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To those who think I'm wrong that Skyquake isn't worth the price of Leader Class:
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I think you are wrong, because the engineering and plastic is leagues better than the hollow dinobot and dragon Megatron you are using to compare it to. Scale matters, and engineering matter.
Imagine being a kid nowadays, you go to the toy isle with $20, and you can buy… basically nothing.
Can't even buy a deluxe Transformer or 6" action figure nowadays. It's getting bad.
I hate having to buy a voyager for $40
It used to be $10 Deluxe and $15 voyager figures all day every day for years. Alas tis no more
I remember back during the ROTF days deluxe figures were like $10. It's just so scary how much time has changed.
Also if you didn’t notice after posting this video, the new legacy Skyquake has this little flaps on the inside of the forearms to cover up the holes in the arms, hopefully that makes you like/enjoy the figure a bit more
Yeah I had just forgotten. I think I was still stressing about trying to Transform the old one and I just hurried on the new one. lol
Gotta say, I really like the new Skyquake more than I thought I would. Great blend of G1 and Prime that IMO works really well, good accessories, great engineering, articulation and alt mode, as well as honestly being one of the bigger leaders compared to what we've been getting lately with WFC and Legacy. I never got the original toy so very happy to have Skyquake in the collection, always though he was a really cool character and design.
The accessories I feel are pretty trash, definitely could’ve been better and then it be a perfect figure.
@@alc4528 I like the minigun but yeah I suppose the sword is kinda lame and the "Evo Fusion" gimmick is literally just weapon storage onto the minigun lol
Honestly, if he had a big ol' minigun and a nice big sword, I think I wouldn't have had the complaint about the price that I did.
@@Jcc2224 yeah the mini gun is fucking uggly in tye ne wine and the sword is ugly as fuck
I’ve got the voyager Prime Dreadwing, a friend gave him to me. When I got him his hinge joint that holds the key thruster was cracked, the translucent port also has the same million micro cracks in it.
There's clearly been another round of budget cuts since the latest price increases. Leaders weren't the best value anyway during Siege and Earthrise, but they've taken a noticeable dive in heft, complexity, and size since then. I refuse to buy any Transformer at full MSRP any more.
YES!, I always thought prime skyquake was so cool because he looked like a g1 seeker
You already know there's going to be a Dreadwing repaint of the Legacy figure
Its actuslly crazy the like different views people have if this figure. Either people praise it and say its worth the orice 100% or they say its not worth it at all
This is the first Transformer in a long time I actually returned it to the store I bought it from. It genuinely almost hurt my wrist from transforming because my tendinitis condition sucks. Thankfully Target allowed me to get refunded $60, which blew my mind, because I did not realize prices for Leader classes have gone up. Skyquake/Dreadwing are ok, but they are not worth $55
I really like the new one and your vid convinced me not to bother picking up the old one. I was already scared about how the clear plastic would be holding up 10 years later and my worst fears were confirmed. And if you get the SXS toys upgrade set for Skyquake he comes with a much better looking minigun
Tbh, this thing is more leader than leader earthrise prime.
Well he came with a big ol' Trailer and had exceptional engineering, and also he wasn't 55, he was 50. If you're making me pay more I expect more. And many other size classes have delivered on that with better engineering and quality, EXCEPT Leader class. I've gotten a few other comments about my points here, I think I might wanna make a full video to clarify them.
@@Jcc2224 I wouldn't say it's a "big ol' " trailer, i say it's "a useless, barely painted piece of junk that can't even fit most other figures inside it"
ER Optimus, kingdom rodimus, and Lazer Optimus are bullshit leader class figures. Empty, worthless trailers that just increase the price of the figure people want. The figures themselves are definitely not worth the price with the trailers. But Hasbro knows people will pay for it anyway.
I disagree. I like having trailers with my Optimus Primes, and I feel making a higher-quality Voyager figure and putting a trailer with him is worth the Leader price. And with the trailer, you get enough plastic that makes it equal to other Leaders. Sure the trailers are kinda weird in robot mode, but when was a trailer ever really something that turned into something really cool? lol
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@@debatenothing5676 Kingdom Rodimus was great imo, but yeah the rest isn't good
Price points are no longer about simple price scale -_-
Stuff like Skyquake are for the engineering or for things such as how the toy is put together as not all of the clear plastic is used for like large pieces and painted over its like clipped on stuff, friction and adhesive instead of bigger parts, which makes it more expensive. Just something to consider, and yes I do get the idea with the world falling apart too, I think the new system that was from WFC onward is something that is better, but that is just me, others may see it too but its just a bad time to get it to enter because Pandemic and now falsified inflation through corperate greed.
Yeah it's not, I pointed that out. But Skyquake just doesn't have ENOUGH engineering or accessories or size to be worth it. Smaller Leaders come with more, bigger leaders come with less. But this one only comes with a thin unpainted minigun and a pretty lame sword. He weighs over 3 ounces less than the other two legacy Leaders. He's NOT as good of a value. You get LESS toy.
@@Jcc2224 Someone posted this on TFW in regard to a different figure, but I think it fits here too:
'He's definitely a result of Hasbro's "offer an excuse, then slowly take that excuse away" tactic.
"It's a small voyager BUT he's complex, has girth, lots of paint, and comes with more accessories!"
"It's a small voyager BUT he's complex, has girth, and comes with more accessories!"
"It's a small voyager BUT he's got girth and he's complex!"
"It's a small voyager BUT he's complex!"
"It's a small voyager BUT don't complain because he's the same size as those previous voyagers!"'
@@episodenull I'm late to replying but that hits it right on the head. And people still look to defend Hasbro over it.
I needed this video thanks
It would be better if they can just have the old 2012 sky quake arms legs and body just with new better plastic and a new transformation
If youre interested, you can clean up Legacy Skyquake a bit more, compact that open box in his back, and make the whole thing much more tight and secure. When you fold the end of the cockpit, you have to push it backwards until the landing gear assembly tilts outward and clicks in place. If you dont do that, the entire center of the torso won't line up and fully peg together.
For those living in constant fear of clear plastic joints, just warm them up with a hair dryer before “playing”.
I remember the OG Prime Skyquake being the last figure released in the line and very few stores ordered it. I ended up having to buy it off Ebay for $55 😳
Dude said gerwalk I would love to see Macross get more love
Great review and comparison. I got an rid skyquake misb last year for a decent price compared to what it’s going for. I never attempted to transform him or rid dreadwing after watching reviews and seeing breakage and never will. It’s a shame because they are great looking representations. I did place skyquakes sword in his hand and noticed that same thumb you probably broke developed a stress mark. The legacy skyquake looks like a nice figure but since I have the rid version I won’t be getting it.
The new one is the closest thing to the old big leader class figures we had in a while that we all miss
And also it's a pretty cool figure in my opinion I can wait for the dreadwing repaint
Dragon Megatron was by far my favorite Leader Class we've had in recent years. HE felt worth it.
@@Jcc2224 I never handled him in person but he definitely seems like he is worth it
Almost got this figure.
Passed for a newage prime
The ratchets on the arms of my copy are utterly broken, AND the back is miss assembled.
Aw that's a bummer man, hope you can find a replacement or a refund fam
The ratchets being super squeaky is normal for most copies and if your back missassembly is the back not going in flush there are fixes for that, but if it's an actual missassembly then I'm sorry
i can't wait for apc to make skyquake and dreadwing!
I hear some say they’ll retool needle nose into a g1 style predator jet from 1992 eu only line
On the new one you forgot to close the pannels that cover the oles on the fore arms
Woopsies, guess my anxiety of trying to transform the old one made me forget. lol
Surprisingly I don’t really care for the new cockpit, I feel like they just add in a bit to much detail in certain areas (goes for most figures) where it’s not really necessary. Overall though despite the cockpit and few crappy accessories, this figure is pretty great, but definitely not leader price worth like you said
He's for sure got the G1 Skyquake cockpit rather than the Prime one. I still think it works well, but I see what you mean for sure!
Best £55 I've spent on a Transformer in a while, Skyquake is one of my absolute favourite figures from Legacy alongside Tarn :)
Personally the best $55 I've spent on a TF in a while was either Sludge or Coronation Starscream. One was so much bigger and the other just came with SO much stuff.
@@Jcc2224 Coronation Starscream is the least worth spending on a Leader CLASS figure. Sorry not sorry
It was a definitely a voyager and 1/2 and if they could have added at least higher quality weapons and his bomb accessories. I don't regret my purchase because I was able to get him on sale for $35, but I paid the full price for Dreadwing because I wanted the brothers. It was a good blend of TFP and G1 and maybe a 3rd party will make an upgrade kits for better weapons
Good thing I got Dreadwing at Target for $27 clearance
Remember to punch anyone in the face that gaslights you by saying it’s only 3.6% year to year inflation.
Deluxe figures were $10 not too long ago and Voyagers at $15. Optimal Optimus was sold at $19.99 MSRP and he would still be less than $40 after inflation.
ebeforei!!!! hell yeah!
I agree 100% with everything you said. Super cool figure. Definitely top 10 of the year for me.(I just got mine today lol) Really not happy about the price. Skyquake was the only figure from Transformers Prime I could never find so I was always going to pick this guy up. Now I have to get his bro, and G1 Skyquake whenever that comes out. And Machine Wars Starscream. My wallet is crying. And it really sucks because you know they won’t be any cheaper. What is the cutoff? For me, once Leader Class figures reach $70, that’s it. I just can’t justify more than that no matter how bad I want a figure. I haven’t bought a single Commander for the same reason. And the last Titan I bought was Trypticon. I definitely don’t buy Masterpiece. Shit is just getting crazy
Do you think you’ll look at the GI Joe and Transformers crossover figures??
I have Megs and Bee, I really like them, but I'm unsure if I'll make a video.
So one is 10 bucks overpriced and the other one is so fragile that your terrified to transform it? Choice is clear for me 😅
Some one sais that dread wing is a little bit more solid then sky qake
I have both... and I'd probably agree. For some reason Dreadwing is a bit more solid. But just a BIT. lol
Wile you pay 55 bucks for that (and I understand cuz your a reviewer) I'ma wait for the price drop
I would say comparing this to the SS86 Dinobots isn’t fair because they’re sort of like outliers compared to the other leaders…but I also don’t have any real argument since that’s what modern leaders should be like.
I still hate how the SS Slag/Slug looks, it also feels like I’m the only one that sees just how completely botched the proportions are; the head and legs are the only parts that look fine, but his torso is stupidly massive (it practically looks like a swolo meme), and the hilariously short arms aren’t helping.
Maybe it’s just because Slug’s my favorite Dinobot, and Sludge looking perfect just makes it more annoying.
😊you. Did it. Do it. Rig opting. Cole
You not heard of inflation? Or the rising price of plastics? Also new Skyquake has a much better transformation and overall better aesthetic in both modes.
I have, not relevant here. He's factually LESS toy than other Leader Classes.
its funny how Americans well i assume your American complain over a 55 Doller transformer when here in Australia the the price of voyagers and our leader classes are normally 95 dollars the pain
I acknowledge, I think even in this video (maybe), that prices internationally are even worse. But it doesn't mean our prices are GOOD in comparison. Ours are bad, yours are worse. Also 95 AUD is 63 USD, so your price is still higher and worse, but not by the $40 you may have previously thought.
@@Jcc2224 yeah it but it still seems like it’s different tho for example when I’m ordering third party I see a figure for 100 usd then bam it goes to 200 aud it just kinda sucks cause you see these affordable prices and then ut jumps to unaffordable also I’ve been watching you for quite a while now so kinda cool you responded keep up the good work
Dude my biggest problem with the new skyquake is the chest I despise how flat the chest of it is. It just throws the proportions all off for me, I love the old ones chest how the cockpit fills out the chest and makes it more round but the new one I mean son of a bitch has a literal landing strip on his chest.
That's the G1 homage at work, unfortunately. I like the look, and how this manages to pretty competently blend the two iterations of the character together. If you're just looking for an updated version of Prime, I don't think we're likely to get that, sadly.
He is fine but color scheme wise I do prefer his brother Dreadwing.
It's price class now, not size class
It is, but that doesn't mean this one delivered enough to be worth the price. Is it a good figure? Absolutely, just not a good value compared to other leaders.
This is inflation lol
I think they determine the price point because of the character not the toy you're actually paying because they know fans will pay for it and if they don't they will eventually because of a repaint or retool into another character.
They've done the same thing for Boba Fett and Spider-Man... I wouldn't put it past them. But Skyquake tho? Really? lmao
Literary a inch shorter than a 86 dinobot and you're complaining definitely a down vote for this video .
How about actually comparing the other leader classes from wfc and siege before whining about a bot who is literary just an inch shorter than a robot dinosaurs this is just sad .
It's not just the height, it's the weight, accessories, overall size. It's not worth it compared to other Leaders. This has never been an issue for any TF size class before these recent leader classes. Why did I not discuss the tiny WFC Trilogy leaders? Cuz I didn't buy many of them.
Dumb comment
@@Jcc2224 I couldn't disagree more. Keeping it in Legacy, this to me feels much more like a Leader than say, Laser Optimus. I love that figure but it's just a slightly more complex Voyager with a pretty bad trailer.
This one's properly big and hefty, and apart from the shoulder ratchets on mine having stopped working he feels very very solid. This to me is what a Leader should be, not a Voyager with a crap accessory.
@@Jcc2224 are blind or something the figure literary towers over many of the modern Voyager and leader class figures while he is not dinobots , blackout or fallen size , he definitely one the bigger ones we have gotten in a good while.
Yeah he's taller than Laser Prime and others, but... what else does he have going on? Just being a little taller, that's it? I weighed it too, it's not even the weight of Laser Prime. It is FACT, you don't get as much toy with this Skyquake as other Leaders. I don't know why people are defending it so damn much. lol
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Down here in Australia skyquake is $94
I know... it's insane. Prices for toys in the US are bad, but in Aussie and Canada, as well as other countries, it's borderline appalling. I'm so sorry.
@@Jcc2224 I wanted to get legacy Motormaster but he is $194
@@Jcc2224in Canadian dollars the new volcanicus is over a hundred dollars 💀
The back of your new figure isn't transformed correctly btw.
I know I missed the arm panels... but I'm pretty sure the back is fine? lol
@@Jcc2224 Its meant to go like this, including the cockpit glass sticking out the back. Its just really hard to get the nose cone piece folded all the way.
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i prefer legacy
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Here'show to transform the cockpit correctly
Thank you for that. Someone else linked your video too. On my copy I felt like I was gunna break the damn thing before it even gave. This should have been designed better.
I just don't even like the look of the figure. Even if hw as a t a voyager or deluxe pricepoint I wouldn't want it. The giant insecticon-esque chest cavity with the window looks genuinely awful to me. I just wish the cockpit of the plane was his chest. The chest makes it look less like a Transformer and more like a generic robot toy.
You're opinion is wrong, but as an opinion you are entitled to it.
That logic is so backwards. lol
My opinion is MY opinion. You can disagree with it, but it's not objectively WRONG, just as yours is not.