Dale Cregan: Moved From Strangeways To Ashworth Hospital!
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they may release him to make room for those nasty people who shouted hurty words at a police horse.
😂😂 i highly doubt he will ever be released, he would only be released into a fucking hole in the ground 😂😂😂😂😂
40% of a whole life tariff is...... Oh yeah it's still a whole life tariff ........ Poor old Dale ....
@@DavidHodkinson-ps1cb that means nothing to stammers Labour Party
Hurty words? The woman called for Mosques to be burnt down with people in them.
Yeah horses are dick heads tho
I was in a band that did 2 Christmas gigs for the patients in Ashworth in 1991 and 92. Strange experience, audience seemed mostly medicated. We got talking to a genial young guy who played guitar and had a real interest in the band. We didn’t realise he was a patient because he seemed perfectly normal. However, he had actually murdered his family and had been judged to be kept ‘at Her Majesty’s pleasure’. We learned his ability on guitar was actually quite incredible and the pressure he was put under to keep exceeding his skills had sent him over the edge. He was also extremely intelligent. Maybe if he’d been left to grow his skills at a natural pace events would have been different.
Psychiatric nurse here - used to work in forensics. Met a lot of high profile people. Its can be an exciting job; but the novelty wears off. It desensitized me in the long run. I decided to leave and work with the general public instead. Its a difficult job to do. Some people are genuinely unwell and need to be in hospital, others just belong in prison. It makes it difficult to do your job and not be judgemental etc. i had guys from Cat A on no meds, that had no business being in hospital. i dont think anyone should work in these environments for too long though its not very healthy. Secure units are not fun, most of my patients preferred prison and wanted to go back. Its extremely tedious and if you dont get along with the staff youre in for a long ride. Doing 10+ years on a secure locked ward is no joke
I used to work with folks assessed as having challenging behaviour. I am so grateful to staff on shifts. Management not so much.
Commending you here & all of you for this work & the service you're providing & those before you !! I'm not in this area myself but I have a degree in another area of vulnerable people or at risk etc wraparound services !! I have one thing came to mind here if someone wants to do the "insane person" rigmarole ... " THE ONE WHO FLEW OVER THE CUCKOOS NEST" ... meaning it's not what's cracked up to be & if they are taking the piss then they're taking a space of someone who is in urgent need of such a form of treatment and that's showing once again the attitude of " don't you know who I think I am" ... and this applies to anyone who is playing the game to 1) flex their ego 2) control over their own outcomes ... thanks folks and they are ignorantly doing something they more than ever don't want to participate in or with so the timer will tick in their ability to get back to the prison - circle will go round again... regardless of their wants !! Appreciate your work and the video too hugs 🫂❤️
I ran him to him once and he was a complete gentleman with me while I was doing my job. Couple of weeks after that he did what he did. The mind boggles!!!
Great vlog as always this educational and intriguing look into how high risk individuals like the individual you refer to are managed in a hospital environment and a eyeopening look into the regulations that need to be followed in such places thanks for providing your unique perspective on these sort of subjects you really do allow us to gain a view of What essentially is a closed world Which in turn allows us as a community to form a Greater understanding of such places above all else your helping lots of people I really appreciate your work
Thank you for giving out this info ❤
Hiya mate the idea that a professional only shows enthusiasm when it's an infamous prisoner astounds me. That is the epitome of "scumbag" in my opinion. Brilliant work big fella I love this channel. Pete 🏴
Sam.
Your voice has a really soothing, calming effect.
Thank you❤
He sounds like a criminal
I really enjoy your videos. God bless you mate
I worked at Broadmoor Special Hospital for 13 years. You're spot on with this report.
How is it in there?
any real nutters in there ?
I knew a fellow that used to work there he's name was Peter he left he was a nurse he's friend got murdered in there he was a nurse do you remember him it was years ago
@@iain4918 Was he a nurse ?
@@iain4918 no
He must be careful in places like that.
Someone might take his bloody eye out.😂
An eye for an eye
EYE EYE
@@piledriverpotter9847 piledriver,a great racehorse.
I heard he's lost his glass eye and now walking about with a pool ball stick in his head.
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King......
Can they put starmer in the mental hospital right now
Please 😂
🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
in a permanent straight jacket!
Maybe you'll be enjoying life with your far right out.
Don't say that he might be offended
Absolute bell end. Unfortunately, our paths crossed a few times over the years. Watching him be all gangster with anybody who couldn't stand up for them self's
I've heard he's a 🔔.
@@MichaelParkinson-wz1nhyoooo this is your life Michael Parkinson 😂
tell me more im from droylsden 👍
@@jamiebrooks3864 he wasn't all Gangster he was just a 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@KeepItRea7 I ain't heard that before, come on can't u do better than that 😆😆.i heard that when I was six, I'm 51 now 😆😆.
Enjoying the garden while you can....good stuff !!
Wow what a quality channel. Subscribed my man 👊
Poor old Dale imagine spending the rest of your life in cushy mental hospital with food water and a nice warm bed with people c leaning and looking after you and all sorts of recreational activities ......... As compared to spending the rest of your life in a shit hole prison ............
Are you his mate 😂😂😂😂😂
@@DavidHodkinson-ps1cb isn't it full of screaming lunatics and genuinely dangerous people ? I am not so sure it's a cushy option
You clearly haven't got a clue about mental health prisons. They ain't cushy and have the most violent prisoners in the system
Did you not listen to what the formed prison officer just said there not all holiday camps you will take meds anti psychotics that pile weight on and cause serious health problems in a state run mental hospital were real dangerous people are unpredictable psychopaths .
Quite clear you have no understanding of the reality of the High Secure Mental Hopsitals
Perfect example to bring back capital punishment!!!!
what would that achieve ?
Save probably about 10 million pounds over his life.
@@milsub59 My taxes not having to fund the c nut
@@milsub59 Life valued for victims, and save thousands, and is cruel, as you would not lock up an animal for life. Best end things than to be inhumane, the only problem is the system makes for innocent people to be imprisoned, in some cases
@@Liverpool-s5n Oh yeh, what happens when they execute an innocent person?
Moved again, I remember you telling us he was moved to the nuthouse previously, he’s one fantastic example for those who seek the reintroduction of capital punishment. Always a pleasure to catch your uploads Sam and best wishes.🙏📚☘️
Well said sam v informative n interesting
My dad had a ford focus for scrap with 1 light missing that I called Dale 🤣🤣
Funny 😅
Last prison I was in loads of lads were taking anti psyche meds, quitiepine was common usually low doses to help people sleep, mirtazapine was another common one prescribed in jail, strong anti depressant. Addictive drugs them but the prisons are over prescribing... once cons finally get to see a doctor that is.
When my boyfriend died i didn’t eat for 10 days and i was fine. I wasn’t hungry even after all that time. I could easily have gone longer without food. I was going to work as usual all that time.
A prisoner doesn’t need a doctor or hospital or psychiatrist for skipping eating for 3 days. Ridiculous!
Good point. People can fast for weeks as long as they take fluid...
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree rest in peace bless
People normally report a huge upturn in mood after 3 days without food. Some people even report euphoria. At that point, hunger dissipates and your body produces ketones which have amazing health benefits. The lack of appetite after extreme trauma may be a natural response evolved to benefit the person after a trauma
Crack smokers go longer with no food they are fine ffs
Top man sam love listening to you because what u say is always true. Take care pal
I think that anybody who connived to get transferred from a regular prison to a secure hospital, would come to regret it very quickly.
Peter Sutcliffe is a prime example, one who comes to mind
Ronnie kray was much happier in the nut house!
Thank you, big bear. Hope you're well.
Labour are the most dangerous government the UK has ever had
Come on lad they are all under one umbrella it doesn't matter what name the puppet masters put in charge they all serve the same agenda
Wat a bell end 😅
@@GiuseppeDimarco-qm6bw who ?
@@GiuseppeDimarco-qm6bw what are they doing so well then?
@@samhodgins9804 wtf where is my original comment replying to this tosser
As someone from the other side, everything you say is true.
I would always consult staff like yourself when doing assessments to get a 360 of the inmate e.g talking to himself 24/7 and not just when noticed.
I like to think high secure specialises in assessments dealing with extreme behavioural presentations, cunningness and manipulation. Oftentimes
there is a high index of suspicion to not admit but rather to watch and wait.
Eatings ones faeces, writing in blood on the wall or hunger strikes were not usually shortcuts to admission.
And yet others seemed to have their own momentum and logic to admission... as if they had to come to us... how could they not?
One thing to note is that we can also just admit certain inmates on an assessment/treatment order and return them back to prison after a relatively short time.
I spent years with Dale in ashworth I no all there secretive filthy little secrets I can't wait to expose that place once and for all ,and Dale only likes ashworth for one reason he's actually believe it or not hero worshipped in there by the crazies they live what he done and they surround him and beg for his attention like he's a rockstar but in frankland he was a pussy who got into a spice debt even the junkies wouldn't pay him so he ran off to the seg to start another hunger strike to get bk ,absolute coward I used to work out with him in the gym wanted to no his insight found alot of mad shit aswell take care mate
In any job, nobody asks the shop floor staff, that's why everything is a mess, because shop floor usually have the answers rather than the overlords
So well put 💞💞💞
Complete fasting requires zero food intake or it becomes starvation and not fasting. To last 84 days he was most definitely consuming proteins and carbohydrates that are solid at some point. The Body enters Ketosis after 72 hours of water fasting. But eating any small amount of Carbohydrates will bring you out which is then starvation. A very dangerous state to be in. Ps: I’m a Joe Bloggs from Salford haha. I did a four and a half in my younger years. Hindley Hotel.
Great video and good insight to the other side as I always thought just of the positive side of going to a mental hospital instead of prison.
The guy is a legend
Creegan never getting out .Waste of fresh air !
Totally agree with everything you said Sam I work in a medium secure mental health unit like prison it can be a very unpredictable and closed world to the public
I'm on an antipsychotic and Lithium and can agree the weight gain is so bad but to keep sane and stable it's a must I've switched to another antipsychotic of late as it has less weight gain but if it keeps me out of those mental hospitals of which I've been in 4 I'll take the meds.
Iv just been diagnosed as schizophrenic the milder type iv been prescribed anti psychotics but scared to take the due to weight gain and making you drowsy
@leemccccccc999 they have there side effects but not everyone gets them weight gain and zombie like states are common across the board though. If you need them you need them though hopefully they work for you.
@@ChristineParkinson-ek1ll was on that coming off it now on aripiprazole more tolerable for me personally
@@JAG2024-j4j good luck to you x
Im on Antipsychotic tablets yes put weight on but if you train hard eat well it's good I thought I didn't need them once but never again I'll take them until otherwise
Some years ago I watched a documentary on broadmoor and it did look way more cushty than regular jails seem to in alternative documentaries. One guy was in a room with carpet, bookshelves, DVDs, pictures, big TV, games systems, wallpaper, regular psychiatrist visits. It looked like a massive step up from what Ive seen of prison if Im been honest. No wonder Cregan would miss a few meals for the chance to go there instead 😂
Worked in many prisons, and some down right evil. Ashworth is a strange one, even the housing estate that is for security, so deafly silent. Cregan should have been in Ashworth or Broadmoor a long time ago, preferably the latter to have his other eye taken out, as with Sutcliffe
If you ain't registered your chickens, you'll get his place in strangeways .
The bio security state....not many people know what's actually happening
Hi sam i have watched loads of ur videos rigt from the beginning and i have enjoyed them so much i haven't been on hear for a while threw me not being to well mentally i have been looking afrer my nana atvtge same time wow its tough wen u have mental illness and u have to look after ur family but i always get threw it some how i am starting to feel better in myself so i am starting to o watch ur videos again i hope ur ok and ur family is ok too ur a really nice guy very humble and ur that dort of guy if people treat u good u treat them good top top man anyway on to this video politics yeah ur right alot of prisoners go to mental health hospitals just to get out of been in a proper prison but some r really poorly and not putting it on i would rather have my freedom than all this it beggars belief how some people get were they r and what they do ur right about the medication putting weight on you i use to take promazine and wow the weight i put on was unbelievable anyway gr8 contents all the best sam stay safe and a massive godbless to you mate,👌🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😉🤛,
Im on antipsychotics made me put loads of weight on slowed my life down makes me feel drained don't want to wake up or do anything
Iv just been diagnosed with schizophrenia and just been prescribed anti psychotics iv not touched them out of fear
@pinacmediauk7453 antipsychotics are horrible medications, I've been off them for a while thankfully. Good luck 👍
Don't take the meds....... Similar story. Exercise,low sugar diet,try keep life simple as possible. Antipsychotics no good.
Don't blame you I am a size 10 women and had anorexia,weight gain is my worst nightmare I saw what they did to my sister as she is schizophrenic as was a really pretty women soon as she went on antipsychotics her size 8 figure soon went out the window.
one flew over the cuckoos nest but with a vile actor
The thing that annoys me is ( you must of seen this Sam more times than you can remember). These high profile cases that make the news. They get sent to a hospital because they’re ill. Most of these people are just c-ts. Whilst the people that are actually ill get put on the main wings or healthcare if their lucky. Whilst it’ll be you and your fellow govs that have to look after them. I’ve lost count of how many people I’ve seen walking around the exercise yard shouting at themselves. One time I guy came out his cell stark bollock naked screaming at everyone not to drink the water as they’re trying to kill us all. We said to this screw who was fresh out of school and still wet behind the ears, when is he going to healthcare? He said to us what are we doctors? Well you don’t need to be a doctor to see he’s unwell.
Thanks Sam. 🙏
Really good honest vlog brother 👍
Great story Sam carry on fella 👍😊🙏
Great info Sam very interesting
What a creature
Come on Samantha that's my uncle you're talking about here
@@KeepItRea7That's nothing to brag about weirdo......Obviously a family full of 'creatures'......
@@KeepItRea7That's nothing to brag about bellend...... Obviously a family full of 'creatures'......
@@KeepItRea7That's really nothing to brag about - bell-end....
@@nicolelillis2077 who's bragging you nonce ?
God Bless you too, Sam. Very interesting blog. I think it’s a crying shame/scandal nobody has been able to come up with anti psychotics which don’t have these appalling side effects.
Creagan is a coward who unfortunately survived after handing himself in after ending those two young women, how the police restrained themselves after finding out what he’d done to their comrades I’ll never know
@@fastbandit1250 he's not that bad
were all allowed to have a bad day
Dale rang the police for help before it all went down as he was being terrorised by the shorts. The police told him to fuck off so Dale took matters into his own hands. He done Clayton a favour.
No, he's not a coward. Yes, how did the police restrain themselves? After all, they are well known to beat up on people ain't they? There are many of coppers that are fired or put in prison.
@@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733were the shorts that bad?
New meaning to the term 'black eye'
They’re have to make sure they keep an eye on him…
Any self respecting nation would just still have capital punishment.
Maybe a little bit upset 😢😂😂😂 belter Sam
One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest springs to mind.
Is that a Red rose on your arm Mr Samworth ? Thought you would have a Yorkshire White one LOL? Great and insightful vid as always :)
poppy
Poppy he’s ex armed forces
Brilliant video Sam
I bought a car of dale it broke down on the way home lol😂
I bet you only one headlight 👁️worked on it as well.
Lol
Did you ask for your money back? 😂😂😂😮
@@Danny.bensham no lol we were only kids at the time and it was only 250 between 3 of us it was a shed haha
@@jaydentate6080 I know the type well 😂🙈
Sam i worked at Prestwich hospital / Hotel . They would go out the windows day or night or even the front door in dressing gowns to Tescoe s in the carpark or to the petrol station ,Then come back with brandy and chocolates and wine ,Party every night . It made my life easier .
Big up Grasmere ward 🎉
Thanks Sam.
I served in the female estate in the South East for over 12 years, and the politics based around social cliques was extremely damaging, and involved governor grades down to OSGs. Corrupt staff were able to crack on, if your face didn't fit, life was very unpleasant there.
Do you have any stories about Ronnie Pickering?
From what ive heard he keeps going back and to hospital to prison vice versa not sure if its true .
Capital punishment comes to mind Sam
Good day to you mr s
Bronson was famously put on the psyche ward and he even admitted that was what broke him. Drugged into a point he could barely function with the deranged or more solitary for company.
He said he would take a life in Broadmoor over a year in Ashworth.
I guess those were different times but there is no way One Eye Jack will have a nice stay.
Very interesting and well explained. Subbed !
Did Jimmy Quiment take over from Jimmy Savile ?
Yeh he also didnt want to stay in strangeways after what he did to Short family.
The 59 bus stops outside strange ways prison go passed it every day ❤
wow
Sam did you see Dale cregan when you worked in the prison system ?
Sounds like he was playing a game with the authorities…in his distorted soul 🙏
A prison is a prison within a prison within a prison.... ❤
Sounds like he’s just booked himself a place in the “Twighlight zone” let’s just hope it’s everything he imagined it not to be.
We need to see more of Brian
12 years working in a forensic unit, it leavess a stain on your soul. Never seen a psychiatrist or psychologist do anything for a patient but they loved the power and acted like demi gods .
84 days without food , he must have felt as healthy as ever the food we eat is killing us so not a bad thing at all plenty people do it
I worked at Ashworth hospital for a few years and worked with dale a lot, the staff treat him like a king for some reason
How did you handle that situation?
@@martinheath5947 It made me cringe, at the end of the day he's not a celebrity he's done very bad things. I used to go in and do my job and treat him the same as the rest of the patients
Think this lies sadly
@@j.wwilson4866 think what you want, not assed about your opinion
@@j.wwilson4866 think what you want, not assed about your opinion
Hello Sam, hope all is well mate. Do u think England will ever bring back the Death Penalty. Happy Days. 👍🇺🇸🗽🇬🇧👍
I wonder what made him so messed up..i remember seeing he was mega proud of getting hold of grenades then anyone who he had beef with it was end of the world
Dale cregan is a hero free him😔
Good vid Sam when are you going to write your next book
Samworth (Sorry dude i dont know your first name)- question for you: Would there ever be a position that Dale could be in.. where he could an interview?
Anti physotics have done all sorts of permanent damage to me
I heard he was on a 'ghost train' being moved around prisons around the country so no one knew where he was?
He's blagged it to have an easier life been known for ages this
Should be moved to a different planet.
My ex was a mental health professional, specifically criminals, those places are like butlins. It's a joke considering the lives he destroyed. Soft on crime and the causes of crime as always.
never heard a prison story about him from any Cat A in the years he has been in, must be in hospital whole time blagging it.
Hi sam do you still have ALIAN , the new dog has big Paws ,
Who the hell would want to visit that 🔔 end.
Ive fasted for 14 days before, humans can go months without food, as long as you drink water and electrolytes (salt), you can last month easily, thats why fat is stored, ....
He's taking the piss.
I met a lad inside that said cregan was a nobody who did what he did to get away from the big boys who were gonna do him in. Might be rubbish but you never know
In Epsiode Riseing Damp Called, Food Glorious Food, Risby Went On Hunger Strike For 48 Hrs, Even Though He Ate Vivenna food (The Boys Left Overs From The Week & The Sausage From Alan Dinner, Flowers He Ate) So If He Can Do It Anybody Can 🙄😂
Does he now qualify for benefits?
Yes if in hospital
Ffs...how can that possibly be???@gdcodurham.
That's a joke. I went on hunger strike for a nail clippers, in 🇮🇪. It was pork curry. I was starving. I was blocked off. I launched my cornflakes ,rice crisps, out the door.1.50pm. I got a nail clippers off the gouvonour and my beef curry. So ah hour and 45 mins, I won💪 ✔ april 2022 👍... never going back either ✔ but that's hunger strike for ye lol😂😂😂🙈🙈
Hi Sam ❤
He's done 12 years now, think he has about 12 months left before he's out in public, watch this space
Whole life 12 months aye?
He should never see the light of day
Hes never coming out lol
He's doing a whole life sentence pal
@@JustDaniel6764 I hope so, just uncertain of anything with the current government!
Are y keeping well sam hop you are OK 👍 one❤ from me
Eyeing up an life inside …
If he was black there still be riots in england 😂