The Acolyte Episode 8 Finale - It's Finally Over
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- The Acolyte Episode 8 Season finale was the most convoluted, poorly written, lore breaking heap of bantha poo doo I've ever seen. Shoehorning Plagueis in the show for 4 seconds to add shock value and just use him like a form of click bait into this show written by people who, in my opinion, do not understand Star Wars, is the biggest slap in the face.
I really do not like this show and what it does to Star Wars.
I am glad it is over and everyone got paid. May they all continue on successfully AWAY from Star Wars with their careers.
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You know Star Wars is in a bad place when the fans are begging for their favorite characters to not show up out of fear of them being destroyed.
Hope we only see the back of Yodas head going forward I cant deal with him being disney’d 😂
Truly scary, depressing times we're living in. God man, why can't they just hire competent people and stick to basic, storytelling fundamentals 101 again? How hard does it have to be? We're not asking for much here. Just do your jobs again like pre-Disney era and you'll make even MORE money and enjoy even MORE success. Why is that such a bad thing now!! How much more do we have to suffer through this?
I genuinely don't think any of the people running Star Wars like the franchise with the exception of Filoni and Faverau. Everyone else seems to have some personal vendetta against the franchise like it somehow wronged them and want to kill it slowly and painfully and make the fans watch it all. They don't care and they never will care.
@@VandicoupStar Wars is literally a free money making machine or at least it was. It's actually so simple. Just tell simple, feel good stories set in the Star Wars universe.
It's so easy that I guarantee that I could make Star Wars a 50 billion dollar industry in the space of a year and I don't even have any experience in script or story writing.
A lot of shows are in a bad place if fans don't want their heroes to return to the screens. In fear of what will become of them.
Maybe Palpatine decided to kill Plagueis so that he would never tell him the story of The Acolyte ever again
The tragic part of it is that palps had to hear it at all
I wouldn't be surprised if Qimir is Palpatine or some crap like that.
@@biffdakid something like that might drive a man to create a planet destroying weapon
Palpatine is the usung hero here xD
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Palpatine: "You ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?"
Anakin: "No"
Palpatine: "Watch episode 8 of 'The Acolyte'"
Lol, I feel bad for anybody who had to sit through this show
@@TheBabyCalebI'm proud to only watch recaps of this
Hahaha
LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂
I stopped at episode 2 when it was 100 percent clear no amount of benefit of doubt was going to stop the bullshit bad acting agenda shoving approach disney took with this show not to mention lore breaking. Oh goodness the lore breaking
So youre telling me Master Yoda could feel Anakin's emotions and tried to stop him with the force. But could not feel 10 Jedi master's disappearing from the universe.
Don’t ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product.
Who says Yoda didnt feel the jedi dying? It's an assumption
@@steven33166 Because if he did feel the jedi dying and did nothing about it, that means he's complicit. That's the entire problem, he's either evil unironically cause he felt the jedi die and did nothing to stop it or investigate or he is incompetent now because he didn't feel the jedi die.
@@TheManofThings777stop glazing thats stupid as fuck
Anakin: "This power to erase minds, is this a power that can be learned?" Spock: "Not from a Jedi"
The Jedi council use mind erasing powers in KOTOR
Could you imagine if Qimir had to kiss Mae like Superman in the second movie? That would've elevated the dumb Reylo-esque shipping.
@@skullbuster1220legends not canon
@@skullbuster1220 Yes and it was great in KoToR, but it was a trascendental moment that needed the whole council, not an afterthought power.
And it would only work on the weak minded. Explains so much…
I'm supposed to be excited over seeing Yoda at the end but instead my reaction was, "Don't.. please don't."
I liked it better when they claimed he was “technically unavailable”.
I guess that’s where the 180 million went. Had to bribe yoda to do a cameo.
Stop acting like you're not excited. You sat through and watched all 8 episodes despite in other comments for other videos saying it was terrible.
@@fallen4life080 leaving it til the very end without mentioning him at all earlier is pitiful key jangling as a last ditch effort to get enough hype for a season 2. Just like the Plagueis cameo. People have a right to not be excited. They’ll probably butcher something about him the way they did with Ki-Adi anyway.
@@n7sorcerer419 "pitiful key jangling" That's literally just called foreshadowing and building suspense, something that's been done for decades. What are you even complaining about, you're not gonna watch season 2 anyway....right??? Cause it's so terrible???
The real tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise is that he was involved in this farcical show
He could save others from the Acolyte but not himself.
@brainflash1 unfortunately he couldn't save others from it
A final nail in the coffin, the master of the best antagonist in cinema history (a.k.a Palpatine ) to be introduced in this show, GOD I almost hear him "Osha my precious, come in my cave" "in gollum voice
plot twist, it was actually a naked general grievous locked deep away in his goon cave
The Face is strong in this one.
it's funny that this show was advertised as making the jedi out to be evil when you've got a character like Sol who literally only took actions he thought were in the best interest of others and is then killed by the person we're supposed to be sympathetic towards
because the writers are either idiots, or psychotic
It's not that they were evil, it's that they were FLAWED. And Sol was definitely flawed - you think he had good intentions but he was reckless, ignorant of other perspectives beyond his own narrow one, and selfish when he lied to Osha. It's okay that you didn't understand what you were watching but to then turn around and act like it's a failing of the writers... Sit down
@@barndoor8628I agree with everything you said but that doesn’t mean the writers knew what they were doing the entire show
I can’t wait for the sexual tension between Plagueis and Palpatine in season 2
There probably will be 💀💀💀
Yeah, nah. I’ve been on the internet too long. I know what a bait looks like and no, I’m not interested in a second season just because of that gimmick.
Remember R2 is lesbian in canon
110% they are gonna be gay lovers
As is the Sith way, they do groom them after all!
Wait. Hear me out on this. This whole show was just Empire propaganda. This is just what the Empire shows people to turn them against the Jedi!
Reminds me of how ultimate iron man got retconned.
That’s how they’ll explain it on Charlie Hopkinson’s show. The AI generated Obi Wan will say it just like that.
Literally Disney against George's vision.
Except it hasn't just turned people against the Jedi, it's turned a lot of people off from the franchise as a whole.
The Empire of the Mouse I suppose
"The mission...The nightmares...They're finally over."
„Fives?! Fiiivvvesss!!!“
No it's just going to get worse.
It’s only begun
"Good soldiers follow orders"
- Leslye Headland while trying to destroy any evidence of Harvey Weinstein's crimes
They’ve just begun
Can we please start a petition to make this show non canon? I know it wont matter to Lucasfilm but at least then the fanbase and internet agree that it is not canon and maybe that statement helps somehow...
Finn: REEEEEEEEEEY!
Sol: MAAAAAAAEEEE!
George: It's like poetry, IT RHYMES!
😂
🤌
😂😂😂
George's poetry has devolved into an outright parody. A concept used to justify empty symbolism, where the audience has to fill in the blanks themselves thus letting the writers be lazy and self-indulgent.
They turned my boy Plagueis into Gollum.
My preciousessss!
Yay for Darth Sméagol! I clapped because i know Star Wars.
That was my exact first thought too lol.
Nah he look good
I said the same thing to my son!
At this point I think we can all say that Spaceballs is closer to Star Wars than Disney Star Wars.
Spaceballs 2 in the works!
😂 right
1. I loved Spaceballs.
2. Can they even make Spaceballs 2 in this social environment?
Hollywood pretty much killed comedy.
Pizza the Hut cameo when??
Wait, spaceballs in not canon?
Mae saying "see you in hell, jedi" to Sol had me scratching my head.
And then later they use the word "unorthodox", so Christ is canon.
@@Gabice93 Wait, so we have Kenobi who is Space Jesus and the actual Jesus... WHAT THE HECK? THIS IS GETTING OUT OF HAND, NOW THERE ARE TWO OF THEM
Rebel soldier on Hoth: "Your tauntaun will freeze before you reach the first marker" Han Solo: "Then I'll SEE YOU IN HELL!" - Empire Strikes Back.
"I'll see you in hell, Jango!"
-Montross, Star Wars Bounty Hunter video game
@@DrownedWick8Peak blasphemy🤡
Didn't it take the ENTIRE Jedi Council to mindwipe Revan, but this random apprentice can do it to this sorta-vergence by himself?
He also killed 1 Jedi master and how many knights
Isn’t it the whole thing that the sith are very powerful because of the rule of 2 and too many dilute that power
@@wargey3431that is not the problem, the problem is that now you have introduced the idea that powerful force users can simply mind wipe people and now it is a question of where has this been in the movies/shows/games this whole time?
@@wargey3431 no that whole bs about the force being directly related to the amount of force users was shoe horned in to explain why rey is so fucking powerful with no actual training. If that were true yoda and even Anakin should've been less powerful because there was a surplus of force users during their time. Realizing that the sith's greed led to their destruction Bane created the Rule of Two. The Sith thenceforth consisted of only two Sith Lords at any given time; the master who embodied the power of the dark side, and the apprentice who craved that power. The rule of two has nothing to do with the dilution of power but rather the preservation of that power
I don't like the show but I'm assuming resisting or accepting a mind wipe plays a part. Just how mine tricks only work on the weak minded 🤷
And isn't it implied it took time to do that too?
The Acolyte feels like it's been written by a teenager in junior high.
There wasn’t a single Jedi over 45. I think they retire during times of peace so it’s a younger looking crowd.
Headland said she was inspired by her high school fanfic days so...
Or hear me out, its kinda like been wrote when before the hollywood actors protesting started against the Ai screenwriting. This show is full of copied ideas and things from basic Lucas material. I think from the beginning its screen was written by Ai. Thats how they launder money, and its been so chaotic and utterly controversial. 8/10 things happen not getting explained properly or at all. 180M $ and u get those ebay costumes, just compare the white robes to Jedi Survivor flashback scenes to old rep. jedi. Hilarious. EVEN THE DISNEY LIGHTSABERS looks like ww2 flashligts!! they three times the size!! and god whole colored sabers, withouts a base white center...they could done better lightsaber animation in 1999. AND slow motion in a jedi fight. when did you saw that ever in sw? god. so so heartbreaking how they massacared lore
And the dumbest one in class.
Feel like there's a good story under it all, but it's been executed extremely poorly.
didn't need the twins in this show, just have the dark side also interested in the vergence on the planet. Have some jedi's (wookie, indara) get killed by qimir and have sol and jackie investigate.
The stupidity of one, the arrogance of two, the hubris of Disney!
The support of few
*begins to writhe around*
Who else sang it in their head, reading 😂
😂😂😂
The Disney Council should Not have made her a Jedi
"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? [...] Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could observe witches creating life."
I’d bet a lot of money that Leslye literally thought, without a shadow of a doubt in her mind, that “millennia” meant 100 years. Birth date inaccuracy or not.
You've cracked the mystery
Yeah I was also strongly considering this as a possibility.
Same here
Even IF that is true, she still made the show WITHIN that amount of time. So she failed miserably wherever millennia is 1000 or 100 years.
@@Torvsen yeah the disturbances in the lore-ce are for sure too big to overlook. The end of this was emotionally bleak.
I just want to point out another break in character. Mae, while about to crash land, shouts out "Brace yourself, Pip", as if she developed any real chemistry or repore with the droid she just stole from her sister lll, like 24 hours ago.
Can a droid brace itself? I noticed this too.
They're the same person.
And how is a pocket droid with no appendages except an antenna (that turns into a lock pick when the “plot” requires it) supposed to brace itself?
@@dominoscatnip5922 In wording only. Neither one shared the same characteristics.Neither shared each other's pain. Neither happiness or interests, or skill sets.
Where are they the same person, besides in the poor writing throwaway that was mentioned?
@@thefitgm335 even rae and kylo had a better connection visually with their sharing of space visions.
The ONLY thing for damage control at this point is just to come out and say its not cannon.
Or canon. It's definitely not a cannon.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks lmao
it doesnt break lore.
or they can also say next April this all was a cruel prank
I think a few apologies are also in order!
"I think this is worse than The Last Jedi"
Yeah of course, Last Jedi at least has some cool moments (not even remotely enough to redeem it, but still.), the Acolyte literally destroys Star Wars lore completely.
I've heard Palpatine actually let Rey murder him in EP9 because the amount of bullshit occuring in that film reminded him of The Acolyte, and he always hated hearing that story from Plagueis...
Plagueis: "Have you ever heard the tragedy of...Darth Mae the Space Lesbian Twin?
Palpatine: ""Oh for fuxks sake Master...anyway what time do you like to go to sleep?"
Cope and seethe.
@@Piratesi666 I am SEETHING right now!! But on a real, I have become so desensitized to Disney's shit that it doesn't even bother me much any more.
@@TheSithEternal Then why put yourself through it. If its truly as bad as you say, why bother?
@@Piratesi666 At times, it's like observing a car crash. You just can't help but watch. At other times, it's a pang of caring showing up, the ghostly remnants of passion for something you might have once loved, before the weary cynicism pushes it down again. Or maybe it's like being at a stately procession or a funeral. You know the casket's going into the hole in the ground and you gotta stay at least until then but, man, are they sure taking their time getting to it.
Many people felt like this when the prequels first came out. I must admit, after all the glazing the prequels have received after the misguided sequel trilogy came out, it does feel a bit cathartic, though considering this is SW Theory's channel, I might be in the minority on that one.
TL;DR: It can be fun to lambast bad TV shows and movies.
In the end, nothing makes sense, the dark side is glorified and made to look like objectively the correct side for anyone to join because it apparently has no negative consequences or effect on your morals and/or personality and just taking the dark side in for 5 minutes is enough to make Osha, who was PADAWAN TIER, stronger than a Master, Sol dies for no reason, and Osha stares into the sunset as she holds hands with the guy who killed her friends and kidnapped her.
I hate this show. I hate it with all my heart.
That's what happens when emotional women with daddy issues are in charge of a Star Wars Series & Company ~
Exactly. Show runners romanticizing the dark side is total bs.
You could write an essay about how many plot holes and inconsistencies are in this show.... and that essay could easily be longer than the entire script!
5 minutes ????? She’s been taking it in for 16 years. This was just her breaking point.
@@blueischiii1575 the show was originally supposed to be from the point of view of the Darkside
It's shows like this that make me think I have a chance of writing a multimillion dollar show someday.
If you can put all your skill points in to nepotism then you too have a bright future in the entertainment industry!
Only if you have the right connections. It's not about how well you can write, it's about who you know that can and will produce it.
Do you check the right boxes? Female? Non binary? Willing to fuck over your friends to get ahead? Is this really all worth that?
You do
lol accurate
The rodent tracker guy sabotaged the ship because at this point they thought we would be on board with the Jedi being the bad guys.
That part is one of the most blatant examples of bad writing I have ever seen. He JUST helped Sol previously by stomping on her foot and now all of a sudden, with ZERO explanation or context, he helps her escape?!? WTF??
@@n7sorcerer419 exactly. It’s ridiculous. We get the flash back episode and suddenly Sol is the bad guy in his eyes.
Absolute joke tbh.
It’s bizarre that the reply essentially said the same thing but got more likes. Have my like OP! ❤
@@n7sorcerer419 my favourite was from episode 2 when a Jedi leads everybody to where Torbin is meditating. He leads them because he knows the way. Osha, who is at the back of the group, breaks off and somehow gets to Torbin before everybody else - which makes her look suspicious. But then Yord comes out and reveals he followed her and saw everything. So what was the point of the tension build up? What was the point of any of that nonsense? It doesn't make sense on any level. Soooo stupid.
“Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis showing up in The Acolyte?”
No. I asked my local jedi friend to perminanly mind trick me into forgetting Disney released star wars.
"Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise he spent all his time on a desolate island in a dark damp cave spying on a diverse couple..."
Unfortunately I have. 😒
@@bspitler0No one is forcing you to watch.
@@Piratesi666thats not the gotcha you seem to think it is
This show doesn't deserve to be in canon or in legends this is just someones fanfic that was written up using chatgpt
chatgpt would never leave so many loose threads XD
ChatGPT does a way better job as it is trained with the the actual canon movies and material
Pretty sure that serie was written by ai
I don't think this even qualifies as fanfic.
Fanfic tends to be poorly written, but at least written by someone who sincerely loves the IP.
This is also poorly written, but by people who couldn't give a damn about the IP.
ChatGPT could come up with a better Star Wars story than this dogshit show.
Pablo should be fired, shittiest “lore” expert there is, bro knows literally nothing about the lore it seems
His political stances will always trump the lore.
He looks like the chicken guy from toy story
Pablo never should have been hired in the first place. He was only hired, because he had the biggest private collection of SW memorabilia. It's true, you can look that up!
@@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 You might be mixing up Pablo Hidalgo and Steve Sansweet?
You're hilarious! He's been with Lucasfilm since the prequel era. Dude is a walking Wookiepedia. I'm willing to bet that you were either very young when the prequels came out or weren't even born, Mr. Star Wars Lore guy.
In TFA & TLJ, Disney set out to destroy the characters of both Han & Luke. In The Acolyte, the goal was to destroy the reputation & the perception of the Jedi Order, and in the end, not even Yoda was spared.
Which makes me think the 2008 TCW isn't responsible. But yeah what Disney really did is unforgivable.
What really annoys me is the inconsistency in their force abilities. One minute Sol is an unstoppable beast but then the next second he can’t sense the basic things.
Edit: I totally understand the human aspect of frustration and clouded judgments however I will highlight the specific example of the Tracker. I’ll take a quote from the last episode Qimir said “if I can sense you so can the Jedi” while they are using the Tracker
hes clouded by his emotions
That's always been the case in star wars. One minute palps is the strongest force star wars has ever seen then he is picked up by Vader's hands and thrown over a ledge to his supposed death. One minute Darth maul is super quick and able to block multiple attacks from two great Jedi's and the next he's so slow that he watches someone fly up from below him grab a lightsaber float towards him and cut him in half without being able to react in time. There are never ending examples of inconsistencies
@@brandoncoleman4013the problem is those power scaling issue scenes have earned that right given the good character development that comes from it. This show does not deserve a single ounce of empathy!
@@brandoncoleman4013 It's quite sad that you can't see the difference between 4 of the strongest characters in the galaxy and the barely trained runts in this show.
@@dougiestudebaker4318 the difference? Who's comparing them? I wasn't. I don't think you understand my comment
“Impossible, the Sith have been extinct for a millennium, save for a number of dark force users that were clad in all black, wielding red lightsabers, killing dozens of Jedi. IMPOSSIBLE!”
-Ki Adi Mundi, probably…
There was a cover up of epic proportions only 1 living Jedi saw the sith and I don’t think he’s even the master
He obviously didn’t know about that because Vernestra covered it up
@linkheroofwinds He knew about Mae, a Force user killing Jedi, trained by an unknown master, in a time of peace. And never thought it was relevant or even at all related to a possible Sith return? Not only that, he and many others know that Sol couldn't possibly be responsible for those deaths.
@@magictriangle6878not-Mundi didn’t even believe there was a master. Vernestra prolly lied and said there wasn’t master.
@@magictriangle6878as far ah he knew the witches trained may nothing to do with the sith
Can we all just come together and officially declare this series non-canon? The only way it becomes canon is if this part of the timeline gets erased somehow, therefore making it canon that it isn’t canon.
I would recommend continuing with Star Wars under the assumption that these events just haven’t happened.
This is the Way.
Thankfully, this is the first Star Wars show I haven’t watched. When I saw the interviews and the agendas being discussed beforehand, I knew deep down this wasn’t going to be worth it. Ignorance is bliss. Therefore, to me, it’s not canon.
I have a theory that Filoni allowed EVERYTHING in this series to happen because I have a feeling the World Between Worlds is going to be used to rewrite canon anyway. Hopefully banish the sequels too. Could you imagine? It would make people fall in love with Star Wars again.
Actually, mid-way through writing this, I just realised Rey is getting her own movie, so.. who knows? Maybe the sequels will remain.
I love the fact that (through a metaphore via the Duel of the Fates) Qui-Gon dying decided the fate for Anakin to be taught by Kenobi, and, since Kenobi didn’t see the political corruption (and issues of detachment) of the Jedi like Qui-Gon did, this lead Anakin down a bad path. The reason I find this relevant to The Acolyte is because how IRONIC it is that the writers are SO politically detached from what is morally right, it is leading Star Wars down a bad path, corrupting it like Anakin.
Count me in.
Agreed! Canon vs non-canon should technically be up to the fans anyways, so I’m in full agreement.
Agreed
The line that had me spluttering with laughter was when HeadWife was like 'gather as many Jedi as you can without attracting notice!' when going after Sol.
Like...what? All the OTHER deaths have ALREADY been noticed! It's been leaked to the Senate already! Even Yoda knows near a round dozen of Jedi are GONE! What do you mean 'round up bunch more but keep it secret lol' She's absolutely mad.
The show felt like 'We can make up for this crap writing by adding fan favourite characters as stupid cameos to redeem ourselves'
You can say that about most of the Disney shows
Hows it bad writing? Sol is a decent character, the 2 sisters are alright they just messed them up in the end. Its not anything captivating but it doesn’t really do anything bad. Look at ashoka, thats a show with bad writing because there is no writing, no character is developed except for the villains baylan and shin, atleast they fucking put the work in for the acoylte and had a story instead of the pointless cashgrab that is ashoka.
The acoylte is far from perfect its probably only a 5/10 but atleast the characters actually have character and the show has a plot (which again, could have been rounded off better)
@@tshabalala-the-goat Im not an avid hater of star wars media and love many parts of the sequel trilogy as well as Disney star wars projects. This was just the one that did not feel like star wars and was just not that enjoyable to watch for me.
@@tshabalala-the-goat I have to say that Sol and Qimir were great characters and acted really well. It's too bad they were surrounded by a crappier show. Qimir for one is one of my favorite characters now and I wish he was featured in more stuff outside of this. A show just about him written well would be a killer. Manny Jacinto did an awesome job. The twins story was contrived and only created to appease the showrunners needs.
Worse show in show history
Star Wars is officially dead for me because of this show. I grew up with the prequels. I remember watching a bootleg copy of Revenge of the Sith (that I still have) with my dad when I was 6 (I’m 25 now) and I loved it. When my dad saw that I was interested, he was so excited to show me the other movies. That was how my love for Star Wars began.
Years later, my dad and I watched the Clone Wars movie in the theaters and the tv series every Friday when a new episode dropped. We made it a tradition to order pizza and bake either brownies or cookies. We even had lightsaber fights with those retractable lightsaber. I loved Obi-Wan’s lightsaber and used that while my dad used Darth Vader’s.
My dad has since passed and I treasure those moments and memories more than anything. I wonder what he would think of the sequels and the shows that came after. Knowing him, we’d probably be making fun of The Acolyte together.
And thats one of an Milllion Stories, how SW or Krieg der Sterne over Here did forge Legacy Moments for People. An Hereos Journey in an Fantasy/Scifi Setting, mixed with Saga Parts and an blink of Sarcasm on itself. I still dont get it, what is so hard to stay true to This and adding even LQTB or whatever to it, i am sure it will work. But killing it off and forcing Agendas wont.
Real ending:
Yoda: “Premonitions, premonitions, These visions you have...”
Anakin: “They are of pain, suffering, Death, threads, lesbian witches, Fire, Bricks…”
Yoda: Yourself you speak of, or someone you know?
Anakin: “ i think it’s something called… the acolyte”
Yoda: “hmm… a Nightmare it definitely was, head back to sleep you must”
Anakin: “I see, thank you master”
Yoda: “Careful you must be Anakin, The fear of believing anything Disney makes is now canon, is a path to the dark side”
If only it were true
Man I didn’t realize how much better lightsabers looked and sounded in the prequels, they actually glow very bright and flash when they strike eachother.
The best lighsaber fight in star wars is vader vs obi wan in revenge of the sith
Its because Disney is so fuckin incompetent with vfx , they literally use the light-up sabers from a specific company (not sure which one) and add no post-editing to them its such ass it looks like theyre waving around a toy
The lightsabers looked and sounded good in the sequels too, the issues were other things
Disney lightsabers are made to look just like their crappy lightsaber merch
@@תתקשרואלשאולthe light up Lsabres have some benefits a lack of SFXs in combat doesn’t help mind
About 13 Jedi were killed but Vernestra only tells the Senate about 4. Did she forget about the others?
The men and heterosexuals don't count.
She was covering up Qimir because of attachment to her old padawan
The Darth Plagueis stuff is literal key jangling.
There is nothing else he is here for in this series other than bait.
He pokes his head out of a cave so people can go “OH MY GOD PLAGUEIS!” And that’s it. Nothing else.
This is the kind of writing and fan service that we don’t want. It’s hollow, it’s lazy, it doesn’t add to the universe, it doesn’t take any skill and it’s benefitting from other people’s work that you rightfully appreciate.
@tomjames9681 it's setting up the next season you clown. You theory fanboys are weird af. You were all complaining about mundi being there as it broke the lore yet this episode literally showed you that three were no witnesses left. Now you are still crying.
You don’t think he was there for you know his hole perpouse of descoviring how to create stuff with the force
Exactly the same for Mundi
@@justjamie5006 nice try, Leslye
Well said. It's so cheap they did this. I really hope they don't explore this any further. Let Plagueis' story be. They will absolutely destroy him if they do season 2.
“My characters are so great that they inspired Darth Plagueis the Wise” was totally out of left field for me
Meanwhile Plagueis is saying "I should sue."
Kia Mundi was really really old in the Phantom Menace and was suffering from dementia and had simply forgotten this incident. At the time of the Phantom Menace they were getting ready to put him into a nursing home.
Vernestra blamed it on Sol. He had no reason to believe it was the Sith
Non Jedi force users existed as did dark Jedi who had left the order ohh a master was killed and Sol was actually consumed by his anger and depression over what happened and went on a killing spree to ensure the truth never came out and in the end was found out and committed suicide is potentially plausible
Doesn’t make the show better
It just makes The Phantom Menace worse
@@linkheroofwindssol alone could not kill that many Jedi anyway. There was a Wookiee Jedi master, there’s no defending this show
@@KRobinson-ko1nephantom menace was amazing. When they released in theaters on the anniversary it still made so much money. I don’t think it’d be the same if they put on rise of skywalker
I really hate how they made lightsabers into mood crystals. The bleeding thing only made it worse by undermining the idea of the Sith trying to stay hidden. And this scene even makes it look plain ridiculous.
I think this is pretty much the nicest thing I can say about this show.
FYI, I'm eating a giant Chipotle bean burrito right now. By tomorrow, I'll give you something of the same quality and consistency as this show, and I'll need about the same amount of creative talent to make it. And it only cost me $10, not $180 million.
Look man we talked about this. Youve got to stop devaluing your feces. A picture of your epic Chipotle shit is INFINITELY BETTER than the Acolyte
This made my day!!!!!
@@mco51193 Idk why my other comment got deleted, but my friend, but 8 episodes of nothing but pictures of human feces would be 110% better than The Acolyte.
Chipotle is a step up. You could do something of equal value with taco bell 😂
@@xxtornheavenxxLol. Probably true. And I suppose that even the people at Taco Bell wouldn't tell you that they hate you for being a customer and a fan, while at the same time expecting you to cram whatever crap they serve you down your throat and like it, whether it tastes like vomit to you or not. So they're doing better than Disney, Kathleen Kennedy, and Leslye Headland.
I can't wait for Season 2 so Lesley Headland can show us the origins of Darth Plagueis as the black lesbian that George Lucas always intended. Yaaaaaaas Yaaaaaaas!
Yasss queen Plagueis and daddy palps romance incoming 🥰
And Basil is the incarnation of the light side of the force
Yeaaa boy can't wait for Palpatine to show up and kiss with Darth plagueis 🥰🥰🥰
@@weroxgreen The power of gaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy!
The power of POOOO...
The power of PEEEE...
THE POWER OF POOOO PEEEEE
HOO HOO HOO HAA HAA HAA (angry joe show reference)
The power of pee fart 💨
I just realized the BIGGEST plot hole. Didn't freaking Bazil/Otter guy see Quimir kill all those Jedi?! How da he'll is the green lady gonna cover it up with 'they' around, lmao.
I conclude many Disney writers and directors are not Star Wars fans. Their ignorance and lack of care is sad and insulting.
Look up the TheMarySue interview with Leslye Headland - the Lego Y-Wing on the shelf behind her (11 O'Clock position) has its wings on BACKWARDS.
Nah wdym Dave Filoni is a massive SW fan. Even Lesley Headland. She had a massive lore cut with cortosis, she had a deep lore cut with venstera, her favourite sith is from the kotor games she defo a fan
I think they know more about star wars then you think lil bro
well disney and marvel have both stated they aim to hire writers who aren’t enthusiasts, and then encourage them to write a story without using any source material so they can create smth original, unfortunately it leads to shows like this
@@thiefofa1073How dare she mod her lego sets!
The Acolyte Season 2: “No one’s ever really gone.”
They said they were not doing one. 🤷🏻♀️
Qui Gon gets born xD
The Acolyte season 2 is canceled. According to insiders. Due to it not giving the fans what they wanted.
Season 2 will be a tree falling in a forest, but there will be nobody there to see or hear it.
Season 2, $250m for six, fifteen minute, episodes. 😂
Sorry Jar-Jar, we judged a little harshly.
If I only knew then, what I know now...
Hell, for that matter I think I might have even judged rebel moon too harshly...
Basil is the key to everything.
@@sparquisdesadeno...no you didn't. Lol
@@Rogue-a-Pogue Basil is a self-insert for Mickey Mouse.
Jedi Master Pepto Bismol might have been my favorite part of this breakdown. 🎉😂
Bro wtf did they actually spend 180 million on😭😭😭
Money laundering
drugs
on Darth Plagueis CGI.
Paying off Harvey Weinstein’s little helper
DE&I
This is what mythology with no moral grounding looks like. This show was a free fall down the chasm of moral relativism.
You can’t tell a morally “grey” story if you can’t first identify moral “black” and “white”.
I've forgiven Star Wars a lot of its flaws and foibles in the past. I've generally enjoyed most stuff, for all its highs and lows, most stuff has been 'okay/meh' at worst. This is the first time I think I've really intensely disliked something though. It just kept getting worse and worse and worse to the very end. Really awful show, not just as bad Star Wars, but fundamentally a bad TV show.
That said, unlike a lot of people I don't see this as 'ruining Star Wars'. For the simple reason that it's so fundamentally 'not' Star Wars, I find it impossible to associate it with the rest of the franchise. This leaves no footprint or impact in my mind, it does not linger. The Acolyte is just...nothing. It touches no other part of Star Wars lore, for me. It's done.
@@Blisterdude123 true words. It’s a fart in the wind. A pungent fart, no doubt, but a fart nonetheless.
Truth is the first value. Without it, no other value can be discerned.
You are 100 percent right. This is the problem with the modern entertainment. It’s built in a post modern/ moral relativistic culture. Not to mention just the obvious lack of effort.
They can't tell us what a woman is, do we really think that they can tell a difference in morality?
Lightsabers don’t instantly change color based on the user’s mood. We know this because we already saw Anakin fight Obi-Wan in Revenge of the Sith after he had turned to the dark side, and his lightsaber was still blue for that entire fight.
Thats right, you have to bleed the crystal inside of the saber
@@kennedyfb456And thats even DISNEYS ADDITION to SW
Tbf she could have been channelling a shit ton more dark side energy because her whole world was flipped upside down ig
@@cormac7884 idk mang, anakin was channeling quite a lot of darkness himself. His face literally changed
@@cormac7884 I mean, sure, to be fair this is just you writing the show better than the 180 million dollar screen writers Disney could buy
The rat man disabled Sol's ship because she got the rats pronouns right
😭😂
The power of one too many... failed Star Wars projects.
Amen
Im not ashamed to say i laughed out loud to this.
Wdym💀. Disney actually has a great track record. The arguably best season of clone wars, bad batch , rebels, Mando, Andor, Ahsohka, rogue one. Disney is full of hits
@@Potaty_man Problem is , thats only like 30% hits & 70% failures, dont ask me where i got that metric. (just a random thought)
@@JoshuaGrlly tho I can't rlly think of many other projects. There. Was visions that was a good idea at least. Book of boba which was defo lack luster. And Kenobi for some
Thank you, Theory, for watching this show so that the rest of us don't have to.
“Have you ever heard the tragedy of darth Palgius the wise”
“No”
“I thought not, he lived in a cave while watching his apprentice pick up chicks”
Disney isn’t canon
☝️Disney isn't canon 💯
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Disney isn't canon 💛
What’s crazy is plagues actually looks cool. But the writing and lack of care for lore ruins this introduction.
I do like his design Fs
He looks awful imo
Apparently thats where 170 million of the budget went
180 million@@captainDJ87
It's not impressive or a feat, it's the bare minimum to accurately depict a character. Why is it getting praised
For a crystal to bleed while the lightsaber is activated is one of many indicators that they are willfully Star Wars ignorant.
It just looked cool, relax. Now you guys just trying to complain about the smallest of insignificant details 😂
@@DD89640exactly, not to mention that it changed a detail that was not canon
Uhhh read up on it jackasses. It definitely was the wrong way.
Lotta shit stuff in the ep but i thought that was cool
And of course it was just like a kind of “loading bar” of blue to red, not the entire blade shifting from blue to purple to red or something actually cool/sensible like that.
That screenshot of Plagueis makes him look like Gollum.
That cameo just makes me angry. “Key jangling” at its absolute worst.
Gollum from The Fellowship of the Ring, yeah, I though the same thing.
He looks like that one pervert-dinosaur
How to know a show is good or bad. Who is the main character? Who's the villain? What are they trying to do? Why?
That's it.
Just went to chipotle, now to have to take a MASSIVE acolyte!😂
💀💀💀💀
Bro lol
Same for me.
I feel sad for the actor who plays sol, dude wanted to be a jedi and then they make his character a fall guy who will be remembered as a traitor who didnt even get to explain his actions before he was choked to death by someone who didnt even have force powers 2 seconds before
he seemed like the one actor who turly liked star wars in this project too
"What if... The Gopher smells crime.?"
-Charlie Kelly (Jedi)
I wasn't even surprised about the hyperspace diarrhea due to her constipated acting range. It's just the force balancing its faithful agent in whatever universe this was.
i don’t understand these big corporations, they claim to care SO MUCH about their shareholders and making money and yet they make the absolute worst content. if they really cared about making money and making the shareholders happy then they would make good content and make the fans happy. Happy fans = more money. it baffles me
At this point we're so afraid of being "not inclusive enough" rather than handling hundreds of millions budget on an almost half a century generational defining IP.
Caring or wanting to make money is different to knowing how to make money.
The people in charge (management) are incompetent, and the Disney board (who should represent and enforce the desires of shareholders) has been captured by Iger it seems (look what happened with Peltz recently).
It’s called cultural politics. Whether you like it or not people behind Hollywood entertainment and embroiled in it. They have to placate to their social circles and to their social media presence.
Quote from my wife "I've never heard you say THIS IS SO DUMB since the last jedi"
This is even more damaging than the Disney sequels because this is the past.
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That’s crazy
I'm convinced this show was entirely written by AI
Actually A.I. does a waaaayy better job !!!! hahah
That Pablo guy was a web cam technician during the filming of Attack of the Clones. Now he is a lore master. Nice career.
He is NOT a Lore Master. He can sit there, but he hasn't earned the title of Lore Master.
Wait for real? Was he really the technician?
They did the actor portraying sol dirty, great actor, learned English for the show, he was great, they gave him no good material to work with sadly
Sol seems like he was written as the most incompetent character, clearly someone who wouldnt make it as a jedi
The best ending would have been for sol to have survived and Osha have killed the Acolyte but they had to flee from the Jedi
Then she could claim ohh it was a dark Jedi not the sith returned internal matter her killing sol made little sense early on I quite liked him
The clips I saw of him were bad. How can you guys even understand him 😂
@@WhiteLightning476no that would be Torbin. The guy that committed the least atrocities and lied the least had so much guilt that he took a vow of silence and then offed himself. Oh and that’s AFTER whining about camping for 6 weeks.
@@n7sorcerer419 so true man, Torbin makes 0 sense, throws away his entire jedi training/dream because he wants to go home…?? No emotion or drive behind it whatsoever its a straight up joke who wrote this series
The Plagueis reveal was so bad just from a reveal stand point and nothing else. It was just a half second of Plagueis creepily looking on like he is the caretaker of the grounds. Then for the people that knew it was plagueis it was a middle finger and for everyone else it was like well that was weird.
I think they were trying to show that he was the master not the fallen Jedi and he knew that he would betray him
@@wargey3431 So if that's the case then it just reinforces the giant middle finger to the people that knew who it was and also that it was a piss poor reveal.
@@crazydestroyer4283 I don’t think they could have done the reveal anyway else without it being silly
I also didn’t see it as a middle finger to plaguis but he did look more evil than he should
He’ should be able to keep the mask that allows him to walk around in public without being spotted
@@wargey3431 Just to be clear I don't like Plagueis being in this but if they had to do a reveal, it would have been better to end that episode by showing him looking on as they showed ohsa and discount ezra miller together.
I don't think this is Darth Plagus but the witch with the points in her head who was so protective of the sisters and I never saw her die originally
So Darth Plageuis had to watch Qmir take that awkward bath too?
Had too? I mean... Dude coulda just looked at his phone or the wall but... You know he didn't. This is Disney Slop Wars after all. 😆
Maybe that's what gets his saber going?
@@Valen-mh9fh Oh God no no nooo
bro plageuis is gay - didn't you know? he is in disney wars now, everybody is gay
@@Grizzly8505 🎵 Everyone has GAIDs... GAIDs, GAIDs, GAIDs! 🎵 😀
I can’t pretend to care about Star Wars anymore since it hasn’t been Star Wars since Lucas sold it. Theory you’re our only hope to keep this franchise alive. Do your thing man
I feel you man, but I still enjoy reading the legends books and get rid of the Disney story’s in my mind
@@aprilia_hunter2511 oh I’m sorry I meant anything NEW Star Wars. I still play the old games and of course I watch the six films religiously.
This show isn’t Star Wars. It’s some weird sci-fi show, with the Star Wars label slapped on it.
The costumes are on the level of porn parody
@@adamfloyd7457dude I’d honestly watch that over this
[Rebel Moon has just entered the chat...]
@@adamfloyd7457I'm know for a fact brzzers will make a parody with better writing then 4 eyes could ever think of
God please don’t let them nowhere near a season 2
As far as I’m concerned the acolyte is a Star Wars parody
do you think it was all an accident? like...i'd sooner believe that this was never intended to be a star wars show at all. and somewhere along the way, the words "star wars" accidentally ended up on some documents, and no one wanted to take responsibility (because ya know...liberals), and then they all just went along with it. and each one thought that they were the only one missing something, while not knowing that every single person involved in the show has no idea what it really is. and since the number 1 rule of liberals is to never take responsibility...now the only option is to gaslight the fans. i mean this is almost more believable than thinking that real writers sat down and came up with this and then it was approved by multiple levels of other people.
They had the opportunity to use Darth Plageuis multiple times in the sequel trilogy to salvage that story to a great extent, but instead went the "somehow Palpatine returned" route - and yet they cram him in here for 2 seconds without any meaningful buildup and mystery. Just insult to injury.
Disney needs to audit this show no way in hell was this budget used efficiently
Dude, they forgot to show how the Stranger met or found OSHA 😂😂
"Darth plagueis is just standing there MENACINGLY."
Truly a Phantom Menace moment 😂
@@flaviomonteiro1414 indeed
phantom menacingly
so disney spent 180 million dollars to tell us that either yoda, the jedi with the most midichlorians at that time, is dumb, naive and irrelevant or corrupt and dishonest
If you think all that money was spent on the show, I have a bridge to sell you.
That never happened on the show.
What are you even talking about?
@kippsryan1 I believe it's extremely likely funds were embezzled
@@dominoscatnip5922that’s what the outcome leads us to
Plagueis said "I will watch your career with great interest"
Literally this, read the book it explains his mannerisms so we'll
I've just realised one major plot point, about this show...
They murdered PIP and no one seems to care!?
He was reset, mind wiped, personality gone, and essentially killed, and not even Osha seemed to react. I'm certain Osha notices the droid at Mae's side, but makes no reference to his reset coloured eyes! None? The droid she "loved"!
That's either shocking writing (most likely) or it shows Osha to be a very, awful person, even before she does-what-she-does.
What I couldn’t stand is that the actress that played Mae/Osha literally has one facial expression for every single emotion. It just makes no sense why she even got the role
Black? Check. Woman? Check. Bisexual? Check.
All that matters to Kathleen Kennedy and Leslie Headland.
@@404nonexistentclearly a woman presenting as a woman but identifies as non-binary. It's people like her that cause harm to actual non-binary people.
There's two huge reasons she got the part
Well she shaked Her secondaries verw well in Her Music Video....or wait it was an Music Vid, wasnt it? Anyway, now that you mentioned it, She had also the same FAcial Exp in that piece or Art....Hm....
They probably would have added red-haired girl from Willow and Falcon and Winter Soldier but she’s already Enfys Nest. That’s why they needed Amandla Stenberg. Oh wait… the writers don’t care about lore/canon anyway so they probably still could have! 😂
The mission… the nightmares… they’re over
What annoys me the most is how careful, meticulous and clever Plagueis and Palps are to not leave any trace of their Sith activities in the Plagueis novel. And in this show the sith are super sloppy (just like Disney's LF). Just goes to show the lack of talent and awareness in that filthy company. Screw them and their stupid, cheap-looking fan fictions
@@6runger Literally everyone that heard Qimir say he’s a Sith is now dead and didn’t tell anyone else. Tell me again how this is breaking canon and everyone knows about the Sith? Plagueis watching his apprentice fuck up from the shadows literally tells (shows) us that he’s not happy with him.
A show/story doesn’t have to slap you in the face with story beats, some things you’re supposed to figure out yourself.
@@6runger also, the Plagueis novel isn’t fucking canon.
@@DustinSingerNo but it’s better than this, I’d much rather read a non canon book than a shitty fan fiction
@@DustinSingeryea no one who saw him apart from master green face survived and she was more concerned with a cover up than anything else
It’s also very clear he is the apprentice
@@leviticusprime4904 This story isn’t even about Plagueis and y’all are butt hurt about the Plagueis novel being tarnished? All the events of this show take place PRIOR to the events of the Plagueis novel. Your complaint doesn’t make sense. And if you want to get into semantics, technically non-canon and fan fiction are the same thing. 🙈
Ken (Barbie)🤝Master Sol
> Arguably the best part of the show
> Does not deserve the disproportionate amount of hate/punishment they receive in-story
> The writers clearly wanted you to dislike them, but it failed spectacularly.
HEY THEORY! My man!! I have a couple questions... been asking around, no answers yet. Please help?
1) How did the senate find out about Jedi dying but not the High Council?
2) Why is the senate talking to Vernestra at all? Does she lead the high council now? All the Jedi?
3) What was that ridiculous Plagueis cameo? It makes no sense! Was he there all along?
4) Why did Sol go into the asteroids? Why not just follow her outside of it?
5) Why was Sol targetting her? Was he going to shoot her down?
6) Why did Basil rip those cords out?
7) Why didn’t Sol just kill Qimir?
8) How the fk did OSHA bleed the crystal that fast without a problem? This almost KILLED Darth Vader!!
9) Where did OSHA’s force powers come from all of a sudden?
10) Why did Sol give up to OSHA? She pulled a Sabine SUDDENLY being super powerful? If she had the power all along then why could she not pull PIP to her on the prison transport?
11) Why is the senate having a conversation with Vernestra about the Jedi? Why are they not speaking to the high council?
12) Why did Mae let herself get captured? What did that do for them?
13) Why did Vernestra solidify the senates belief that the Jedi can go bad with her lie? How does that "protect" the Jedi?
14) How did the high council NOT know that Vernestra was full of shit?
15) Am I suppose to believe all the Jedi that know the truth also chose to lie to the High Council? There are at least a dozen Jedi ALONE in the situation room watching Mae (not Sol) kill the Jedi. None of them talked? They ALL kept the secret??
16) Mae spends 16 years feeding on hate and then suddenly does good?
17) OSHA spends 16 years being good and then suddenly becomes evil?
18) Why would Qimir all of a sudden be Dr Love to Osha?
19) How the fk can Yoda be a part of this lie?
20) If Qimir can wipe a persons mind with the flick of a wrist then why not ALWAYS do that? Why fight at all if you can just revert anyone to the age of 1? How was this powerful ability so easy to do?
21) How come the Jedi can sometimes sense people and sometimes need a tracker?
22) How did OSHA power the elevator? The power supply for that facility blew up 16 years prior! She didn't have an alternate power source so HOW?? Where did the power come from?
23) What the fk did I just watch????
They turned Plagiues into a gollom 🤦
He's looking for his precious the one thread
You know he was skinning the snake in that cave watching Qimir and Osha...
They've basically made Plagueis the stand in for the shippers who actually like this slop.
He creeping Smilo ren whenever he's taking a nude bath.
Yes because it totally doesn’t make sense for a Sith Lord who always worked from the shadows to be spying on his apprentice
Glad I haven’t wasted a minute on this show.
same, summaries are all you need to know how terrible it was
Glad I haven't wasted money on Disney+
That was definitely essential to maintain the rest of my enjoyment of this universe. This is so sad 😔
Circle jerk of the Fandom Menace.
Of course you hate it, your watching it through someone else’s eyes and perspective. Dont bother thinking, im sure theres a YTber you can help you do that too.
I’m sure it’s been said already here, but in the High Republic books Vernestra hyperspace-trips - she gets hallucinatory visions while in hyperspace.
It’s depicted in the books as being an important way the force communicates with/through her.
Good to know that, in the grand scheme of Disney Star Wars, it goes absolutely nowhere (other than becoming an inside joke?)…
One flawed man.... It is missing the entire point that Indara was the ONE that told the other jedi what the cover story would be. Sol initially wanted to be truthful....
The whole point of the scene was that Vernestra made up lies to cover up the truth.
no accountability......
Still mad that Jedi can lie to each other so easily when it’s firmly established that they can sense intentions and emotions. Nobody was even slightly suspicious. Not even mentioning all the times Jedi were easily caught off guard with ambushes and surprise attacks. That should not happen that easily or often. Nobody listened to HK47’s speech about how to *actually* kill Jedi.
Why is there sexual tension between the sisters?! Like cmon wtf. I thought they were about to make out 5 different times 😂😂
Because it’s the same person playing the part and Amandalalalalala is so arrogant and in love with her self that if she could munch on her self, she would
NO LITERALLY WAS THINKING THIS THE WHOLE TIME AT THE END OF THE EPISODE AT THE TREE
And it turns on they’re somehow supposed to be the person 🥶 🤢
Ya they couldn’t capture the difference between sibling love and romantic
@@somepersonskywalking so if its yourself, its just masturbating right
Plagueis looked like a gollo type of creature holding the wall... gods that was so poorly written, a siith lord THAT powerful acting like that?! This aint the Nosferatu movie...
Just to push back here (I hate this show too) - he's just spying on something he caught wind of, and wanting to see it for himself. That said, I really dread to see how badly they're going to mess with his character in Season 2.
I wonder where his ship is, it'd be hard to hide something like that. Maybe it's a spaceship/submarine type vehicle.
When I was a kid, I read this book that scarred me for a few years called ‘The Ankle Grabber’. Google it, I was reminded of the cover 😂
It makes sense to a degree he doesn’t want his apprentice to know that he knows he is going to betray him
He’s watching them… wtf did you want him to do ? The sith have been hiding for a thousand years do you want him to go around shouting I’m a Sith Lord look at me guys
In my opinion, I feel Sol was going to kill Mae. He was using his anger as he has been so emotional this entire season. I think he was targeting her to kill her and the Tracker Gopher was being a better Jedi than Sol was and stopped him from killing her.
It makes zero sense for him to kill her. He needed her alive in order to prove that the lesbian witches existed and what they did with the force.