I discovered SMT back when I was in college in 2004 with “SMT III: Nocturne”, which I loved for how dark and different it was to other JRPG’s. Then, when “SMT: Persona 3” came out, I was hooked and am a huge fan of SMT and all of its spin offs. (Btw, I think “Persona 3 Portable” is the best version of “Persona 3” since it has all of the quality-of -life improvements made in “Persona 4”.)
I wish they would re-release the original games and the first two Shin Megami Tensei games in the west for a console or even just PC already. A sequel to Soul Hackers would be fun too.
It’s always funny to me when people call smt games Pokemon ripoffs. A) they have better stories so even if they came second it would be an evolution more than a ripoff and b) it came first.
@@JetBlack2024 Same, never heard anyone claim that. It is one of those indefensible positions that would be so stupid you would literally just shake your head and not even bother replying to it.
As basic and cheap as Persona 2's guidebook was, I do give it credit for shedding light on the SMT series. I never would've known about the mainline SMT series without it
Kyuuyaku megami tensei was BRUTAL (i wonder why erick didn't showed the fan translated version) the first shin megami tensei was also challenging (i recommend the gba version) 2 and If were great but i've never finished those. Persona 2 (both games) are a MASTERPIECE (for me obviously)
In terms of flights, both Kyuuyaku and SMT I are very easy, especially braindead boss fights in SMT I. Kyuuyaku MT I has tiring dungeons and in SMT I you'll need determination to get through them but I can't say it's BRUTAL. I prefer PS1 version of SMT I with better visuals, smoothness and much better music. Not showing translated version is weird and this video seems pretty basic, for example he said Persona 1 was outdated on release which doesn't make any sense. Of course he didn't finished any of 90s Megaten so that's the reason
I like this type of video because it is very informative up the history of this gaming series, keep up the good work, keep making videos like this very informative
I remember the first game I played was Devil Survivor on DS and I was surprised at how hard it was. It was like playing a combination of a grid based strategy game and a pokemon game that would punish you for complacency and getting too attached to certain monsters. You HAD to rearrange your roster based on skill types to stand a chance to complete missions with specific objectives. You also HAD to replace monster units with later types or you just didn't stand a chance because the experience gap for the earlier monsters to get to the next level would get too large. It has multiple ending routes, and aside from the pain of having to play through the entire game again it is so worth it to get the monsters you earn from the easier routes to help beat the harder routes.
The PS2 era is still the best experimental era for gaming for gamers and developers. I remember seeing SMT Lucifer's Call along with that tempting Dante sticker really got me to play the game after I was done with FF12. It was very bizzare for me at first but I quickly got into the mechanics risk n rewarding combat. For a JRPG I'm glad it didn't shy away from religious and many dark topics tho the writing isn't really good it still nailed the tone regardless. I did go and complete DDS1 and 2 which are also great games. I did play a bit of Persona 3 n 4... eh sorry it was just not a series for me also I was going through alot of life changes etc etc that it was just not appealing. I did go back to persona many many years later and I like the series. I don't love it still hahaha. I will still play some of the other megaten spin offs or main games over persona. Heck I'll still play other JRPGs over SMT itself like Xenoblade, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 6 n 9 and my favourite rpg of all time Dragon Quest 8. I'm really loving SMT5 so far and it feels great seeing this series come back. Also SMT4 is my personal fav in the series hehehe im just saying.
This is a fascinating series and I look forward to exploring it further. Nocturne surprised me with how good it is and I'm impatiently waiting for my copy of SMT V to arrive. I'm liking the series so much that I might even invest in getting a 3DS mainly to play all the games from the series on that system.
I'm loving this series, the dark atmosphere and the Occult is 10/10. I hope Shadow Hearts will also have a comeback someday. SMT and Shadow Hearts are the 2 dark JRPG's that i like
I am a little confused, I don't recall Nocturne getting "critical acclaim" in the US. It reviewed okay and no one trashed it, but I don't remember any media falling all over themselves to give it "critical acclaim". As for the rift in fans.... I think you mean the rift in "fanbois". Real fans couldn't care less and appreciate all the games for what they are not what "series" they are a part of. Lastly the thing that gave them the financial win they needed was when they got the US release rights to Demon's Souls. Demon's Souls was their top selling game of all time until the release of Person 5, which I am sure kinda stung since they were only the US publisher but hey thanks to Atlus Souls games became a thing. Way too many people forget that. Maybe not relevant to Shin Megami Tensei, but you started talking about acquisitions.
As far as I know. Nocturne didn't sell as well as Atlus thought it would. SMT IV was the first commercial success of the series outside Japan, because it reaches over 600 thousands sales. That's pretty good but still very low if you compare it with other 3DS games. Shin Megami Tensei has always been underrated. We all know every single game deserves more sales than they actually got. But from a certain PoV, it keeps more mysterious and selective that way. I mean, it's like a game that just a bunch of chosen ones know. Like we were part of an initiatic school
@@puzzle_boy I agree Nocturne probably did not sell as well as atlus thought it would, and that SMT games in general sell okay but nothing spectacular. As far as the "chosen ones" stuff.... it's a video game. I think again it has way more to do with niche appeal and lack or marketing than it does "only certain people know".
@@DKarkarov Atlus wanted 450 000 sales of Nocturne, game sold 350 000. Bit worse than they expected, but it was still good sales. Nocturne HD Remaster outsold original and sold in one year 500 000 + copies.
@@nr2676 well smt 3 remaster also launched on way more systems, the ip has more exposure now (ironically thanks to persona), and can't underestimate how gaming saw such a boom due to covid.
some leaks hinted that SMT V is not a switch exclusive forever! as the file say the Targeted platforms for the game is actually *Switch, ps4 and PC* probably Nintendo paid the publisher some money to keep it a timed exclusive on the switch for a year or a couple of months.
My first smt game was persona 2 eternal punishment, bought a pirated CD(very common in my country everyone broke 😂) and had my mind blown. I had played many RPGS at the time but none messed with my head like that, I've read in a gane magazine at the rime that it was a two parter and was bitter for years until I was able to play en english patch of Innocent sin. By that time I alreasy had played other smt games. Smt 1, Raidou vs army of darkness and persona 3, but no game messed me up so much as P2 duology. It is a fine blend of mainline smt and persona and have the best story and characters so far. Currentlt beating devil survivor 1 for the first time and got hooked as well 😊
Anyone know if the original Digital Devil Story novels have an english translation somewhere? I'd love to read the novels that started the game series.
I've beaten the snes translations including( if...) they are only about 30 hours each, (mainly because of RPGs being grind heavy to extend the game artificially luckily final fantasy was not like this thank God) short games, Now I'm onto the persona series and the game boy games.
I'm slowly chipping away at the GBA fan translation ROM of SMT 1. I've gone too far to turn back now. I want to be able to just say I've beaten the first Shin Megami Tensei.
Preorder for SMTV arrived today along with free gifts. SMT3 Nocturne/ Lucifer's call on PS2 is first in series I've played. SMT4 physical version is hard to obtain so I got digital copy instead. I came across Digital devil story on emulators but hard to understand as couldn't read Japanese. Do a livestream gameplay of SMTV.
@@james441 Yeah, Persona back when it had SMT in the name. By the time of Persona 4 Golden, they had forsaken the SMT name. It may be a spinoff still, but for all intents and purpose it's no longer smt, and instead, it's own thing now.
@@luccar2156 look if it’s a huge factor in present day fans playing SMT for the first time in the last year or so it’s worth mentioning because it’s a association that’s worth mentioning. Idk why you’d even deny that point.
My first smt game was persona 2 eternal punishment, bought a pirated CD(very common in my country everyone broke 😂) and had my mind blown. I had played many RPGS at the time but none messed with my head like that, I've read in a gane magazine at the rime that it was a two parter and was bitter for years until I was able to play en english patch of Innocent sin. By that time I alreasy had played other smt games. Smt 1, Raidou vs army of darkness and persona 3, but no game messed me up so much as P2 duology. It is a fine blend of mainline smt and persona and have the best story and characters so far. Currentlt beating devil survivor 1 for the first time and got hooked as well 😊
I discovered SMT back when I was in college in 2004 with “SMT III: Nocturne”, which I loved for how dark and different it was to other JRPG’s. Then, when “SMT: Persona 3” came out, I was hooked and am a huge fan of SMT and all of its spin offs. (Btw, I think “Persona 3 Portable” is the best version of “Persona 3” since it has all of the quality-of -life improvements made in “Persona 4”.)
How you feeling about P3R?
I wish they would re-release the original games and the first two Shin Megami Tensei games in the west for a console or even just PC already. A sequel to Soul Hackers would be fun too.
"A sequel to Soul Hackers would be fun"
Have I got news for you
hey Soul Hackers 2 now is waiting to be released
It’s always funny to me when people call smt games Pokemon ripoffs. A) they have better stories so even if they came second it would be an evolution more than a ripoff and b) it came first.
That’s how it is with everything. But I’ve never heard this ever. Even when the first set of games came out.
@@JetBlack2024 Same, never heard anyone claim that. It is one of those indefensible positions that would be so stupid you would literally just shake your head and not even bother replying to it.
Only thing comparable about them is the monster collecting aspect and the turn based jrpg combat. Everything else is different.
@@JetBlack2024 I’ve seen it in comments on Facebook and TH-cam comments.
They are just different rpgs in general. People shouldn't compare the 2. Now someone comparing Digimon to pokemon actually makes sense.
As basic and cheap as Persona 2's guidebook was, I do give it credit for shedding light on the SMT series. I never would've known about the mainline SMT series without it
Kyuuyaku megami tensei was BRUTAL (i wonder why erick didn't showed the fan translated version) the first shin megami tensei was also challenging (i recommend the gba version) 2 and If were great but i've never finished those. Persona 2 (both games) are a MASTERPIECE (for me obviously)
In terms of flights, both Kyuuyaku and SMT I are very easy, especially braindead boss fights in SMT I. Kyuuyaku MT I has tiring dungeons and in SMT I you'll need determination to get through them but I can't say it's BRUTAL. I prefer PS1 version of SMT I with better visuals, smoothness and much better music. Not showing translated version is weird and this video seems pretty basic, for example he said Persona 1 was outdated on release which doesn't make any sense. Of course he didn't finished any of 90s Megaten so that's the reason
I like this type of video because it is very informative up the history of this gaming series, keep up the good work, keep making videos like this very informative
I remember the first game I played was Devil Survivor on DS and I was surprised at how hard it was. It was like playing a combination of a grid based strategy game and a pokemon game that would punish you for complacency and getting too attached to certain monsters. You HAD to rearrange your roster based on skill types to stand a chance to complete missions with specific objectives. You also HAD to replace monster units with later types or you just didn't stand a chance because the experience gap for the earlier monsters to get to the next level would get too large. It has multiple ending routes, and aside from the pain of having to play through the entire game again it is so worth it to get the monsters you earn from the easier routes to help beat the harder routes.
As a SMT fan, I didn't know half the stuff in here. Great video man!
Ah one of my favorite content creators with something new.
Keep it up brother!
The PS2 era is still the best experimental era for gaming for gamers and developers. I remember seeing SMT Lucifer's Call along with that tempting Dante sticker really got me to play the game after I was done with FF12. It was very bizzare for me at first but I quickly got into the mechanics risk n rewarding combat. For a JRPG I'm glad it didn't shy away from religious and many dark topics tho the writing isn't really good it still nailed the tone regardless. I did go and complete DDS1 and 2 which are also great games. I did play a bit of Persona 3 n 4... eh sorry it was just not a series for me also I was going through alot of life changes etc etc that it was just not appealing.
I did go back to persona many many years later and I like the series. I don't love it still hahaha. I will still play some of the other megaten spin offs or main games over persona. Heck I'll still play other JRPGs over SMT itself like Xenoblade, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 6 n 9 and my favourite rpg of all time Dragon Quest 8.
I'm really loving SMT5 so far and it feels great seeing this series come back. Also SMT4 is my personal fav in the series hehehe im just saying.
This is a fascinating series and I look forward to exploring it further. Nocturne surprised me with how good it is and I'm impatiently waiting for my copy of SMT V to arrive. I'm liking the series so much that I might even invest in getting a 3DS mainly to play all the games from the series on that system.
I'm loving this series, the dark atmosphere and the Occult is 10/10.
I hope Shadow Hearts will also have a comeback someday. SMT and Shadow Hearts are the 2 dark JRPG's that i like
I'm sure TH-camrs keeping the hype alive helped this series survive.
I am a little confused, I don't recall Nocturne getting "critical acclaim" in the US. It reviewed okay and no one trashed it, but I don't remember any media falling all over themselves to give it "critical acclaim". As for the rift in fans.... I think you mean the rift in "fanbois". Real fans couldn't care less and appreciate all the games for what they are not what "series" they are a part of.
Lastly the thing that gave them the financial win they needed was when they got the US release rights to Demon's Souls. Demon's Souls was their top selling game of all time until the release of Person 5, which I am sure kinda stung since they were only the US publisher but hey thanks to Atlus Souls games became a thing. Way too many people forget that. Maybe not relevant to Shin Megami Tensei, but you started talking about acquisitions.
As far as I know. Nocturne didn't sell as well as Atlus thought it would. SMT IV was the first commercial success of the series outside Japan, because it reaches over 600 thousands sales. That's pretty good but still very low if you compare it with other 3DS games. Shin Megami Tensei has always been underrated. We all know every single game deserves more sales than they actually got. But from a certain PoV, it keeps more mysterious and selective that way. I mean, it's like a game that just a bunch of chosen ones know. Like we were part of an initiatic school
@@puzzle_boy I agree Nocturne probably did not sell as well as atlus thought it would, and that SMT games in general sell okay but nothing spectacular. As far as the "chosen ones" stuff.... it's a video game. I think again it has way more to do with niche appeal and lack or marketing than it does "only certain people know".
@@DKarkarov Atlus wanted 450 000 sales of Nocturne, game sold 350 000. Bit worse than they expected, but it was still good sales. Nocturne HD Remaster outsold original and sold in one year 500 000 + copies.
@@nr2676 well smt 3 remaster also launched on way more systems, the ip has more exposure now (ironically thanks to persona), and can't underestimate how gaming saw such a boom due to covid.
It definitely gained a strong cult audience though, wasn't a big seller but it kept the series going
I love these retrospective videos
What happened to the apology video?
Beautiful and interesting. Please, make more history contents ;)
some leaks hinted that SMT V is not a switch exclusive forever!
as the file say the Targeted platforms for the game is actually *Switch, ps4 and PC*
probably Nintendo paid the publisher some money to keep it a timed exclusive on the switch for a year or a couple of months.
That was seriously interesting, great content!
Very interesting history of this franchise! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I hope they bring SMT IV and V to PS5 or PC.
Great video thanks dude
My first smt game was persona 2 eternal punishment, bought a pirated CD(very common in my country everyone broke 😂) and had my mind blown.
I had played many RPGS at the time but none messed with my head like that, I've read in a gane magazine at the rime that it was a two parter and was bitter for years until I was able to play en english patch of Innocent sin.
By that time I alreasy had played other smt games.
Smt 1, Raidou vs army of darkness and persona 3, but no game messed me up so much as P2 duology.
It is a fine blend of mainline smt and persona and have the best story and characters so far.
Currentlt beating devil survivor 1 for the first time and got hooked as well 😊
Anyone know if the original Digital Devil Story novels have an english translation somewhere? I'd love to read the novels that started the game series.
I read one of them about... 10 years ago? It was fan translated but I don't remember where I found
No official translation, unfortunately.
SMT IV has the best battle theme
SMT IV has the best music in general. Let's see if V is on the same level at least
Nice Video!
5:08 Megami Ibunroku Persona*
I bought the 3ds only for smt IV. Now i dont know if spend my money in a Swith for SMT V
I like the Micon city dungeon theme
Me too. Megami Tensei 1 has such a rocking underestimated Famicom soundtrack. That said, MT2's OST is even better!
@@toryficarola I haven't gotten to that game yet but I am sure I'll love it.
I wonder if it's possible to read those original novels in English.
I've beaten the snes translations including( if...) they are only about 30 hours each, (mainly because of RPGs being grind heavy to extend the game artificially luckily final fantasy was not like this thank God) short games, Now I'm onto the persona series and the game boy games.
This is a better recap of the series than other rpg TH-camrs have done.
My fav game franchise!!
Otakus save the world! Love your historical series. Would love to see MORE!! Thanks!
Would be cool to see you do something similar based on all the spin offs etc
I'm slowly chipping away at the GBA fan translation ROM of SMT 1. I've gone too far to turn back now. I want to be able to just say I've beaten the first Shin Megami Tensei.
Oh nice!
Preorder for SMTV arrived today along with free gifts. SMT3 Nocturne/ Lucifer's call on PS2 is first in series I've played. SMT4 physical version is hard to obtain so I got digital copy instead. I came across Digital devil story on emulators but hard to understand as couldn't read Japanese. Do a livestream gameplay of SMTV.
Hope Amazon drops my copy off early
So it was thanks to america that we now got Persona pedos fan clubs.
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Your title card is fraud because the video is 12mins short. Clickbait.
I think you should’ve mentioned persona 5 because it basically made the whole series so popular lately
Persona 5 isn't SMT, so naturally it wouldn't be part of the history.
@@luccar2156 he mentioned persona in the video though ........it’s an SMT spin off and 100% caused most of its fan base lately.
@@james441 Yeah, Persona back when it had SMT in the name. By the time of Persona 4 Golden, they had forsaken the SMT name. It may be a spinoff still, but for all intents and purpose it's no longer smt, and instead, it's own thing now.
@@luccar2156 look if it’s a huge factor in present day fans playing SMT for the first time in the last year or so it’s worth mentioning because it’s a association that’s worth mentioning. Idk why you’d even deny that point.
I feel like removing the Shin Megami Tensei name from Persona titles was definitely a bad move in the long run.
Oh damn, my like was 666th😅
My first smt game was persona 2 eternal punishment, bought a pirated CD(very common in my country everyone broke 😂) and had my mind blown.
I had played many RPGS at the time but none messed with my head like that, I've read in a gane magazine at the rime that it was a two parter and was bitter for years until I was able to play en english patch of Innocent sin.
By that time I alreasy had played other smt games.
Smt 1, Raidou vs army of darkness and persona 3, but no game messed me up so much as P2 duology.
It is a fine blend of mainline smt and persona and have the best story and characters so far.
Currentlt beating devil survivor 1 for the first time and got hooked as well 😊