True, why do you think that is: maybe because it left the card company like, its ok? ( unless it is centering). We have seen cards with print lines, dimples… get better grades. We know PSA does not grade the back of the card has harshly: each grading company is a little different.
Thats awesome!! I have thought to crack a few 9.5's from other companies with a tougher grading scale then psa to get a better mark up. Your video shows that!!
@@twenty1sportscards790 yeah ik but I think that’s why it got the 9.5 on the SGC and I think SGC graded it spot on, it stinks SGC doesn’t pull as much revenue in as PSA
@@DspeedTV We used a centering tool on it once we cracked it and it was spot on left, right, and up and down. But perhaps it was something on the back. PSA doesn’t grade the back as harshly as some others do. We like SGC slabs as well, but the return value just isn’t as high as PSA unfortunately.
Congrats on the 10s and on getting into the PSA lottery. I've heard a lot of people have trouble getting into them, even when they show up on time. I've got a few cards I'd like to get graded with them. In case you haven't heard, CSG just announced a new label and they're overhauling their grading scale. They're even doing away with sub-grades. You guys submitted with them. I know your concerns were with the return on investment. I'd be curious to get your thoughts on the changes.
Thanks Jim, we appreciate you watching and commenting. We are really happy with the results, that was our 1st time cracking and re subbing. We have tried several times to get in with PSA and managed to get 2 spots in to grade, so we are running a little leas than 50%. We are hoping that the “real economy” grading tier is coming soon: we would love to see $20.00 grading fees with PSA again. And thanks for the news of CSG, we had not heard that yet. And that is great news, those other labels were just ugly: love the slabs but hated the labels. Hopefully this will help their popularity and move them up into the top 3. Have you graded any cards with CSG? If not, will changing labels make you want to get some graded with them? Thanks again, we love hearing from you.
@@nothingbutcardboard I haven't graded with CSG yet. I've only submitted to SGC. I own one CSG-graded card which I bought on eBay about a month ago. It's a Gem Mint 9.5. I paid about $30 plus tax. The same card in a PSA 10 holder fetches $140-150. LOL. I feel like I made out like a bandit. I'm really on the fence with submitting to CSG. I like the look of their new label. I like the feel of the slab. I'm really interested in seeing how things play out with PSA and SGC. Those are the two companies I'm most eager to sub with, but not until their prices come down.
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I just got back into card collecting a month ago. My last yr of collecting was 1994. Now with all this grading I had the same idea this yr to try what you guys just did and make a vid about it. My theory was that it was a scam and there was really no rhyme or reason why one good looking card was a 10 over another good looking card that was a 9. This saves me time.
Glad this saved you some time! We actually just posted another cracking video that has HGA slabs a little over a week ago. Check it out if you’re interested. Thanks for the comment!
Hi Page. They are pretty easy to crack open. Below is a link to the video that shows you how to crack them open. You will need to send it to PSA inside a card saver with a penny sleeve. The card savers are not as rigid as a top loader, so it should work for flawless cards as well. Hope this helps th-cam.com/video/YyxrCXhGABg/w-d-xo.html
People use different types of pliers- we uses tile cutters. SGC cases/slabs- seem to come apart the easiest. Just take your time and be careful, it is easy to mess up a card.
Friends, just got back a small order from SGC.. Now., I've been a heavy collector for going on 30 years, my father was an artist, I'm an artist, and I can easily eyeball 9's all day.. It just comes with experience and training.. Get this: Stop Tooling around with SGC 9.5s.. They [ARE] the equivalent of PSA 10, but you can buy them for much less, and folks on eBay will work with you a bit on price, especially these days.. . 'It's just that simple. Remember: SGC, established in the late 90's, applies the Psychology of the Classroom Standard Grading Scale, and not 10 Good, 9 Kinda and 8 Boo Scale.. Instead..'Think About It This Way: [Below] 100 = Outstanding 95 = A+ 90 = A 85 = B+ 80 = B 70 = C (Average) 60 = D (Below Average) 50 Hope this Helps. Best! \\// '
PSA is going to have to grade it either way. If they see a SGC 9.5, I feel like they would be more inclined to give it a 9. But that’s just my opinion. Also, the PSA crossover service is currently suspended.
I dropped PSA and only submit to SGC now. Winning the “lottery” to get a chance to submit cards at an inflated price is BS. I get they are the standard and set the market price but the company has turned to trash.
It’s tough to be consistent (PSA) when you’re pumping out hundreds of thousands of cards a day. We agree prices are outrageous and turn around times have been extremely slow on old orders, but right now they set the price market. SGC is a great grader and we hope they catch up in value to PSA in the future.
I've mentioned this before over the last 5 years I've been buying very inexpensive 10 common cards mostly from the junk wax era I have removed those out of the slabs and looked over on myself 85 out of 86 had obvious imperfections in them with the card prices skyrocketing and everything hinging on that 10 slab they are overworked there's not enough people and obvious things are being looked over you pull a 10 out of a graded card or out of a graded slab from 5 10 years ago it's egregious and they know this there is a better way to do it and then using a plastic slab really a plastic slab what is one of the properties of plastic it's oil good luck in all your endeavors
Depends on what you are trying to do with the card. If it is going to be part of your PC, SGC is a fine choice. If you want to resell the cards, I would go with PSA. It will sell faster and for more money
It does look like that Hurts is off left to right, surprised it got a 10. I'm like everyone else, but I still can't bring myself to send modern to SGC. I will do vintage all day long. If you look at comps, SGC is right there or even better than PSA with vintage.
It looked pretty good in person, but PSA does allow for 60-40 on front centering. I’ve seen some super off centered cards that came back PSA 10 that left me scratching my head in a good way lol. We’re not knocking SGC in any way, they are a terrific grader. Unfortunately, the resale just isn’t there for modern like it is for PSA. We were also curious how the 9.5 would cross over. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
The Tua card is such a low numbered card there probably isn't much added value. Also grading companies don't consider most surface dimples an issue. That Hurts looks pretty off center left to right which I feel like justifies a 9 grade unless everything else is near perfect, hence the SGC 9.5 (which is a big reason to prefer SGC).
So if you ever sell that card will you let the buyer know of the dimples in the foil did you seem really excited that you almost doubled or tripled the value of that card going to another company collectors are becoming their own worst enemies
To be fair, the Tua card with the minor dimples was already a SGC 10 before we submitted it to PSA. From what I’ve seen, near perfect cards can still Gem Mint even with dimples. Appreciate the comments though.
Personally I prefer CSG slabs. I just feel like they are the most solid and I like the clear plastic. But to be fair, SGC also graded the card a 10. So PSA wasn’t to the only one who looked past the dimple.
everyone needs to keep in mind that a card doesn't have to have perfect centering to get a PSA 10. I think the reason they do that is because you would literally have to measure every single card to see if the centering is perfect or not. Other companies may have the time to do that, but with as many cards as PSA grades, there is no way they can take time to measure every card for centering, so as long as it is very close, it falls within PSA standards
We actually threw the card in a centering tool before we sent it to PSA and it was pretty dang close. The slab may make it look worse than it is. Regardless, PSA requires 60/40 on the front for a PSA 10. When we bought the card at a SGC 9.5, we had a feeling they docked it a half point for centering which is one of the reasons we thought it would be a good resub candidate. Thanks for the comment!
@@broth6 it most definitely is. Serialize "arrange (something) in a series." Numbered cards are literally cards with serial numbers on them. Agree to disagree, but thanks for the comment!
@@nothingbutcardboard what did you do, Google it? I'm talking about a hobby term. No one says that, not sure why you do. People use "serial numbered" or "numbered to/out of"
At this point is seems PSA literally only knows how to grade modern. If you throw them cardboard instead of something shiny you are going to waste your money
You're applauding a company not doing their f****** job come on guys you're applauding a company if two guys that have no real background on grading of cards can see an obvious issue and it's overlooked again it's just makes my point even more polarized
Potentially, small sample size. But since PSA doesn’t have a 9.5, I feel like a SGC 9.5 could go either way as a PSA 10 or a 9. They are definitely more lenient on centering 60/40 as opposed to 55/45 for SGC.
So when you really break this down truthfully you're getting a 9.5 and you're sending it to their competitor and you're getting a 10 come on people are spending thousands on top of hundreds of thousands of dollars and being lied to how the process works
I don't want to send a huge message over the last 5 years I've been buying SGC and Beckett tens common cards pretty much just buying them for what it cost them to send the card in over the last 5 years I have bought 86 cards 85 of them had issues only one was a true 10 the industry is so exciting right now the prices what they're doing with these cards man some of these cards look so freaking cool my opinion is anything graded 5 years ago and older are not true tens the pop reports getting manipulated it's this is going to backfire
I have a love hate relationship with PSA. I have cards that have been there for over a year. Their return times should get better under new management, but they bit off way more than they could chew 2 years ago. SGC is a fantastic grader, but for whatever reason the return on investment just isn’t there yet in comparison to PSA.
@@nothingbutcardboard Because buyers have been CONNED into thinking only PSA is reputable...when it is in fact PSA that has BY FAR THE WORST REPUTATION! PSA is a JOKE! The hobby embracing them as the standard is an even BIGGER JOKE! In my opinion...PSA RUINED THE HOBBY!
We do not disagree. And if it is for a PC card HGA is a great choice. Most of these videos where for flipping slabs for profit to move up to more expensive cards. We have hears HGA has new management, how is that going? ( if you have used them at all)
@@nothingbutcardboard I just got two cards back yesterday of the Disney Lorcana D23 first edition Mickey Mouse's little brave tailors and they look magnificent. Still waiting for my wilt chamberland and Samoa Joe cards. Since management changes, I think they will do better. I predict they will be in the top 3. People like flashy and HGA has that. It is more appealing to younger collectors, and HGA doesn't charge you more after they grade it.
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SGC is awesome!!! I’d rather have the SGC’s TBH. This proves even more SGC is tougher!!!🤙
It's really hit or miss. I've had SGC 9.5's come back as PSA 9's and SGC 9's that have come back PSA 10's.
@@frostyfeetcards lol doesn’t psa not do half grades😂😂
@@iknowfutbol Actually they do. you'll see 8.5 and even 7.5s occasionally. But if you're referring to my previous comment you should read it again.
Very nice! I’ve been thinking about doing the exact same thing with a few SGC slabs of mine…I have Luka pink RR that I’ve been itching to reslab.
So it knowingly has flaws but gets a gem mint 10 grade. Insanity at its finest.
sometimes things like that are considered part of the manufacturing process and not flaws.
True, why do you think that is: maybe because it left the card company like, its ok? ( unless it is centering). We have seen cards with print lines, dimples… get better grades. We know PSA does not grade the back of the card has harshly: each grading company is a little different.
Thats awesome!! I have thought to crack a few 9.5's from other companies with a tougher grading scale then psa to get a better mark up. Your video shows that!!
Thanks for the comment! Hopefully we can do this again soon with other companies.
The hurts looks off centered from right to left! Thats great thought!
PSA has a 60/40 ratio for front centering.
@@twenty1sportscards790 yeah ik but I think that’s why it got the 9.5 on the SGC and I think SGC graded it spot on, it stinks SGC doesn’t pull as much revenue in as PSA
@@DspeedTV
We used a centering tool on it once we cracked it and it was spot on left, right, and up and down. But perhaps it was something on the back. PSA doesn’t grade the back as harshly as some others do. We like SGC slabs as well, but the return value just isn’t as high as PSA unfortunately.
it is
@@DspeedTV exactly
Pretty sure that Tua got a boost in value recently when the Dolphins acquired Tyreek Hill.
Some great luck !!! Congrat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations on a successful crossover!
Thanks and thanks for watching! Hopefully we can do some more in the future
Congrats on the 10s and on getting into the PSA lottery. I've heard a lot of people have trouble getting into them, even when they show up on time. I've got a few cards I'd like to get graded with them.
In case you haven't heard, CSG just announced a new label and they're overhauling their grading scale. They're even doing away with sub-grades. You guys submitted with them. I know your concerns were with the return on investment. I'd be curious to get your thoughts on the changes.
Thanks Jim, we appreciate you watching and commenting. We are really happy with the results, that was our 1st time cracking and re subbing. We have tried several times to get in with PSA and managed to get 2 spots in to grade, so we are running a little leas than 50%. We are hoping that the “real economy” grading tier is coming soon: we would love to see $20.00 grading fees with PSA again. And thanks for the news of CSG, we had not heard that yet. And that is great news, those other labels were just ugly: love the slabs but hated the labels. Hopefully this will help their popularity and move them up into the top 3. Have you graded any cards with CSG? If not, will changing labels make you want to get some graded with them? Thanks again, we love hearing from you.
@@nothingbutcardboard I haven't graded with CSG yet. I've only submitted to SGC. I own one CSG-graded card which I bought on eBay about a month ago. It's a Gem Mint 9.5. I paid about $30 plus tax. The same card in a PSA 10 holder fetches $140-150. LOL. I feel like I made out like a bandit.
I'm really on the fence with submitting to CSG. I like the look of their new label. I like the feel of the slab. I'm really interested in seeing how things play out with PSA and SGC. Those are the two companies I'm most eager to sub with, but not until their prices come down.
The Hurts is definitely oc left to right I imagine that's why it got a 9.5. PSA is much more lenient with centering
Most people don't know that PSA don't even grade the backs of the cards
They grade the back, just not as harsh.
Oh my god I gotta watch this today!!!!
Great recap!
Thanks for the content I would recommend getting Mics even cheap ones that’ll help out the audio a lot
sweet guys i love it
Nice return 🔥
Thanks!
Great video! Was always curious how cracking SGC slabs would go
Thanks for the comment! Hopefully we can do some more crossovers in the near future!
Great Job!
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I just got back into card collecting a month ago. My last yr of collecting was 1994. Now with all this grading I had the same idea this yr to try what you guys just did and make a vid about it. My theory was that it was a scam and there was really no rhyme or reason why one good looking card was a 10 over another good looking card that was a 9.
This saves me time.
Glad this saved you some time! We actually just posted another cracking video that has HGA slabs a little over a week ago. Check it out if you’re interested. Thanks for the comment!
Hi - I have a Flawless card in an SGC case, is it fairly easy to crack open? Once it's open, do Flawless cards need special plastic holders?
Hi Page. They are pretty easy to crack open. Below is a link to the video that shows you how to crack them open. You will need to send it to PSA inside a card saver with a penny sleeve. The card savers are not as rigid as a top loader, so it should work for flawless cards as well. Hope this helps
th-cam.com/video/YyxrCXhGABg/w-d-xo.html
@@nothingbutcardboard Thanks so much! Will get some card savers.
@@nothingbutcardboard sorry to bother - what is the name of the tool you use to do the cracking on the corner?
People use different types of pliers- we uses tile cutters. SGC cases/slabs- seem to come apart the easiest. Just take your time and be careful, it is easy to mess up a card.
th-cam.com/video/gQ7j-tLA05w/w-d-xo.html
Check out this video also- you can see how nervous Cody gets.
Friends, just got back a small order from SGC.. Now., I've been a heavy collector for going on 30 years, my father was an artist, I'm an artist, and I can easily eyeball 9's all day.. It just comes with experience and training.. Get this: Stop Tooling around with SGC 9.5s.. They [ARE] the equivalent of PSA 10, but you can buy them for much less, and folks on eBay will work with you a bit on price, especially these days.. . 'It's just that simple.
Remember: SGC, established in the late 90's, applies the Psychology of the Classroom Standard Grading Scale, and not 10 Good, 9 Kinda and 8 Boo Scale.. Instead..'Think About It This Way: [Below]
100 = Outstanding
95 = A+
90 = A
85 = B+
80 = B
70 = C (Average)
60 = D (Below Average)
50
Hope this Helps. Best! \\// '
PSA owns SGC now too, so something may change with the cards graded with SGC going forward.
Wouldn’t it be better to submit it as a crossover? Rather than cracking it and risking a lower grade?
PSA is going to have to grade it either way. If they see a SGC 9.5, I feel like they would be more inclined to give it a 9. But that’s just my opinion. Also, the PSA crossover service is currently suspended.
Anyone did the reverse and cracked a psa slab and send to sgc?
We haven’t tried because we’d probably lose money during that test. But if you try it let us know!
I dropped PSA and only submit to SGC now.
Winning the “lottery” to get a chance to submit cards at an inflated price is BS. I get they are the standard and set the market price but the company has turned to trash.
It’s tough to be consistent (PSA) when you’re pumping out hundreds of thousands of cards a day. We agree prices are outrageous and turn around times have been extremely slow on old orders, but right now they set the price market. SGC is a great grader and we hope they catch up in value to PSA in the future.
They hand out tens like candy so as to increase their market share of submitted product. A broken system to say the least.
I've mentioned this before over the last 5 years I've been buying very inexpensive 10 common cards mostly from the junk wax era I have removed those out of the slabs and looked over on myself 85 out of 86 had obvious imperfections in them with the card prices skyrocketing and everything hinging on that 10 slab they are overworked there's not enough people and obvious things are being looked over you pull a 10 out of a graded card or out of a graded slab from 5 10 years ago it's egregious and they know this there is a better way to do it and then using a plastic slab really a plastic slab what is one of the properties of plastic it's oil good luck in all your endeavors
I was about to submit to sgc. ? Should I not? Lol
Depends on what you are trying to do with the card. If it is going to be part of your PC,
SGC is a fine choice. If you want to resell the cards, I would go with PSA. It will sell faster and for more money
@@nothingbutcardboard thanks :)
I sent it 84 cards to PSA on 2/17/21 and I'm still waiting. Uggggg
Yeah, I assume that is at the $20 rate. We have 3 orders from about that time last year we’re still waiting on. Fingers crossed it’s soon!
It does look like that Hurts is off left to right, surprised it got a 10. I'm like everyone else, but I still can't bring myself to send modern to SGC. I will do vintage all day long. If you look at comps, SGC is right there or even better than PSA with vintage.
It looked pretty good in person, but PSA does allow for 60-40 on front centering. I’ve seen some super off centered cards that came back PSA 10 that left me scratching my head in a good way lol. We’re not knocking SGC in any way, they are a terrific grader. Unfortunately, the resale just isn’t there for modern like it is for PSA. We were also curious how the 9.5 would cross over. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
It's because SGC has 55/45 centering tolerance as opposed to PSA's 60/40 to still fall into the Gem Mint criteria
it definitely is off, the card is right heavy clearly to the eye. Could see it immediately
Sgc is just a better all around service imo though. It’s crazy that psa still holds such a premium on modern. It’s weird
Psa is really easy for grading , they just hand out 10s . Don’t understand how they get such a premium
I own that Tua card 😂 😂. So random that I stumble upon this video scrolling around TH-cam
That’s crazy! Small world!
Wow good stuff! SGC needs to completely overhaul their slabs man. I could whip ip something on PS in the next hour that I know ppl would prefer
Thanks! Appreciate the comment!
The Tua card is such a low numbered card there probably isn't much added value. Also grading companies don't consider most surface dimples an issue. That Hurts looks pretty off center left to right which I feel like justifies a 9 grade unless everything else is near perfect, hence the SGC 9.5 (which is a big reason to prefer SGC).
SGC or CSG for me
Both those slabs a nice. I prefer CSG personally. Has a nice sturdy feel, super clear plastic, and most importantly not green labels.
Lol was it really a surprise SGC is actually consistent.. psa is a joke it’s comical their prices set the standard 😂😂
So psa is still giving out weak 10s
Got it
Lol take advantage while you can!
I found the video that's clipped in the new intro lol
That was a good one haha!
The hurts looks better in the PSA slab but gold is much better in SGC
So if you ever sell that card will you let the buyer know of the dimples in the foil did you seem really excited that you almost doubled or tripled the value of that card going to another company collectors are becoming their own worst enemies
To be fair, the Tua card with the minor dimples was already a SGC 10 before we submitted it to PSA. From what I’ve seen, near perfect cards can still Gem Mint even with dimples. Appreciate the comments though.
Ya, a nice dimpled card
Personally I prefer CSG slabs. I just feel like they are the most solid and I like the clear plastic. But to be fair, SGC also graded the card a 10. So PSA wasn’t to the only one who looked past the dimple.
so you're two of the psa s
heep
Last time I checked we were not woolly animals. But if we were, we would be BAHHHD to the Bone 😂😂😂
it’s definitely off centered from right to left , the jalen hurts and clear to the eye. it’s right side heavy
everyone needs to keep in mind that a card doesn't have to have perfect centering to get a PSA 10. I think the reason they do that is because you would literally have to measure every single card to see if the centering is perfect or not. Other companies may have the time to do that, but with as many cards as PSA grades, there is no way they can take time to measure every card for centering, so as long as it is very close, it falls within PSA standards
We actually threw the card in a centering tool before we sent it to PSA and it was pretty dang close. The slab may make it look worse than it is. Regardless, PSA requires 60/40 on the front for a PSA 10. When we bought the card at a SGC 9.5, we had a feeling they docked it a half point for centering which is one of the reasons we thought it would be a good resub candidate. Thanks for the comment!
Serialized? 😂
Lol never heard that term before?
@@nothingbutcardboard it's not a term
@@broth6 it most definitely is. Serialize "arrange (something) in a series." Numbered cards are literally cards with serial numbers on them. Agree to disagree, but thanks for the comment!
@@nothingbutcardboard what did you do, Google it? I'm talking about a hobby term. No one says that, not sure why you do.
People use "serial numbered" or "numbered to/out of"
PSA must hate these videos lmao.
Haha, I mean at the same time they are getting extra submissions. So who knows!
Not bad on the tua but I would prob stay away from college uniform cards
We typically do, but we couldn’t pass up on a #/10 gold optic for under $100, even if it is collegiate. Thanks for the comment!
At this point is seems PSA literally only knows how to grade modern. If you throw them cardboard instead of something shiny you are going to waste your money
Agreed
You're applauding a company not doing their f****** job come on guys you're applauding a company if two guys that have no real background on grading of cards can see an obvious issue and it's overlooked again it's just makes my point even more polarized
Lol point taken
Off Centered side to side,, wow should be a PSA 9.....u got lucky
It was sitting in the slab heavy on the left which made it look worse than it is. But gotta love the 60/40 front centering at PSA!
So in conclusion, SGC grades harder than PSA.
Potentially, small sample size. But since PSA doesn’t have a 9.5, I feel like a SGC 9.5 could go either way as a PSA 10 or a 9. They are definitely more lenient on centering 60/40 as opposed to 55/45 for SGC.
So when you really break this down truthfully you're getting a 9.5 and you're sending it to their competitor and you're getting a 10 come on people are spending thousands on top of hundreds of thousands of dollars and being lied to how the process works
Appreciate your opinion
I don't want to send a huge message over the last 5 years I've been buying SGC and Beckett tens common cards pretty much just buying them for what it cost them to send the card in over the last 5 years I have bought 86 cards 85 of them had issues only one was a true 10 the industry is so exciting right now the prices what they're doing with these cards man some of these cards look so freaking cool my opinion is anything graded 5 years ago and older are not true tens the pop reports getting manipulated it's this is going to backfire
Psa 10 are easier to get
Agreed
F psa I was a psa subscriber for 15 year and no more sgc people is the way to go
I have a love hate relationship with PSA. I have cards that have been there for over a year. Their return times should get better under new management, but they bit off way more than they could chew 2 years ago. SGC is a fantastic grader, but for whatever reason the return on investment just isn’t there yet in comparison to PSA.
@@nothingbutcardboard Because buyers have been CONNED into thinking only PSA is reputable...when it is in fact PSA that has BY FAR THE WORST REPUTATION! PSA is a JOKE! The hobby embracing them as the standard is an even BIGGER JOKE! In my opinion...PSA RUINED THE HOBBY!
LMAO EXACTLY WHY I WIONT USE THOSE POS! A CARD WITH DIMPLES IS NOT GEM MINT!! THEIR A SCAM!!
To be fair, it graded a SGC and PSA 10. So it was not just PSA that gem minted it. But I get your point.
@@nothingbutcardboard true however sgc GM isn't their top grade either! game/set/match 🤣
@@justcharlie818 lol good point
Just shows you that PSA is crap!
PSA slab's look outdated and ugly. HGA has the best-looking slabs
To each his own. We like the customization of HGA, just not sure if they’re here to stay just yet.
We do not disagree. And if it is for a PC card HGA is a great choice.
Most of these videos where for flipping slabs for profit to move up to more expensive cards. We have hears HGA has new management, how is that going? ( if you have used them at all)
@@nothingbutcardboard I just got two cards back yesterday of the Disney Lorcana D23 first edition Mickey Mouse's little brave tailors and they look magnificent. Still waiting for my wilt chamberland and Samoa Joe cards. Since management changes, I think they will do better. I predict they will be in the top 3. People like flashy and HGA has that. It is more appealing to younger collectors, and HGA doesn't charge you more after they grade it.
Centering on the hurts is horrible. You got lucky.