I'm a beginner pianist and practising the trills on sonatina op 36 no1 2nd movement, and this is my first time to encounter the trills thanks for the techniques it made the trills simple and much easier to learn!!.
wow -- this explanation is really clear! sometimes i can play a whole piece except for one problem -- ending those darn trills. and if you like playing classical and baroque pieces, you're in big trouble. i just applied this method to the three trills in a bach sinfonia (#2-Cm) and it works! i was always insecure about ending the trills; now i finally have an idea how to do so gracefully. there's room for improvement but it's a promising start. thank you, robert!
This video is great! I'm no pianist at all... I wanted to play John Field's first sonata (E flat), I downloaded the score off the web, I was very confused because the record I had started with a bundle of notes, I couldn't see them on the score ... then I noticed it said "tr" above the first note :) Doh! :) A trill! But I was really struggling to know exactly what notes to play and when. This video really helped.
I playing Bach's courante in C minor ,and i am practicing the trill starting with the uper note,my teacher told me it was a mistake,but in the fist page of the book this is exactly what they write .Thank you for making it more clear for me!
In the movie The Pianist (Chopin Nocturne in C sharp minor) the camera very slowly moves from the keyboard up to the face of Adrian Brody-so you can see that it's him playing. But he does the trills so well. Then he comments on how he learned the piano for this movie and how it made him grow as a person. I just can't believe he could learn so well in the time it took to put the movie together.
Thank you! I'm in a level 6 stuff and, no one, ever taught me to trill! And that Mozart piece is what I'm working on, as well as the Adagio from Beethoven. Phew.
Thank you, the song that I was having trouble with was the sonata in c major, and the exact part you were talking about was the part I was struggling on. Thank you so much!
Trills can be the hardest skills to master especially if you are also trying to play the main notes at the same time. Even sometime you have to trills with the fourth and the fifth fingers (not the ideal fingers for trilling) while your other three fingers are trying to hold a long note. As seen in HR 12 's Stretta Vivace, the Lassen section of HR 2. Also, it is very easy to forget to play the trills, as I done that a lot of time when I first had a go at HR 12 Allegreto Giocoso intro section.
Pls help me I can't combine left and right hand parts when it comes to trill, I'm losing measure and can't concentrate on left hand's play (almost can't hear it). I really need to learn it any advice you can give is good (sorry for bad english)
i was trying to learn how to do trills and the song that he gave us an example of, the Sonata, is the song that i am actually learning right now, what a coincidence 😂
Thanks Robert, I learn so much from your excellent teaching style. I'm still a beginner, my life ambition is to play the aria from The Goldberg Variations. I'm giving myself 5 years. Sounds a long time but I'm going to do it. Thanks again.
I'm learning the Hungarian Rhapsody No 2 and I have been getting into cadenzas and 32nd notes and I am always having trouble practicing those parts. Do you have any tips?
Practice slowly with a metronom and get faster Of course keep the time intervals clean and watch your fingering And practice a lot That's at least what I did :)
Currently learning to play Bach's first Invention in C major. Not only is it super difficult for me to learn the polyphonic rhythm of the song, it's also riddled with quick trills. I feel like I'm wrecking my fingers because I'm not doing it lightly enough -- my technique is too heavy and clumsy. I want to be able to do it with less weight to make it more graceful for both the fingers and the ears. I also want to learn to play quicker trills, so that I can turn my current, three-note trill (two 1/64 notes + 1/16 with a dot [= 1/8 long trill]) to a four-note trill (three 1/64 notes + 1/16 with a 1/64 attached to it [=1/8 long trill]). It's of course both about dexterity of the fingers and the technique I use, but I'm getting there, I think. Sorry in advance for not knowing how to translate notes to English text/numbers in a more understandable way. Doesn't help that English isn't my first language so my music theory terminology might be totally wrong
One trick I might add: keep your (2nd & 3rd) fingers on the tips of the keys. You get a faster response and use less finger pressure. As a rule of thumb (uh, bad pun), I was taught to trill on the primary for music from the Romantic Era forward, on the upper from the Classical Era backward.
I've seen your dad play a few times; these were memorable experiences for me. Your mom was a teacher of mine in public school, mostly as a substitute teacher as I remember it. I grew up in Plainview and studied with the other great pianist in the area Avraham Sternklar. Small world.
Besides the Mozart Sonata 16, the other piece with 4 long trills that comes to mind is the Bach Italian Concerto BWV971: C-D-Eb-D-Eb-D-Eb-D etc. and then B-C-D-C-D-C-D-C etc. and further down 2 shorter trills A-Bb-C-Bb-C-Bb-C-Bb etc. Playing trills is more to show off your technical precision than dynamics or expression. The notes are so closed together they are like tied notes. You play each note exactly the same speed and line them up against the notes below to get proper sync.
Who else thought of calculus and infinitesimals when he explained the limiting process for reducing the gap between the trill and resolution? Lmao, great video btw, thank you! Trying to learn a nocturne and realized I couldn’t trill 😅
Thank you. I was very fortunate to come from a musical family. I studied piano with my father, Morton Estrin who was a phenomenal concert pianist and teacher. My sister also studied with my father and is also a pianist and teacher. We each assisted my father with his teaching while still in high school before going away to music conservatory. We each continue the tradition. We have children who are also musicians!
a really great video thank you very much for your videos you are such a sympathic person. did you ever play BWV 906 or BWV 893 (fugues first page)? its the use of hardest trills i ever seen so far, and i still dont know if i play them correctly (the hesitation thing the player got, that your talking about always makes me feel that it sounds unstable^) i would be glad to receive an answer or get some tips from you, especially for the fugue of bwv 893 and another question: did you ever see a person which could play trills with his 4th and 5th fingers ? i mean fast and stable trills xD best wishes to you and please keep on doing your funny and usefull videos
Very interesting, thank you. I come from the unsophisticated world of learning blues piano, where the advice on trills appears to be rather different. But this is still very useful nonetheless.
Hiya, Really useful! Amazing, thank you! Just wondered - back to the issue of which note to start the trill on.....I've read that the general rule IS to start on the auxiliary, but I've heard for playing Chopin it's normally on the main note? Is that right?
My takeaway: Tril is written for the playing buddy to play two notes with tiny interval between. Tril start mostly from the black note and ends on a white note. Correct me please, or share on how you "perceived" this lesson about Tril.
Seeing this reminded me to get the new ABRSM Grade Book for my next Grade exam - and the amount of people asking that same question - "how long will it take me to get to Grade X" - that has to be the dumbest question ever. And please, don't ask me to say why, it is truly obvious...... OK, I will get off my high horse now LOL!! :o)
I've never really thought about how to trill properly before but the way you explained in this video makes so much sense. I wish you were my piano teacher... lol
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Much needed for Chopin Nocturne in C sharp minor..
Hahaha me too bro
Luca H. Nouža lmao I'm here because of that song to
Same
Caleb Keene yes bro
@@danitigre232 that's.....why I'm here ahahah
25 years trained classical pianist here, still improved my trills a lot by watching this video :) beautiful playing, by the way
The fact that he play the intro and the outro makes it 20x times better
Chopin trills are just so perfect
This is what teaching music is all about. Thanks Robert, for getting to the point and explaining trills so well. Wonderful video.
Thanks, I needed this for Chopin Nocturne in E flat minor, op.9 no. 2
I'm a beginner pianist and practising the trills on sonatina op 36 no1 2nd movement, and this is my first time to encounter the trills thanks for the techniques it made the trills simple and much easier to learn!!.
wow -- this explanation is really clear! sometimes i can play a whole piece except for one problem -- ending those darn trills. and if you like playing classical and baroque pieces, you're in big trouble. i just applied this method to the three trills in a bach sinfonia (#2-Cm) and it works! i was always insecure about ending the trills; now i finally have an idea how to do so gracefully. there's room for improvement but it's a promising start. thank you, robert!
Trills are easy because if you can do it slowly you can do it quickly
Azgal0r I know you’re referencing twoset but for once that’s not the case 😅 you have to practice specifically to do trills
Sacrilege
I know this is a joke but like I can’t even play trills slowly...
AmAzInG technique strategy
Twoset haunts me everywhere
This video is great! I'm no pianist at all... I wanted to play John Field's first sonata (E flat), I downloaded the score off the web, I was very confused because the record I had started with a bundle of notes, I couldn't see them on the score ... then I noticed it said "tr" above the first note :) Doh! :) A trill! But I was really struggling to know exactly what notes to play and when. This video really helped.
Extremely helpful sir. Thank you for your positive energy and helpful technique!
I playing Bach's courante in C minor ,and i am practicing the trill starting with the uper note,my teacher told me it was a mistake,but in the fist page of the book this is exactly what they write .Thank you for making it more clear for me!
In the movie The Pianist (Chopin Nocturne in C sharp minor) the camera very slowly moves from the keyboard up to the face of Adrian Brody-so you can see that it's him playing. But he does the trills so well. Then he comments on how he learned the piano for this movie and how it made him grow as a person. I just can't believe he could learn so well in the time it took to put the movie together.
Thank you for this video, very useful since i'm learning Nocturne in C sharp Minor :)
m echiguer I'm learning that piece, too. Still having difficulty on the trills, however. Maybe I just need to practice more? Idk
Me too
Same
m echiguer i came here for the same reason!
Hey that's what I came to this video for!!! Nocturne in C sharp minor seems easy but actually is difficult
And now he's a TRILL-ionaire!
Amazing
Hahaha
U
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Dad joke
This was a really helpful video for my son (and me!). Many thanks Robert!
I was going to give up on the trills until I watched your video. Thank you!!
Never mind trills his shirts the best 😂
Came for the trills, stayed for the personable teacher 👍
Thank you! I'm in a level 6 stuff and, no one, ever taught me to trill! And that Mozart piece is what I'm working on, as well as the Adagio from Beethoven. Phew.
I am learning trill tonight. Thank you for teaching me this concept.
Awesome video! Well presented, easy to understand, practical demonstrations, compact and concise! Thank you SO much!
he looks like an old mr beast
@oof poop Robert *looks offended*
and a young andrew lloyd webber
Thats just rude bro
He looks like luke skywalker
Both genuine TH-camrs!
Thank you, the song that I was having trouble with was the sonata in c major, and the exact part you were talking about was the part I was struggling on. Thank you so much!
Mozart loves his trills
I’m so so agreed🙄️ dead
Also Lizst
Yes, but not me, it annoys me so much
Yah yeet
At least I can play he trill🤨
I'm also practicing sonata in c major now. Thx for the lesson!! ☺️ I've learnt smth 😃
Thanks for using the exact piece I needed help on as your example :)
Trills can be the hardest skills to master especially if you are also trying to play the main notes at the same time. Even sometime you have to trills with the fourth and the fifth fingers (not the ideal fingers for trilling) while your other three fingers are trying to hold a long note. As seen in HR 12 's Stretta Vivace, the Lassen section of HR 2.
Also, it is very easy to forget to play the trills, as I done that a lot of time when I first had a go at HR 12 Allegreto Giocoso intro section.
That shirt gave me the trills
Aahhhaa
Pls help me I can't combine left and right hand parts when it comes to trill, I'm losing measure and can't concentrate on left hand's play (almost can't hear it). I really need to learn it any advice you can give is good (sorry for bad english)
Thanks so much! Been having trouble nailing the trills in Rhapsody in Blue, this helped a lot!
Practicing Scarlatti and this was enormously helpful. Thanks!
you look like Mark Hamill
HAHA at least I'm not the only one that noticed.
+Jedidiah C dude i was gonna say that, he even sounds like him
+Jedidiah C I was gonna comment this but it's already the top comment lol
Lol it's so weird that the top comment only has 7 likes
I was like he looks like some one and you got it
The trill is gone.
Nice video! Since I'm a Pianist this video helped me a lot on the song " Turkish March'' which includes a lot of trills
This is gonna be a trilling experience!
i was trying to learn how to do trills and the song that he gave us an example of, the Sonata, is the song that i am actually learning right now, what a coincidence 😂
It's a PIECE!!!!!
I really love your videos. I learn everyday from your videos. Thank you!
Thanks Robert, I learn so much from your excellent teaching style. I'm still a beginner, my life ambition is to play the aria from The Goldberg Variations. I'm giving myself 5 years. Sounds a long time but I'm going to do it. Thanks again.
Hey how is your piano playing going? Are you at the level youd hoped yet?(I realise it hasn't been 5 years yet)
THANKS! Sigh,sigh --because when I play trills, I feel like I am a runaway train, never sure when I would stop!! Very good advice!
This is a great video and helped me alot! Thank you so much!
THE BUTTERFLY CLICKING! OMG
I'm learning the Hungarian Rhapsody No 2 and I have been getting into cadenzas and 32nd notes and I am always having trouble practicing those parts. Do you have any tips?
Practice slowly with a metronom and get faster
Of course keep the time intervals clean and watch your fingering
And practice a lot
That's at least what I did :)
Thanks so much for the tips! Helped me a lot in learning the 1st mvt of the Pathétique :)
Currently learning to play Bach's first Invention in C major. Not only is it super difficult for me to learn the polyphonic rhythm of the song, it's also riddled with quick trills. I feel like I'm wrecking my fingers because I'm not doing it lightly enough -- my technique is too heavy and clumsy. I want to be able to do it with less weight to make it more graceful for both the fingers and the ears. I also want to learn to play quicker trills, so that I can turn my current, three-note trill (two 1/64 notes + 1/16 with a dot [= 1/8 long trill]) to a four-note trill (three 1/64 notes + 1/16 with a 1/64 attached to it [=1/8 long trill]). It's of course both about dexterity of the fingers and the technique I use, but I'm getting there, I think.
Sorry in advance for not knowing how to translate notes to English text/numbers in a more understandable way. Doesn't help that English isn't my first language so my music theory terminology might be totally wrong
Great explanation, thanks.
Thank you!! This helped so much
One trick I might add: keep your (2nd & 3rd) fingers on the tips of the keys. You get a faster response and use less finger pressure. As a rule of thumb (uh, bad pun), I was taught to trill on the primary for music from the Romantic Era forward, on the upper from the Classical Era backward.
This is actually good advice. Exactly how I trill! 👍
i’m currently learning bach’s two part invention no 4. it’s in 3/8 and i’m struggling to pair the trills with the triplets 16th notes. any tips?
I get so frustrated with Bach's trills. He uses so many of them....
I know right? I'm playing Six Short Preludes No. 3, and the trills are SOO hard!! :(
Serene Feng Im playing invention 1 still annoying
***** Yea, inventions are hard. :(
+Nightwalker326 Haha, if you think Bach is bad with his trills you should try some Rameau. :p
Then Mozart came
From now I know it! Thank you!
Happy Trill's to you! Great video.
I've seen your dad play a few times; these were memorable experiences for me. Your mom was a teacher of mine in public school, mostly as a substitute teacher as I remember it. I grew up in Plainview and studied with the other great pianist in the area Avraham Sternklar. Small world.
Good advice. I will try for moonlight part 3,
Besides the Mozart Sonata 16, the other piece with 4 long trills that comes to mind is the Bach Italian Concerto BWV971: C-D-Eb-D-Eb-D-Eb-D etc. and then B-C-D-C-D-C-D-C etc. and further down 2 shorter trills A-Bb-C-Bb-C-Bb-C-Bb etc.
Playing trills is more to show off your technical precision than dynamics or expression. The notes are so closed together they are like tied notes. You play each note exactly the same speed and line them up against the notes below to get proper sync.
Who else thought of calculus and infinitesimals when he explained the limiting process for reducing the gap between the trill and resolution? Lmao, great video btw, thank you! Trying to learn a nocturne and realized I couldn’t trill 😅
thank you for the super helpful tips!
Such a wonderful teacher!
Hard to repeat. I need to listen again :) Thanks!
Needed that for Moonlight Sonata 3rd movement. That second trill really hurts.
Forearm rotation is absolutely essential when playing trills.
This comment helped me!
Fantastic tutorial, thanks!!
Glad this is helpful for you!
super pleasant personality, enjoyed the video. great info.
You are an excellent teacher. Thank you.
Thank you. I was very fortunate to come from a musical family. I studied piano with my father, Morton Estrin who was a phenomenal concert pianist and teacher. My sister also studied with my father and is also a pianist and teacher. We each assisted my father with his teaching while still in high school before going away to music conservatory. We each continue the tradition. We have children who are also musicians!
Always loved your videos.. Off to practice K545 lol.
a really great video
thank you very much for your videos
you are such a sympathic person.
did you ever play BWV 906 or BWV 893 (fugues first page)? its the use of hardest trills i ever seen so far, and i still dont know if i play them correctly (the hesitation thing the player got, that your talking about always makes me feel that it sounds unstable^)
i would be glad to receive an answer or get some tips from you, especially for the fugue of bwv 893
and another question: did you ever see a person which could play trills with his 4th and 5th fingers ? i mean fast and stable trills xD
best wishes to you and please keep on doing your funny and usefull videos
Thumbs up, This is definitely a quality material... I really like it... explains the problem well... :)
Thank you. Soooo helpful.
Your videos are great. Thank you
Tysm for the vid!
Thanks, very useful tips
Thank you, you're a very good and nice teacher......
Had to play Rameau’s L’Egyptienne for my exam. Wish I saw this video then.
This is so helpful!!! Thank you!!!
Thanks Robert 🎉
LOL I needed to learn trills exactly for the mozart sonata
ikr
I assume k545?
Ryan k545 for me :)
me too!
nikolt2000 i have to learn it for mozart concierto
Much needed for the g sharp minor etude by chopin
thanks very much!!! i really get to learn a lot by watching this video~ :)
Thank you, great tip on trills!
Is that a Bechstein you are playing? Cool!
Great video. I am... trilled !
Very interesting, thank you. I come from the unsophisticated world of learning blues piano, where the advice on trills appears to be rather different. But this is still very useful nonetheless.
excellent teacher
Wonderful
Really great,love it.
Thanks for helping.
Inspiring teacher
This is a great video
Thank you - glad it helps you!
Hiya,
Really useful! Amazing, thank you! Just wondered - back to the issue of which note to start the trill on.....I've read that the general rule IS to start on the auxiliary, but I've heard for playing Chopin it's normally on the main note? Is that right?
Robert, is it wrong to play a trill in triplet rhythm if semiquavers (or whatever) are too fast? Great videos, by the way.
How funny... I looked this video because of the sonata you are demonstrating on :-D thanks
My takeaway: Tril is written for the playing buddy to play two notes with tiny interval between.
Tril start mostly from the black note and ends on a white note. Correct me please, or share on how you "perceived" this lesson about Tril.
Do you start the Trill on the beat of the note or before it?
Nodame Cantabile's teacher?! OMG
Soooooooooooo awesome
THANKYOU SO MUCH!!! :D
Seeing this reminded me to get the new ABRSM Grade Book for my next Grade exam - and the amount of people asking that same question - "how long will it take me to get to Grade X" - that has to be the dumbest question ever. And please, don't ask me to say why, it is truly obvious...... OK, I will get off my high horse now LOL!! :o)
Thank you…. A good vid !!!
I've never really thought about how to trill properly before but the way you explained in this video makes so much sense. I wish you were my piano teacher... lol
Thank you so much!