Wayne’s punchlines and wordplay are insane. Like you gotta pause just to gather your thoughts and catch your breath and fully realize what he just said. I’m 31. Been listening to Wayne since 04
I know this channel treats hip hop objectively and doesnt favour or diss any rapper and this is a good thing. But lil wayne is more a goat than a G.O.A.T. for sure. I know the answer to this question
Tupac will always be the GOAT for me, but Lil Wayne is definitely top 5 all time. Weezy is my 2nd favorite rapper, so its good to see him get the appreciation he deserves. It seems lately people love to hate him and say he's trash. Tha Carter II, Tha Carter III, The Dedication 2, Da Drought 3, No Ceilings, Free Weezy Album, Sorry For Tha Wait 2, and so many others. Wayne is truly a legend and that cant be denied.
@Aaron9 Wayne isn't garbage. U must mean rich the kid, smokepurpp, lil pump, are 🗑. U haven't listen to the old lil Wayne. U must not have heard his punchlines and lyricism 😴 .can u do better than Wayne 😴
The dislikes reflect how many people are in denial. Not too many give Wayne credit for his greatness. He was always lyrical and definitely stood out. His skill on wordplay and metaphors is amazing.
Lil Wayne is a victim of public perception. PERIOD. If any other rapper had his track record we likely wouldn't even be having a convo questioning his greatness at all. Many people are simply prisoners of the moment and sometimes even the past and they don't know how to exercise objectivity.
WE LIT All great rappers are victims of public perception. Truly great rappers can go beyond all the bad things, like PAC. Is Wayne really a great? Or is he a pop rapper that led to the overall downfall of rap in general? Depends who you ask. I think he was good in his day but as he went on and got commercialized he dropped drastically. That's his doings, not the public perception.
His work ethic His revolutionary style(super influencial) His amount of classics(AT LEAST 2 albums, if not 3) His great mixtapes His longevity combined to his relatively young age His INCREDIBLE Wordplay His good lyricism with great punchlines That's what makes him enter the GOAT conversation.
Lucas your seriously delusional and highly insane Rakim will destroy Wayne both lyrically and flow and Rakim invented lyricsim and flow and internal rhyme schemes and phrases and multi slllyables use and Rakim single handily changed the entire landscape for all rappers and emcees including Wayne and Rakim wrote a book called sweat the technique and it’s a statement that Wayne can never say and Rakim is the only rapper/emcee with a iconic and timeless one verse classic with paid in full,,,, and Wayne could never spit followi the leader and lyrics of fury or holy are you,,,real talk and facts
this is honestly one of my favorite channels of all time. I like it because it reminds me of like a Mathew santoro video, but about rap. The host is gives off a super friendly vibe, he doesn't really say anything mean when he's talking about stuff even when he's talking about his opinions. Gives facts too, and sources. I love it!
"HOW QUICKLY THEY FORGET..." People's perception rules over fact. FACT: Wayne most certainly is ONE of the GOAT's. That's inarguable. His output is Pac-esque. Wayne had a run from 06'-09' that was unprecedented. Only Drake's current run and Jay's run from 00'-06' rivals it. Wayne helped (alongside a couple other artists at the time) make lyricism interesting in the mainstream again! YMCMB is one of the most successful groups in hip hop history and birthed Drake and Niki's meteoric rise to superstardom. Not to mention the critically acclaimed and record breaking Carter series... Love him or hate em, the man has done so much for hip hop. Deserves the praise and then some.
Darrel Be NIGGA WAYNES RUN WAS LONGER THAN 06 to 09 DUMB BITCH!!!!! HE WAS THE MOST POPPIN RAPPER UNTIL 2013!!!!!!!! AND DEDICATION SIX JUST DROPPED AND HIS SONG FAMILY FUED IS #1 on TRENDING BITCH!
Dr Dre birthed more better artists, 50 Cent had a better career than Drake and Wayne. Honestly I didnt know anyone had this view point, even after listening to Carter 3 he didn't seem good. He has definitly effected alot of hip hop but the two biggest artists right now are drake and kendrick and I dont see many similarities between wayne and kendrick.
OleDirtyBastard No way 50 has had a better career than Wayne lmao. 50 has one classic album and a crazy run from 2002 to 2005 but after that he was cold as ice. Waynes run is from 05-09 where he slaughtered the rap game. All the Carter albums except number four are classics. Wayne is the single best mixtape rapper ever hands down no competition the Drought series, the Dedication series and No ceilings are classics. Wayne influenced Kendrick so much its insane. Kendrick did a whole mixtape with Waynes flow and his Carter 3 beats. Kendrick got his work ethic from Wayne.
I hope he releases carter 5. My only issue with Carter 5 being released is that Wayne has beef with Birdman and there's been so many things going on after Carter not being release. I think it would make sense for Wayne to talk about the label issues on C5 like he did on FWA and SFTW 2, it wouldn't make sense for him to congratulate Birdman on C5 like he did on previous projects. No matter what the circumstance is, I hope Carter 5 comes out and it becomes a classic. It looked like he anticipated the album being good by saying he would work harder on his music and apologizing to his fans for his 2013 output. If Carter 5 comes out and becomes a classic it will solidify him as the GOAT because hes been doing it for too long and deserves the respect, I hope Carter 5 changes the perception people have for him
We might have to give adlids to that fat f**k rick ross or khaled or one of these new guys like desiigner, you no, the guys that every word is an adlib.
bg23allday1 Just pointing out facts man. You can’t say he’s one of the greats when there’s a plethora of better rappers out there ever since hip hop first began.
Wayne gets criticized unfairly and other rappers aren't held to those same standards. People criticize Wayne for not having content on his music, Wayne has content but content is not what he chooses to have on his music most of the time. Rakim is viewed as one of the GOATs and I dont know shit about Rakim's life and views of the world, he was just a lyrcial dude same way as Wayne, we shouldnt discredit Wayne for dat. Also, Wayne is not a storyteller and dats unfair to criticize him for because storytelling isnt the most important aspect of hip hop, dats just one of the aspects. Also, people judge Wayne for being mainstream wit songs like Lollipop, but u need those songs in order to get recognition, at least hes not Eminem who uses the same formula wit songs like My Name Is, Berserk, We Made You, etc, I feel Wayne has never did a hit song like Lollipop ever again. I feel compare to other rappers they always lack something compared to Wayne, Eminem doesn't really evolve with rap style/subject matter only really changed it up with Recovery, Nas lacks mainstream appeal, Biggie and Tupac died at early age and dont have the body of work compared other rappers, Kanye isnt the most lyrical and uses a lot of ghostwriters, Jay Z could be boring and doesn't have the most charismatic flow. Wayne has charisma, versatility, mainstream appeal, melodies and different flows, and uses every form of rap whether its technical, wordplay, punchlines, personification, puns, alliteration, metaphors, etc.
I respect your viewpoint. For me I think that when it comes right down to it Wayne is a great no doubt but what stops people from saying his is the goat is that when you look at the areas he is weak in you can find many others that are phenomenal at it. When looking at who is the best it is both quality and quantity that help pick out others from the crowd. I personally dont believe in a goat but rather there are many who are bests at different aspects but there will always be others in response to one rapper.
Raisean W I find it interesting to listen to other Hip Hop heads' personal top 5 lists. Who are in your personal top 5? Just looking for a good discussion not hear to tear anyone down.
Raisean W That is a pretty dope list. I really like who you included and that it feels like a real list and not just another list of the usual suspects. For me my list changes from 3 and down but as of now I have 1- Lupe Fiasco. 2- Ab-Soul 3-Danny Brown 4- Big Boi 5- And for now it is between ScHoolboy Q and Isaiah Rashad.
I feel lyrically hes gotten better and his flow is more dynamic. I think mainly his voice is what irritates me a little, I can tolerate it but its still annoying. He has a very high pitch whiny sound now, even autotune cant help it. He had a high pitch sound before, but now it sounds bad. It seems like his voice became bad during 2014. Look at a song like Bounce feat 2 chainz, Wayne is spitting bars but his voice gets real annoying in the song. Even in his live performances, his voice dont sound the same. I think Wayne would benefit having a vocal coach in the studio wit him to make him sound better. A lot of rappers dont want vocal coaches, they believe dats more for singers
Anthony Celestin He already had a vocal coach. Betty Wright. She told Wayne that he didn't have to yell to get his point across. Yes, he raps at different octaves but his natural voice is kind of heavy. He's been around over 17 years and has a very huge catalog of music + touring and he smokes daily. That takes a toll on your voice.
Anthony Celestin I feel like his voice is instrumental to who he is as a rapper. think about it, you can't imagine him sounding like anything else and there's no one who sounds like him. his voice alone is unique. there's not one human being on earth who talks like Wayne.
***** U R so on point. People talk about his metaphors but 4get about his melodious technique. That separates him even more from other rappers. It's kind of like combining Nelly with Jay Z.
Wayne is A GOAT has done all the things proven and necessary for the title not saying he's the goat but to say he's not One of the Greatest to ever do is a lie.
90's rap loving aside, Big L died to quick to tell, dmx can't rap like the others on the list, Pac was an excellent communicator, but not a all star lyricist, Jada is not really my style but is very clever, EM said he would lose if he dissed Lil Wayne. I'd put Wayne as a goat but not THE GOAT
He's the first to completely swamp the game in incredible mixtapes. Those years he was dropping 5 projects a year... that was a new thing. And the product was incredibly dope. Prior to that, it was once a year at best.
@@popeye_thesailorman Yeah i think it should be lowered he literally made mumble rap. The first mumble rap song was lollipop by Lil Wayne also most mumble rappers have the name lil and trys to look like lil wayne.
To me, Carter V proved that Wayne still has it in the album lane with most people regarding it as his best album since C3. Dedication 6 (as well as D6 Reloaded) proved he still has it in the mixtape lane, and features such as his verse on 2 dollar bill proved he still has the ability to take the spotlight on someone else’s song. I know this was made in 2016 and Justin’s minor criticisms were definitely fair for the time but recently Wayne’s being killing it.
LightningPoweredART Lack of solo material to judge fairly also people just say he's amazing without actually giving reasons why. If you honestly think 3k is a GOAT then you MUST have Big Boi above him
"If someone came to me on the street and said Justin .... from..." . I just gotta smile whenever I hear this line :D love the GOAT videos, keep it up! greetings from Berlin
The only thing that hurts Wayne from a universal perception standpoint is that rappers in the 90s, especially NY rappers, kinda laid the blueprint before him on what lyricism really is. It’s subjective, but people who grew up on 90s lyricism think the lyricism was watered down when the South took over. Thats when the hip hop is dead thing started running around, post 50 cent and Jay z era. They don’t consider lyricism just about punchlines which Lil Wayne made popular but a whole bunch of literary devices which may include punchlines. But the generation that grew up on Wayne consider Wayne’s form or rapping lyrical... where you have to have a punchline every line or every other line regardless if you are saying anything significant. It’s real interesting. A lot of our music tastes are shaped when we are young
Wayne is most def. one of the GOAT, thanks for this. Where he went somewhere in the mid-00s, noone ever got to that level again. Also, you forgot to add that he was also the first dude to say "drop it like it's hot" on a track... before snoop took that line and made it his biggest hit single - also, be real... wayne has no classics besides maybe, ARGUABLY "like father, like son", "dedication 2" and "da drought 3" (one of them was dragged down by birdmans abysmal technical skill, the other 2 are mixtapes with next to no original beats). Tha Carter 3 had the material behind it to become a historic Classic - but most of that material was leaked and replaced with pretty mediocre pop-rap records. The album still has an arsenal of great songs, but its no blueprint.
Wayne is the only rapper I would refer to as a genius. His use of literary devices are on par with Shakespeare and Dylan (a very intelligent university Prof. actually wrote a book on this). He has all the hallmarks of a genius; he was a prodigy, he has a constant need to produce, he's eccentric, he's versatile, and has the single most original style in the history of the genre. He's one of the most impactfull artists of all-time in any genre and one of the greatest rappers of all-time.
I think it can be argued that Ye should be on that list. I get it's personal, but I truly believe that Ye was instrumental in providing a 'fresh' start for Hip Hop.
Hugo Davis Yeezy is a great artist, no doubt. But based solely on his rap skills he's not a GOAT. He's a great producer, a great director of music, and a very good rapper. He's hard to rank with anyone because there's truly no one like him.
doubllechief I like him but he ain't no genius. His bars are basic as shit at times. Any decent battle rapper has better bars. Flow wise he's charismatic but other than that he's not extremely unique. He's just good at it.
Yes that's true but there were times where I thought I just want some other rapper who is at the level of em or also fun to listen to.. This man was lil Wayne so he is at least numero 2
Apples and Oranges to me. I think Eminem is the better Lyricist and Lil wayne is the greatest Punch Line rapper ever I like listening to Wayne more though
Lil wayne is and will always be a force for hip hop, he paved the way through style, lyrics, ethics. Wayne will neva die just replicated...he is the King with Em right next to him.
Top 10 greatest rappers of all time 1.Lil Wayne (He is so lyrical and his wordplay is untouchable) 2.MF DOOM 3.Kendrick Lamar 4.Earl Sweatshirt (listen to hive then @me) 5.Eminem 6.Tupac 7.Biggie 8.Nas 9.Snoop dogg 10.DMX Honorable mention Joey Bada$$
I agree with 7 names on this list. I would omit Earl, Snoop, and DMX. And then replace them with Jay Z, Rakim, and Andre 3000. Now that’s a perfect top 10 if you ask me.
I say he ain't the GOAT but I say he's top 10 in the most influential rappers of all time and probably top 20 of all time in actual rapping. But his very early career before tha carter II is ehh and after tha carter IV he's fell off but he's recently been one of the best as a guest rapper for many tracks till we wait for tha carter V
From the time I was in 7th grade til the time I graduated high school you couldn’t turn on the radio without hearing Wayne. From 06-11 he was in a league of his own. I’m an admitted Kanye mark but you can’t deny Wayne’s meteoric success in the late 00’s.
I actually agree with bleunt. For every great Wayne track is there 10 shitty autotuned ones. Just because he made a lot of songs doesn't make him a G.O.A.T contender
Open your eyes people,you have to give props when due,that dude put in too much work in order not to be the Goat,aint none of those rappers did what he did point blank,the best Lyricist,Creativity,Versatility,and not only he did what the other rappers did and more but he was also a Trend setter also,Dreads,Face Tatts,Skateboarding,everybody trying to freestyle on tracks,skinny jeans,Vans shoes,Face piercings,although most of the stuff was already out but us as blacks wasnt doing none of these things until Wayne started doing them,this dude got over 4,000 songs out including features,aint a rapper in history got half of that sht and then this dude carried a Record label to the top of the rap game by hisself......the consistency he had was unbelievable,the influence on drake and nikki,aint a rapper on his Radar to be 100% Honest he killed everybody on there tracks even Em,every song Em and Wayne got together Bar for Bar Wayne kill his ass,and every song they did together he always try spitting tongue twisters,but you cant even repeat the verses,Bar for Bar Wayne kills him on No Love and Drop the World,go back to those songs and listen and pay attention,this niga did a song with everybody and brought people back from the dead when theyre careers we're over Dr.Carter
you should have mentioned "i feel like dying". I think that's a great track by wayne, and is a lot more metaphorical than most of his other tracks. I know it doesn't really fit entirely with the rest of the video, but I think it deserves at least a mention if you are going to talk about his lyrical skills.
Lil Wayne is the reason I got into rap and now all I listen to is rap! Greatest and my favorite of all time. Little Wayne little Wayne, your music made me insane :D
Lil Wayne is one of, if not the best ever, in my opinion. He also believes in unity. Has no contempt for the so called White People or any of that devisive shit. I love that man for life. He's the realest.
Sad thing about Wayne is he used to blur the line between quality and quantity. Sadly now we see the line. I think 'No Ceilings' was his last quality output. Outkast GOAT Tupac GOAT - might have to be 30 mins long
WEEZEY IS THE BEST RAPPER IS THE BEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME.. NOOOOO 1 CAN TOUCH HIM.. WHO CAN AND DOES SAY WHTEVA HE WANTS.. AND HE GETS AWAY WITH IT.. NO 1 CAN TOUCH HIM.. 💚💚💚💚 HIM ..
When the Carter III dropped, it was crazy, it was Lil' Wayne...and everybody else. I was like 7 years old in the 1st grade and the thought if Lil Wayne was larger than life.
In my opinion, sales and releases shouldn't even be considered as criteria for GOAT status. Those are measurements of business acumen and effective marketing. Those were the points made in the video that held any weight. And those were the only areas where you could draw comparisons with other artists. When you mentioned lyrics, you gave a brief example of his "silent g" line (which I think was good, even though inaccurate), but there was no real analysis of his lyricism. Can't be the GOAT without being one of the best lyricists. Deconstruct his lyrical style and technique, and this claim doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Is he a better lyricist than MF Doom? Nas? Pusha T? Black Thought? Kendrick Lamar? Joey Bada$$? Chuck D? Personally, I've always found Lil' Wayne's lyrics to be simple and banal. However, I cannot discredit him for fan base and success. It wasn't until the end of the video where you hear Scarface talking about Lil Wayne that I had to say, "Alright, I can see where he can be considered one of the greats." But then again, we've been in the age of the co-sign for a while now. Put Lil Wayne in a rap battle against Jay Electronica (both are from NOLA, right?) and who do you think is winning? And I don't think anybody's considering Jay Electronica as GOAT.
Bet u cant figure out this line by Wayne "I still got da vision like a line between two dots." You can't say Wayne ain't a lyricist, if u dont understand his lyrics, just because he puts his lyrics in a simple way dont mean its simple. A lot of people dont consider Wayne the GOAT cause of bullshit reasons and because hes mainstream. Aint the whole point of being a rapper is to try to have at least some mainstream recognition, even Nas had mainstream songs like Hate Me Now, Ruled the World, Mad you Look. People are overcritical of Wayne's lyrics, every rapper has bad lines. Illmatic is the bible of hip hop and he said "rollin two phillies together in the Bridge we called 'em oowops" on the song One Love. Nas talks about how he puts weed together when hes talkin about his friend in jail, it wasnt a bad line but its a pointless one. Dats not the best example, but other rapper and even greats had bad lines
+Anthony Celestin My friend, please give me more credit than that. It's a double entendre. "Da vision" = division (the symbol to divide). "A line between to dots" = Line of sight (the vision). The second meaning is reaching, but I'll allow it. It's a just line tho. What line led up to it? What followed it? What was the rhyme scheme for the verse. What was the delivery flow or the cadence of the verse? What stood out from the verse besides the punchlines? This is what I mean by *lyricism*. Of course many of the greats have had "bad lines", even questionable ones. But compare that line you've given from Wayne (and the rest of his verse) with this verse from Rebel Without a Pause by Chuck D. Decipher it in the context of the entire song. From a _rebel_ it's final on _black vinyl_ _Soul, rock & roll_ coming like a rhino _Tables turn_, suckas burn to learn They can't disable _the power of my label_ _Def Jam_ tells you who I am The _enemy's public_ -they really give a damn
Sheldon Jones He basically saying how labels like Def Jam control artist to create their music in a formulaic way and Chuck D is going against the status quo. Furthermore, he states how his music is rebellious and uses the public as a oxymoron to state in general that a enemy is evil and the audience have as much evil thoughts as himself and those are the ones that appreciate his music. I understand u value music dat has deep messages, but Wayne is a different type of rapper, plus it aint like he dont have music dat has messages, dat just not what he does often and hes not obligated to do dat. Wayne uses more figurative language where he makes non-human object have human abilities. Figurative language is part of literature and dats used in hip hop as well, u dont have to discredit him cause he dont rap the way u want him to rap.
Anthony Celestin I'm afraid you're interpretation is wrong regarding Def Jam. When this song was released, Public Enemy was Def Jam's biggest artist. Def Jam, Russell Simmons, and Rick Rubin were the ones who supported PE's music when no one else would (_the enemy is public_ = PE albums were released to the public; also a double entendre with wordplay on the group's name). Def Jam were proably the only label at the time that allowed their artists (PE, Beastie Boys, Slayer) the freedom to do their art, and they were successful in doing so (_the power of my label_). The earlier lines of that verse reference how hip hop (_tables turn_ = turntables; DJing) is a genre created by black people (_black vinyl_ = black music), like soul and rock were historically (_on black vinyl_ = on the record). And for the record, I made no mention of music being required to have a message. My original comment was that you can easily measure Wayne's sales and releases, and cannot doubt him for that success. But if you compare his lyrical abilities to other artists then he begins to slide down the list. You're entitled to your opinion about Lil Wayne (but not about Rebel Without a Pause tho). This is why this comment thread begins with, "In my opinion." And in my opinion, when it comes to hip hop, I will take poetry over punchlines all day everyday.
Weezy? the GOAT? probably. He's like the beatles of hip hop (or 2pac) when you think about it. while I have more respect for Kendrick Lamar projects, even he was influenced by Lil wayne.
Emmanuel Mondesir no cause u can say that ab a lot of other people. Eminem. Nas. NWA. Mobb Deep. Dr Dre, The game, Geto Boys like that's just a few and there plenty more
Apollo true but I think Wayne is in that category with Eminem and all the other great rappers bro look at the numbers he put in his career it's unheard of nowadays
Apollo here is the thing, wayne had the biggest influence on mainstream hip hop.even the great like kendrick lamar were influenced by him, most new rappers sound like poor men lil wayne. He changed the way rappers look,sound and the fact that you dont even need an album to blow up.Illmatic is the best but its influences lay more underground,same for eminem.the closest thing to major influence on the game was tupac.
"LIL WAYNE" *Tha Block Is Hot (1999) Lights Out (2000) 500 Degreez (2002) *Da Drought (2003) *Da Drought 2 (2004) *The Prefix (2004) *Tha Carter (2004) *Tha Carter II (2005) *The Suffix (2005) *The Dedication (2005) *The Dedication 2 (2006) *Da Drought 3 (2007) *Tha Carter III (2008) *Dedication 3 (2008) *No Ceilings (2009) Rebirth (2010) *I Am Not a Human Being (2010) *Tha Carter IV (2011) *Sorry 4 The Wait (2011) I Am Not a Human Being II (2013) Sorry 4 The Wait 2 (2013) Free Weezy Album (2015) No Ceilings 2 (2015) T-Wayne (w/T-Pain) 2017 Dedication 6 (2017) Dedication 6: Reloaded (2018) Tha Carter V (2018) Funeral (2020) No Ceilings 3 (2020) Trust Fund Babies (w/Rich the Kid) 2021 Tha Carter VI (2023) I Am Not a Human Being III (2023)
Y'all ppl saying Wayne ain't top 10 or top 5...they rappers write...Wayne don't let that sink in..he Impacted hip hop more than any rapper..and today still he!
Al-Hamzi AB Wayne can never be the best rapper alive cause Wayne him self said jayz is the best rapper alive .. you not the best if u say someone else is the best.. and he is contradictive.. look at it for your self utube".Jay z fr Wayne hello Brooklyn live " skip to the end where Wayne is performing a line from Duffle Bag Boy and watch what he does next
Lol what u mean he can never be the best rapper alive 😅 Actually when he said Jay z is the best, that was a long time ago "when jay z was in the game" ! But Jay z never worked hard as Wayne since he started his career lol ✌😂 U gatta believe life changes :) #WayneIsTheBestRapperAlive
Yo man love The video u doing I have been watching all of them for like the last 7 hours straight..... Do more GOAT videos u really. Make some great cases that I never would of thought about... I'm a Andre 3000 fan so I love the one u did on him... U made great cases for Wayne and Redman lol never would of thought...
I mean, I'm no wayne fan, but mid-2000's wayne was legendary. When he went on your beat, it wasn't your beat anymore.
exactly
And when em completely demolished him on eminems song, Wayne made absolutely no sense with his lyrics
Billy Smith Wait Wayne bodied Em on No love.
Jason Crownover ask Mike Jones lls
@@BigScoobJ nah, not a chance. And even if he did, they all got heated up on Forever
There can't be one GOAT but there are a few rappers who fit that criteria , Wayne is one of them
agreed
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Jay-Z, Eminem, Biggie, Kendrick, Lil Wayne, Redman & Andre 3000 are the Goat in my eyes and there is a list of other great rappers.
JddSaun montana of 300
Nas?
Lil Wayne's wordplay is out of this world
Absolutely.
Marcus Babb he has plus Lil Wayne influenced Kendrick
Marcus Babb the first 3 Carter serious are classics then some of the mixtapes people are honest Wayne hasn't had a good project in a while
Marcus Babb the Carter 3 is better than every album Kendrick released
@Marcus Babb he has like 5 critically acclaimed albums
I like how you speak from what you experienced with his music and don't let anyone's opinion cloud your judgements of him great job
Thank you, Sean.
@@hiphopdx can u do one on big L he was so underrated
Weezy da greatest musician of all time 💯
Sick of all the internet fans trying to claim "real hip hop" when they have no knowledge of Tune's output and influence.
Wayne literally did everything you could accomplish as a rapper
@SnakeAdams how u know?
Carter 2 is one of the greatest rap albums ever!
Criminally underrated album. Definitely a classic
2chainz is the GOAT
Idk I personally like carter one the best
@@MALI-hm8tc this is the Carter y'all welcome hard as Malcolm dark as a falcon lord help em
*They throw dirt on my name but I guess that's why they still dig me* 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Throw dirt on me and grew a wildflower
Drag my name through the mud, I come out clean. Cast away stones, I won’t even blink.
@@divinej2148 that shit is just too fucking clean
"I speak the truth but I guess that's a foreign language to yall." - Lil Waynw. You haters dont like the fact of how great he is and wayne knows it.
Yes P that’s true it is to them
Yes P not the goat come on
Luke Furlong yeah he is
@@youngchristian4540 come on bro he not the goat
@@mrb-btw Lol
Wayne’s punchlines and wordplay are insane. Like you gotta pause just to gather your thoughts and catch your breath and fully realize what he just said. I’m 31. Been listening to Wayne since 04
I know this channel treats hip hop objectively and doesnt favour or diss any rapper and this is a good thing.
But lil wayne is more a goat than a G.O.A.T. for sure.
I know the answer to this question
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Benjamin Jasar ow darn brutally honest
HipHopDX you gonna do Nas next
I wrote the comment before I watched the video and now after that I actualy have little (just a little) more respect for him
Salute, Benjamin. Thank you.
Tupac will always be the GOAT for me, but Lil Wayne is definitely top 5 all time. Weezy is my 2nd favorite rapper, so its good to see him get the appreciation he deserves. It seems lately people love to hate him and say he's trash. Tha Carter II, Tha Carter III, The Dedication 2, Da Drought 3, No Ceilings, Free Weezy Album, Sorry For Tha Wait 2, and so many others. Wayne is truly a legend and that cant be denied.
Timinator92 Lil Wayne is The GOAT 🐐 but remember there's more than one legend
Timinator92 Where Carter 4 at? that album is just as good as c2 and c3 imo
Drought is over 2 bruh.. that mixtape is unbelievable
Aaron9 he’s the goat
@Aaron9 Wayne isn't garbage. U must mean rich the kid, smokepurpp, lil pump, are 🗑. U haven't listen to the old lil Wayne. U must not have heard his punchlines and lyricism 😴 .can u do better than Wayne 😴
The dislikes reflect how many people are in denial. Not too many give Wayne credit for his greatness. He was always lyrical and definitely stood out. His skill on wordplay and metaphors is amazing.
GOAT.
name no one knows those first 3 rappers only knew smif n Wesson those other rap groups were underground rappers
The people who hate on Wayne are dickriding 2Pac groupies that can’t accept that 2Pac wasn’t all that
Lil Wayne is a victim of public perception. PERIOD. If any other rapper had his track record we likely wouldn't even be having a convo questioning his greatness at all. Many people are simply prisoners of the moment and sometimes even the past and they don't know how to exercise objectivity.
Maybe. Most rappers that get that big get hit with flak. It's a give and take
Alex .Pruyn wym ?
WE LIT All great rappers are victims of public perception. Truly great rappers can go beyond all the bad things, like PAC. Is Wayne really a great? Or is he a pop rapper that led to the overall downfall of rap in general? Depends who you ask. I think he was good in his day but as he went on and got commercialized he dropped drastically. That's his doings, not the public perception.
Alex .Pruyn in quality of music when you say he dropped drastically ?
WE LIT yes
This dude is as iconic as pac like hate him or love him....he made it do what it do
Everyone loves pac. Even the new generation. Lil Wayne gets hate from the old heads.
@@bharathk98 because Lil Wayne influenced many modern rappers that are very hated, but he's still the Goat tho
And lil Wayne ain’t have to die in order to be as iconic
@Aaron9 lil Wayne is a hip hop legend and way better than a lot of rappers and is one of the most influential in hip hop
In his own lane no where near Pac!
I just wanna say Wayne has more bars in one song then most rappers do in their whole album
This is why hiphopdx is great.this was the truth these idiots needed.salute to DX & Weezy.
Thank you!
His work ethic
His revolutionary style(super influencial)
His amount of classics(AT LEAST 2 albums, if not 3)
His great mixtapes
His longevity combined to his relatively young age
His INCREDIBLE Wordplay
His good lyricism with great punchlines
That's what makes him enter the GOAT conversation.
Lucas your seriously delusional and highly insane Rakim will destroy Wayne both lyrically and flow and Rakim invented lyricsim and flow and internal rhyme schemes and phrases and multi slllyables use and Rakim single handily changed the entire landscape for all rappers and emcees including Wayne and Rakim wrote a book called sweat the technique and it’s a statement that Wayne can never say and Rakim is the only rapper/emcee with a iconic and timeless one verse classic with paid in full,,,, and Wayne could never spit followi the leader and lyrics of fury or holy are you,,,real talk and facts
And he uses ghost writers
nas clears him
@@coztubofficial2668 Rakim made Nas look stupid on the Nike classic track
@@vernonjohnson1198 bro rakim is just the god mc from 90s no doubt 🐐 and he retired but nas still in the game
Wayne made my whole childhood,, born and raised listening to Lil Wayne and I still do.. He's undoubtedly the greatest millennial of all time.
this is honestly one of my favorite channels of all time. I like it because it reminds me of like a Mathew santoro video, but about rap. The host is gives off a super friendly vibe, he doesn't really say anything mean when he's talking about stuff even when he's talking about his opinions. Gives facts too, and sources. I love it!
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We need a Ice Cube: The Greatest Rapper Of All Time
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Definitely.
No
"HOW QUICKLY THEY FORGET..." People's perception rules over fact. FACT: Wayne most certainly is ONE of the GOAT's. That's inarguable. His output is Pac-esque. Wayne had a run from 06'-09' that was unprecedented. Only Drake's current run and Jay's run from 00'-06' rivals it. Wayne helped (alongside a couple other artists at the time) make lyricism interesting in the mainstream again! YMCMB is one of the most successful groups in hip hop history and birthed Drake and Niki's meteoric rise to superstardom. Not to mention the critically acclaimed and record breaking Carter series... Love him or hate em, the man has done so much for hip hop. Deserves the praise and then some.
Darrel Be NIGGA WAYNES RUN WAS LONGER THAN 06 to 09 DUMB BITCH!!!!! HE WAS THE MOST POPPIN RAPPER UNTIL 2013!!!!!!!! AND DEDICATION SIX JUST DROPPED AND HIS SONG FAMILY FUED IS #1 on TRENDING BITCH!
Darrel Be ?
Dr Dre birthed more better artists, 50 Cent had a better career than Drake and Wayne. Honestly I didnt know anyone had this view point, even after listening to Carter 3 he didn't seem good. He has definitly effected alot of hip hop but the two biggest artists right now are drake and kendrick and I dont see many similarities between wayne and kendrick.
OleDirtyBastard No way 50 has had a better career than Wayne lmao. 50 has one classic album and a crazy run from 2002 to 2005 but after that he was cold as ice. Waynes run is from 05-09 where he slaughtered the rap game. All the Carter albums except number four are classics. Wayne is the single best mixtape rapper ever hands down no competition the Drought series, the Dedication series and No ceilings are classics. Wayne influenced Kendrick so much its insane. Kendrick did a whole mixtape with Waynes flow and his Carter 3 beats. Kendrick got his work ethic from Wayne.
@@jack7972 Lyrically, Wayne would Wash 50. Bar for Bar.
I hope he releases carter 5. My only issue with Carter 5 being released is that Wayne has beef with Birdman and there's been so many things going on after Carter not being release. I think it would make sense for Wayne to talk about the label issues on C5 like he did on FWA and SFTW 2, it wouldn't make sense for him to congratulate Birdman on C5 like he did on previous projects. No matter what the circumstance is, I hope Carter 5 comes out and it becomes a classic. It looked like he anticipated the album being good by saying he would work harder on his music and apologizing to his fans for his 2013 output. If Carter 5 comes out and becomes a classic it will solidify him as the GOAT because hes been doing it for too long and deserves the respect, I hope Carter 5 changes the perception people have for him
Anthony Celestin it’s done C5 2018 now what do u think ?
Wayne has the best hooks,flows, mixtakes and word play, hate all you want
Ninad Ganore ..and adlibs
Ninad Ganore dont forget punchlines
Ninad Ganore finally a post of fax
We might have to give adlids to that fat f**k rick ross or khaled or one of these new guys like desiigner, you no, the guys that every word is an adlib.
love this comment! thats what people forget he has more flows than rapper ever! people hate just cause, but they're dumb and don't know rap
Lil Wayne is top 10 all time, not for sales but ability. Don't discredit his skill on the mic.
JamelB “Dear Mr. Toilet, I’m the shit”
Wallace West in the words of Vince Staples, “every rapper got boof lines”
bg23allday1 Not as much as Lil Wayne has
Wallace West now you sound like a hater, no disrespect
bg23allday1 Just pointing out facts man. You can’t say he’s one of the greats when there’s a plethora of better rappers out there ever since hip hop first began.
Wayne gets criticized unfairly and other rappers aren't held to those same standards. People criticize Wayne for not having content on his music, Wayne has content but content is not what he chooses to have on his music most of the time. Rakim is viewed as one of the GOATs and I dont know shit about Rakim's life and views of the world, he was just a lyrcial dude same way as Wayne, we shouldnt discredit Wayne for dat. Also, Wayne is not a storyteller and dats unfair to criticize him for because storytelling isnt the most important aspect of hip hop, dats just one of the aspects. Also, people judge Wayne for being mainstream wit songs like Lollipop, but u need those songs in order to get recognition, at least hes not Eminem who uses the same formula wit songs like My Name Is, Berserk, We Made You, etc, I feel Wayne has never did a hit song like Lollipop ever again. I feel compare to other rappers they always lack something compared to Wayne, Eminem doesn't really evolve with rap style/subject matter only really changed it up with Recovery, Nas lacks mainstream appeal, Biggie and Tupac died at early age and dont have the body of work compared other rappers, Kanye isnt the most lyrical and uses a lot of ghostwriters, Jay Z could be boring and doesn't have the most charismatic flow. Wayne has charisma, versatility, mainstream appeal, melodies and different flows, and uses every form of rap whether its technical, wordplay, punchlines, personification, puns, alliteration, metaphors, etc.
I respect your viewpoint. For me I think that when it comes right down to it Wayne is a great no doubt but what stops people from saying his is the goat is that when you look at the areas he is weak in you can find many others that are phenomenal at it. When looking at who is the best it is both quality and quantity that help pick out others from the crowd. I personally dont believe in a goat but rather there are many who are bests at different aspects but there will always be others in response to one rapper.
Raisean W I find it interesting to listen to other Hip Hop heads' personal top 5 lists. Who are in your personal top 5? Just looking for a good discussion not hear to tear anyone down.
Anthony Celestin the length of your comment doesn't stop it being stupid af
Anthony Celestin From one LilWayne fan to another. I Salute!
Raisean W That is a pretty dope list. I really like who you included and that it feels like a real list and not just another list of the usual suspects. For me my list changes from 3 and down but as of now I have
1- Lupe Fiasco.
2- Ab-Soul
3-Danny Brown
4- Big Boi
5- And for now it is between ScHoolboy Q and Isaiah Rashad.
People don't wanna hear this, But LilWayne is actually better now than he was during the early Carter days. That's what's so fukin scary.
P.S. GOAT
I feel lyrically hes gotten better and his flow is more dynamic. I think mainly his voice is what irritates me a little, I can tolerate it but its still annoying. He has a very high pitch whiny sound now, even autotune cant help it. He had a high pitch sound before, but now it sounds bad. It seems like his voice became bad during 2014. Look at a song like Bounce feat 2 chainz, Wayne is spitting bars but his voice gets real annoying in the song. Even in his live performances, his voice dont sound the same. I think Wayne would benefit having a vocal coach in the studio wit him to make him sound better. A lot of rappers dont want vocal coaches, they believe dats more for singers
Anthony Celestin He already had a vocal coach. Betty Wright. She told Wayne that he didn't have to yell to get his point across. Yes, he raps at different octaves but his natural voice is kind of heavy. He's been around over 17 years and has a very huge catalog of music + touring and he smokes daily. That takes a toll on your voice.
Anthony Celestin I feel like his voice is instrumental to who he is as a rapper. think about it, you can't imagine him sounding like anything else and there's no one who sounds like him. his voice alone is unique. there's not one human being on earth who talks like Wayne.
***** U R so on point. People talk about his metaphors but 4get about his melodious technique. That separates him even more from other rappers. It's kind of like combining Nelly with Jay Z.
Wayne is A GOAT has done all the things proven and necessary for the title not saying he's the goat but to say he's not One of the Greatest to ever do is a lie.
ERRoN KiNG W
ERRoN KiNG W
90's rap loving aside, Big L died to quick to tell, dmx can't rap like the others on the list, Pac was an excellent communicator, but not a all star lyricist, Jada is not really my style but is very clever, EM said he would lose if he dissed Lil Wayne. I'd put Wayne as a goat but not THE GOAT
WRONG. WAYNE CANT FREESTYLE, CANT BATTLE AND CANT WRITE MULTI-SYLLABLE RHYMES. A GOAT IS A FULL PACKAGE.
ballerb232430 he cant frestyle at all, never battled you dont know what you talking about,
Wayne definitely Tha GOAT 🐐🐐🔥
Eric Escibedi Wayne
When it comes to lyrics, flow, punchlines, melodies, style, features, influence etc. Wayne is literally the greatest to ever do it no debate
Facts
Influence, lyrics, flow, features no…
@@chosenundead9841definitely influence
Andre 3000: The Greatest Rapper of All Time would be an early Christmas gift :)
he cant be a GOAT
SSJ5 Gogeta in Your opinion he isn't but objectively speaking his work in his career deserves to at least be in the conversation.
He good too but he afraid to release music on his own
Ruse FBomb not true
He's talented, but where's a fucking album?
I'm not a fan BUT you make a great argument. His volume needs to recognized, it's undeniable.
Completely revolutionized the game.
HipHopDX How did wayne changed the game? Just curious?
He's the first to completely swamp the game in incredible mixtapes. Those years he was dropping 5 projects a year... that was a new thing. And the product was incredibly dope. Prior to that, it was once a year at best.
Lil Wayne: I’m the best rapper alive
Other rappers:
Lil Wayne will forever be the GOAT, PERIOD!!!
Aaron9
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@Aaron9 He is top 50 tho
@@popeye_thesailorman Yeah i think it should be lowered he literally made mumble rap. The first mumble rap song was lollipop by Lil Wayne also most mumble rappers have the name lil and trys to look like lil wayne.
@@kanyenorth8449 what a clown
The people who hate on Wayne are dickriding 2Pac groupies that can’t accept that 2Pac wasn’t all that
I don't know why Lil Wayne's so underrated. He can be top 10 easily.
God's Son NaS is better than him
Hes not underrated. He belongs where he sits.
Underated??? He's actually the most overated rapper just behind Drake!!!
God's Son number one
Joseph Robinson top 15-20
i love this series.i dont care which rappers yall or you justin choose its awesome.just wanted to say that
Thank you, NV! That's love.
lil Wayne is a g.o.a.t period hell if he's called the best rapper alive that's pretty much saying he is the greatest
Carter V is absolutely incredible. One of the greatest albums of all time...
To me, Carter V proved that Wayne still has it in the album lane with most people regarding it as his best album since C3. Dedication 6 (as well as D6 Reloaded) proved he still has it in the mixtape lane, and features such as his verse on 2 dollar bill proved he still has the ability to take the spotlight on someone else’s song. I know this was made in 2016 and Justin’s minor criticisms were definitely fair for the time but recently Wayne’s being killing it.
I LOVE HIP HOP DX!! favorite channel for studying the greats and learning vicariously from their experiences. appreciate you guys!
word.
ikr, why does it have so many dislikes? wtf they are great
A *lot* has changed in 5 years for Wayne, he definitely has a lot better case for the GOAT in 2021 than in 2016
Dedication 6 and reloaded and Carter 5 and Funeral has solidified the all time for me. He was already the best alive
exactly. Fucking tired of these ignorant em fans lol
Wayne is a top 5 hip hop artist dead or alive. He's a 10/10 in punchlines, charisma, versatility and originality.
top 5 but not 5 or 4 or 3 or 2
MF DOOM!
Aries Definitely.
holy shit its aries😂
oh shit
Hell yes...I think MF is about as good as it gets man
roccorostagno do u listen to Wayne?
Lil Wayne is the greatest of all time, no one will be on his level
i love this series :)
Thanks ABD!
***** :]
bruh where did you come from lol
Why haven't you done one on Andre 3k?!?!?!
He gotta do one ASAP
3 stacks is overrated
why?
+Steven Bain those are fighting words
LightningPoweredART
Lack of solo material to judge fairly
also people just say he's amazing without actually giving reasons why. If you honestly think 3k is a GOAT then you MUST have Big Boi above him
"If someone came to me on the street and said Justin .... from..." .
I just gotta smile whenever I hear this line :D love the GOAT videos, keep it up! greetings from Berlin
Salute, Take2!
The only thing that hurts Wayne from a universal perception standpoint is that rappers in the 90s, especially NY rappers, kinda laid the blueprint before him on what lyricism really is. It’s subjective, but people who grew up on 90s lyricism think the lyricism was watered down when the South took over. Thats when the hip hop is dead thing started running around, post 50 cent and Jay z era. They don’t consider lyricism just about punchlines which Lil Wayne made popular but a whole bunch of literary devices which may include punchlines.
But the generation that grew up on Wayne consider Wayne’s form or rapping lyrical... where you have to have a punchline every line or every other line regardless if you are saying anything significant.
It’s real interesting. A lot of our music tastes are shaped when we are young
I agree with this.
I knew Wayne was special when I first heard that "lights out" album. been my favorite ever since.
His word play on Lights Out 🔥
Wayne is most def. one of the GOAT, thanks for this. Where he went somewhere in the mid-00s, noone ever got to that level again. Also, you forgot to add that he was also the first dude to say "drop it like it's hot" on a track... before snoop took that line and made it his biggest hit single - also, be real... wayne has no classics besides maybe, ARGUABLY "like father, like son", "dedication 2" and "da drought 3" (one of them was dragged down by birdmans abysmal technical skill, the other 2 are mixtapes with next to no original beats).
Tha Carter 3 had the material behind it to become a historic Classic - but most of that material was leaked and replaced with pretty mediocre pop-rap records. The album still has an arsenal of great songs, but its no blueprint.
Lil Wayne is the best ever!
Nar
Wayne the GOAT, no one can ever take his place. He's so high you can't even reach him with a fucking antenna 👌👌👌
weezy is the goat hands down
Wayne is the only rapper I would refer to as a genius. His use of literary devices are on par with Shakespeare and Dylan (a very intelligent university Prof. actually wrote a book on this). He has all the hallmarks of a genius; he was a prodigy, he has a constant need to produce, he's eccentric, he's versatile, and has the single most original style in the history of the genre. He's one of the most impactfull artists of all-time in any genre and one of the greatest rappers of all-time.
The G.O.A.T.'s (in no particular order)
Big
Em
Jay
Wayne
Kendrick
Pac
Nas
It's hard to do what Wayne did when you're dead...
I think it can be argued that Ye should be on that list. I get it's personal, but I truly believe that Ye was instrumental in providing a 'fresh' start for Hip Hop.
Hugo Davis Yeezy is a great artist, no doubt. But based solely on his rap skills he's not a GOAT. He's a great producer, a great director of music, and a very good rapper. He's hard to rank with anyone because there's truly no one like him.
doubllechief I like him but he ain't no genius. His bars are basic as shit at times. Any decent battle rapper has better bars. Flow wise he's charismatic but other than that he's not extremely unique. He's just good at it.
He is the prototype he can mumble rap for the youngins and get lyrical
Yes, Lil Wayne is the greatest rapper of all time.
Jafar S. The haters will come though
COD Killer Chris Let em! They can't do nothing about it.
Son Goku those are all well known rappers what you are saying is nothing special
Mikail Haroon lol ignore him brah, he thinks he has some special hip hop knowledge, i didn't want to ruin that feeling for him.
Jafar S. true haha
He’s ONE of the GOATs. There’s also Biggie, Nas, Jay-Z & ... Eminem.
Majority loves eminem more than Lil wayne but there are some people like me who loves Lil wayne more than every other rapper (of all time).
Yes that's true but there were times where I thought I just want some other rapper who is at the level of em or also fun to listen to.. This man was lil Wayne so he is at least numero 2
Apples and Oranges to me.
I think Eminem is the better Lyricist and Lil wayne is the greatest Punch Line rapper ever
I like listening to Wayne more though
Lil wayne is and will always be a force for hip hop, he paved the way through style, lyrics, ethics. Wayne will neva die just replicated...he is the King with Em right next to him.
After watching a ton of these I can confidently say you are the GOAT of hip-hop news and entertainment. Keep it up, dude.
No Ceilings literally showed he can take anybody's track (even Beyonce) and turn it into a hit lyrically or flow wise
Top 10 greatest rappers of all time
1.Lil Wayne (He is so lyrical and his wordplay is untouchable)
2.MF DOOM
3.Kendrick Lamar
4.Earl Sweatshirt (listen to hive then @me)
5.Eminem
6.Tupac
7.Biggie
8.Nas
9.Snoop dogg
10.DMX
Honorable mention Joey Bada$$
Get the f outta here with that bullshit
You can’t put a sweatshirt over em pac an biggie gtfo😂😂
I agree with 7 names on this list. I would omit Earl, Snoop, and DMX. And then replace them with Jay Z, Rakim, and Andre 3000. Now that’s a perfect top 10 if you ask me.
He's my GOAT
smh
cortez smith smd
cortez smith smd
7 years later, between his recent albums and his feature run, I think Wayne is known for his work again
the fastest 11 minutes ever. btw Wayne is the GOAT and u sir a legend. keep the good work my nigga.
I say he ain't the GOAT but I say he's top 10 in the most influential rappers of all time and probably top 20 of all time in actual rapping. But his very early career before tha carter II is ehh and after tha carter IV he's fell off but he's recently been one of the best as a guest rapper for many tracks till we wait for tha carter V
Ever Verduzco I agree with this. W
Ever Verduzco no he's top 10 of all the time
Top 20? Hell no!! Maybe top 100, but definitely not top 20.
why not top 20? give me a good reason why.
Top 5
One of the greatest rappers ever
Lil Wayne has passion, energy, lyricism,metaphors, witty verses, unique flows. KRS-One said he was a great MC. Enough said.
From the time I was in 7th grade til the time I graduated high school you couldn’t turn on the radio without hearing Wayne. From 06-11 he was in a league of his own. I’m an admitted Kanye mark but you can’t deny Wayne’s meteoric success in the late 00’s.
Quality > quantity.
bleunt what you trying to say?
bleunt if you’re implying that wayne doesn’t produce quality then you haven’t heard wayne
I actually agree with bleunt. For every great Wayne track is there 10 shitty autotuned ones. Just because he made a lot of songs doesn't make him a G.O.A.T contender
He has both
Magnus P1 Wtf are you saying? C2, Tha Block Is Hot, C3, Da Drought, No Ceilings... All projects with no skip tracks. Also he kills always his features
Open your eyes people,you have to give props when due,that dude put in too much work in order not to be the Goat,aint none of those rappers did what he did point blank,the best Lyricist,Creativity,Versatility,and not only he did what the other rappers did and more but he was also a Trend setter also,Dreads,Face Tatts,Skateboarding,everybody trying to freestyle on tracks,skinny jeans,Vans shoes,Face piercings,although most of the stuff was already out but us as blacks wasnt doing none of these things until Wayne started doing them,this dude got over 4,000 songs out including features,aint a rapper in history got half of that sht and then this dude carried a Record label to the top of the rap game by hisself......the consistency he had was unbelievable,the influence on drake and nikki,aint a rapper on his Radar to be 100% Honest he killed everybody on there tracks even Em,every song Em and Wayne got together Bar for Bar Wayne kill his ass,and every song they did together he always try spitting tongue twisters,but you cant even repeat the verses,Bar for Bar Wayne kills him on No Love and Drop the World,go back to those songs and listen and pay attention,this niga did a song with everybody and brought people back from the dead when theyre careers we're over Dr.Carter
you should have mentioned "i feel like dying". I think that's a great track by wayne, and is a lot more metaphorical than most of his other tracks. I know it doesn't really fit entirely with the rest of the video, but I think it deserves at least a mention if you are going to talk about his lyrical skills.
From mid/late 2006 until around 2010/2011. Lil Wayne was on a Michael Jackson level of stardom.
Lil Wayne is the reason I got into rap and now all I listen to is rap! Greatest and my favorite of all time. Little Wayne little Wayne, your music made me insane :D
Lil Wayne is one of, if not the best ever, in my opinion. He also believes in unity. Has no contempt for the so called White People or any of that devisive shit. I love that man for life. He's the realest.
Sad thing about Wayne is he used to blur the line between quality and quantity. Sadly now we see the line. I think 'No Ceilings' was his last quality output.
Outkast GOAT
Tupac GOAT - might have to be 30 mins long
Lol no. Lil Wayne>Mumble rap. Most 90s and early 2000s rapper>Lil wayne. Tupac and Outkast>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lil Wayne
P Money 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 No words lol you're telling Wayne is better than Andre 3000 AND Pac
Those would be serious episodes.
HipHopDX Biggie = GOAT
@@hiphopdx can u do a goat piece of j cole, big L, or childish Gambino
WEEZEY IS THE BEST RAPPER IS THE BEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME.. NOOOOO 1 CAN TOUCH HIM.. WHO CAN AND DOES SAY WHTEVA HE WANTS.. AND HE GETS AWAY WITH IT.. NO 1 CAN TOUCH HIM.. 💚💚💚💚 HIM ..
When the Carter III dropped, it was crazy, it was Lil' Wayne...and everybody else. I was like 7 years old in the 1st grade and the thought if Lil Wayne was larger than life.
Lil Wayne is the best thing to ever happen to rap. He's the most influential trendsetter and his raps are top tier. GOAT 🐐🐐🐐🐐
legit Wayne walked so modern rap can run
That was 10 times better than his actual verse on Swagga Like Us
In my opinion, sales and releases shouldn't even be considered as criteria for GOAT status. Those are measurements of business acumen and effective marketing. Those were the points made in the video that held any weight. And those were the only areas where you could draw comparisons with other artists. When you mentioned lyrics, you gave a brief example of his "silent g" line (which I think was good, even though inaccurate), but there was no real analysis of his lyricism. Can't be the GOAT without being one of the best lyricists. Deconstruct his lyrical style and technique, and this claim doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Is he a better lyricist than MF Doom? Nas? Pusha T? Black Thought? Kendrick Lamar? Joey Bada$$? Chuck D? Personally, I've always found Lil' Wayne's lyrics to be simple and banal. However, I cannot discredit him for fan base and success. It wasn't until the end of the video where you hear Scarface talking about Lil Wayne that I had to say, "Alright, I can see where he can be considered one of the greats." But then again, we've been in the age of the co-sign for a while now. Put Lil Wayne in a rap battle against Jay Electronica (both are from NOLA, right?) and who do you think is winning? And I don't think anybody's considering Jay Electronica as GOAT.
Sheldon Jones agreed
Bet u cant figure out this line by Wayne "I still got da vision like a line between two dots." You can't say Wayne ain't a lyricist, if u dont understand his lyrics, just because he puts his lyrics in a simple way dont mean its simple. A lot of people dont consider Wayne the GOAT cause of bullshit reasons and because hes mainstream. Aint the whole point of being a rapper is to try to have at least some mainstream recognition, even Nas had mainstream songs like Hate Me Now, Ruled the World, Mad you Look. People are overcritical of Wayne's lyrics, every rapper has bad lines. Illmatic is the bible of hip hop and he said "rollin two phillies together in the Bridge we called 'em oowops" on the song One Love. Nas talks about how he puts weed together when hes talkin about his friend in jail, it wasnt a bad line but its a pointless one. Dats not the best example, but other rapper and even greats had bad lines
+Anthony Celestin My friend, please give me more credit than that. It's a double entendre. "Da vision" = division (the symbol to divide). "A line between to dots" = Line of sight (the vision). The second meaning is reaching, but I'll allow it. It's a just line tho. What line led up to it? What followed it? What was the rhyme scheme for the verse. What was the delivery flow or the cadence of the verse? What stood out from the verse besides the punchlines? This is what I mean by *lyricism*. Of course many of the greats have had "bad lines", even questionable ones. But compare that line you've given from Wayne (and the rest of his verse) with this verse from Rebel Without a Pause by Chuck D. Decipher it in the context of the entire song.
From a _rebel_ it's final on _black vinyl_
_Soul, rock & roll_ coming like a rhino
_Tables turn_, suckas burn to learn
They can't disable _the power of my label_
_Def Jam_ tells you who I am
The _enemy's public_ -they really give a damn
Sheldon Jones He basically saying how labels like Def Jam control artist to create their music in a formulaic way and Chuck D is going against the status quo. Furthermore, he states how his music is rebellious and uses the public as a oxymoron to state in general that a enemy is evil and the audience have as much evil thoughts as himself and those are the ones that appreciate his music. I understand u value music dat has deep messages, but Wayne is a different type of rapper, plus it aint like he dont have music dat has messages, dat just not what he does often and hes not obligated to do dat. Wayne uses more figurative language where he makes non-human object have human abilities. Figurative language is part of literature and dats used in hip hop as well, u dont have to discredit him cause he dont rap the way u want him to rap.
Anthony Celestin
I'm afraid you're interpretation is wrong regarding Def Jam. When this song was released, Public Enemy was Def Jam's biggest artist. Def Jam, Russell Simmons, and Rick Rubin were the ones who supported PE's music when no one else would (_the enemy is public_ = PE albums were released to the public; also a double entendre with wordplay on the group's name). Def Jam were proably the only label at the time that allowed their artists (PE, Beastie Boys, Slayer) the freedom to do their art, and they were successful in doing so (_the power of my label_). The earlier lines of that verse reference how hip hop (_tables turn_ = turntables; DJing) is a genre created by black people (_black vinyl_ = black music), like soul and rock were historically (_on black vinyl_ = on the record).
And for the record, I made no mention of music being required to have a message. My original comment was that you can easily measure Wayne's sales and releases, and cannot doubt him for that success. But if you compare his lyrical abilities to other artists then he begins to slide down the list. You're entitled to your opinion about Lil Wayne (but not about Rebel Without a Pause tho). This is why this comment thread begins with, "In my opinion." And in my opinion, when it comes to hip hop, I will take poetry over punchlines all day everyday.
Weezy? the GOAT? probably. He's like the beatles of hip hop (or 2pac) when you think about it. while I have more respect for Kendrick Lamar projects, even he was influenced by Lil wayne.
Emmanuel Mondesir he changed the game bro
Hector Rodriguez that what I said. hes not the BOAT but his influence on the game makes him the GOAT.
Emmanuel Mondesir no cause u can say that ab a lot of other people. Eminem. Nas. NWA. Mobb Deep. Dr Dre, The game, Geto Boys like that's just a few and there plenty more
Apollo true but I think Wayne is in that category with Eminem and all the other great rappers bro look at the numbers he put in his career it's unheard of nowadays
Apollo here is the thing, wayne had the biggest influence on mainstream hip hop.even the great like kendrick lamar were influenced by him, most new rappers sound like poor men lil wayne. He changed the way rappers look,sound and the fact that you dont even need an album to blow up.Illmatic is the best but its influences lay more underground,same for eminem.the closest thing to major influence on the game was tupac.
Nobody could touch 2005-2010 Lil Wayne.. he was bigger than Tupac, bigger than Drake, bigger than Jay Z.. he was untouchable
Wayne definitely in my top ten. If not top 5
"LIL WAYNE"
*Tha Block Is Hot (1999)
Lights Out (2000)
500 Degreez (2002)
*Da Drought (2003)
*Da Drought 2 (2004)
*The Prefix (2004)
*Tha Carter (2004)
*Tha Carter II (2005)
*The Suffix (2005)
*The Dedication (2005)
*The Dedication 2 (2006)
*Da Drought 3 (2007)
*Tha Carter III (2008)
*Dedication 3 (2008)
*No Ceilings (2009)
Rebirth (2010)
*I Am Not a Human Being (2010)
*Tha Carter IV (2011)
*Sorry 4 The Wait (2011)
I Am Not a Human Being II (2013)
Sorry 4 The Wait 2 (2013)
Free Weezy Album (2015)
No Ceilings 2 (2015)
T-Wayne (w/T-Pain) 2017
Dedication 6 (2017)
Dedication 6: Reloaded (2018)
Tha Carter V (2018)
Funeral (2020)
No Ceilings 3 (2020)
Trust Fund Babies (w/Rich the Kid) 2021
Tha Carter VI (2023)
I Am Not a Human Being III (2023)
Wayne is the GOAT
y'all just haters
....cuz nobody accepts the truth. with innocence...Wayne is the GOAT..
Ye? Jay? Nas?
Rakim? Kool G Rap?
this makes me respect Wayne's work ethic. The guy loves rap and is constantly working on his craft.
Y'all ppl saying Wayne ain't top 10 or top 5...they rappers write...Wayne don't let that sink in..he Impacted hip hop more than any rapper..and today still he!
2:45 his wiki page doesn't even include The Drought is Over series, The Carter Files and a few others. So add about 10 projects to that chart
the Carter series is the best Weezy period, I'll give Wayne credit for putting Mixtapes on notice, those mixtapes from the mid 2000s were dope
MrKing8050 the last decent Carter was 3 since then he's been ass
He's approaching *3 decades* in the game. That doesn't happen without sustained excellence. I won't say he's the goat but undoubtedly top 5 all time.
First of all, this is the best episode so thank u 💙
LIL WAYNE IS THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE.
Al-Hamzi AB Wayne can never be the best rapper alive cause Wayne him self said jayz is the best rapper alive .. you not the best if u say someone else is the best.. and he is contradictive.. look at it for your self utube".Jay z fr Wayne hello Brooklyn live " skip to the end where Wayne is performing a line from Duffle Bag Boy and watch what he does next
Lol what u mean he can never be the best rapper alive 😅
Actually when he said Jay z is the best, that was a long time ago "when jay z was in the game" !
But Jay z never worked hard as Wayne since he started his career lol ✌😂
U gatta believe life changes :)
#WayneIsTheBestRapperAlive
he's done too much for da game to not call him the best rapper alive, its only debatable if hes the best ever
my man Viper is dropping fire mixtapes and flawless albums everyday, he is the true greates rapper of all time
LOL
#WezzyTheGoat
Wezzy the Greatest rapper alive ✋ 👇, his accomplishments prove he is!
Idk about the GOAT but he definitely in the top 3 of all time, no question about it
You should redo this video he got so much dope shit out now
Yo man love The video u doing I have been watching all of them for like the last 7 hours straight..... Do more GOAT videos u really. Make some great cases that I never would of thought about... I'm a Andre 3000 fan so I love the one u did on him... U made great cases for Wayne and Redman lol never would of thought...
I'm not a Wayne at all, but when you stack up his catalog and listen to his bars, the goat status is not that farfetched. He's really fuckin talented.