What to Actually Expect When Wishing - Genshin Impact Wish & Soft Pity System Explained
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- How many wishes does it usually take to get a 5 star in Genshin Impact? What does Soft pity mean, and how does it work? How many F2P primogems do you need save to get the characters you want? Prepare to have all of your questions answered in this Genshin Impact guide / tutorial explaining everything you need to know about the Genshin Impact 4.2 wishing system in 2023!
00:00 | Intro
00:25 | Essential Knowledge
01:43 | Soft Pity Explained
03:11 | What to expect when wishing
04:08 | Genshin's Probabilities are Misleading
05:05 | True average rates for 4 / 5 stars
05:28 | More useful statistics & Bonus facts
06:37 | Outro
If you want to see more precise probabilities for yourself, refer to this tool:
hutaobot.moe/tools/gachacalc
Credit:
Sources for soft pity data:
www.hoyolab.com/article/497840
library.keqingmains.com/evide...
tickets.deeznuts.moe/ticket-a...
paimon.moe/wish/tally
Wishing footage used:
• Wishing for Nahida (Ge...
• Genshin Impact: Nahida...
Music used:
1. • Alpine Incline (Sectio...
2. • 4-05 Chasing Waterfall...
3. • Sumeru OST - Hustle an...
4. • Nebula
Vidmilo's genshin resources (includes follow ups): • Genshin Resources (Vid...
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For those that play star rail: Yes, everything in this video applies! Their gacha system is identical to Genshin's (apart from the weapon banner for now, since only one weapon is on rate up instead of 2)
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No it's not, HSR weapon banner is different than Genshin's 👀
@@KeqingMain278 right, forgot about that! fixed the comment :)
@@Vidmiloo honkai weapon banner also has a guarantee after losing 75/25
@@KeqingMain278 could say not much, Hsr's wep banner only has one 50/50 while genshin's wep banner has 2 50/50s but true
That's a lot of math, but there is a shorter version. When planning to get your 5-star, always expect to spend around 160 wishes to do it (counting from the last even 5-star). Yes, the video implies you can get it sooner, but you shouldn't be relying on that. IF you get it sooner, then just consider the remainder a deposit for your future pulls. That way you will make it easier for yourself and less frustrating if you miss an early 5-star.
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bro are you telling to not build pity?
@@unidentifiedperson3532what that "build pity" is? If that's "using your primos on some random banner, just because you can't hold it", then yes, I say not to do it.
@@unidentifiedperson3532 building pity doesnt even bring any benefits, its just a "strategy" created by people who cant hold theirselves from pulling so they have an excuse to pull on a random banner
@@unidentifiedperson3532 “build pity” is just nonsense, it’s not a thing. You ->earn
This guy is making my mind go blank with the probability..
Im ar 56 f2p and this was so much details my mind can't comprehend it in one go
skill issue
@@OrchidAlloy might be 💀
thank you so much for making this video! after losing my 50 50 to dehya, ive just been so disappointed and desparate to hit pity once again.. but since im an f2p.. the fear of not having enough primogems and time is really concerning
edit: im at 40th rebuilt pity rn and hoping to get him at least before 60 😢
edit 2: I GOT KAZUHA AT 74TH PITY YAYYY
I'm on the same situation as you! f2p and trying to rebuild my pity. Are you pulling for Kazuha or Alhaitham? Also I wish you all the luck and hopefully you get him soon!
@@gobeyondplusultra7 im sorry to hear that. im pulling for kazuha.
thank you mate! you too!! all the best ^^
same here! I pulled for kazuha last week and lost my 50/50 to dehya too! I was at 83 pity... hoping I can clutch this banner! wish the best of luck to you and everyone else who's still pulling!
@@reethelemon i got my baby boi :D GOOD LUCK TO YOU TOO! don't lose hope you can do it! ^^
@@kitty-fx THANKS!!! I'll update if i succeed, or.... fail. HOPEFULLY SUCCEED!!
Hitting pity early in HSR, then going on to do it in Genshin, and even furthermore in HI3. ‘I completed the Hoyoly Trinity’
Bless Seele, Yae, and HoT. Queens 😂
Kneel before durandal!!!
well hi3 is different to begin with, there is no 50/50 wich is such a blessing
Early pity is a really sore point for me, as someone who constantly hits soft pity I have only gotten 2 earlies and that was a 5050 loss and a skyward blade on standard... meanwhile people around me are getting 5 stars at 4 pity double 5 stars e.t.c, although I do feel grateful for the number of 5050s I win, but a 35% chance of an early is way bigger than I thought!
IN terms of budget in total, yeah that would make a big difference, and i think (no calc done) is that even if the do lose the 50-50 early on and get to pity for the guaranteed, it's more likely better value since they got around 2 5 stars in 80-100 pulls intead of winning but doing it at 77 pulls. accumulatively, it matters - especially when you also use standard characters like mona, jean, and even more so with diluc (when reaching c4 he has a good powerbump) or Keqing. ah let's not discuss a certain C6 of reviving everyone... :)
least u got an early. I never have gotten any
@@dice2030 good luck, hopefully you get one in the future and it's a 5050 win too :)
As someone who has gotten like four earlies two of which were losses (and one was a guaranteed event 5* so it couldn't be a loss), and lost six 50/50s out of eight I can say that... Well. I don't feel very lucky tbh.
@@didizeragod I'm so jealous this has never happened to me before... BUT IT KEEPS HAPPENING TO EVERYONE ELSE.... how....
I had the first hand experience of a loosing pity from the standard banner. 😂 I thought I had a luck stat when I got Nahida after 20 pulls, so I tried burning my primo with Yoimiya only to get massively disappointed. 😂
4:15 oh so that's why my first 5 stars on genshin and HSR were on 62 pity exactly. Kinda neat to see that the numbers mean something and not just a coincidence
For me, I was saving for a character I didn't have yet. But when Kirara was released with Yoimiya, I wanted to pull for her hoping that I don't get a 5 star. but alas, I ended up pulling Yoimiya twice before I got Kirara. Then in the next banner, I missed my chance to pull for Heizou with whatever primos I had left 🙃 I'm skipping the current banner so that I can save up for Kokomi 🤞🤞
@@ZcorcherIt’s fate. Become a yoimiya main. /lh ofc
my first 5 star was dehya on kazuhas banner and i was so confused bc i didnt know 50/50s were a thing
Damn, same. I got Nahida at 20 pity and then pulled her weapon in 4 pulls... tried to go for cloud retainer only for it to be a Qiqi. I'm scrambling for primos at this point
i realised how little i actually knew about wishing. that was really helpful, thanks!
5:09 ''Only 2/3 5* will be those you want*
Me, who has gotten 6 5* from the Limited banner, and has lost 5 of those in a row, 4 of them at soft pity.
I'm still waiting for a character I like to break the curse.
If you have lost 5 50/50s then you still have at least 4 5 stars you actually wanted so.
@ssspike1 Yeah, but it takes a huge toll on your primogems supply, specially as a fully F2P player.
atleast you're not alone. Lost every 50/50 since 2.7 which are.. 6? Won my first 50/50 again after ages on baizuhs banner 💀
@@sombraelerizo idk I’m not exactly f2p because Ive spent a little bit on the game but I have also lost 2 50/50s so far. My first ever 5 star pull on a limited banner was Ayakas and I lost the 50/50. I also completely quit the game after that but I did come back recently and got her but then I lost ganyus 50/50 😂.
speaking of unlucky... 3/14 50/50ies won, only twice i had an early. at that point i just kept on thinking there's something wrong with my account... well it is what it is
I absolutely hit soft pity more than 65% of the time. My first time ever beating soft pity was the 1st raiden banner and I've been playing since xiao's release.
Keep in mind that averages do not directly lead to results. It's more likely you start off with unlucky streaks of repeatedly hitting soft pity before you get lucky. In Genshin, this feeling is made even worse, since pity leaves you with less wishes, giving less immediate chances to balance out your rates with better luck.
Lucky streaks are probabilistically inevitable, but nothing dictates when exactly they'll occur, other than bad luck pushing them further away.
Hopefully your lucky streak comes soon :)
@Vidmiloo I've had some luck for sure but according to pity tracking sites I'm in the bottom half for overall luckiness despite being in the top 2% of wishing lifetime. I think my pity average is around 66?
@@KratosAurionPlaysMy average pity is 81. you are lucky.
I got eula since her first banner on 32 pity!!!!
@@KratosAurionPlays Mine's 57 but I guess i am really lucky because i've gotten multiple five stars in one ten pull. Also in the top 0.4 % of total pulls
For next video, I recommend damage calculation or artifact probability calculation
Apparently there is more than probability for artifact rolls
I would say its slightly rigged coz def main stat is more common and 2/3 of the time its the set I don’t want
Thank you for making this video. Very helpful for newer players like me. You deserve more subscribers. Keep up the good work!
I have a friend that never won a single 50/50 and almost every times reaches soft pity 💀
Thats my life xD He should calculate probability of this ever happening
Bruh fr? I thought when you lost your 50/50, the next 50/50 is guaranteed featured character in the banner
@@koji5717 Thats the point ? we lost all of those 50/50 ones, and always hit it on 80/90th pull never early 5*
@@koji5717when you lose your 50/50, your guaranteed is not 50/50 because it’s simply 100%
@@koji5717 It's not a 50/50 if you're guaranteed the banner character
Absolutely amazing video you’re so underrated hope you get the recognition you deserve, here im gonna sub to you 😁
Good work again Milo.
Detailed while still being easily digestible.
Out of curiosity, how’d you calc the 35% and 65% probabilities?
(1-0.006)^73 = 0.6445
@@Vidmilooi understand the pity system quite well since i have been playing from release but i was just confused at 0:44 on why 2/3 are featured when it's a 50/50?
@@Sudoxeee its because garantees, he doesnt mean for 1 5 star he means in general for example you have 240 wishes enough to get 3 5 stars. your most likely gonna get 2 event 5 stars from those 240 wishes because if you lose a 50 50 your garanteed an event 5 star.
I really don't think there is really a flat 35% chance. it more like 30%. like soft pity, the pre pity seem to tilt toward early pull (0-30 yield more gold than 40-70). since the math we care about is the average pull, we ain't evaluating the likelihood of them but their weight in the probablility so 35% might be it probabilty weight than how likely you are to get early... that or i am very unluckly because i really don't believe 1/3 pull are early.
@@Sudoxeee because you are gurentee at least 1 feature in 2 gold. that gurentee can be mathethatically expressed as 100%. add that to your 50% chance, the odd is bump up to 2/3 if you pull gold many times. this graph is looking across the probability of many pulls... from my own averages I said this is confirmed. and it deviation is quite small too.
A really good video, some people know that, but most people seem to be quite confused about it, also idk why but I never even thought about 4* soft pity
Have been playing this game for years and this helps me so much
Just dicovered this channel. Single best genshin content on youtube. Hope to see more videos
Very detailed, Great guide man, You earned a sub!
I always reserve around 150 fates for a character, and mostly expect a 5-star between 60-70.
There were like 2-3 times I had to go to 80+ to get a 5-star in my roughly 1,700 pulls made(limited banner) since the release of the game.
this is a crazy quality video for the small channel u have, sub!
dude, this channel is gold
Thank you for all the information!
420th subscriber, might as well comment to help a bit with the video's visibility.
Well well well I'm gonna be one of the early subscribers of this about to BOOM channel 🛐
Arigatou for all the info Senpai 🛐
Continue doing your videos! theyre amazing
I remember when me and my sister were playing Genshin together, and we agreed that we roll 10 times on standard and 10 on limited, and I got Wanderer on the 6th roll.
thats some good info, thx for the video :D
you deserve a new sub right now. and thats me
0:15 "But before I can tell you the hidden mechanics... " let me tell you about our sponsor for today's video, Raid Shadow Legends Nordvpn Honey. I was expecting it. I truly was.
thank you. I have been playing genshin a few days after realease and I didn't know this
awesome video thank you!
awesome video thanks a lot this helped tremendously
thanks for letting me know! :D
great video. thank you!
I pretty much always get my 5* on Soft Pity, so I always plan around that. At 74 Pulls I always do Single Rolls.
Even if you get a 5* on a ten pull, all of the characters pulled after the 5* will still contribute to your next pity byw
@@Hoodletooh that is actually so good to know! So I am on 47 pity atm, great to know
Almost 60 wishes! Fingers crossed I get my beloved Wriothesley in 2 weeks
I used to do that as well, but ever since I got 2 Ayaka in one 10 pull, I never do single pulls again.
@@HoodletYeah exactly, I feel like the only time you want to do single pulls is when you are at high pity in weapon banner and you are not planning to pull for weapons again so you don't lose between 1 and 9 wishes
@@nikyu.106 Weapon pity does carry over after the banner changes. Its just the epitomized path that doesn't.
ty! i remembered watching this video a while back and couldnt remember the real weapon banner pity tyty
The only math I want to learn
I appreciate your pointing out that characters and weapons can be bought with Starglitter. I think a lot of players don't recognize that by holding onto Starglitter, they can guarantee that they get certain 4 star characters or get Blackcliff weapons which are sometimes the best F2P weapons for dps characters rather than pulling another 7 copies of Thrilling Tales.
Regarding weapons, the blackcliff series rarely outperform other F2P options - and if they do (which is "rarely" for better accuracy than "sometimes"), it's by a margin so small spending the starglitter isn't worth it, unless that allows you to free up a weapon for another character you plan to use simultaneously. It mostly has to do with the passive being pretty meh except against horde of weaker enemies against which it's "okay" - but it still doesn't provide much value because the enemies are squishy anyways.
In short, there's a reason theorycrafters advise against spending starglitter on weapons. It's not that they're bad, because they can be good - it's just that they're often outclassed by other options as I said previously. If someone wants to purchase them, that's absolutely fine. But I just wanted to mention that for future readers.
I tend to get the four stars I want maxed out from banners before they get in the shop 😆 I collect all the males, and all of mine are maxed now except Freminet cause he's new, but I bet he'll come out in the shop way after I've already gotten him from other banners.
@@_Nyxus_ you shouldn't have to worry. They haven't changed the shop characters since release. XD (I wish they added some new ones honestly)
hey, thrilling tales is pretty good!
This is such a well-made and interesting video! I still almost couldn't bring myself to finish it when I heard the expected number for when you get a 5* LMAO (While I kinda dropped it this year, I played Genshin almost since launch and I got a total of ONE (1) character before 80-something. I also only ever won two 50/50s so I guess my luck being terrible is now mathematically proven lmaoo)
thanks for the guide bro. 👌
my biggest brag in genshin is that whenever I want a 4 star and wish for them specifically I get the banner 5 star more often (i.e I had to spend to get Yanfei and I got Zhongli at 0 - 10 pity with a 50/50 twice)
how is this not more popular tf
Ooooohh it's a Gaussian distribution isn't it? Very clever exposition!! Please expound on the mathematics and include the formulae too next time if you don't mind 😄 loving the format!!
It took 6 months to reach pity based of full time finishing daily commission. In some patches let's exclude the amount of chest in overworld, compesation gems and web events you could get between 1.2- 1.5k primogems but if you reach mid or endgame point that can finish abbys 2 weeks rotation all floor 9-11 9 star and floor 12 either 3 - 9 star depends which endgame point and character you have you could basicaly get 1.3k - 1.8k primos every 6 weeks. So in general you can reach soft pity 2 or 3 months faster base on the overall grinds to get pity rate but if we include the former 3 we exclude it can at least make another around 10 - 20+ days faster to reach pity.
most of it just went right across my head except the little that I already knew
this is very good!
I like your channel design (new sub)
I got Chiori at 77th pity and 1 pull...im trying to save for Kazuha, actually. Im grateful for getting Chiori even though i dont want her..
This is cool, I didn’t know about this before. I remember after I came back to genshin I decided to do a wish (because you know, coming back to genshin, right?) I had wished on eulas banner (I picked a banner randomly) and got her at literally 0 pity. it was my first ever 5 star from wishing :)
We need more videos from you.
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Randomly stumbled across this video, just hurts even more when I only got C4 (technically as 5 limited 5*s) in 779 pulls. (At 6:16, excluding starglitter refunds)
Wow so detailed I loved it I spend alot and have 4 c6 and I can confirm this to be correct but only you did a lot of pull it average to be this getting early is very unlikely. I did about 3800 character pulls
Yes, more or less; the more wishes you do, the closer your rate will be ~94 per limited 5 star character
Thank you for this video, now I have something to link to when I get into another discussion that people don't believe that 5 star weapon pity is 100% at wish 77 and not at 80.
On my account, the first 10 wishes, I got a five star. It was the first thing to appear. I was super lucky.
i'm a relatively old player coming back to genshin but i remember how cracked my luck was in the early days 😭 got ayaka, yoimiya, kokomi back to back and hadn’t lost a 50/50 before the rerun of raiden banner
I always get my 5star through hard pity. Only once did i get a 5star within 50 wishes and that is Yoimiya. I didnt even planned to qish for her banner but alas.
I'm speechless. In the video you say that the average of wishes for a 5 star on the temp banner is 62.5. I actually won 26 5stars (1003 days played, F2P) and my mean average is EXACTLY 62.5 (range: 3, 81; median: 74.5;). Also I got 18 50/50 won over 26 (which makes 70%, pretty far from 50%)
I got the early 5 star pull on yellan banner and i was so happy!.
Was.
I love how i got lucky on the venti banner and got him and his wepon in less then 20 wishes
If I’m not wrong this is pretty much explaining the difference between median and mean, the mean for 5* is a lot lower than the median, because the data is skewed to the high side
Finally someone who does it RIGHT!
Oh wow, I knew about the 5 star pity probability going up from 74, but I had no idea that 4 star pity starts to kick in at 9
Like commented and subscribed 👍
Now do the same with artifacts drops probabilities and rates
Its so useful👍
Wanted to mention the standard banner does have its own wierd system when it comes to 5*s. If u go to hard pity basicly put 70 plus wishes in to get the 5* drop it will always be the opposite of what u got last time u went to hard pity. Example if you got qiqi last time you wished at 70+ wishes and then next time u wish and it goes to 70+ you will get a weapon like skyward harp for example. Now lets say u get an early drop at like 50 or 30 wishes that wont change your hard pity one it will still flip flop between weapon or character depending on what u last got at that point.
How did you figure this out? Is there data on this with a significant sample size somewhere or did this come from dataminers looking at how the game is coded or did Mihoyo put this information out somewhere?
By the way my little sister started genshin and after reaching adventure rank 7 she pulled after 6wishes alhaitam came popping .AR7 .....i got Mona at 78 pulls at kazuha banner and at ar 46....
@Vidmiloo your such a nahida's son thanks for teaching this newbies
this guide works! I got a 5 start in only 320 primogems or 2 pulls.
I’m at my 86th wish on ayato’s banner, I got diluc in my 50s wishes (I don’t remember exact number) and got 3 shinobus and 1 kirara, when I’m going to get ayato
Still waiting for the goat to drop a new video
Awesome video, even though I understood almost nothing lol
My take away is that you should not aim for a single 4 star character, and that you should only spend primogems for wishing if you actually want the featured 5 star (unless you are swimming in primos lol)
mhm, that's a good takeaway. Another important one is that you'll get most 5 stars (65% of them) around wish 77 :)
yea I learned the hard way trying to pull for Kirara. Got an early 5 star, wasted a large pity on Miko, and only got one Kirara with a total of 80 pulls. And just last week I pulled a Kirara from off banner lmao.
@@Vidmiloo hi one question
since the probabilities for either banner are the same before soft pity, can we consider the amount of wishes as one big pity system where the probable averages count if you will put in 800+ wishes?
Example: I will have 800 wishes. I would like to Pull Elegy, EL, and 5 copies (2 of Raiden, 3 of Nahida). In the best case scenario (winning the 50/50s vs not winning at all) using 75 pity as average and 65 for weapons it would take about 505 pulls, while in the worst case scenario 1140 wishes.
Using your probabilistic averages it would be 740 wishes, meaning with 800 wishes I should be able to get everything. Im using the real average for the weapon banner for this calculation, while the 94 wishes for the character one.
Can we consider also the weapon banner probabilities as if they were one with the character banner ones? And use the probabilistic average for the weapon banner too? In this case the needed wishes would go down to 658. After all, the basic probability is the same as the character banner until soft pity hits.
TLDR lol: do you think 800 wishes can be good enough for a serious attempt?
@@leonardomeloni69 The odds of reaching soft pity on either banner are the same (about 35% of the time), but the baseline odds for the weapon banner are higher, as well as it having a higher expected number of 5 stars obtained with respect to the desired 5 star. The banners have to be looked at separately, especially since the weapon banner is even more prone to variance.
About 2 in 3 5 star characters (67%) are the desired rate up. 1 in 2 (~50%) 5 star weapons is the specific desired rate up factoring in epitomized path. Overall, the average for the weapon banner comes out to be approximately 106 per desired 5 star, or 132 assuming you go to soft pity twice. I'd stick to the 132 assumption for the weapon banner generally, especially since you're not going to wish on it nearly as much as on the character banner. That's why it's safer to assume worse than the average here.
This means for your scenario, the average wishes comes out to be about 733. Since you're above this average threshold, you have a good shot at getting everything. Even better odds if elegy and engulfing lightning end up on the same weapon banner by some miracle.
Wish for the characters first before you go for those weapons though. If you end up wishing too much on the weapon banner early on, you might miss out on one of your constellations.
TLDR: It's about enough, but don't start with the weapon banner.
@@Vidmiloo thank you so much!
The issue is Venti and Elegy are probably coming in 4.1 according to speculations lol
So İ have no choice but to pull elegy there
Then Raiden in 4.3 and Nahida in 4.4
Or maybe İ have to choose what to sacrifice between C2 Nahida, C3 Raiden or EL/Elegy
The fact is for Raiden Hypercarry İ dont have any 674 atk weapon, Bennett is on Skyward blade and Sara on Sac bow for now.
Since the Harp is on the standard banner İ thought about pulling Elegy for her, and a part of me is hoping to get some more 5 star weapons of the standard banner, ideally aquila favonia or harp
By chance do you know the damage increase of Elegy vs Sacrificial Bow?
İm just trying to make 2 super strong teams to always 36 star the abyss so İ can pull just on characters İ like with all the primogems İ can get
I have been doing a thing, where, after I get a 5 star I want, I pull 30-50 more times. By the time the next banner I want rolls around, there have been 1-2 events, that reward about 20-25 wishes, ontop of playing semi-daily. Around pull 73, I get the featured five star.
I have gotten Itto, Raiden, Navia, Wriothesley, Dehya, and Kokomi, all using this method. Ontop of a BUNCH of standard banner characters, and a whole bunch of great 4 stars.
Great video! The infographics and clear explanations were great! I really look forward to seeing more content from you.
One question - was the omission of information about the hidden character/weapon balancing system a decision you made? By that I mean the system that ensures you receive a similar number of characters and weapons over time, before rate-ups are considered. I'm guessing it was, since you appear to be quite knowledgeable about the gacha system otherwise. Do you think it was too complex or distracted too much from the important points you wanted to make? I think it's quite an interesting topic, but not terribly relevant to actually giving advice for gacha expectations.
At the time, yes, I did choose to leave it out, since it's exclusive to the standard banner. Not exactly a priority in terms of primogem spending, but that itself is an idea that definitely could have been conveyed in this video, which then might have brought the character-weapon "even split" fact into conversation.
There's quite a bit of analysis that, in hindsight, I wish I included in this video, rather than mostly state the facts and provide a few words of advice, and overall i'm not too happy with my wish videos anymore, but hopefully their main messages can get across to people as to what's important to remember.
Glad you liked the video, more content is (slow but steadily) on the way!
@@Vidmiloo Correct me if my info is outdated, but I'm pretty sure it's not actually exclusive to the standard banner! It's the reason that ~45% of 4-star pulls that aren't one of the three rate-up characters on the limited character banner are weapons, and only ~5% are characters - the balancing system makes it much much more likely to pull a weapon for off-rate pulls, because the rate-up pity system ensures that the on-rate pulls are characters. I believe it works the same way for the weapon banner - except characters are more likely as off-rate 4-star drops.
@@happy_ice_cream Interesting, you might just be onto something. I haven't found any definitive data to support the evidence, but if you do know of a breakdown of the system, let me know! If it turns out to be something impactful, I'll include it in my follow up on the second channel.
ive gotten 5 5 stars early, yelan at 29 pity in a single, aqua and lost prayer at 14 pity in ten pull, and lyneys bow at 29 on a single!
For the past 27 5-stars I haven’t hit early pity 😂 the only one I ever hit early pity was my first one lmao (about 0.001% chance of this mathematically happening)
A very nice video
note to self:after 80wishes start doing 1wish at a time
and i am pretty sure i only got 5stars out of pity so ye...am unlucky af
If you want a 4 star youll get a 5 star
The 2 4 stars i rolled for is sayu (i got 2 yoimiyas before i got sayu) and tthe new cryo guy (i got c1 zhongli)
Great video! What was the formula you used to graph the probability vs wishes for each constellation level? Also, what is the 50% breakpoint for a desired 5-star weapon given the epitomized wish system?
Check the video's description, you'll find the link to the website the graph is from. It just takes the rates I described in the video and performs a Monte Carlo simulation :)
Oh, and you can use the website to figure out what the breakpoints are for the weapon banner too :)
@@Vidmiloo oh sick, I somehow missed that link, thanks!
My lucky pull/ritual occur during 10am in the morning after a few 12 hours gap game. I get my Ayato on first 20 pull. After that tried again on a few times and conclude that it works 90% of the time but not in one day. At least 3 days gap.
Another day not using cos & sin
as a person who has never won any 50/50 and always has gone till soft pity, i feel a bit disappointed to fit so perfectly in the unlucky 65%
Hey! Thanks for the video, super helpful! Will we get a video also about Honkai star rail?
Star rail's character wishing system is identical to Genshin's, so everything in this video applies there too
I’ve been in the top 1% of luck for the past 3 year except I only get character i do not want in under 40 wishes and the characters I REALLY want in over 80 I’ve always noticed that if I lose my 50/50s to dilute I always seem to get my guarantee in under 30 wishes
got dehya as my first 5*, currently grinding for zhongli. Will need around 4.8k more primos to hit 74 wishes 🗿
Yupp checks out! I am 128 wishes in and still no Yae Miko. At this point I might just stop and wait for Neuvillette in 4.5
I thought it was meme video at first. Turns out an actual study
Sadness… I lost EVERY single 50/50 at over 80 pity
No idea if it is user problem or system problem 😢😂
i havent won a 50/50 since hutao's release. I've gotten 2 earlies at 40-60 pity after going to soft pity and losing, granted on hsr I got sw in 7 pulls and both blade and his weapon early.
crazy that I get this but I don't get my math lessons
2:50 love the idea but definitely not the case, it’s extremely noticable when spending over 50 but not reaching 90 or 85
Tbh I can't complain... I won my first 50/50 on the Kazuha banner, even though I lost the next one during Childe's banner and only got Qiqi, still that's very lucky, cuz I got the (imo) best character in the game without it being guaranteed (and without even knowing how good he was lol)... My girlfriend told me he was op and so I just pulled for him, I didn't even know my pity cuz I stopped playing for over a year before that, and then I suddenly got him and he became my second favourite character in like two days :)
Lol, I wish I can say that avg 93,75 is applicable to me too. I have an avg around 130(maybe more cause I lost the counts at some point but I'm pretty sure it's +-5 of 130) for rate-up 5* units. Even worse is that all my friends are quite lucky so it feels even more frustrating.
To be be honest, i always calcultw with pitty in mind and feel lucky on the exceltions
Now please make a video about detailed Weapon banner system explanation 😭
I win soft pity several time during the earlier version of genshin. This year's banner I've been losing to most 50/50 while reaching hard pity close to 90.
Yeah, I stop pulling since then