Unfortunately, this wouldn't be the last time a Shopping Cart would be responsible for a train crash. On October 23rd, 2000, a Long Island Rail Road train struck a stray cart on the tracks, and it shorted out the Third Rail and the train caught fire, and although nobody was killed, the lead engine, DM30AC #503, was a Total Loss, and was used as a Part Donor until it was finally scrapped in July 2018.
If those kids had been arrested, here are the charges they would face: 1) Will Destruction of Federal Property (Being that the railroad is a federally governed entity), 2) Theft (by unlawful taking {meaning the shopping cart}).
I wonder if the railyard had security footage. If not, I hope someone saw the little ingrates do this. What if, instead of wine, that train was loaded with tanker cars of chlorine gas or anhydrous ammonia or the like?
Trains be like "giant unstoppable mass of iron that WILL obliterate anything that dares cross its path", but at the same time a shopping cart placed just in the right position is just too much to ask
Any part of it. If it shears through enough ties, track will give way; if it gets jammed in the crossover, wheels can climb over and come off the track. Without video of the actual incident in progress, you'll have to "think outside the box (or rails," in this case.
Wow, glad nobody got hurt. That shopping cart ain't hauling anymore groceries. What happened to the kids that left the cart? It sure piled it all up. Cheers, Dan
Poor camera handling. Back and forth so many times, zoom in and out in and out, back and forth I think even the people on sight were getting dizzy from it.
Thanks for taking the trouble to comment Harold.. You must remember these videos were simply a railfan recording trains for personal use.. Future publication was not even a remote consideration at the time of the original recording.. I simply share them now for what they are ....Railfan quality ....and make no apologies..They are what they are and If they annoy you so much just don't watch them..
I was working for Conrail back then, ( still do but csx now ) and I remember a wreck in Utica, but if memory serves me right the train hit an old bath tub that had been put on the tracks, unless this was a different wreck. ???????
The official story was that a bunch of junk including a shopping cart was piled on the tracks. The train carried debris lodged under the lead locomotive for nearly a mile before hitting the crossover and throwing the switch under the locomotives causing the derailment. They had slowed considerably from the point of impact but it was not enough.
I haven't a clue.. The derailment took out a crossover, the switch off track 1 with some of the Utica yard lead, a few hundred feet of double track, all of the signals at CP237and there was some damage to track 2 as far west as CP 239. They had it cleaned up in a few days but never put back the signals or crossover. Both locomotives were repaired.
I don't know but as wrecks go it was not a devastating one no fire no fatalities or injuries and a dozen containers of California wine.. see also answer below
The original incident took place about 2 miles to the west when the train hit debris piled on the track by kids. An old shopping cart became wedged under the lead locomotive and it was dragged until it picked a switch at the crossover in Utica
Kids probably thoughthe train would just crush the stuff and continue on.Was anyone charged for the derailment? My great uncle's 4-8-4 freight locomotive crushed through stuff placed on the track.He never thought it was malicious. Just kids wanting to watch stuff get smashed.
I do hope those hoodlums from the projects were charged, served considerable prison time and have felonies stuck on their records to this very day. Teach them a lesson they won't forget.
there's no way a shopping cart did that. I'm sorry you can't convince me of it. trains hit cars and run through tractor trailers all the time. conrail was was known for its poor maintenance especially after the government took it over
The train dragged the remnants of the shopping cart for over a mile under the lead locomotive and when the debris hit the leading switch at the crossover it caused the switch to open under the moving train.. That is how a shopping cart caused this wreck..
Unfortunately, this wouldn't be the last time a Shopping Cart would be responsible for a train crash. On October 23rd, 2000, a Long Island Rail Road train struck a stray cart on the tracks, and it shorted out the Third Rail and the train caught fire, and although nobody was killed, the lead engine, DM30AC #503, was a Total Loss, and was used as a Part Donor until it was finally scrapped in July 2018.
"Working together for Safety Service Success"
Perfect locomotive
If those kids had been arrested, here are the charges they would face: 1) Will Destruction of Federal Property (Being that the railroad is a federally governed entity), 2) Theft (by unlawful taking {meaning the shopping cart}).
Don't forget trespassing and endangerment/disregard for human life
I need to add that the video is not bad for an old VHS transfer.
I wonder if the railyard had security footage. If not, I hope someone saw the little ingrates do this. What if, instead of wine, that train was loaded with tanker cars of chlorine gas or anhydrous ammonia or the like?
Trains be like "giant unstoppable mass of iron that WILL obliterate anything that dares cross its path", but at the same time a shopping cart placed just in the right position is just too much to ask
Love the labor/management banner on the lead loco. Ironic 😂
Lmao
The crew called it a day and went home. Just another day.
Safety on a sign. Irony in bunches.
Don't blame the RR, blame the local juvenile delinquents.
What a mess! Bob...
Maybe none of the train crew got hurt, but I bet they about crapped their pants when things started going south!
Hard to believe that this is from a shopping cart! What part of a shopping cart is strong enough to cause this?
Any part of it. If it shears through enough ties, track will give way; if it gets jammed in the crossover, wheels can climb over and come off the track. Without video of the actual incident in progress, you'll have to "think outside the box (or rails," in this case.
In Fort Morgan Colorado, the old timers used to say a sugar beet ( they are quite large and hard) could derail a train.
Which locos were damaged to the point of scrapping
The police should have "wedged" the kids who did this somewhere like jail.
What are the cars with eagles? I saw those as kids...
I was in school at SUNY Tech (only a few miles from here) when this happened.
Does anyone recall the wreck at chase Maryland. From 1991?? Not the 87 wreck but 91??
Wow, glad nobody got hurt. That shopping cart ain't hauling anymore groceries. What happened to the kids that left the cart? It sure piled it all up. Cheers, Dan
They all grew up to have families
Should have tied them up on the tracks
Poor camera handling. Back and forth so many times, zoom in and out in and out, back and forth I think even the people on sight were getting dizzy from it.
Thanks for taking the trouble to comment Harold.. You must remember these videos were simply a railfan recording trains for personal use.. Future publication was not even a remote consideration at the time of the original recording.. I simply share them now for what they are ....Railfan quality ....and make no apologies..They are what they are and If they annoy you so much just don't watch them..
old school cam-corders I had one ...what did you expect harold? I liked it Jay!
A fucking shopping cart?
CONRAIL 5078 B40-8
I was working for Conrail back then, ( still do but csx now ) and I remember a wreck in Utica, but if memory serves me right the train hit an old bath tub that had been put on the tracks, unless this was a different wreck. ???????
The official story was that a bunch of junk including a shopping cart
was piled on the tracks. The train carried debris lodged under the lead
locomotive for nearly a mile before hitting the crossover and throwing
the switch under the locomotives causing the derailment. They had slowed
considerably from the point of impact but it was not enough.
How many millions in damages to RR property and cargo did this cost?
I haven't a clue.. The derailment took out a crossover, the switch off track 1 with some of the Utica yard lead, a few hundred feet of double track, all of the signals at CP237and there was some damage to track 2 as far west as CP 239. They had it cleaned up in a few days but never put back the signals or crossover. Both locomotives were repaired.
I don't know but as wrecks go it was not a devastating one no fire no fatalities or injuries and a dozen containers of California wine.. see also answer below
Housing project?? Looks like there is nothing around!
The original incident took place about 2 miles to the west when the train hit debris piled on the track by kids. An old shopping cart became wedged under the lead locomotive and it was dragged until it picked a switch at the crossover in Utica
videobruce b your a dumb ass huh...and black to I bet
Kids probably thoughthe train would just crush the stuff and continue on.Was anyone charged for the derailment? My great uncle's 4-8-4 freight locomotive crushed through stuff placed on the track.He never thought it was malicious. Just kids wanting to watch stuff get smashed.
Kids were charged placed on probation for years and never got in trouble again.
thats a nasty derailment
Unbelievable
Luckily it didn't take out the overpass or else it would have been worser
Very good for a transfer.
I do hope those hoodlums from the projects were charged, served considerable prison time and have felonies stuck on their records to this very day. Teach them a lesson they won't forget.
What?! In Poland this wouldn’t even happen because we were (and still are) using heavy russian-built locomotives :v
This video makes me very dizzy,,,,,
Too much camera movement with no focus on any specific area.
Try pausing the video at specific areas of interest
0:50 *yes we’re safe now* Fact: this is where Norfolk southern got this from and why people make Norfolk Southern what’s your function Memes
damn kids!!!!
oh shit
Tk the God's nobody got hurt.. And those kids should have been charged with the derailment
there's no way a shopping cart did that. I'm sorry you can't convince me of it. trains hit cars and run through tractor trailers all the time. conrail was was known for its poor maintenance especially after the government took it over
The train dragged the remnants of the shopping cart for over a mile under the lead locomotive and when the debris hit the leading switch at the crossover it caused the switch to open under the moving train.. That is how a shopping cart caused this wreck..
It'll buff out.
oops
Time to pee in the bottle.
Conrail was that a railroad. or a comedy club
The railroad version of Con Air. Wait, that was "Runaway Train". ******