anyone" Yeh nah.
I think he murdered the crew and took over the ship
They imply the whole Icarus I Crew did it willfully, but perhaps that was not so?
Maybe Pinbacker lured them to the Observation Deck, and sacrificed them (something God told Mankind to stop doing to each other).
Yes, he took them to the observatory, closed them inside and deactivated the solar filter. They actually find them later, burned to death.
I always wondered why it was written as "Commander of Icarus I", and not just "Icarus". They wouldn't have known of the failure of Icarus I, and the subsequent need for a 2nd mission.
I assume that's why he didn't immolate himself with the others. He KNEW there'd be another mission if that one failed, so he waited to sabotage it.
Should have kept the mystery of what happened to the crew, would've been more disturbing and surreal. The way they executed the Pinbacker was bad. If he said nothing, and was a silent methodical predator it would have been more haunting. If only they could re-shoot that second half of the film up until the very ending.
Just imagine instead of him going on this "Ohhhhhh goddddd, the sunnnnnn ohhhh godddd I had to kill themmmmm because the sunnnnn ohhhhhhhHHHHHhhh goddd the sun is GODDDDD it WANNTSTSS US TO DIEEEEEE" speech in an audiolog, he just appears on their ship after they return without any heavy handed foreshadowing, and then they walk into the observation room which is receiving a ridiculous inhuman amount of sunlight. Capa and maybe even (the psychologist) instead of him dying back on the Icarus 1, imagine Pinbacker calmly walks to one of them(presumably the psychologist), they're unarmed. He just coldly and apathetically stabs him to death like a machine. Fucking imagine. The incomprehensibility of the horror. The fact that we do not understand why this highly intelligent reasonable man who was sent to shoot a hydrogen bomb into the sun to theoretically reignite it, to save all of humanity, killed his entire crew and condemned mankind. That would be of far more substance compared to religion or petty messianic delusions of grandeur. Those wouldn't cause a man in space to fuck over all of human kind, or at the very least maybe they would but it makes for a very dull narrative. Subsequently he'd one by one pick them off as they desperately try to reach the sun. Further, this non-violent man has somehow become a capable or rather exceptional killing machine for no discernible or understandable causation. And they never see his face, only the silhouette, nor do they know which crewmember he is. It would be more intense, heart wrenching, and terrifying if Chris Evans' character had to choose to die restarting the reactor due to the antagonist's presence *directly* instead of indirectly. It would make it even more impactful for the scene 'Capa's jump', that Cillian Murphy's character has had to overcome all of this insanity to reach the sun and save the world. That all of this is uncharted and theoretical. That something beyond comprehension is happening, but in spite of this, his love for his family and the world drives him to overcome it all. That's at least my idea.
What a ridiculous idea of yours, I prefer the original
I love this
Libera te tutemet ex inferis..
That's another one lol
That's the funky shit 🤟
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💜💚🧡💙
#amenhotep
And to this dust we shall return
2 years later, I, captain of the Icarus 3, boarded the Icarus 1 as a means to learn why their mission failed. My crew and I are haunted by Pinbacker's ghost.
docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bluD060htjzLI3h0IlP-u47sJCQAad3IABhKOQbVHXw/edit#slide=id.g19f467aba58_1_0