Improve Trills in 3 steps
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2021
- Many people are scared when it comes to trills on the piano. In this video I talk about 3 basic mistakes which will help you immediately to improve your trills. One video is not enough to go through all the details and as I said in the video there are lots of exceptions.
On this channel I am going to share my experience and thoughts about fingerings, interpretation, fingertechniques and playing piano in generel. If you have any questions or ideas please leave it in the comments!
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Happy Halloween everyone! Instead of a scary costume I thought it's time for a topic that seems to scare many people - TRILLS :P Do you have problems with trills? What helps you to overcome the problems? Share it in the comments!
Happy Halloween
Happy Halloween, what has always helped to play trills is hand positioning, relaxed hand and for long trills it helps a lot to use your wrist
"Chill it's just a trill" You are right that'll look good on a shirt 😂
finally a good thrill tutorial :) Thank you!
One tutorial video on trills is not enough. How bout a trillogy?!
Medical student here. So long story short, 2 and 3 have the same nerve. But 2 and 4 have different nerves. That’s why when you use 2 and 3, your finger gets stock. Because while your 2nd finger wants to get up the 3rd is getting order to go down. So 2nd goes down with it again. But in case of 2 and 4 you wont face the same problem. Because one nerve is responsible for lifting and another nerve is responsible for pressing the key. Separate pathways = no interference 😁👍🏼
And I'm assuming 4 and 5 have the same main nerve?
No, 4 and 5 share same tendon. They basically tied together. That's why it takes an extra effort to move them especially 4th
huh thats interesting, do you know why 2 and 3 are easier for me? 2 and 4 is so much slower and its hard for me to trill fast, and my fingers get tired after a while, rather if i use 2 and 3, i can trill like a machine gun.
i butterfly click in games i play, so may i be used to it or am i just built weird?
i dont see how you could get used to it if it has to do with if its the same/different nerve
oh, nevermind i watched the video 😭
Oh my gosh!! It helped to much! Thank you 👍
"Physics not magic"
Godowsky: hold my right hand (while I play an entire etude with my left)
I'm a beginner, so it will be quite a while before I have to deal with trills, but when I do, I'll remember... "Chill, it's just a trill"! Thanks, Annique! :-)
Trills aren't as far away as you may think. Have a little practise now, and it'll pay off when you see them in the near future.
Nah, you can start now.
You’ve got this💪👍
@@MattCooperKay Isn’t trills easy
@@bozzigmupp510 depends - on a double bass, I find it hard - at least if you have to use the 5th finger ;-)
Why didn't I have you as a piano teacher, my life would have been considerably less frustrating.
I was never really good in trills, so this video helped me a lot, thank you.
I'm an intermediate player and I have been amazed at how much varying info on trills is out there. And, all from terrific pianists. One says use only your fingers, one says use only your wrists, one says a combo of the two, hold your wrist high, hold it low, and on and on. Some use every finger combination, some use just a few. All that being said, I appreciate your approach.
Thank you Annique! I'm working on Mozart's famous Sonata in C KV 545 and these tips have helped me a lot already. Especially, moving to the heart of the key!
Thank you for this! I've been working on Bach BWV 645 and struggling with the trills. After watching your tutorial my playing has improved!
Hello from Hong Kong. I must say your videos about posture have helped me a lot. I’m an adult beginner to learn piano. But I believe it’s never too late 🤭
The middle finger directed off camera made me bust out laughing. Great video, thank you.
Good stuff! I also find that super relaxing my wrists and rotating it during a trill (especially a fast one) and keeping the finger weight into the keys (amount dictated by degree of loudness) relaxes the fingers, allows me to sustain the trill indefinitely and prevents fatigue!
Finally someone did a good tutorial for trills. Thank you.
I'd like to see you play the trills in Chopin's Nocturne Op. 55 no. 2, it's an extended trills that also requires the little finger to play the melody.
Probably my favorite nocturne at the moment
Wow. Been trying for years to use the 4-5 finger combination and I thought I really sucked at this and always reverted to the 1-2. This was very helpful. You are a beautiful teacher.
I cannot get over how beautiful she is too, even though i am just here for improving my playing, but i found it actually helps me trust in her advice and apply it more.
Thank you for the video. Take care Annique ! Hope you're going better
Get well, Annique & Thanks for the video!!!
This is an eye opener, thanks! I’ve always struggled with trills and never thought of using non-adjacent fingers 😲
I've been playing most my life and I'm just learning this. Whaaaa. Thank you so much for such insightful info!
Love your channel & the freedom of playing that you promote!!👍👍👍
I really would see a whole hour masterclass of fingerings from you. I really learn a lot. Love you so much :)
I've been watching a few of these and hope to reach my piano soon. Very different from music lessons and I am getting used to the chat. Thank you .
Finding this at the perfect. This is 2 from you today that have moved my brain forward. Thank you.
I have never played trills clearly so thank you sooo much for this🥰
I've never been scared of your trills. They're beautiful.
Very well done. As usual it was so helpful. Merci beacoup
Take care, Annique! Thanks for your tutorial :)
Besides your content which was very helpful and informative, your video style is developing in a very appealing direction! Very fun to watch!
Thank you for this, I really needed it.😊
Very detailed. If you want to play well and fast, these details make all the difference in the amount of practice and the results.
your sharing is so fun and helpful love it
Thank you for this video ❤️ I love to watch your videos..❤️
This was so helpful!!!
Sure helped me a LOT😊
Great video, thank you!
Very helpful thank you !
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that 1 and 2 trill the 1st gets stuck in the keys, I've been using 2 and 3 for trills in my right hand mainly because I'm not right hand dominant
Thank you for this video it helped a lot✨👏🏻😄
awesome! learning sonata 16 and struggling with the trill in the fourth bar. this was helpful
Love ur vids!😊
Yesss💪 this is exactly what I needed😎
great lesson again😊
i love your channel! thanks for the tips :D
Thanks. That was very useful
I really love the tips given in this vídeo.......
Thanks for the video! I learned Morning by Gried and got stuck on trills there (couldn't play it clean making most of mistakes you've mentioned). Now I gonna try relearn using you tips.
And waiting video about glissando and, maybe, tremolo :)
you solved one of my biggest problems.. thank you very much😅
Gut erklärt! Wird nachher ausprobiert 😅
this week my piano lesson was exactly about trills and this was the best video I watched about it so far. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! im not scared anymore :p
Hello, I just finished learning Bach prelude BWW 855 and there's a part in which you actually have to trill with 4 and 5, but nice and educative video ❤️
I'm so happy with your advice: "alway try to avoid the use of the your fourth vinger". I have a crushed fourth finger on my right hand. It has been broken like 12 times during a very painful accident. As result it is curved, it has the same length as my pinky and I can't stretch it perfectly. But I can use it when I have to during piano playing, it is verry strong en free of pain. I'm just so happy that I crushed my fourth vinger and an other one 😁
Hope you feel better soon!
Danke schön!
Wow wow wow!!!! Now I know where my trilling problem hails from. Lol. I was a 2&3 guy until I came across this video, then I changed to 1&4. It was like magic... I'm currently working on Mozart's Sonata in b flat K. 570 and for that, at least, 1&4 work better than fingers 2&3. Thank you for this gem!!!
OMG, I’ve been playing piano for quite a long time now, and I often had this problem playing chords/intervals in left hand: I had kind of a latency in one of the notes sometimes.
And now I tried playing a piece where I had this issue(playing C+E flat in left hand, C often seemed a bit “late”, I just couldn’t seem to play them evenly, or it required huge concentration), so I tried moving finger on C to the bottom of the key, and it fixed it!😱😱😱 It actually makes perfect sense since I use the same pressure on both fingers, but with my previous way of playing it required different pressure in each finger while playing the interval
Kudos to Annique for saving my playing!🙃
So interessant, viel gelernt😍
Waldstein 3rd movement blew my mind when I watched it for the first time (with sheets)
Since we are talking about trills, what do you think about Chopin's Barcarolle compared to the ballades, Annique? As if it should be considered as the fifth ballade, or is it even better and in its own completely different category?
The Barcarolle in some way along with the Fantasia Op.49 can both be considered Ballades in some way.
it’s not a ballade, but the piece is used in the same way if that makes sense. (5-15min concert piece)
Yeah, I categorize them as siblings of the ballades. Long, magnificent, ever-changing pieces that explore the whole range of emotions, keys, and techniques.
Thanks very much you fixed my Chopin B 150 it was really annoying because i felt always there’s mistake
Great video
What also helps for me is to also rotate the wrist a bit. So don't use only fingers but also your wrist
Just for the lols, can you do a video of you thrilling the La Campanella thrill section with 4-5?
Okay my mind was blown when you talked about trills in the middle of the keyboard haha.
thanks, there's like 200 trills at the end of morning mood lol
Very helpfull 👍🎶💐
Great video thank you! I was definitely guilty of the 3-4 on the white and black notes, and it was indeed awful! Never again, thanks!!
Why that fingering? lol
Danke für das Video und gute Besserung! 👍
When you were like "I just explain it briefly" I was like no... give me the nerdy deep dive :D
By the way, I am here because of the crazy trill in la campanella where you casually continune playing the d# with the 1... so I gotta say I thought about using 4/5, but since I feel comfortable with playing an octave with 1/3 I think I will use 3/5 for the trill. And it is funny that you mention it because, I always felt like two fingers that have one finger between them are better for trills, like 1/3 or 3/5 for example.
Brillant ! You are 100% right . And no matter how many hours you train 4/5 or 3/4 there is no way to play prolonged regular trill can performed fast with these couple of fingers. You can train finger independence, but ergonomics can’t be neither improved nor changes . There are tons of useless exercises promising false results such as 4/5 trills , even worse and stupid are the exercises that aim to develop finger strength given the only thing that move a finger is a tendon not a muscle and any bodybuilders knows that unfortunately you cannot train your tendons to make them stronger no matter what you do !
Hey
I saw that I can wish for a piece for you to practice. ( 1 min, 10 min and 1 hour) I would be thrilled if you did Liebestraume No. 3.
I don’t know if you already have practices this. I just love this piece so much that I just can’t get enough. Thank you before hand
I searched for trill practice after watching Lang Lang Lesson 4 video in which he flawlessly trills with every pair of fingers. So we can say not everyone can do it except few insanely special people like him. As a beginner, my left hand fingers are very slow n weak.
Observation on good finger combinations (vs. weak ones) is very interesting and I will try for sure! Anyway, as some people noticed in previous comments, in difficult repertoire it's almost impossible to avoid 4-5 trills.
What's your take on alternating fingers (1-3-2-3 and so on)?
1-3-2-3 or 1-4-2-3 works good on longer trills, with the latter sounding more brilliant
Thank you for your nice videos.I like the heart of the keys concept and it makes perfect sense.However,I think sometimes(just sometimes)if I insisted on using the tip or the heart of the keys as you refer to them ,I would end up more difficult fingering.So I try to follow your advice whenever possible and I think you also did not mean that we should always play at the heart of the keys no matter what.
Great video! It’s difficult to say which fingerings are most ideal because the answer will vary in different contexts. As much as possible, I try to use more than 2 fingers for my trills as it makes the trill much less tiring, much cleaner, and more natural because the motion is less dependent solely on the fingers. 1-3-2-3 and 2-4-3-4 are common changing-finger trills, but 1-3-2-4 is great too.
Please do a Scriabin video someday, but I love this video. Very helpful :D
yours is the first video that actually provides any detail regarding technique. Other videos basically just explain what a trill and demonstrate it. Thank you so much. It's really helping.
One question in trills and ornaments (trills are at the end an ornament which lasts more time to finish) is the need to changing the fingers when phaying them. In the first years of learning of piano is said to change the fingers always is possible - sometimes this helps, other times that even seems becoming it harder to play. I don´t know if you made a video just for fingering in "short" ornaments, sorry if my question was answered in other video.
I don’t know if you have ever tried playing “Rage Over a Lost Penny” by Beethoven. In many passages I found it impossible to play white notes at the heart of the key. I needed to play towards the top of the white keys in order for there to be as little space as possible between them and their adjacent black keys.
Of course you need to shift the hand towards the black keys when you have to play them
Good points! Ever tried 1-3-2-3 etc.?
My piano teacher many years ago gave a few papers with quotes from pianists. One of them was (I don't from who): I believe the fundamental exercise of piano playing is the trill.
Hi Annique playing trills in mozart allegro 3rd movement k.282 has highlighted lack of strength in my fingers and lack of evenness and accuracy I can achieve between notes. I feel like it could be improved with drills or specific exercises, and perhaps would allow exploration of fingerings and hearts of keys. Would you recommend any drills or approaches? I assume broadening repertoire with trills would help and will get better with 40 hours/day. Definitely not trying to open a debate on hanon or czerny but would like to focus some trill specific practice. Any repertoire you would recommend (lower than grade 6 abrsm!)? I think your advice here is great and thanks for another great post!
The video instantly reminded me of liszts s388 :D
Very trill.
Also, when is TH-cam membership coming?
As a bedwars sweat (am butterfly clicker) I just use my pointing finger and my middle finger Lmao
Thx for making great content! Keep up the good work!
Hello, ur video really helped a lot to improve trills. But I also have a question, what fingerings u recommend to end a trill? Thanks and keep up the good work.
annique: don't do trills with 4 and 5
chopin: op 25 no 6 go brrrrrrr
I like your nike sweat shirt ....thanks for this information!
lovely video
8:44 interesting word choice
Thanks for sharing your experience and advise that I watching with great interest.
I have a question regarding repetition (triolet) of notes like G A Bb, is it better to use the fingering 123, 123, 123 instead of 111, 222, 333?
By the way, I use the second way, so can you please advise?
Hey what’s your comment on the trill section of La Campanella? I used 34 because 1 is being used for the lower D#, would 35 be better? (I’ve seen especially in people with smaller hands playing 45 too but I didn’t have to resort to this thankfully)
7:30 oof yes I'm in pain without even doing it
Very interesting, helpful and thought provoking, thank you!
What about three-fingered trills? I have a ms (Bach's 4th two-part invention) that recommends to use fingers 1, 2, and 3 with 1 and 2 alternating on the same lower key. That's for the trill in the right hand; different fingers for the left-hand trill.
Can you do a video on repetitions? I’ve been working on Friska and can’t seem to figure out the trills after the first beginning part
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Thank you for your tipps! I agree that, if it's possible, one should and tend to avoid trills with 4-5 fingering. But what about passages like the end of Beethoven's op. 109? In that case it's apparently impossible :-( What do you think?
How should one approach the trills in Bach's C minor sinfonia where you need to hold a note with one finger and trill with the same hand?
Thank you for your nice explaination. I understand that 1,3 2,4 and 3,5 work all well together for trilling. However, I do not think you are telling us to avoid 2,3 for trilling? It works quite well especially when the 2nd finger is on a black key.
I also think 2-3 can work but if you really have to save energy, 1-3 is less exhausting. At first 2-3 was the most comfortable fingering for me but when I got used to 1-3 I realized that 1-3 is better for me. After 1-3 worked very well, my teacher told me to try 1-3-2-3 which I believe is the most energy saving fingering for trills :)
One can actually play long trills very well with 2-3 by slowly moving the elbow up and down as they play to avoid getting the fingers stuck.
You're good at video editing lol, I notice the zooms and cuts.
Can you please provide advice for how best to help employ the fifth (baby) finger in works where the fifth is used heavily? I'm thinking of Mendelssohn's Songs w/o Words ~ the song titled ~ Adieu. By the bottom of page 1, my right baby finger has had enough! Thanks for all your Tutorials!
Fantastic! I like your videos because you explain all very good y are very funny. I wish you could speak Spanish for have a lesson with you
My piano teacher gave me some fingerings for a piece that has lots of thrills, each passage different thrill fingerings depending on what is before or after. Including the fingers 4 and 5. I didn’t „complain“ or asked why she would play it like that because I thought, „ok different fingers combinations will help me „exercise“ different fingers“. And yes 4 and 5 is just scheiße.