@@syan2240push down on radiator (or up, could put intake above keys (near screen) or on bottom of chassis), flush hot air out side. Flute it for higher þroughput, cools. A radiator just needs air to move past þe hot bits wiþ a lot of contact so it can flush heat.
It's not for that. Traditional fans have a very short lifespan compared to the rest of the components. In a modular PC you can just swap the fans without issue but in a laptop it is a different story. So these are a huge step for the longevity of laptops
Solid state cooling would be SUCH a game changer. Over a decade out from the switch to ssds i think alot of people dont appreciate how quite new computers are compared to the noise bricks we were just dealing with in the 2000s and 90s. I remember actually getting a whooping for waking up my mom by just turning on a computer. If we can get solid state fans we could have computers with no moving parts.
To be honest...my first GPU didn't even have a heat sink (i think) My 2nd GPU doesn't have a fan on it Over two decades later we need two 8 pins and triple 120mm fans just to run a GPU...
This is exciting but I'm more excited about solid state batteries, it's way overdue for battery technology to change from irrelevant lithium. With solid state hardware altogether and nano chips becoming super powerful, the only thing left is for GPU's to become smaller or even in nano chip form.
@@Tonicshades while I know that solid state batteries ARE a thing. I feel like calling them solid state batteries misses the point of what solid state means. In lithium or flooded lead acid batteries, it's not like the electrolyte fluid is moving through the battery as it functions. Batteries already don't have moving parts in them. They already ARE solid state. And it's not like we haven't had solid electrolyte batteries before. Just call the new batteries dry pile batteries.
FINALLY! I’ve been waiting for so long to see these get more attention, they have so much potential. Can really change the mobile device industry if they’re implemented more.
NASA and JPL were experimenting with a similar technology on a much larger scale as a space ship propulsion system. It was called the "arcjet" and it generated ionized particles, the movement of which generated the thrust. Look up some "arcjet test firing" videos, it's pretty cool.
@@zenivinez Ionizing xenon in a vacuum is though efficient not very effective in comparison to ionizing the air around you. This could actually be viable as a cooling solution.
been looking 4 this comment, altough nitrogen any oxygen is already contained in the airflow coming in, cant think of any way to remove those oxides of nitrogen after theyve formed already BEFORE even reaching the other electrode...(except bubbling the outfllowing air through water or even better H2O2, which in this design isnt practical, aswell as producing nitric acid as a byproduct LOL) makes me wanna know about any possible safety, also anti corrosion features that thing has (if it has any at all)
@@spammaster90 not really the issue i found the only real issue is they overclean the air so your body creates less mucus and other defenses which can help make you sick easier if overused, that and ozone is an organics killer so running them at full power in a small room is a bad idea unless it's gross so don't leave them in a room full of anything living for extended periods i use my ionic filter during forest fire season or mold season, works great, between is excessive
These things existed for a while just not in computers. But the problem is, these don’t generate as much airflow as a regular fan could. But I might be missing some information, so do your own research.
That dave2d guy has explained this exact thing in his video that " these existed earlier but were not energy efficient , but this thing is much more energy efficient and is close to energy efficiency that of the fan. "
I think the point is to make air cooling smaller, noiseless (or inaudible) and bladeless (so freer from mechanical failure), and potentially more energy efficient. Could be worth a try!
Might want to check the ozone output on those. "Ionic" filters were a big thing in the 90's and early 00's. There is a reason why they aren't around much anymore.
The amount of voltage it takes to run those is an EM nightmare, not to mention what will happen if something minorly conductive gets into the vents somehow and causes an arc to the chassis. I worry about the amount of ozone it will generate too.
Thank you for reminding that Dave2D exists. I remember watching him 4-5 years ago. That’s when I got my current laptops running 2000 graphics cards. I need to update lol
What I dislike about laptops, Is that only the most expensive ones for gaming have good cooling. If you have an average laptop, it would definitely overheat while gaming, we need a better way of cooling.
Yeah, I have Ryzen laptop, it's 16 thread mo ster, with decent igpu. The problem is that it overheats. But I found ryzenadj so I can adjust tpd of it... Processor uses 35 wats. To prevent overheating, I have to set it to 10 wats. All it does is to lower the clocks, that's it. Well... Almost, as CPU gets priority over GPU. This means, that if I set it to 10 wats CPU will use all of it, and GPU will run on minimal clocks. So... Solution I found is to limit the tpd to 10w, set almost all CPU cores to minimal clock(400mhz), and that leaves enough power for GPU. Of course, I leave 2 cores at around 2 GHz, so game could run on those, and it's mostly fine as most games are single threaded. Funny enough, whole system is stable on all cores set to 400 MHz, and you almost don't feel that CPU is so ridiculously underclocked. So why this CPU wants so badly boost to 4.4 GHz starving graphics of it's power? Who knows. Also, AMD says this CPU should run at 10-25 tpd. Well, for some reason my laptop runs it at 35, while having 10 w of cooling capabilities... And without custom software there is no way to run it at 10 w TDP.
Also... There is just enough space between heat pipes and laptop case, that I am thinking about putting some SSD radiators onto those heat pipes. That alone probably won't do much, but I hope it would help while using desktop fan directly blowing at it.
ahahahahahahh its on purpose why in gods name would they use better when they can fry the chips unnoticed. shocker the hinges in price points are on purpose to.
Ionic wind tech is very cool, and has been around for some time, I've recently seen it used to make a drone completely silent. Never thought about using it in CPU cooling though.
Love the idea of dumping ionised, charged air and ionised, charged dust around the delicate electrical internals of my devices - sign me up, no possible problems there.
Only neutrally charge molecules exit the module. The ions are picked up by the collector. Also Positive Air ionization is used to prevent static build up on non conductors
Guys, it depends how much ozone is created, probably not much. I've used ozonators before, you can detect it by smell belive me. Its unpleasant and making you wanna throw up.
been looking 4 this comment, but: not only lol ozone alone would be bad vad, but what about nitrogen oxides ..?!?!?😮 makes me wanna know about any possible safety features that thing has (if it has any)
Pretty sure its a negligible amount that rapidly gets dispersed. Realistically unless the central cooling in your house is using this tech, your probably fine.
@@JazzyFizzleDrummersif you mean Electrostatic they don't actually do any arcing, they sound good and fill the room with sound, but i don't like then, i just prefer the sound of high end speakers with horn loaded tweeters.
I remember seeing this action years ago. Making kites out of the tech, making under water propulsion, and possibly even space travel. I can't remember the video as it's been maybe a decade since I've seen it. Very simple technology, like a wire a sheet of aluminum foil some dowels and a battery simple.
Sorry to break it to you, but there have been a few video of these being tested and while they do actually exist and work, the movement on the air is why these will never replace actual fans in laptops. (At least not without MAJOR improvements) They move air, but very very little of it. These could be incredibly useful for microelectronics like phones.
That actually makes sense because heat on a atomic level is movement of atoms/electrons moving and electrical charges are just moving electrons through metals
Back in the days I've seen drones that fly with these, and the comments were saying that this air is not healthy (I don't remember why). I'm no physics guy so IDK but if someone knows, that would be awesome to know.
I know that this is a thing in chemical engineering, but usually need giant, industrial like machines to make it work. Was there a reason why this wasnt smaller before? I mean, while technology develops, I get it, but this is also fundamentally a electro chemical reaction and I cant imagine right now what has changed? I tried to look it up but mostly found articles describing it as new and groundbreaking but didnt explain the development as a whole.
Now mention the HIGH VOLTAGE... Plasma Channel did a few videos making a thruster like this... the big question is how does this compare to a normal fan for battery life.
Would be amazing to see them used in GPU, kind of like a renaissance of the blower style cards, 2 or 3 along the heat sink blowing air out the back would allow for fans to run slower and the air wouldn't pollute the case any more.
If this is the same thing as that other video I saw then some people were suggesting that this would be able to cool down a MacBook good enough that it wouldn't overheat like they normally do. Also they overheat by design because if they didn't overheat they would be more powerful and there'd be no reason to buy the higher end model if the lower end model is just as powerful.
I've heard from some others that it's legitimately abysmal at energy efficiency per air volume, but is rather efficient compared to a fan of the same size.
This idea could be applied to drones too. The best way we have right now to detect drones is to scan the sky with a a synthetic aperture radar (in a conflict zone, you don't want a spinning dish since movement attracts artillery shells). Once all objects are categorised by size, you ping the IFF transponder of anything big enough to be a jet and eliminate any friendly aircraft from the image. Then you shoot at the remaining enemy planes. Drones are trickier because their cross-section is similar to that of a bird, and you don't want to waste an expensive missile on a bird, so you use doppler radar to distinguish flapping motion from spinning propellers, and you point a directional antenna at the suspected drone to see whether the object is transmitting any radio signal. Using this fanless technology to replace propellers would make radar unable to tell drones and birds apart, and using ultra-wideband spread spectrum transmitters would make the drone invisible to radios that don't have the correct pseudorandom stream to decode the signal. You could even program multiple drones to follow each other in a V formation using GPS, like birds naturally do, which would save battery life for the drones (just as it saves energy for birds), and this would reinforce the illusion that you're just seeing birds. The issue is that the bird drones would be extra vulnerable to ground-based jamming, because you can't put a GPS reflector under the antenna. GPS uses around 1500MHz which corresponds to a wavelength of 20cm. A metal plate that size visible from the ground would make the drone definitely NOT look like a bird on radar.
One more thing: GPS receivers can be loaded with a recent almanac of satellite orbits to lock on to the signal faster, but a ground-based jammer is fixed in one spot, so if you receive a faked GPS signal while in motion, it's trivial to tell it doesn't come from a satellite, so the enemy can't fake your position with a replay attack. Your GPS chip will realise it's getting a signal from the ground and go offline instead of trusting the jammer. Jamming can be detected and ignored, but if the jammer signal is stronger than the satellite's signal, you're going to go into "No GPS signal" mode. Hopefully the drones can rely on a secondary navigation method like triangulating cell towers (especially if you are the defending country and you know where you installed the cell towers), though cell towers tend to use GPS anyway to stay on the correct time and frequency so they may be out of service. Terrain following also works quite well since the enemy can't easily alter the topology of the terrain except with drastic measures like nuclear weapons, which would take down your drones' radios from the EMP anyway.
Due to the "original" fan placement in oy asus x515ea, i want to get one of these and put it right behind the heatsink so theres actual air movement on it
TIE Fighter stands for Twin Ion Engine Ion Engines are a real form of space propulsion that works by propelling ionizing particles These fans cool by propelling ionized air particles My laptop is basically a TIE fighter
Solid State Drives changed laptop booting speeds, Solid State Batteries will change battery safety and now Solid State Fans will change laptop cooling, it's a Solid State Future here.
This is a genius product I just hope to God that this doesn’t cost a lot of money to make, to the point where the companies don’t want to include it because it “cost too much” Or if they do include it . The price of the laptop will just go up. dramatically
I remember in the 2010s i had a gaming laptop, it was a thickboy. But it had all the features a desktop would, including really good speakers. Those speakers werent topped until i got a sound system a decade later. The fan on that thing wasnt as loud as my newer laptop, probably because it was a normal sized fan not some microscopic fan taking on 8x the workload. That laptop never overheated. My new one does all the time even when i dont allow it to overclock. So i suppose this is a great stride, but its a problem that wouldnt exist if they kept laptops chunky. I dont see why you wouldnt want your gaming laptop to be thick like that. Better cooling. And can get better speakers. That laptop actually had "surround" but it was only surround if you had it on a desk, which i never did.
"you got liquid cooling?"
"Nah, magic harmonica"
Liquid cooling needs fans too...
And a radiator, where would you fit that?
@@syan2240push down on radiator (or up, could put intake above keys (near screen) or on bottom of chassis), flush hot air out side. Flute it for higher þroughput, cools. A radiator just needs air to move past þe hot bits wiþ a lot of contact so it can flush heat.
And that's how you get yourself a Zelda game
Hahahaha
harmonic(a) cooling
So now my laptop can fly without any noise...thats cool
Yes but ionic cooling creates ozone in action which also could rust contacts on the board and breathing in ozone is not healthy.
just get a macbook
air
Hmmm what if the air is humid you can hear electricity sparking but still cool tech
@dinowarrior2167 Dave asked about that and they said they had (I think) magnesium catalyst that converts the ozone back into a non harmful compound
It's not for that. Traditional fans have a very short lifespan compared to the rest of the components. In a modular PC you can just swap the fans without issue but in a laptop it is a different story. So these are a huge step for the longevity of laptops
The fact that the actual term abbreviates to “I.C.E” is fitting for its cooling capabilities
Doesn't ionc air devices cause ozone?
@@dsandoval9396 i guess this isn't the same
@@SignalYT24 how can it not be? Ionized oxygen is ozone, lol
How long do you think that backronym took
@@SignalYT24 ionizers produce ozone this happens when negative ions electrically charge airborne particles
Solid state cooling would be SUCH a game changer. Over a decade out from the switch to ssds i think alot of people dont appreciate how quite new computers are compared to the noise bricks we were just dealing with in the 2000s and 90s. I remember actually getting a whooping for waking up my mom by just turning on a computer. If we can get solid state fans we could have computers with no moving parts.
Damn!! You had the Autobots as a computer!?? Mine was not THAT loud!
To be honest...my first GPU didn't even have a heat sink (i think)
My 2nd GPU doesn't have a fan on it
Over two decades later we need two 8 pins and triple 120mm fans just to run a GPU...
This is exciting but I'm more excited about solid state batteries, it's way overdue for battery technology to change from irrelevant lithium. With solid state hardware altogether and nano chips becoming super powerful, the only thing left is for GPU's to become smaller or even in nano chip form.
remember when they first introduced it to the market and everyone was so excited and was such a steep pay point lol
@@Tonicshades while I know that solid state batteries ARE a thing. I feel like calling them solid state batteries misses the point of what solid state means. In lithium or flooded lead acid batteries, it's not like the electrolyte fluid is moving through the battery as it functions. Batteries already don't have moving parts in them. They already ARE solid state. And it's not like we haven't had solid electrolyte batteries before. Just call the new batteries dry pile batteries.
Now I want solid state keyboard
Keyboard on Capacitive touch screens are essentially solid state keyboards
Crazy
You don’t want solid state keyboards, Dell had solid state keyboards on an XPS.
Pretty much every piece of silicon based electronics are solid state. If you get what that means.
Does the surface rt keyboard count lmao
FINALLY! I’ve been waiting for so long to see these get more attention, they have so much potential. Can really change the mobile device industry if they’re implemented more.
I probably wouldn't mind using a phone with a small one of these, but I don't know if I would want one that needed it
They use a LOT of battery compared to fans of x5-10 performance
NASA and JPL were experimenting with a similar technology on a much larger scale as a space ship propulsion system. It was called the "arcjet" and it generated ionized particles, the movement of which generated the thrust. Look up some "arcjet test firing" videos, it's pretty cool.
Hall effect ion thruster rocket engine for a cooler on my laptop sounds pretty cool ngl
And it's blasting your balls with plasma. Isn't it COOL?
Or ionized particles, I don't remember.
this was my first thought. Like does this translate into engines for satellites? Last time I read about these engines they had little to no thrust.
@@zenivinez Ionizing xenon in a vacuum is though efficient not very effective in comparison to ionizing the air around you. This could actually be viable as a cooling solution.
If they can deal with ionized air causing health issues, as it produced ozone. Possibly a reverse charged exit to de-ionize
been looking 4 this comment,
altough nitrogen any oxygen is already contained in the airflow coming in, cant think of any way to remove those oxides of nitrogen after theyve formed already BEFORE even reaching the other electrode...(except bubbling the outfllowing air through water or even better H2O2, which in this design isnt practical, aswell as producing nitric acid as a byproduct LOL)
makes me wanna know about any possible safety, also anti corrosion features that thing has (if it has any at all)
Glad I'm not the only one concerned.
Maybe they've made use of graphene *shrugs* ?
High voltage that is required for this to work could also easily fry your entire computer if something goes wrong
pretty sure it emits so little it dosnt matter.
We will see what they did with it when it will be fully revealed
...valve,is that you?
🗿
Probably dell
The plasma channel guy will be so happy
unsure if i'd wanna put those near electronics, ion generators also make a ton of static and all it takes to mess this up is a few specks of dirt
Remember commercials for the Ionic Breeze? Apparently, ionizing dirt causes it to clump together and can leave residue in your home and lungs!
@@spammaster90 not really the issue i found
the only real issue is they overclean the air so your body creates less mucus and other defenses which can help make you sick easier if overused, that and ozone is an organics killer so running them at full power in a small room is a bad idea unless it's gross so don't leave them in a room full of anything living for extended periods
i use my ionic filter during forest fire season or mold season, works great, between is excessive
First time I read about this was 20 years ago when we still had Pentium 4 machines. "New fanless technology, will come to the market next year".
New tech is only adopted when Big Money is able to use it. Small guy who invented a new thing? Yeah no you didn't.
That's actually really cool. I reckon they'll be incredibly useful in handheld consoles.
They’re energy efficient, self cooling, small and compact, and when tuned correctly they can push a lot of air
These things existed for a while just not in computers. But the problem is, these don’t generate as much airflow as a regular fan could. But I might be missing some information, so do your own research.
Looks like that's why they're putting so many of them into a single computer
theyre decently close to a full fan
This new one is more efficient than the AirJet, still not as efficient as a normal fan, but good enough to replace it considering its small size.
That dave2d guy has explained this exact thing in his video that " these existed earlier but were not energy efficient , but this thing is much more energy efficient and is close to energy efficiency that of the fan. "
I think the point is to make air cooling smaller, noiseless (or inaudible) and bladeless (so freer from mechanical failure), and potentially more energy efficient. Could be worth a try!
Man it’s fantastic to see society moving forward.
Been super excited about solid state cooling for a while now. I can't wait.
I swear, this thing would boost my gaming experience 10 fold
Might want to check the ozone output on those. "Ionic" filters were a big thing in the 90's and early 00's. There is a reason why they aren't around much anymore.
The amount of voltage it takes to run those is an EM nightmare, not to mention what will happen if something minorly conductive gets into the vents somehow and causes an arc to the chassis. I worry about the amount of ozone it will generate too.
That's great, I wonder how it'll impact gaming laptops or even desktop, especially in silent PC builds.
I doubt it'll affect desktops at all other than a couple of random people doing crazy builds
With how much cooling a gamer pc needs... You will need another power supply altogether for these to compensate what fans could do
Well, that gives a whole new sense to "radiator"
So it’s an ion engine without the space travel bit. Neat
Gandalf cooling technology
" You Hottie Shall Not Passsss...."
Thank you for reminding that Dave2D exists. I remember watching him 4-5 years ago. That’s when I got my current laptops running 2000 graphics cards. I need to update lol
What I dislike about laptops, Is that only the most expensive ones for gaming have good cooling. If you have an average laptop, it would definitely overheat while gaming, we need a better way of cooling.
Me using my oversized table fan next to my laptop and also you need a good air flow on you laptop.
Yeah, I have Ryzen laptop, it's 16 thread mo ster, with decent igpu.
The problem is that it overheats. But I found ryzenadj so I can adjust tpd of it...
Processor uses 35 wats. To prevent overheating, I have to set it to 10 wats.
All it does is to lower the clocks, that's it.
Well... Almost, as CPU gets priority over GPU.
This means, that if I set it to 10 wats CPU will use all of it, and GPU will run on minimal clocks.
So... Solution I found is to limit the tpd to 10w, set almost all CPU cores to minimal clock(400mhz), and that leaves enough power for GPU.
Of course, I leave 2 cores at around 2 GHz, so game could run on those, and it's mostly fine as most games are single threaded.
Funny enough, whole system is stable on all cores set to 400 MHz, and you almost don't feel that CPU is so ridiculously underclocked. So why this CPU wants so badly boost to 4.4 GHz starving graphics of it's power? Who knows. Also, AMD says this CPU should run at 10-25 tpd. Well, for some reason my laptop runs it at 35, while having 10 w of cooling capabilities... And without custom software there is no way to run it at 10 w TDP.
Also... There is just enough space between heat pipes and laptop case, that I am thinking about putting some SSD radiators onto those heat pipes. That alone probably won't do much, but I hope it would help while using desktop fan directly blowing at it.
@@Arcidi225 Also make sure regular cleaning since dust and dirt will randomly get inside.
ahahahahahahh its on purpose why in gods name would they use better when they can fry the chips unnoticed. shocker the hinges in price points are on purpose to.
Ionic wind tech is very cool, and has been around for some time, I've recently seen it used to make a drone completely silent. Never thought about using it in CPU cooling though.
I can't wait to buy a 2nd or 3rd gen of laptop with these thing 😅
Love the idea of dumping ionised, charged air and ionised, charged dust around the delicate electrical internals of my devices - sign me up, no possible problems there.
Only neutrally charge molecules exit the module. The ions are picked up by the collector. Also Positive Air ionization is used to prevent static build up on non conductors
Calling it now, the company is MSI
most likely dell
Ngl Asus is the first company that popped in my mind 😂
It's dell.
I feel like it's Asus
It was dell lol
That's honestly- a great name for it. Ionic cooling sounds awesome.
Oh- uh- I'm also really jazzed about the technology. Yup- neat
Two problems
1) power consumption
2) high power ionisation produces Ozone and not so good gases.
So now laptops are going to poison you?
Rapidly ionizing. It means that it uses the electromagnetic pull to get hot air out without having to turn them into ozone
You don’t know what you’re talking about. This is only distantly related to the technology you are thinking of.
@@FiredAndIcedionising still produces ozone, no? all it takes is for ionised oxygen to miss the other electrode
Guys, it depends how much ozone is created, probably not much. I've used ozonators before, you can detect it by smell belive me. Its unpleasant and making you wanna throw up.
So that produces Ozone
been looking 4 this comment,
but: not only lol ozone alone would be bad vad, but what about nitrogen oxides ..?!?!?😮
makes me wanna know about any possible safety features that thing has (if it has any)
Reminds me of those "high end" tweeters that use electric arcing to generate sound. Things made for people with more money than sense.
Beat me by an hour buddy... Exactly my thought
Pretty sure its a negligible amount that rapidly gets dispersed. Realistically unless the central cooling in your house is using this tech, your probably fine.
@@JazzyFizzleDrummersif you mean Electrostatic they don't actually do any arcing, they sound good and fill the room with sound, but i don't like then, i just prefer the sound of high end speakers with horn loaded tweeters.
"It's a big company everyone knows about"
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?!
crazy how I heard about these some years ago and now they are finally becoming usable
They drain waaaay more battery compared to normal fans
Ionic air movers are really easy to clean as well. Can’t believe no one used this earlier.
My modded ps4 needs this
Ok but can we talk about how the image and included footage in the article just... has *elementary OS* on its screen? That's a very interesting first.
I remember seeing this action years ago. Making kites out of the tech, making under water propulsion, and possibly even space travel. I can't remember the video as it's been maybe a decade since I've seen it.
Very simple technology, like a wire a sheet of aluminum foil some dowels and a battery simple.
i have one of those ion tech things in my hair dryer 😂 it works SO MUCH BETTER than any other hair dryer ive ever used
interesting idea to incorporate ionic propulsion for laptop cooling, though it does make me wonder what the ozone production rate is.
Sorry to break it to you, but there have been a few video of these being tested and while they do actually exist and work, the movement on the air is why these will never replace actual fans in laptops. (At least not without MAJOR improvements) They move air, but very very little of it. These could be incredibly useful for microelectronics like phones.
Didn't think I'd live long enough to see fans become obsolete
That actually makes sense because heat on a atomic level is movement of atoms/electrons moving and electrical charges are just moving electrons through metals
wait for 10 yes before we can see them in the market
Back in the days I've seen drones that fly with these, and the comments were saying that this air is not healthy (I don't remember why). I'm no physics guy so IDK but if someone knows, that would be awesome to know.
ionizing air creates ozone, ozone causes cancer
This is gonna be huge. I would recommend designing a ionic fan and start manufacturing it if you want to be a billionaire some day.
Now… we need ionic jet engines
This will be a game changer in handheld consoles
Cool so how fast will it die if you dont keep them clean as a whistle?
I know that this is a thing in chemical engineering, but usually need giant, industrial like machines to make it work. Was there a reason why this wasnt smaller before? I mean, while technology develops, I get it, but this is also fundamentally a electro chemical reaction and I cant imagine right now what has changed?
I tried to look it up but mostly found articles describing it as new and groundbreaking but didnt explain the development as a whole.
Finally. My laptop won't sound like a fighter jet in the middle of class when I open 1 chrome window.
This is perfect for Handhelds
I smell gaming phones and quiet laptops
Now mention the HIGH VOLTAGE...
Plasma Channel did a few videos making a thruster like this... the big question is how does this compare to a normal fan for battery life.
Would be amazing to see them used in GPU, kind of like a renaissance of the blower style cards, 2 or 3 along the heat sink blowing air out the back would allow for fans to run slower and the air wouldn't pollute the case any more.
I want a ceiling fan made out of these
My first thought was "people finally see the potential of ion engines? Friggin YES!"
The vape nation h3h3 is such a deep cut... Wish he was still like that lol
The plasma channel needs to get in on this
If this is the same thing as that other video I saw then some people were suggesting that this would be able to cool down a MacBook good enough that it wouldn't overheat like they normally do.
Also they overheat by design because if they didn't overheat they would be more powerful and there'd be no reason to buy the higher end model if the lower end model is just as powerful.
So could these also be upscaled to be used in desktops and even just, room fans?
Magic doesn't just happen. This is chemistry and byproduct isn't something you oversee
Not buying laptop as of now, but if released definitely buying this kind of cooling.
Turns on Magic PC.
Begins glowing....
I've heard from some others that it's legitimately abysmal at energy efficiency per air volume, but is rather efficient compared to a fan of the same size.
And what happens after a while of use, when it gets coated in dust...since it uses high voltage, is this a fire hazard?
Can't wait to see them on handhelds
This idea could be applied to drones too. The best way we have right now to detect drones is to scan the sky with a a synthetic aperture radar (in a conflict zone, you don't want a spinning dish since movement attracts artillery shells). Once all objects are categorised by size, you ping the IFF transponder of anything big enough to be a jet and eliminate any friendly aircraft from the image. Then you shoot at the remaining enemy planes.
Drones are trickier because their cross-section is similar to that of a bird, and you don't want to waste an expensive missile on a bird, so you use doppler radar to distinguish flapping motion from spinning propellers, and you point a directional antenna at the suspected drone to see whether the object is transmitting any radio signal.
Using this fanless technology to replace propellers would make radar unable to tell drones and birds apart, and using ultra-wideband spread spectrum transmitters would make the drone invisible to radios that don't have the correct pseudorandom stream to decode the signal. You could even program multiple drones to follow each other in a V formation using GPS, like birds naturally do, which would save battery life for the drones (just as it saves energy for birds), and this would reinforce the illusion that you're just seeing birds. The issue is that the bird drones would be extra vulnerable to ground-based jamming, because you can't put a GPS reflector under the antenna. GPS uses around 1500MHz which corresponds to a wavelength of 20cm. A metal plate that size visible from the ground would make the drone definitely NOT look like a bird on radar.
One more thing: GPS receivers can be loaded with a recent almanac of satellite orbits to lock on to the signal faster, but a ground-based jammer is fixed in one spot, so if you receive a faked GPS signal while in motion, it's trivial to tell it doesn't come from a satellite, so the enemy can't fake your position with a replay attack. Your GPS chip will realise it's getting a signal from the ground and go offline instead of trusting the jammer. Jamming can be detected and ignored, but if the jammer signal is stronger than the satellite's signal, you're going to go into "No GPS signal" mode. Hopefully the drones can rely on a secondary navigation method like triangulating cell towers (especially if you are the defending country and you know where you installed the cell towers), though cell towers tend to use GPS anyway to stay on the correct time and frequency so they may be out of service. Terrain following also works quite well since the enemy can't easily alter the topology of the terrain except with drastic measures like nuclear weapons, which would take down your drones' radios from the EMP anyway.
Could be great for phones, especially premium gaming phones that are already starting to incorporate small fans in them to cool the SoCs.
I want this in steam dec 2 next
Wow I never thought to use ionic thrusters in laptops. That's pretty interesting
This would be a complete game changer.
These would also be good for VR Headsets too. Lots of applications.
Nice thing❤️ the Plasma Chanel make experiments with this Technic🙏🏼
Future handhelds would benefit from it so much
Considering how small it is, you could potentially riddle the laptop with then getting greater airflow and More space for stuff like the battery.
This is a game changer for getting my computer cpu to cool down. I have zero clue how it is overheating with an AIO installed on it.
holy shit the future is now. now we just need a giant one for indoor skydiving.
My only cocnern is the high voltage they operate on will mess with other components
Honestly is such a cool design
The only problem is that they don't push out as much volume of air as a normal laptop fan does
Watching this after creating for an exhibition I feel proud
So a Dyson fan in a laptop... Gotcha
We got smol fans with big airflow before GTA 6 ?😮
This would be so dope if Valve puts this tech in the Steam Deck 2.
But will they fix the hinges so they aren't the first thing to wear out?
Ooo looks small enough to easily fit into a steam deck. If its a significant progression in technology, we might see this in the steam deck 2!
Due to the "original" fan placement in oy asus x515ea, i want to get one of these and put it right behind the heatsink so theres actual air movement on it
Smartphone and Handheld Computer will soon be revolutionized
These could be amazing for handheld PCs like the Steam Deck or Legion Go. Something like this can lower weight and power draw.
TIE Fighter stands for Twin Ion Engine
Ion Engines are a real form of space propulsion that works by propelling ionizing particles
These fans cool by propelling ionized air particles
My laptop is basically a TIE fighter
Wow maybe this feature make me buy laptop 😯
Now you can hear a cool harmonica humm while you game in 2025
if we can get a way to mount a TON of these in cases/on mobo directly this is a game changer
Solid State Drives changed laptop booting speeds, Solid State Batteries will change battery safety and now Solid State Fans will change laptop cooling, it's a Solid State Future here.
Lol definitely going to use these when they come out but ill keep the fans just for the astetic look
This is a genius product
I just hope to God that this doesn’t cost a lot of money to make, to the point where the companies don’t want to include it because it “cost too much”
Or if they do include it .
The price of the laptop will just go up. dramatically
I remember in the 2010s i had a gaming laptop, it was a thickboy. But it had all the features a desktop would, including really good speakers. Those speakers werent topped until i got a sound system a decade later. The fan on that thing wasnt as loud as my newer laptop, probably because it was a normal sized fan not some microscopic fan taking on 8x the workload. That laptop never overheated. My new one does all the time even when i dont allow it to overclock.
So i suppose this is a great stride, but its a problem that wouldnt exist if they kept laptops chunky. I dont see why you wouldnt want your gaming laptop to be thick like that. Better cooling. And can get better speakers. That laptop actually had "surround" but it was only surround if you had it on a desk, which i never did.
Can't wait for solid state rgb lights.