@@ampere7220 Nobody is ever 100% original. It doesn't always matter who is first with a class of idea, it matters who is best and who captures the consumers. IBM was one of the pioneers who created computers in the first place, did Apple rip off IBM by getting into computers? Did every NoSQL database implementation rip off Oracle because Oracle made the most successful and widespread database applications and suites? Of course not. If you can look at something someone is doing, and go, "I can do that, but better/more successfully," that's progress, and that's how businesses work.
@@misterlich2826 you don't get the point. I didn't even say anything about that you are arguing with me about something that I didn't even talk about so you know maybe another time you'll have someone take the bait
timestamps for my own convenience: 8:28 what has the other person contributed to the computer and technology industry? 8:50 Jobs: Gates built the first software company 9:30: Jobs: Gates had the skills needed to build a company 10:06: Gates: 11:51: Jobs: 12:23: start ask question 13:54 microsoft software in the apple 2 computer? 14:06: Gates: 14:35 Jobs: 15:54 Gates: worked together on macintosh 19:16 question: 19:29 Gates: 22:47 apple in trouble and "rivalry" with microsoft 26:30 how does microsoft perceive apple 32:39 is there anything you could have done differently to have a bigger market share for the mac? but then he says something else about software and hardware 34:25 anything you should have done differently 35:44 how do you look at the landscape 45:20 resilience of pc 47:01 explosion of post-pc devices 54:54 not try to be good at everything 56:02 entertainment 59:53 ui of pc 1:07:20 biggest misunderstanding about relationship 1:11:00 questions from audience 1:11:05 anything to communicate to the next president 1:13:33 diversity and convergence devices 1:15:55 legacy 1:19:44 advice for his business 1:22:58 what did the other guy do better 1:24:47 appeal to old people 1:27:42 science fiction
Seeing those two masterminds gives me chills. Reading comments here makes me wanna vomit. Jobs and Gates have helped humanity significantly regardless of whose WON the interview. Personally, I think they both have nailed it and the interviewers were not very intellectual to battle future ideas.
As a computer engineer, I am always inspired by these two men here. One of them is the one who changed the world and created one of the most valuable brands of the world by his deep passion in "perfect design" and the other one has changed the way we understand software and how to sell it. Both have set the bar too high in their own professional fields.
Kudos to you. I did Computer Engineering as well. I hated it when I got shit about it from Computer Science and Electrical Engineering majors, saying I was neither this nor that. What they don't understand is we live in a world which compels 'integration'. Ask a computer scientist to 'integrate' / 'embed' their software onto another device....then see how they react. Electrical Engineers? lol forget it, their purview is long gone and saturated, relative to the two honored gentlemen being interviewed in this video.
Lucky for us we have Musk as well. And Bezos is also a unique key figure. I don’t like his Amazon adventure because I don’t have a warm heart towards their website activities. But I do think his space program is very interesting. We live in a golden age of information and maybe even the start of new planetary discovery. People will look back at this age with a lot of envy. I am glad I was born in this time.
This really is such an amazing interview. Two absolute giants of the tech industry who will both be remember for a very long time, probably actually 2 of the most influential people of the post WWII era. And to have them on stage with each other talking about each other, to see how they are genuinely friends towards one another and have a huge amount of mutual respect, it really was nice to see. Such a shame we will never have something like this happen again, RIP Steve :(
@@lukevenable356the Isaacson book had a lot of factual issues, with a major exception of the section about the development of the Mac 128K (which was basically written by Andy Hertzfeld with editing done by Isaacson). There were lots of ebbs and flows in their relationship, which is natural for fierce competitors in the same industry, but the fact is they did remain fairly close post 1997 for their respective positions.
Watching a cooperative interview with Tim Cook and Steve Ballmer wouldn't be nearly as wonderful as this. These two men had such an incredible competition and cooperation with one another that it's just profound, and impossible to imagine without witnessing it for yourself. These two men, collectively, have made technology into what it is today.
Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. These guys are two innovators and entrepreneurs which not only changed the way people communicate, do business, organize and work e.c.t., but also had a huge impact history on a global scale. I also think that they are two sides of the same coin, Steve Jobs is a pure inventor and a great leader, Bill gates understood all the technical aspects and is an innovator himself but a really admirable persistent entrepreneur and they truly complete each other, even as competitors! True geniuses!
jóhann Leplat Mostly correct, but Jobs is a salesman, not an inventor. Apple has a team of engineers, always had, and Jobs was never part of that. He headed up teams like Macintosh project, but really the brains behind the innovation was in the engineers like Wozniak, jobs just marketed it.
@@thatguyontheright1 Brains behind the project? Sorry, but I have to disagree. Those guys may have coded it, but without Jobs, I don't think it would be anywhere as perfect as it was. Design matters. And Steve wasn't just a salesman. He was also a strategist, and a brilliant one at that.
I loved when one of the interviewers asked a question and Steve didn't want to answer it, so he just swiveled his chair and took a drink of water to indicate Bill should talk. Subtle, Steve.
you found drama were there was none. the question was about microsoft in the early apple products. it was entirely appropriate for gates to answer. and after gates spoke, jobs went into further detail.
exactly, who cares about a open source phone when those people don't know how to use it to the fullest extent and it's literally just a phone, whatever you can do on a phone you can do much more on a PC. iPhones are fast, easy to use and very elegantly designed. PCs are great for literally anything and everything
I like how it seems like sometimes they look at each other and know exactly what happened but if you play cool I will play cool type vibe. Its like don't make me look bad I wont make you look bad. They both have respect for eachother
Microsoft... good devices, good software. Apple.. good devices, good software. But what I'm really interested in is... I wanna have one of these chairs!
chettee I really loved this video showing how both these guys are SO different.. how both people are doing the same things; but it is fascinating how both steve and gates look at the same things soo differently -i think this vid was a lesson on lateral thinking, how to have multiple perspectives
Most beautiful moment in tech community 1:09:48 Former friends, became two greatest rivals / company and decade later they both become great leaders that respect and care about eachother.
@@hoathuyetnhatnhat8919 So that explains why Windows is so terrible now. Windows Vista may been the only mistake by Gates. But i think its ten times better than Windows 10. Only thing worse than Windows 10 is Windows 8. Too bad they didnt stop at Windows 7. Thats when it was at its top
@@kejiri3593 It's not that terrible if you wait before updating to feature updates. The thing is people update feature updates right away when there are many bugs which break things. Just wait for 2 - 3 month, it's just a feature update not a security update
Steve's ability to quote the two of us the Beatles song is spot on here. Paul McCartney write that about his wife I believe. But Lennon often thought the lyric was about him. "two of us have memories, longer than the road that stretches out ahead". What a fitting way to summarise a relationship. Not just their, but all of ours.
1:09:54 well that was emotional, that standing ovation was well deserved...simple moments of words but sums up a rivalry of business between friends in a couple words
It's amazing how they simultaneously compete with and compliment each other at the same time! This is amazing. These are 2 of the most amazing geniouses of our time. It's an honor to see them discuss their respective companies and history of how they got off the ground, more or less.
Oh yeah, there is another interview Steve did with these two talking about putting the iPad project to the side because he saw they could make a phone out of the technology.
0:00 1983 Apple Event (October 1983, Macintosh Software Dating Game) 3:05 1991 Fortune Magazine Interview, Palo Alto, CA. (just 1 image, no voice) 3:30 1997 MacWorld Conference, Boston, MA. 4:44 Bill Gates getting a mixed reception from the MacWorld Conference audience 6:24 2005 All Things Digital, Carlsbad, CA. 6:48 2007 Together Here Now (D5 Conference, no location given) 14:30 Steve Jobs interrupts Bill Gates to tell a story
I have to say, it's absolutely amazing to watch these 2 fathers of the computing industry, being in their element and explaining what the near and far future of Technology is going to be. If we look at what we have now, what we use everyday, it's mind blowing to see how close, if not spot on, they got it right.
Being born in 1992, able to get a grasp of DOS PCs wherein you would need a diskette to run the program, experienced the leap in performance when pentium 4 came out, played playstation 1, and now watching this video on a snapdragon 660 powered device. It's just amazing how technology has come a long way from bits of data to billions of calculations per second just to watch this video while typing this comment simultanoeusly. Thank you, for these 2 gentleman who shaped our world and paved the way for what has to come. Thank you. - Writing this down on my Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 4/128. 10 years from now, folks would know we use this primitive devices that we currently think is a tech breakthrought. Cheers. - Jerico, 2019
Steve and Bill were talking about a future that we currently live in, while the hosts seemed to be struggling to comprehend the ideas. I don't know if I could necessarily blame them since a lot of this stuff wasn't so intuitive to imagine in 2007, but some of their comments just seemed so pointless
Yeah he sure knew where to put his bets... I don't think they would have made the Apple Watch if he was still around. They really claimed that thing to be the "next big thing" lol
watching this 10 years from now on a MacBook air. life is miraculous. so inspiring, 2 geniuses who just want to do better in the things that they love so others can love it too.
I've never thought I'd be so irritated with the interviewers but this marks a special case. I came here to see Steve Jobs and Bill Gates regarding their insight but the interviewers, especially the lady, makes the most rude, redundant and illogical comments/questions. I had thought many times about turning off the interview just because of them. Also, if they're gonna criticize or ask controversial questions, do it in a semantic and reasonable way. this isn't an inquisition, it's a freaking interview. Lastly, the interviewers need to get their freaking ego out and really acknowledge the fact that we're here to see Steve and Bill, not fucking Mossberg and the lady. I have never been so frustrated about the ones conducting the interview.
She's like that in every one of these videos. She's utterly unintelligent and acts like a bitch, but they just keep on bringing her back year after year.
Kyu Ho Lee the male interviewer is considerably more irritating. I totally agree though. I don’t know why these people thought it was *their* moment. They need to shut the fuck up!
Kara is asking great questions. Most interviewers would be completely tongue tied. And mind you the company AllthingsD was founded by her and Walt - so thank them for this moment captured in history!!
Can you imagine these drop out guys changed the world literally! Im a Steve Jobs fan but huge respect with Gates as well. Im quite amazed by these two. They are like friends in a competition. And you can see all the while they have mutial respect to each other.
Everyone is going on and on about how iconic this is.. But I just think it’s fascinating what the industry leaders thought about what path technology would take in 2007 right before the iPhone came out. It’s cool to see what they got right and wrong.
41:04 -- App Store, Itunes, Mac Desktop + Clients (Mac, Iphone, iPod, Ipad, etc.)--> all combined together in the apple ecosystem. That is the marriage what he is talking about.
at minute 50, when Steve said he didn't know what's going to be on a pocket device, he sure knew, or at least had many ideas of what's pocket devices would be like, he thought a while and decided not to give out his vision to the future, which was a smart move.
I'm a Microsoft fanboy myself, but I can't deny that Steve Jobs also innovated in many areas of computing and software. Sometimes I wonder what it would've been like if Steve and Bill formed a company together.
You have clearly missed the entire point. You being a "fanboy" is in complete contradiction to what they said the entire time. They have helped each other immensely, picking a "side" is stupid.
Bless both their souls for bringing us to where we are today in technology. R.I.P Steve. You will always be remembered. Hope to see you again some day on the other side with a few more of your brilliant ideas. :-) As for some of the nasty comments on here, it's a real pity what the world is coming to. Wow! Some of your parents did a very very poor job teaching you to have just a bit of respect and decency. I hope you grow out of it and try to become better human beings, even if just a little bit.
Maybe the woman was weak in asking questions and supporting the conversation. But the old guy had been 'helping' her a lot with it. He'd been interrupting her almost after each of her questions and in general behaved as if he were conducting an interview alone. Steve is great!
Everyone bashing the interviewers should know that this would have never happened if it weren't for them. Mossberg knew Jobs personally and got him to agree to all of the previous All Things D interviews as well. Steve Jobs typically never did conferences like this but made a special exception.
It’s funny to thing about the imaginary competition between Apple and Microsoft, at least from the customer point of view, but in reality these two companies have been working together almost from the beginning. You can see how Steve talks respectfully about Gates and his team, and recognize how they even asked them for support at different stages of the company
43:00 best question: 48:30 bill goes into detail about the future mobile device as Steve Jobs nods jos head with approval like yupp gonna add those features to the iPhone as well, please continue to provide the blueprints Bill, so aware but unaware 🤔
The common theme in this video is “five years from now”...Who would have thought, five years from the moment of this video (2007) Steve Jobs would no longer be with us...
I may hate Apple and never was a fan of Steve Jobs as a person, but he was one hell of a smart dude who certainly helped push a lot of great ideas forward. I'm glad that we at least still have one of these two guys around these days, even if he's resting on his laurels (though deservedly so).
Daniel Babineau Bill Gates is certainly not resting on his laurels. He has shifted his focus from computing to philanthropy, but he continues to work his ass off to achieve his goals.
Such a beautiful moment in modern history, gates and jobs are the pioneers of modern life, watching how they speak to each other and get along is so great, thanks for this upload its really inspiring.
So interesting hearing them talk about "flexible devices" and "projection devices" as the future of smartphones and now today we're seeing this happen in real time. They both could see a decade into the future when it came to technology.
Very historical interview with the most brilliant mind on the Globe but unfortunately this historical moment was made by 2 non professional Journalists with poor communication skills
Those interviewers are just dying to get steve and bill to start a ruckus with each other. I'm glad both of them shared such a healthy perspective with one another and avoided the drama.
most amazing couple of all time; the two gods who shaped how today's world works and the interviewers can't even keep up with the vision bill and steve have for ourworld!
elle2310, no he’d be disappointed. Or, Apple wouldn’t be selling these ridiculously over-priced phones. A bit over-priced is ok, but if it’s ridiculous and greedy like Tim, then I can’t tell you shit.
Knowing what we know now, it almost scary to think 10 years ago both of their predictions were mostly correct and on point. 1 - Curve Screens, Internet TV & cars (smart cars?) 2 - Robotics (hardware) and AI (Software) integration in warehouse & factory 3 - E-ink & voice, on portable devices e.g. Amazon Kindle 4 - Cloud computing - so to off load computing power on local machines 5 - Daily driver - Smartphone form factor as 'read / portable' device (Steve) while larger bulkier 'Pro' machine for 'write device' (Bill e.g. edit your homework or movie on Surface Pro tablet) and the distinction between Consumer & Enterprise market complementing each other e.g. Windows server to offload computer power for today's smartphones whilst using the internet 6 - Rely third party apps to drive market direction e.g. introduction of App Store 7 - Symbiotic relationship between hardware and software - Bill's future believes in more Hardware, Steve's future believes in more software 8 - More internet access will expand their customer base (consumer or Enterprise alike) - "age of digital life" 9 - More competitions is a "healthy period" of growth & inventions in the tech businesses. Sign of high risk also means 'potentially' high returns 10 - Ultimate product category - Convergence between Consumer & Enterprise feature into a single device i.e. fold-able/ roll up screen in portable form factor. 11 - Mobile apps + cloud computer can be utilised way better than browser apps e.g. google maps with richer client experience on lower power devices (software + services company) 12 - Internet based services to surround your life more efficiently e.g. we now calls it netflix, Uber, deliveroo, whatsapp, iDrive & etc. 13 - real world object recognition (google glass?) 14 - Seniors embracing tech so to get in touch with their children using touch instead of keyboards 15 - VR & digital interaction Unfortunately, Steve never lived to see what really happened 10 years after this recording 1:29:03
Good comedy in comments but nothing to do with what they are talking about. The success of Microcomputers is partially due to servicability. Tablets and smartphones are pretty much disposable computers. Laptops aren't much different but they are slightly servicable. Desktops have parts readily available and they are easy to repair and upgrade. I am on a desktop right now.
Laptops also have a battery issue, power inverters blow out the fuse in my car and my laptop battery runs out in an hour or so. Maybee I need a "post pc device".
It's scary how accurate bill's predictions of the future are. I know it's just five years but still thats alot in the computer business. Its easy to see the reason why he's so successful :)
Steve Jobs had some killer charisma
He did. He was clearly the alpha
@@therealjayz8036 Bill was very ruthless and competitive behind curtains to. He really ran Microsoft.
Steve Gates, Bill Jobs
Jerry west True - both of them were brutal and ruthless.
Steve Jobs was truly one of a kind in his way of thinking
These two are responsible for each others success. Their rivalry brought out the best in each other. They could be brothers.
microsoft copied mac, then saved apple. apple gave them money by making them engineering pages etc.
@@ampere7220 it wasn’t apple’s original work either.
@@priyeshsd system 1 was first of it's kind so piss off
@@ampere7220 Nobody is ever 100% original. It doesn't always matter who is first with a class of idea, it matters who is best and who captures the consumers. IBM was one of the pioneers who created computers in the first place, did Apple rip off IBM by getting into computers? Did every NoSQL database implementation rip off Oracle because Oracle made the most successful and widespread database applications and suites? Of course not.
If you can look at something someone is doing, and go, "I can do that, but better/more successfully," that's progress, and that's how businesses work.
@@misterlich2826 you don't get the point. I didn't even say anything about that you are arguing with me about something that I didn't even talk about so you know maybe another time you'll have someone take the bait
They remind me of magneto and professor X
LOLLL
Yes!!!
What’s funny about that is Michael Fassbender has played both Magneto and Steve Jobs lol
Charles and Erik
Who's who haha
timestamps for my own convenience:
8:28 what has the other person contributed to the computer and technology industry?
8:50 Jobs: Gates built the first software company
9:30: Jobs: Gates had the skills needed to build a company
10:06: Gates:
11:51: Jobs:
12:23: start ask question
13:54 microsoft software in the apple 2 computer?
14:06: Gates:
14:35 Jobs:
15:54 Gates: worked together on macintosh
19:16 question:
19:29 Gates:
22:47 apple in trouble and "rivalry" with microsoft
26:30 how does microsoft perceive apple
32:39 is there anything you could have done differently to have a bigger market share for the mac? but then he says something else about software and hardware
34:25 anything you should have done differently
35:44 how do you look at the landscape
45:20 resilience of pc
47:01 explosion of post-pc devices
54:54 not try to be good at everything
56:02 entertainment
59:53 ui of pc
1:07:20 biggest misunderstanding about relationship
1:11:00 questions from audience
1:11:05 anything to communicate to the next president
1:13:33 diversity and convergence devices
1:15:55 legacy
1:19:44 advice for his business
1:22:58 what did the other guy do better
1:24:47 appeal to old people
1:27:42 science fiction
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God bless you
Thanq
Who says angels don’t exist, look at you !
You are a legend bro
Seeing those two masterminds gives me chills. Reading comments here makes me wanna vomit. Jobs and Gates have helped humanity significantly regardless of whose WON the interview. Personally, I think they both have nailed it and the interviewers were not very intellectual to battle future ideas.
I'm with you there all great
no. the human slavery factor negates the good. let fat Americans make their own shit
Newsflash: That's what it takes to build massive companies, like it or not.
+WareFair Soda Both changed the world for the better.
ТTТhis is thе niсеist mоооviе i ееvеr sее!!! I ааdvisе еverуbооооdу tо wаtсh it :) twitter.com/ea0eb707c8e42af85/status/791862196112199680 Stеvе Jоbs аnd Bill Gatеs Тoооgеthеr аt D5 Cоnfеrеnсe 2007
$100+ Billion in two chairs. Insane
LA_Hohn actually more than a Trillion if you consider the wealth they created for others
130 to 150ish BILLION.
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Steve Jobs had $10Billion, when he died. Bill Gates was worth more. But Jobs is more visionary.
As a computer engineer, I am always inspired by these two men here. One of them is the one who changed the world and created one of the most valuable brands of the world by his deep passion in "perfect design" and the other one has changed the way we understand software and how to sell it. Both have set the bar too high in their own professional fields.
Are u think that bill gates have aatitude after become richest man
I think he have aatitude
Kudos to you. I did Computer Engineering as well. I hated it when I got shit about it from Computer Science and Electrical Engineering majors, saying I was neither this nor that. What they don't understand is we live in a world which compels 'integration'. Ask a computer scientist to 'integrate' / 'embed' their software onto another device....then see how they react. Electrical Engineers? lol forget it, their purview is long gone and saturated, relative to the two honored gentlemen being interviewed in this video.
Lucky for us we have Musk as well. And Bezos is also a unique key figure. I don’t like his Amazon adventure because I don’t have a warm heart towards their website activities.
But I do think his space program is very interesting. We live in a golden age of information and maybe even the start of new planetary discovery.
People will look back at this age with a lot of envy. I am glad I was born in this time.
This really is such an amazing interview. Two absolute giants of the tech industry who will both be remember for a very long time, probably actually 2 of the most influential people of the post WWII era. And to have them on stage with each other talking about each other, to see how they are genuinely friends towards one another and have a huge amount of mutual respect, it really was nice to see. Such a shame we will never have something like this happen again, RIP Steve :(
Drenwickification Mutual respect, yes. Friends? Not really. They were civil to each other, but also bitter rivals.
@@stewartplays They were known to be close friends. Microsoft in some way bailed out Apple from being under.
@@itsharibonphThey were absolutely NOT friends. Read Steve Jobs' biography if you want the real story
@@lukevenable356the Isaacson book had a lot of factual issues, with a major exception of the section about the development of the Mac 128K (which was basically written by Andy Hertzfeld with editing done by Isaacson). There were lots of ebbs and flows in their relationship, which is natural for fierce competitors in the same industry, but the fact is they did remain fairly close post 1997 for their respective positions.
The first time I met Steve, he threw me out of a moving limo. The next time I met him, he was always polite but seemed super pissed off.
Watching a cooperative interview with Tim Cook and Steve Ballmer wouldn't be nearly as wonderful as this. These two men had such an incredible competition and cooperation with one another that it's just profound, and impossible to imagine without witnessing it for yourself. These two men, collectively, have made technology into what it is today.
Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. These guys are two innovators and entrepreneurs which not only changed the way people communicate, do business, organize and work e.c.t., but also had a huge impact history on a global scale. I also think that they are two sides of the same coin, Steve Jobs is a pure inventor and a great leader, Bill gates understood all the technical aspects and is an innovator himself but a really admirable persistent entrepreneur and they truly complete each other, even as competitors! True geniuses!
Your comment is dead on. Jobs and Gates were/are the men who defined Strategic Innovation.
jóhann Leplat Mostly correct, but Jobs is a salesman, not an inventor. Apple has a team of engineers, always had, and Jobs was never part of that. He headed up teams like Macintosh project, but really the brains behind the innovation was in the engineers like Wozniak, jobs just marketed it.
On the other hand bill gates was an actual software engineer for a lot of microsofts earlier products!
@@thatguyontheright1 Brains behind the project? Sorry, but I have to disagree. Those guys may have coded it, but without Jobs, I don't think it would be anywhere as perfect as it was. Design matters. And Steve wasn't just a salesman. He was also a strategist, and a brilliant one at that.
@@vijaysundarrajan1785 pretty poor strategist since every Macintosh Model till the iMac failed to turn a profit.
I loved when one of the interviewers asked a question and Steve didn't want to answer it, so he just swiveled his chair and took a drink of water to indicate Bill should talk.
Subtle, Steve.
+Kevin Orzel lol timestamp? dont have enough time to watch
i think he's talking about 14:04
you found drama were there was none. the question was about microsoft in the early apple products. it was entirely appropriate for gates to answer. and after gates spoke, jobs went into further detail.
oooooh wow very very smart l loved his reaction so much hhhh
He was looking at Bill when asking that question
I LIKE THEM BOTH, I HAVE IPHONE AND WINDOWS PC
lordsith8319 Never.
exactly, who cares about a open source phone when those people don't know how to use it to the fullest extent and it's literally just a phone, whatever you can do on a phone you can do much more on a PC.
iPhones are fast, easy to use and very elegantly designed.
PCs are great for literally anything and everything
Not IPHONE it's iPHONE
And Windows it's all pc
Hah! Idiot
You're cool af
I like how it seems like sometimes they look at each other and know exactly what happened but if you play cool I will play cool type vibe. Its like don't make me look bad I wont make you look bad. They both have respect for eachother
They hated each other in the 80's.
I think youre right on some level but the honesty is still there. When Bill Gates describes the early Apple products he isn't nice about it.
Microsoft... good devices, good software. Apple.. good devices, good software. But what I'm really interested in is... I wanna have one of these chairs!
That makes two of us :)
chettee I really loved this video showing how both these guys are SO different..
how both people are doing the same things; but it is fascinating how both steve and gates look at the same things soo differently
-i think this vid was a lesson on lateral thinking, how to have multiple perspectives
apple is kinda going down hill. it started going down hill after steve jobs died.
Microsoft's old device was bullshit, especially phones. They just ruin the Nokia logo
😆😆
50:14 He knew it was gonna be all about Social Media even back then. He just didnt call it social media but he defined it. True visionary.
They also both thought video chat was for old people
"You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead". That sums it all. What he lived for, what he stood for, what he believed.
Most beautiful moment in tech community 1:09:48
Former friends, became two greatest rivals / company and decade later they both become great leaders that respect and care about eachother.
This interview is quickly becoming a cherished piece of history
Slowly.
that woman is terrible at interviews
idk why she was up there.
Agree bro
lithium2370 lolz she ruine everything.
Arc Ardeus yes she is a sour bitch
What did she do?
These men are so brilliant
They were already ahead of the stuff we have now, ten years later.
Both of them are just incredible.
Respect to these 2 men, they've left a mark on the world
Bill Gates still does.
@@Stryke607
Bill Gates is a TH-camr now
Microsoft Co. are lead by Satya Nadella
@@hoathuyetnhatnhat8919 So that explains why Windows is so terrible now. Windows Vista may been the only mistake by Gates. But i think its ten times better than Windows 10. Only thing worse than Windows 10 is Windows 8. Too bad they didnt stop at Windows 7. Thats when it was at its top
@@kejiri3593 It's not that terrible if you wait before updating to feature updates. The thing is people update feature updates right away when there are many bugs which break things. Just wait for 2 - 3 month, it's just a feature update not a security update
They are really friends? I see pirates of silicon valley their relationship live rivalry
Steve jobs takes the cake in clarity, humor, articulation. There is no match to him.
Steve's ability to quote the two of us the Beatles song is spot on here. Paul McCartney write that about his wife I believe. But Lennon often thought the lyric was about him. "two of us have memories, longer than the road that stretches out ahead". What a fitting way to summarise a relationship. Not just their, but all of ours.
It feels great to see jobs and bill standing together
Orcajy Z - sitting*
I can see Steve Jobs spends a lot of time before answering his questions and his answers are straight to the point 👍
Imagine being in the same room with these two giants, we are truly lucky to have lived and to be alive in this era. Thank you.
1:09:54 well that was emotional, that standing ovation was well deserved...simple moments of words but sums up a rivalry of business between friends in a couple words
Makes me smile to see these two together like this.
It's amazing how they simultaneously compete with and compliment each other at the same time! This is amazing. These are 2 of the most amazing geniouses of our time. It's an honor to see them discuss their respective companies and history of how they got off the ground, more or less.
You could see Steve thinking “iPad” and “iCloud” when he couldn’t talk about things, and Bill described Kinect almost to a tee.
Oh yeah, there is another interview Steve did with these two talking about putting the iPad project to the side because he saw they could make a phone out of the technology.
@@BackAlleyKnifeFighter Yeah he said he felt the phone was more important to do first.
The woman adds absolutely nothing to this interview besides interrupting everyone
I don't care what anyone says, the standing ovation gave me chills. We'll never see another interview like this again.
Steve Jobs @ 49:20 Is he thinking: "You are so wrong. It's already in my pocket."? :)
0:00 1983 Apple Event (October 1983, Macintosh Software Dating Game)
3:05 1991 Fortune Magazine Interview, Palo Alto, CA. (just 1 image, no voice)
3:30 1997 MacWorld Conference, Boston, MA.
4:44 Bill Gates getting a mixed reception from the MacWorld Conference audience
6:24 2005 All Things Digital, Carlsbad, CA.
6:48 2007 Together Here Now (D5 Conference, no location given)
14:30 Steve Jobs interrupts Bill Gates to tell a story
Respect
I have to say, it's absolutely amazing to watch these 2 fathers of the computing industry, being in their element and explaining what the near and far future of Technology is going to be. If we look at what we have now, what we use everyday, it's mind blowing to see how close, if not spot on, they got it right.
OmarSabsabi I actually think it's fascinating how wrong they got many things.
Being born in 1992, able to get a grasp of DOS PCs wherein you would need a diskette to run the program, experienced the leap in performance when pentium 4 came out, played playstation 1, and now watching this video on a snapdragon 660 powered device. It's just amazing how technology has come a long way from bits of data to billions of calculations per second just to watch this video while typing this comment simultanoeusly. Thank you, for these 2 gentleman who shaped our world and paved the way for what has to come. Thank you.
- Writing this down on my Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 4/128. 10 years from now, folks would know we use this primitive devices that we currently think is a tech breakthrought. Cheers. - Jerico, 2019
Amazing how back in 2007 these two were foretelling the future of technology and how much of what was spoken has come to pass.
It's almost as if these are the guys who made that happen......
All these people commenting, I think they either didn't actually watch the interview or they couldn't comprehend it.
Yes. I truly couldn’t comprehend it.
A lot of it is fanboys wanting to claim who "won" the interview or something. Stuff that Bill or Steve (RIP) would cringe at.
those guys changed the world in a way that was really hard to imagine back in the 70´s
These hosts were pretty much horrible in their own ways.
Yeah, they're so bad.
Steve and Bill were talking about a future that we currently live in, while the hosts seemed to be struggling to comprehend the ideas. I don't know if I could necessarily blame them since a lot of this stuff wasn't so intuitive to imagine in 2007, but some of their comments just seemed so pointless
These guys can do stuff i'll never ever dream of doing. Crossing their legs !
like a messi and ronaldo in the same team
I know Right lol
Amazing 🤩
Who's Messi in this? Lol
@@veteranopsiquico a best soccer or football player
Except fortunately they are not because they do so much more thn kick a stupid ball for a living?
Steve Job's vision for the future is fantastically accurate. Incredible mind.
JCLS Remember, you were one of the first too see it !
Yeah he sure knew where to put his bets... I don't think they would have made the Apple Watch if he was still around. They really claimed that thing to be the "next big thing" lol
Yer Bum
It’s doing really well.
He’s doing awesome on Mars 😁
Yer Bum I mean it’s not the next best thing by any revolutionary sense but it was a successful product...
watching this 10 years from now on a MacBook air. life is miraculous. so inspiring, 2 geniuses who just want to do better in the things that they love so others can love it too.
What the hell is this woman tried to brought to this interview ?????? she was lost ant tried so hard to show her self....what a shame for her...
What the hell is this woman trying to bring* to this interview?* She* was lost and* tried so hard to be visible*...
What* a disappointment* for her
Yep
@@agentg0215 she wrote Mexican English.....stop. correcting others you douchebag!
@Jerry Bryant Thank you Jerry, that was fun!!! this lesson I will make sure to learn :)
Most of women are like that
This woman has NO idea abouthis industry. Steve & bill were gracious .How embarrassed she will be when she figures it out.
EseChava 22 got her, only 5 years late
This woman is THE Kara Swisher. Be grateful she made this moment happen for all of us to relish in eternity.
AllthingsD was founded by her who hosted and masterminded this meet!
I've never thought I'd be so irritated with the interviewers but this marks a special case. I came here to see Steve Jobs and Bill Gates regarding their insight but the interviewers, especially the lady, makes the most rude, redundant and illogical comments/questions. I had thought many times about turning off the interview just because of them. Also, if they're gonna criticize or ask controversial questions, do it in a semantic and reasonable way. this isn't an inquisition, it's a freaking interview. Lastly, the interviewers need to get their freaking ego out and really acknowledge the fact that we're here to see Steve and Bill, not fucking Mossberg and the lady. I have never been so frustrated about the ones conducting the interview.
She's like that in every one of these videos. She's utterly unintelligent and acts like a bitch, but they just keep on bringing her back year after year.
It's because of Walt Mossberg. They're married or in a really close relationship. Pretty shitty if you ask me.
Kyu Ho Lee the male interviewer is considerably more irritating. I totally agree though. I don’t know why these people thought it was *their* moment. They need to shut the fuck up!
Kara is asking great questions. Most interviewers would be completely tongue tied. And mind you the company AllthingsD was founded by her and Walt - so thank them for this moment captured in history!!
I think Mossberg did ok. But yea Kara Swisher was awful in this interview IMO.
Microsoft=Best technical functionality, Apple= Best story and marketing
14:34 sums it up pretty good
Can you imagine these drop out guys changed the world literally! Im a Steve Jobs fan but huge respect with Gates as well. Im quite amazed by these two. They are like friends in a competition. And you can see all the while they have mutial respect to each other.
Unlike the interviewers, eh?
These aren't sport teams. You don't need to pick sides.
Everyone is going on and on about how iconic this is.. But I just think it’s fascinating what the industry leaders thought about what path technology would take in 2007 right before the iPhone came out. It’s cool to see what they got right and wrong.
41:04 -- App Store, Itunes, Mac Desktop + Clients (Mac, Iphone, iPod, Ipad, etc.)--> all combined together in the apple ecosystem. That is the marriage what he is talking about.
nice hearing brilliant minds engaging in historical conversation.
They are both geniuses and pioneers. They both respect each other. I own a pc, and have an iPhone and iPad. Hats off to these guys!
watching this on UBUNTU
Soumyo Mukherjee me too lol
The Homebrew Critique yuck
u mean ubontu
Enjoy Ubuntu spying on u
same
A Historic interview. Two pioneers of the information age. I wish Steve lived to see this day.
It hasn't change that much since he pass away. He had change it so dramatically that big change can hardly come to the industry in next 10 -20 years
Can we just agree that these are both great companies led by two brilliant guys?
These interviewers are terrible.
Primetime Pranks I thought this was a dumb comment until I got to around 40:00
IronMike haha "so you are saying..." "what I'm saying is WHAT I JUST SAID"
Most dumbest comment in youtube
The two most powerful computer nerds once were under a single roof like buddies?...my mind just blew up.
at minute 50, when Steve said he didn't know what's going to be on a pocket device, he sure knew, or at least had many ideas of what's pocket devices would be like, he thought a while and decided not to give out his vision to the future, which was a smart move.
Well ya lol
rip steve jobs
I'm a Microsoft fanboy myself, but I can't deny that Steve Jobs also innovated in many areas of computing and software. Sometimes I wonder what it would've been like if Steve and Bill formed a company together.
You have clearly missed the entire point. You being a "fanboy" is in complete contradiction to what they said the entire time. They have helped each other immensely, picking a "side" is stupid.
Bless both their souls for bringing us to where we are today in technology. R.I.P Steve. You will always be remembered. Hope to see you again some day on the other side with a few more of your brilliant ideas. :-)
As for some of the nasty comments on here, it's a real pity what the world is coming to. Wow! Some of your parents did a very very poor job teaching you to have just a bit of respect and decency. I hope you grow out of it and try to become better human beings, even if just a little bit.
i allways favored bill gates over steve job's .. but im humbled by the achievements of both
thx for sharing this interview
Maybe the woman was weak in asking questions and supporting the conversation. But the old guy had been 'helping' her a lot with it. He'd been interrupting her almost after each of her questions and in general behaved as if he were conducting an interview alone.
Steve is great!
Absolutely! Lots of mansplaining alot.
2000: Steve Jobs and Bill Gates
2012: Steve Ballmer and Stephen Elop
They are so entertaining! Intelligent, expressive, witty and charismatic.
Everyone bashing the interviewers should know that this would have never happened if it weren't for them. Mossberg knew Jobs personally and got him to agree to all of the previous All Things D interviews as well. Steve Jobs typically never did conferences like this but made a special exception.
Great, they should work to organise more events and stay out of interviewing
It’s funny to thing about the imaginary competition between Apple and Microsoft, at least from the customer point of view, but in reality these two companies have been working together almost from the beginning. You can see how Steve talks respectfully about Gates and his team, and recognize how they even asked them for support at different stages of the company
Love the little jabs Steve throws at Bill.
43:00 best question: 48:30 bill goes into detail about the future mobile device as Steve Jobs nods jos head with approval like yupp gonna add those features to the iPhone as well, please continue to provide the blueprints Bill, so aware but unaware 🤔
The common theme in this video is “five years from now”...Who would have thought, five years from the moment of this video (2007) Steve Jobs would no longer be with us...
Two great guys that change the world. Thank you guys.
This is the equivalent of 2 Pac and The Notorious B.I.G
Who are they?
YEP.
@@DannyHsn SHUT THE FUCK UP. lol
@@iTzShakenJoE u mad kid?
@Jerry Bryant ahahahahahahahaha you're mad does your mom know you have her phone kid
I come back to this video now and then. Each time, I increasingly appreciate their perspective, and so much of which is still relevant today.
It would be great to edit this and just leave Gates and Jobs interventions.
I may hate Apple and never was a fan of Steve Jobs as a person, but he was one hell of a smart dude who certainly helped push a lot of great ideas forward. I'm glad that we at least still have one of these two guys around these days, even if he's resting on his laurels (though deservedly so).
Daniel Babineau Bill Gates is certainly not resting on his laurels. He has shifted his focus from computing to philanthropy, but he continues to work his ass off to achieve his goals.
It’s very sad to believe that an average TikTok video has 50-70 M views and this masterpiece has only 2M
TH-cam score 20 sec as 1 view. TikTko scores 1 sec as 1 view. 2 million times 20 = 40 million
Such a beautiful moment in modern history, gates and jobs are the pioneers of modern life, watching how they speak to each other and get along is so great, thanks for this upload its really inspiring.
I miss Steve Jobs. He was a genius!
i usually watch short 5-10 min videos while i am having my breakfast but this one it took 130 min and i enjoyed every second of it
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i know :P
So interesting hearing them talk about "flexible devices" and "projection devices" as the future of smartphones and now today we're seeing this happen in real time. They both could see a decade into the future when it came to technology.
Very historical interview with the most brilliant mind on the Globe but unfortunately this historical moment was made by 2 non professional Journalists with poor communication skills
0.:51:05 steve just lost his shit there
I think he was so sick with his concert and may it Influenced on him
That's because there are no journalists on this planet with the minds to communicate on par with Gates and Jobs.
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She sucks. Momentum killer.
Steve Areno It is Witch, Bitch, Woman inBLACK DRESs for SURE !
Pretty cool when you hear them describe what would be come iPads, later generation iPhones, and even Xbox One.
Those interviewers are just dying to get steve and bill to start a ruckus with each other. I'm glad both of them shared such a healthy perspective with one another and avoided the drama.
One minute of silence for these 2 legends, revolutionists of this era
you know that Gates is still alive, right?
1:15 I never saw Steve smile so broadly
I admire them so much. Great people in the Computer Industry.
Love this video.Two ceo's and richest people in the world in one roof.Really historic moment
Steve jobs understood consumer behavior like out of the world.
most amazing couple of all time;
the two gods who shaped how today's world works and the interviewers can't even keep up with the vision bill and steve have for ourworld!
I think bill is more honest at giving answers
Daniela Semere More honest, less flashy. Kind of sums them up, to be honest.
Phone wise I will always have my iPhone... I love it. Computer wise PC will always reign supreme. Love both softwares.
"apple is like a ship with a hole ......and my job is to point it in the right direction" lol .....epic!
It's kinda sad that Steve Jobs doesn't get the chance to see how it's gonna be 10 years from 2007.
elle2310, no he’d be disappointed. Or, Apple wouldn’t be selling these ridiculously over-priced phones. A bit over-priced is ok, but if it’s ridiculous and greedy like Tim, then I can’t tell you shit.
"lets go invent tomorrow instead of worrying about yesterday.."
Knowing what we know now, it almost scary to think 10 years ago both of their predictions were mostly correct and on point.
1 - Curve Screens, Internet TV & cars (smart cars?)
2 - Robotics (hardware) and AI (Software) integration in warehouse & factory
3 - E-ink & voice, on portable devices e.g. Amazon Kindle
4 - Cloud computing - so to off load computing power on local machines
5 - Daily driver - Smartphone form factor as 'read / portable' device (Steve) while larger bulkier 'Pro' machine for 'write device' (Bill e.g. edit your homework or movie on Surface Pro tablet) and the distinction between Consumer & Enterprise market complementing each other e.g. Windows server to offload computer power for today's smartphones whilst using the internet
6 - Rely third party apps to drive market direction e.g. introduction of App Store
7 - Symbiotic relationship between hardware and software - Bill's future believes in more Hardware, Steve's future believes in more software
8 - More internet access will expand their customer base (consumer or Enterprise alike) - "age of digital life"
9 - More competitions is a "healthy period" of growth & inventions in the tech businesses. Sign of high risk also means 'potentially' high returns
10 - Ultimate product category - Convergence between Consumer & Enterprise feature into a single device i.e. fold-able/ roll up screen in portable form factor.
11 - Mobile apps + cloud computer can be utilised way better than browser apps e.g. google maps with richer client experience on lower power devices (software + services company)
12 - Internet based services to surround your life more efficiently e.g. we now calls it netflix, Uber, deliveroo, whatsapp, iDrive & etc.
13 - real world object recognition (google glass?)
14 - Seniors embracing tech so to get in touch with their children using touch instead of keyboards
15 - VR & digital interaction
Unfortunately, Steve never lived to see what really happened 10 years after this recording 1:29:03
Steve Jobs seems like he had seen the future and he was right with his prediction. His answers were more clear than Bill Gates
Good comedy in comments but nothing to do with what they are talking about. The success of Microcomputers is partially due to servicability. Tablets and smartphones are pretty much disposable computers. Laptops aren't much different but they are slightly servicable. Desktops have parts readily available and they are easy to repair and upgrade. I am on a desktop right now.
Laptops also have a battery issue, power inverters blow out the fuse in my car and my laptop battery runs out in an hour or so. Maybee I need a "post pc device".
welcome to 2021
@@techwithwhiteboard3483 now the phone seems to work better with chrome cast than my computer when I watch movies. I’m actually on my phone now.
It's scary how accurate bill's predictions of the future are. I know it's just five years but still thats alot in the computer business. Its easy to see the reason why he's so successful :)
I really hope this ruined the female interviewer's career, Those dumb comments and questions are a real sore on this interview.
Unfortunately she was brought back year after year for this. People think she was sleeping with the host.
Agret That would make sense, as she sure isn’t there because of talent or ability. Such a wasted opportunity.