How to Decide the Right Subwoofer Crossover
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- Setting crossover isn't an easy thing to do. Especially Subwoofer crossover. This video will help jump start your system and get the blend and bass needed for quality sound!
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Without a doubt you should be a teacher. The version you give us is simple and easy to understand. Some youtube channels write on board and make it so complicated I have no clue what I watched. I'm going to save your vid for future reference because it's easy to understand.Thanks.
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Best explanation yet! Exactly what I was searching for, detailed and informative.
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I just recently decided to add a sub to my music/home theater and your videos have really been helpful. Thank you sir!
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Thanks for the video, well done. One thought on adjustments: when you want to in a certain direction, sometimes creeping up works best, but it's a good idea to go further than you think is right then pull back. It helps to make sure you get far enough. Obscure reference: the 1960s and 70s racing driver Mark Donohue, who had an engineering degee. It was one of his methods. He worked with Porsche in the early days of turbocharged racers to get them to work in the real world, not just full throttle on a test dyno.
Choosing the right crossover frequency is huge..I used to just use 80hz in my setup until I decided to find tune the audio..I have front towers that sound better now by changing the sub crossover to 60hz..I also raised the level higher on the sub. The system sounds so much better now.
Same here, and I have mains that are rated only to 60 Hz. They get a full signal to run freely. Running a single sub below 80 hz on the left side was fine until adding a 2nd sub 2 months ago. Now 60 Hz sounds more natural, both for music and home theater. Space ships and submarines are better with the lower crossover. Duke Ellington's Blues in Orbit LP sounds great, esp C Jam Blues and Villes Ville Is the Place, Man.
Great videos lately. Thanks for education kpaceguy
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I have a SVS pb 3000 and I do 99% movies I leave LFE set at 120hz and my speakers are crossed over at 80hz. But I do love the subwoofer app and can adjust the dB to give me more slam.
You just got the subscriber, I know my bass stuff, but your passion in explaining things got me hooked )) Good job man
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After long time switching between 80, 90 and 100 hz for my center channel speaker I figured 80 hz sounds best by ear. The speaker specs read 72 hz, but no info regarding how much db. Audyssey measures 40 hz for my center channel, but that seems way off specs and fysical speaker size, so in this case I overrule Audyssey. My surround speakers was an easier task, simply cause they are very small. Audyssey measured 200 hz, I kept it there..
Bro l just had to comment. This is coming from a guy in the class that’s not the dummy, but also not the sharpest tool in the box, but your explanation over and over explaining the mhz thing just lite up a braincell in my head that’s been dead for years!
Fu#k man l can’t wait go fiddle with my hz levels 👍
Excellent video tho bro n me and me ears thank n appreciate u 🇬🇧
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Thanks for watching my friend!
Solid information. Thanks pal
Thanks for watching!
I've just tried putting my crossover for the subwoofer to 200hz inside the av. And it sounds great better than it's ever sounded. But no one seems to talk about putting a crossover to 200hz
Yeah because it's very high
Nice info, thanks.
Thanks for watching
So at my particular listening position there's a big bump between 80 90 Hz due to the room itself so after playing around with crossovers, I settled on 90 Hz for the speakers with an 80 Hz lpf on the subs and the speakers and subs 'handshake' really well at and around that 85ish point.
Set to 80hz and only go up from there. My SVS Ultra Towers go down to 28hz. I tried going down to 60hz and I lost some mid bass. The db output of a true subwoofer cannot be matched by most towers.
Really great job!!! One of the best explanations I’ve heard on setting crossovers. I especially liked your description of bass being too “boomy”vs. low presence. Maybe a second video could be demonstrating an example of this: 1 too boomy, 2 too thin, 3 just right. Well done!
Hi, great lesson!
I have klipsch the sevenes, which has 39hz response. And a klipsch sub which the min crossover is 40hz. So maybe i don't need to connect the sevenes to the sub? What do you think?
All personal preference depending on what you like to listen to
Hello , are you talking about 2.1 system?
What about if you have 5.1.4 with different crossover . Where should you put the crossover of your sub?
This applies to home theater as much as it does music
Your videos are very informative, thank you. This is my setup and I am struggling with the crossover and I cannot seem to get it right, what would you recommend i set as the crossover on the AVR and subwoofer if my equipment is as follows:
Centre: Jamo S 81 CEN (FREQUENCY RESPONSE 71Hz - 26kHz / CROSSOVER 2kHz)
L&R Front: Jamo S 805 (FREQUENCY RESPONSE 49Hz - 26kHz / CROSSOVER 2kHz)
L&R Back Surround: Jamo S 801 (FREQUENCY RESPONSE 76Hz - 26kHz / CROSSOVER 2kHz)
SubWoofer: Jamo Sub-210 (Frequency Range [Hz] 38 - 200 / Impedance [K Ohm] 22 / Cut off Frequency [Hz] 40 - 200 / Phase 0 to -180)
AVR: Pioneer VSX-935
80hz for everything except the front L&R. I'd do 60hz for that. But that's just based off the numbers
@@Kpaceguythank you. I will try that out and see how it goes.
I think a lot depends on the subwoofer itself. I have 2 high quality 'musical' subs and I set them rather high, if I had cheaper, boomy, HT ported subs I'd set them lower. Better subs are more than just louder and lower.
Correct
Hey kpace brother, i have a klipsch 40SA atmos speakers using as a Front heights. There is no crossover frequncy listed on the specs, it just saying Atmos ready or something. So in that case whats the crossover ? I have found on the klipsch common speaker booklet saying 150 min crossover. So no idea where to start & set.
Thanks again brother
If it's atmos enabled then it should be able to handle an 80hz crossover
@@Kpaceguy thanks brother , i will start from 80 then
Hi, Kpaceguy I have Polk Reserve series speakers, the R700 towers 38Hz-- 38Khz, the R400 center 48Hz - 39KHz, and the R200 Bookshelf 51Hz - 38KHz what settings do you suggest for these speakers? I'm very new to home theater.
Set them all to 60hz or around there
@@Kpaceguy Without digging deeper into it this is my guess as well.
It's so dependent on your room
Awesomeness thanks. However I’m still lost on my crossover settings. Weird hearing issues. So my Klipsch rp-1400 subwoofer has the dial on back with the frequencies however it also has LFE. No clue what to do. Any help greatly appreciated
Set it to max and let your receiver make the changes
@@Kpaceguy so max is on LFE. Or the highest setting with a frequency?
Thats correct
Hey, Kyle
What are the crossover settings you are using for your KEFs?
50
Sorry I should specified. Your crossover settings for
LF
C
RF
Etc.
Appreciate the quick reply
@@007g35 fronts 50 rears 60 center 80 atmos 80
@@Kpaceguy WOW!!!! You are f’n awesome!!! You replied to both comments quickly!! You are appreciated!!
What HP and LP crossover settings do you use for those R11s?
Crossed at 50hz. Sometimes I just let them go full range
@@Kpaceguy
50HP
50LP
?
@Menash you only have a high pass. Low pass is for subwoofers.
Hello again, i have a kef r7 front
33-22khz
Kef r2c center 74-28khz
Rear
Kef r3 52-28 khz
Ceiling Klipsch 77-28
2 svs subs
What crossover should i put my svs subs. ?
And what cross over point should i put all those kef speakers?
Im using Sony str az 5000es with external amp 200 watts per channel
Thanks in advance.
Personally I'm setting my r7s at 50-60hz and my sub between 60 and 80
@@Kpaceguy how about the speakers? What crossover should i put mine
Right now my fronts 70
My center is on 90
My rears on 80
My height 100
@@elmerbais it doesn't matter as much. Pick what gives a good balance
@@Kpaceguy thanks Brother
@@elmerbais yes sir
Thanks for this video but I have to admit that my crossover setting are totally different after I go thru the Audysee setup on my marantz receiver. My sub crossover is set at 120hz . This is totally different than your numbers
Its supposed to be different. Different speakers in different rooms.
I'm relatively new to this as well and still in the learning process too. I also have a marantz and from what I'm learning about auddessey is that when it's doing calibration it's level matching all of your speakers to play at the same volume which is reference volume (75db) and also adjusting the frequency for room modes. After calibration it's the receiver and not auddessey that try to determine the crossovers based on reflections in the room from all of the mic positions. That's why after calibration it's recommend to manually change the crossover settings because the receiver, not auddessey is saying this is what it think is the best starting point.
Thanks for the reply.
So i have a few questions
If my subs are currently set at 120hz, which adjustment improve the performance. If i adjust the hertz higher or low. I'm looking for more bass.
Also if my main tower speakers at set at 80hz, which adjustment(up or down) would help them perform better
@JSmooth1967 focus on positioning and setting phase for better performance
I can tell you what I have and what they are set to. I have a marantz sr 6015 and a pair of Klipsch RP 8000f (front L-R) Klipsch RP 404c center channel, RP 502s surrounds, 4 RP 500sa for Atmos,SVS pb 3000 subwoofer. My LCR is crossed at 80hz and surrounds at 90hz, Atmos at 100hz, and Sub or LFE 120hz. I do mostly movies and just leave the LFE at 120 but for the speakers I'm always adjusting and experimenting with them. My room is 12x12x9 which is on the small side but right now it sounds good for HT but for music I don't like the way it sound therefore I'm still in the learning process and one thing that I've learned is that the crossover settings for home theater don't work well with music.
Hi Kpaceguy. I love your videos and been following you for 3 years now. but i get lost in translation when it comes to sub and crossovers. I have small Bower and Wilkins M1 satellites speakers(5 plus the subwoofer) and a Denon AVR 750 H. My system never sounds great. What would you recommend me to et these speakers and subwoofer to. People talk about satellites speakers. Thanks in advance
Thanks for watching so long. Sometimes if you've tried everything you can and don't like the sound, it's time for new speakers
@@Kpaceguy thank you very much
You make me very "hmmm". Almost everything I read and saw on different videos, all of them say the sub should be set to 120Hz. If I follow your tutorial, my front speaker is 30-25000Hz, so according to you, I should set my sub to around 30-50Hz?
LFE should be set on 120hz BUT some receivers have a separate crossover for the sub and LFE
@@Kpaceguy Ahh, okay :) Sorry, it´s a bit to much with all settings all over the place, so that´s why I was a bit off. I run a Denom, and have LFE, so I stick with 120 then :)
@@stefantornqvist2498 that'll work
I always hear that the LFE should be set to 120hz
LFE is different than LPF. A lot of modern day receivers have a subwoofer crossover and a LFE crossover. LFE is only for movies
@@Kpaceguy yes, my subwoofer has the frequency dial but it's best to leave it at the max frequency and set the crossover on the reciever. When I made adjustments on my system, the difference was huge. I was doing it wrong before.
@@Kpaceguy so should I change the LFE channel to 80hz to blend in with my mains that are also set to 80hzTHX on my onkyo is THX certified
@@Lowkey_nxthxn it's a great starting point
@@Kpaceguy I will definitely play with it i idk why the movie people always recommend 120hz doesn't that localize the subwoofer to