A lot of countries are still restrained on an artistic and societal level because religion is still important there. In times, they will see the (real) light and everybody will be able to put this BS behind them...as if !
Honestly, I think at the time they just thought fun was satanic in America, because they went after a lot of stuff, usually with absolutely no grounds or proof and even TONS of proof against them
Jack Frost: hey Flynn, gimme a life stone and I'll be your best friend! *Gives Jack Frost a life stone* Jack Frost: I'm your Demon now! *Hee ho* Jack Frost: Here, for you! *Flynn gets a life stone*
Interesting tidbit about Dante appearing in SMT3, it was part of a trade between Atlus and Capcom. Atlus got to put Dante in their game, and the Devil Trigger designs for the up-coming Devil May Cry 3 was done by the character designer for SMT games. This is why the DTs in DMC3 are so radically different from the rest of the series.
Honestly, I could care less about SMT or Persona, I just want to know the release date of Jack Brothers for the the Nintendo switch. I mean, any true Atlus fan will tell you that it's their magnum opus.
How many Megaten Fans does it take to change a light bulb? Two: one mainline fan to screw it, one persona fan to complain about how its not like persona
"The original plan was to make the Vortex like a battlefield for you to run around in. You could see into the distant horizon, and if you look up into the sky you could make out terrain features and houses way in the distance. We thought this would certainly be a dynamic spectacle, but it made the game respond poorly so we put that aside. *I hope we'll be able to do it someday.* All this talk about Shin Megami Tensei V being a pseudo sequel to Nocturne has put that quote in a whole new perspective.
@@secretbunnyninja yeah honestly the game run fines but the graphics leave more to be desired, I wished it was also released on PC but it turned out to be a switch exclusive
@@secretbunnyninja I wouldn't place my money on the ports in the next few years. But I'm glad you're happy with the game on the switch, if you're playing on there
Literally my only complaint is random battles. I never liked them. At least once you get a demon with the right abilities you can control how often you fight enemies, but when you first start out it's really annoying. Aside from that, it's a FANTASTIC game. Great story, lots of demons. Although I do find it annoying that in NG+, the optional bonus outfit is used for about five minutes before you go back to being half-naked. Seriously, why did they bother? Got my hopes up for nothing.
The Fantastic Paul Yes, which is a pretty good reason to hate the main series. Whatever it is, it's close enough to the main series in theme and mechanics.
That moment you leave Mikado for the first time and get to Neo Tokyo and realize how amazing and hype the game is. Can't express how many hours lost on SMT and Persona games
I remember back when this video came out, I thought "Shin Megami Tensei" was just the Japanese name for the series, while "Persona" was the English name. And now here I am 4 years later being a big Persona fan and slowly getting into mainline SMT, along with thinking about how dumb I used to be.
@@kemalerdemsahin410 I dont know. I know nothing about SMT. Even though persona is a spinoff, I love persona. And I dont think I'll ever play smt because of the fanbases and the bullshit they give to each other
@@Rictoris even though i love both smt and persona, i've seen way way more persona fanboys shit talking smt. hell dude back when smt 5 got shown off persona fans took over the comments saying stuff like "we don't need this we need persona 5 on switch" and "smt is shit, persona 5 for switch" and other stuff.
I was so happy to see this video so people can talk about how great SMT is but I looked that the comments and it just made me sad, all I see is hate. Well theirs always next time, I guess.
i recently got into SMT and its one of the best decisions iv ever made. such an underrated franchise lost in the shadow of its spin offs. THEN FINALLY a video shows up focusing on its greatness and bam! nothing but bullshit and hate. Fuck man, what a bummer. hope DYKG makes a part 2 sometime to make up for it.
Yeah agreed, I only recently got into the series by playing Shin Megami Tensei IV and Tokyo Mirage Sessions, but I love both games, they're very unique! The sad thing is that Persona's taken over and SMT's been left behind.
Few corrections. The Famicom Megami Tensei is not an adaptation of the first Digital Devil Story novel, but rather a sequel to the first two novels (Megami Tensei/Goddess Reincarnation and Mazu no Senshi/Warrior of the Demon City). In the first novel, the primary antagonist is Loki, while in the second, it's Set. Both appear as resurrections in the Famicom game, with Lucifer acting as the main antagonist in it. Incidentally, Lucifer is the main antagonist in the third DDS novel, Tensei no Shuuen/Demise of the Reincarnation (think the second novel as where the story splits between the games and the novel). I think the Telenet version is also supposed to be a sequel. Second correction is more of a choice of translation. Metempsychosis is kind of an obscure translation, and the generally-accepted translation is Reincarnation. Third correction is Izanami over Izunami, but that was probably a typo. Still, kinda impressed that someone bothered doing some research into SMT over Persona.
I'm pretty sure "metempsychosis" and "reincarnation" are mostly synonyms. If you break them down into their pieces, "metempsychosis" is something like "a change in the habitat of a soul" while "reincarnation" means "to become/inhabit flesh again".
TehFailur I can imagine he meant the pronounciation to be an allusion to the word "new" because the series startet anew with the rebranding. But he didn't say that.
I don't think he actually lives in Japan, just lived there for a brief period in college. He isn't a self-proclaimed expert, he's just very interested in Japanese culture and has read a lot about it. There's nothing wrong with trying to share knowledge.
Really love how the MegaTen series draws inspiration from so many cultural norms... From all known religious sources to even be influenced by modern pop culture references and politics... MegaTen franchise is like a melting pot of worldly ideals..
+Creta Mihai Ok I can almost kinda understand when people ask a stupid question before reading the description but before reading the title? Seriously?
+Dev Griffin Another amazing one was him having to put up with someone interviewing him about Devil May Cry that was incredibly stupid. I think one question was "Why is Dante's hair white?", which he replied with "Because he's Dante.".
the hospital is a symbol for passing onto the next world. It's a gateway to the afterlife. That's why the conception in Nocturne takes place in a hospital. You come into it a normal high schooler, with fairly normal life, and when you come out you trespass into a spirit world.
It'd be cool if SMT V used the global apocalypse setting and the open world concept EDIT: SMT V GOT A TRAILER LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO AND SMT NOCTURNE REMASTER
4:12 i know this is a super old video, BUT, correction: Shin Megami Tensei NINE is mainline, just like Strange Journey and If..., it's just not numbered. Furthermore, while this is more of a clarification-- it is pretty dissimilar to games like Final Fantasy XII or "singleplayer MMOS". It uses an auto-attack battle system, yes, but it has random encounters, and there is no in-battle movement involved. You basically just watch it play out and step in for healing and the like.
The first Did You Know Gaming where I did know literally everything that was discussed, including several more things that weren't, but felt like they should have been. Also, this was less of a Shin Megami Tensei DYKG, and felt more like Megami Tensei as a whole with how many of the spin-offs were discussed.
Really short video for such a long, convoluted, and complex series. For those of you asking "where should I start?" Here are some of the branches of the MT series SMT SMT Strange journey DS SMT IV 3ds SMT IV Apocalypse 3ds SMT Nocturne PS2 Classic Digital Devil Saga DDS 1 PS2 Classic DDS 2 PS2 Classic Devil Summoner Soul Hackers 3ds Raidou Souless PS2 classic Abaddon PS2 classic Persona 1 PSP 2 IS PSP 2 EP psone classic 3 Fes PS2 Classic 3 Portable PSP 4 PS2 Classic 4 Golden PSVita Devil survivor 1 Ds or remake 3ds 2 Ds or remake 3ds #You can play these games on an emulator if you choose. Q: Why do people hate the persona series? A: Technically they don't, they hate the persona series after 2. Q: Why? A: Many reasons, the social simulation aspect of it makes it seem like waifu simulator, the stories arent as complex, they arent as hard, and the characters seem like cut outs. Now this wasnt really much a problem with Persona 3 since it had more elements from SMT (think of it like Resident evil 4) but Problem comes in with Persona 4 (think of it like resident evil 5...6). Q: Why do people dislike Persona 4? A: Again many reasons. Flat characters, waifu simulator, the social link (an aspect of the social simulation part of the game) wasnt as engaging as Persona 3, easier, and the biggest reasons are -MILKING THE COW -ATTRACTS WEEBS -CAUSES ATLUS TO SWIFT FOCUS Q: Is persona 4 a bad game? A: No its actually quite fun. The gameplay is good and slightly challenging for your everyday gamer. The problem lies with the whole "it feels like an anime turned game" meaning flat characters, boring settings, unrealistic dialogue. #Anime as a whole isnt a bad thing, its only bad when it seems more like you are creating a story that can only exist as an anime rather than a story that become an anime. Good stories can be told but if the stories requires tropes and cliches presented in anime it becomes boring. Sorry for the long text. hoped I helped
Angel Ortega Thanks for being the only reasonable person here. I can totally understand that SMT fans don't want he SMT name on Persona considering they have little in common. They are totally different series. But the amount of elitism here is stupid. 4-channers =_= Just wanted to know a good starting point. Like where most people started. Though your categorized list helps.
I wouldn't say Persona 3 FES is a good starting point, considering the dungeon crawling aspect of the game is monotonous as all heck to slog through. Persona 5, being similar to the mainline SMT games, is a pretty good place to start. Then you can go to SMT 3 and so on.
Polkadi After playing P5 it will be very hard to return to the older games because they will seem outdated game play vise. P5 is best experienced if you already familiar with the series so you will get all those little references to the older games. And avoid PS2 P4 at all cost, play Golden.
In exchange for featuring Dante in their game, Kaneko designed Dante and Vergil's devil triggers in DMC3 which are the most distinct DTs in the series imo If there's one thing I would love Atlus to take from Pokemon, it would be PvP. Imagine the press turn system in a PvP setting
A lot of tasteless people bought FF XV, with its shitty story and shitty gampelay (Iguess that's why they hired some Capcom's people recently), so it sold way more than Persona 5. And considering the number of people playing with the English dub, I guess we can say that good taste lost again.
Another fun fact Shin Megami Tensei : Nocturne or Lucifer's Call is the only one to have ever been tanslate in other language than Japanese and English.
Ay thank you guys for bringing Gaijin to make megaten's curiosities, he's a nice youtuber that deserves more than the stupid backslash he receives normally.
There's a new DYKG video about a very beloved series and the comments are about how: - How they hate Gaijin. - How much of a weeb he is. - How they hate the Game Theorists channel. - and the fact that he put a pair of tits on a Goomba. Jesus. And I thought Chris-Chan is pathetic. :/
We really need a "Guide to Megami Tensei" as narrated by GG. I had no idea it was *this* convoluted. Very good episode though! A breathe of fresh air after the lackluster ones recently.
it is RIDICULOUSLY convoluted, bro. I have never played any of the games but within the last year I started getting interested and I went to try and research it and FFS so many spin off titles and reboots and series within series! It was like being thrown into the deep end of a pool ! I STILL have no idea where to begin and can barely even define or describe the series very well
Given Shin Megami Tensei's wide focus on all mythologies, I really, really like the idea of a story starting in Japan and spanning the globe coming to a final conclusion in Israel. It just works so well with the set up they have and that's something they wanted to do in the first game! Have they ever revisited this idea in anyway or is the series pretty much always some weird version of Japan?
In 5 it's explained that the entire world is undergoing similar processes to determine their national identity and the cultural zeitgeist in the world to come after, you just happen to live in Japan
@@Vanity0666 Feels less like it's even "You just happen to live in Japan" and more specifically "You just happen to live in Tokyo". There are other cities in Japan that they could rip locations from for a change (and maybe they have, idk, I've played like four games in the series and there's like 200 or something).
don't forget that Pokemon ripped off SMT's monster catching and saying that SMT ripoff there's but SMT came from the 80's before Pokemon those hypocrites.
In return of Dante's inclusion in the NA Nocturne, Kazuma Kaneko provided the designs for Dante and Vergil's Devil Trigger forms in Dante's Awakening. :O Nice partnership there, mate! :)
I don't know much about JRPG's in general but goddamn this comments section is so salty. It's people from one fandom assailing another just to satisfy their faux-superiority complex. Sometimes I hate sharing the same hobby with people
I really think a female goomba that was just a normal goomba but in girl's clothes would have been a lot more tasteful and less disturbing, but girls seem to like for everyone to be aware of their tits all the time.
You failed to mention that the reason Dante was in SMT3 was because the character designer for the SMT series was the one who created Dante and Vergil's Devil Trigger modes in Devil May Cry 3
I am actually shocked that I was able to learn stuff I didn't already know from this video considering how big an SMT fan I am. I really appreciate the chance for the main line games to get some attention when Persona usually takes it all. I liked as well hearing some remixes of classic SMT music in the background. In particular I noticed the boss battle theme from SMT I.
It's almost like how carbuncle summarise it.In smt,we basically just decide how the world gonna continue after the world ending tragedy happened and sometimes in the series,it's pretty much "every route isn't fully right" type of story
Got your facts wrong: The first 2 MegaTen titles were published by Namco before Atlus got hold of the series. Because Atlus's Megami Tensei did not follow the novel's story line, it was appropriately retitled Shin Megami Tensei. Also, "metempsychosis?" "Reincarnation" would have been a more fitting name. Hell, it was even used as the remix title for the Persona 3 and 4 soundtracks.
I loved the Demi-Kid games, a great deal funner then Pokemon was and a great story, not to mention two completely different stories for each one. Played both and had a wicked team.
"You want me to join your party? Forget it. I won't lower myself to the level of Gaijin Goomba. Get ready to die, son of man!" Also, I literally learned nothing I couldn't already learn from the Megami Tensei wiki today.
I was never big into the persona series, but loved digital devil saga, both of them but really they are one story. Learn us some facts about that game some time.
Gotta love how in the west there was the satanic pokemon scare while Japan was happily playing a real satanic pokemon game.
1990's Americans: BOYCOTT NINTENDO, POKEMON IS SATANIC
1990's Japan: Oh cool frost demon
A lot of countries are still restrained on an artistic and societal level because religion is still important there. In times, they will see the (real) light and everybody will be able to put this BS behind them...as if !
Japan sure likes the whole "let's fight God!" trope. I wonder if catholicism being a minority has a part in that.
Honestly, I think at the time they just thought fun was satanic in America, because they went after a lot of stuff, usually with absolutely no grounds or proof and even TONS of proof against them
And yet Japanese people are generally more well adjusted
Jack Frost: hey Flynn, gimme a life stone and I'll be your best friend!
*Gives Jack Frost a life stone*
Jack Frost: I'm your Demon now! *Hee ho*
Jack Frost: Here, for you!
*Flynn gets a life stone*
I gotta get home before rush hour. Ho!
I'm supposed to kill the protagonist Ho
This is how SMT works
*STONKS*
*PROFIT 100*
Jack frost likes following the messiah and the Demi-Fiend and I bet the Marine and godslayer
*_Featuring DANTE from the DEVIL MAY CRY series!_*
And knuckles
THERE IT IS!!!
And the Divine Comedy
With Garterbelt.
+Amstrado Make That Gandalf XD
Did you know there's more SMT games besides Persona 3, 4, and 5?
Did you know Persona is worse than the main series?
Did you also know it's not even the best spinoff, that being DeSu and DDS?
What, like Dancing All Night, Arena, and Q?
This joke is never ending... is it?
did you know that smt fans being douche bags to persona fans is probably why so many persona fans haven't played main series smt yet
It's a shame DeSu doesn't get more attention.
"Hmm, give me a *Life Stone* and I might consider joining you."
[Goes away without joining]
Takes life bead, asks for a part of your life, then asks for revival bead, then leaves
It's good to know I don't suffer from this :,)
"Now answer this question...."
"OK man! I'm completely satisfied! Take this as a token of appreciation!"
>obtained bead
Interesting tidbit about Dante appearing in SMT3, it was part of a trade between Atlus and Capcom. Atlus got to put Dante in their game, and the Devil Trigger designs for the up-coming Devil May Cry 3 was done by the character designer for SMT games. This is why the DTs in DMC3 are so radically different from the rest of the series.
Wow if only I learned that on a youtube serious about telling me things I might not have known instead of going for "Featuring Dante" meme.
Crazy Diamond ds
Honestly, I could care less about SMT or Persona, I just want to know the release date of Jack Brothers for the the Nintendo switch. I mean, any true Atlus fan will tell you that it's their magnum opus.
fucking weeb hipster. you only like jack bros., the most popular spinoff of SMT because... sorry, the comments got to me.
Snowboard Kids would like a word with you.
One day I will be able to buy jack bros and become a chad
Lmao fucking casual. Everybody knows that the only true Megaten game is 101 Explosive Megamix for the Nintendo Wii
@@AlgonSoft yup, the greatest
How many Megaten fans does it take to change a light bulb?
Two: one Persona fan to screw it, and one mainline fan to complain it's not dark enough.
How many Megaten Fans does it take to change a light bulb?
Two: one mainline fan to screw it, one persona fan to complain about how its not like persona
so it's the same then Neostar?
lmao both are true
imthex *badum tiss*
@@Neostar617 ???
"The original plan was to make the Vortex like a battlefield for you to run around in. You could see into the distant horizon, and if you look up into the sky you could make out terrain features and houses way in the distance. We thought this would certainly be a dynamic spectacle, but it made the game respond poorly so we put that aside.
*I hope we'll be able to do it someday.*
All this talk about Shin Megami Tensei V being a pseudo sequel to Nocturne has put that quote in a whole new perspective.
Too bad the load times on the switch would be prohibitive. Maybe switch pro?
@@secretbunnyninja I'm not so sure about the pro now 😂. But I'm pretty sure the load times will be fine
@@secretbunnyninja yeah honestly the game run fines but the graphics leave more to be desired, I wished it was also released on PC but it turned out to be a switch exclusive
@@rohanrodrigues7115 it actually ended up better than I thought. There are rumors of an impending ps4/5 pc release.
@@secretbunnyninja I wouldn't place my money on the ports in the next few years. But I'm glad you're happy with the game on the switch, if you're playing on there
"SMT had a number of spinoffs during the PS1 era"
>Shows SMT 1, SMT 2, SMT If...
I mean they were ports but mainline all the way
hi smt guy
Oh hey, it's Simply Chad
smt is a spinoff of mt so technically he's right
@@AmanitaJT SMT is MT not a spin-off
Aww, we never got to my favorite, Digital Devil Saga. : (
**Jack Frost joined your party without your consent**
@@talonzilla or the gambling addicted demons in strange journey
@@talonzilla ONI FORCED HIS WAY INTO THE PARTY
*ONI FORCED IT'S WAY INTO THE PARTY*
ONI FORCED IT'S WAY INTO THE PARTY
"The game was ultimately confined to Tokyo's Kichijoji neighborhood"
No it wasn't
really incomplete
this needs a Part 2
They'd need at least 10 parts to go over everything in the franchise.
+Kokoro Belmont agreed
They should get someone else other than Gaijin Goombah first.
6 min was a crime :' ( i feel there will be no part two...
and some mistakes. as the servers for smt imagine are offline in japan for quite some time
I fucking love Nocturne so much.
You and me both. It truly is the best of the series.
+andree1991 I Personally wouldn't say best, but damn Nocturne is one of the greatest RPGs ever
I owned the game for over a year now and have yet to play it. I want to but been playing other games at the moment :(
Dude I fuckin love nocturne. I just beat it for the first time in about July.
Literally my only complaint is random battles. I never liked them. At least once you get a demon with the right abilities you can control how often you fight enemies, but when you first start out it's really annoying.
Aside from that, it's a FANTASTIC game. Great story, lots of demons.
Although I do find it annoying that in NG+, the optional bonus outfit is used for about five minutes before you go back to being half-naked.
Seriously, why did they bother? Got my hopes up for nothing.
I remember when my grandmother used to say that Pokemon was the devil. She loved Devil Children though.
"I hope we'll be able to do it someday."
FUCKING NOCTURNE REMAKE WHEN
Never because Atlus hates mainline SMT.
I will melt with joy if that ever happend
Atlus doesn't hate mainline SMT. They just know that those games won't make any fucking money.
Also, lul Nocturne is a "mainline SMT game" lul
The Fantastic Paul Yes, which is a pretty good reason to hate the main series. Whatever it is, it's close enough to the main series in theme and mechanics.
+The Fantastic Paul they gotta make those wifu's for their neck-beard fans. :(
how come every megaten game is as good as it is anyway? like there's nothing below a 7/10
they're solid, difficult rpgs with good stories
Because Atlus has a reputation with fans they have to uphold in order to sell their niche rpgs
Atlus can never do wrong
Maijin Tensei isn't very good. Especially the 3rd one.
They're all great RPGs with great story and gameplay strategy, the only thing atlas can get wrong are a couple spin offs
Have never seen that Jack Frost dude before, but I already want him in Smash as an Atlus rep!
Lucifer would be better
...You have never played a MegaTen game have you? Blue Butt Lucy would be better or YHVH
YHWH for smash.
SonicKick I said that
Don't you mean Louis Cyphre or even Louisa Ferre?
Shin Megami Tensei imagine where Cu Chulainn carry you like aprincess when you choose him as your mount lol.
Thank God this video features Dante from the Devil May Cry series.
>Not talking about Digital Devil Saga
>Keeping Raidou to a brief mention
>Not talking about Strange Journey
5/10, it's incomplete. Try again.
Also forgot the game that led to the Persona series in general: SMT...IF.
He even didnt mention something about raidou too raidou has pierce dmage while dante dosent makes him more useful
@@MohammadAhmad-sf6by and that boogie woogie has a bug that makes it have more crit chance that dante's counterpart
@@Fizz-Q I fucking love that name, it's so non threatening yet the skill itself is extremely threatening lmao
That moment you leave Mikado for the first time and get to Neo Tokyo and realize how amazing and hype the game is. Can't express how many hours lost on SMT and Persona games
I remember back when this video came out, I thought "Shin Megami Tensei" was just the Japanese name for the series, while "Persona" was the English name.
And now here I am 4 years later being a big Persona fan and slowly getting into mainline SMT, along with thinking about how dumb I used to be.
Dumbass
Shin Megami Tensei needs more love!
SMT needs to get rid off handheld gaming consoles and needs localisation for western countries. Actually, SMT can be popular as Persona in the west.
@@kemalerdemsahin410 I dont know. I know nothing about SMT. Even though persona is a spinoff, I love persona. And I dont think I'll ever play smt because of the fanbases and the bullshit they give to each other
@@Rictoris why should the fan base stop you from experiencing the games
Go play them, you'll love it
Especially the other spinoffs
@@snuffaluffagus1000 I know I shouldn't blame the fan bases, but their so toxic and it ruins the game for me
@@Rictoris even though i love both smt and persona, i've seen way way more persona fanboys shit talking smt. hell dude back when smt 5 got shown off persona fans took over the comments saying stuff like "we don't need this we need persona 5 on switch" and "smt is shit, persona 5 for switch" and other stuff.
I think I'm gonna stick to True Goddess Reincarnation, there's no way I'm gonna remember the word metempsycosis.
I learned the word metempsychosis from Ikaruga
I was so happy to see this video so people can talk about how great SMT is but I looked that the comments and it just made me sad, all I see is hate. Well theirs always next time, I guess.
I feel the same bro
Thanks
i recently got into SMT and its one of the best decisions iv ever made. such an underrated franchise lost in the shadow of its spin offs. THEN FINALLY a video shows up focusing on its greatness and bam! nothing but bullshit and hate.
Fuck man, what a bummer. hope DYKG makes a part 2 sometime to make up for it.
Shin Megami Tensei fans unite!!
Hito-Shura is my husbando
Yeah agreed, I only recently got into the series by playing Shin Megami Tensei IV and Tokyo Mirage Sessions, but I love both games, they're very unique! The sad thing is that Persona's taken over and SMT's been left behind.
Did You Know The God You Worship Is Dead?
Waluigi can never die.
@@lukeskywalker987 Waluigi isn't God.
@@lukeskywalker987 i can smell you through your comment.
@@lukeskywalker987 damn bro
You realy got the whole squad laughing 😐
SMT? Hooray! Gaijin Goombah? Oh.....
At least he doesn't sound like a video arguing for the flat earth theory in three hours anymore.
What's wrong with Gaijin Goomba?
Ryan McCarthy Look at the post above you. Also everything.
Who gives a shit?
I feel offended by this. Offended that they let a cringey guy like gajin do this.
Isn't gaijin goomba that guy that sexualizes goombas?
"allegedly" it was just a prank bro
he got rid of the titty goomba recently iirc
he has a goomba fetish, it's legit
+GalaxyGhoul ....can goomba's even have dicks?
Goombas look like penis tips
Did you know
That Goomba Got Back?
lol
Now I only see aki twerking
Silvagunner reminding us that this exists is enough.
+Ryutaa Kuzunoha A reckoning is not to be postponed indefinitely.
what?
Few corrections. The Famicom Megami Tensei is not an adaptation of the first Digital Devil Story novel, but rather a sequel to the first two novels (Megami Tensei/Goddess Reincarnation and Mazu no Senshi/Warrior of the Demon City). In the first novel, the primary antagonist is Loki, while in the second, it's Set. Both appear as resurrections in the Famicom game, with Lucifer acting as the main antagonist in it. Incidentally, Lucifer is the main antagonist in the third DDS novel, Tensei no Shuuen/Demise of the Reincarnation (think the second novel as where the story splits between the games and the novel). I think the Telenet version is also supposed to be a sequel.
Second correction is more of a choice of translation. Metempsychosis is kind of an obscure translation, and the generally-accepted translation is Reincarnation.
Third correction is Izanami over Izunami, but that was probably a typo.
Still, kinda impressed that someone bothered doing some research into SMT over Persona.
I'm pretty sure "metempsychosis" and "reincarnation" are mostly synonyms. If you break them down into their pieces, "metempsychosis" is something like "a change in the habitat of a soul" while "reincarnation" means "to become/inhabit flesh again".
Written with this character (真) it's definitely "true". If it was "new", it would be written like this: 新.
How sad is it that Goombah lives in Japan and makes himself out to be a "cultural expert", but doesn't know this?
TehFailur I can imagine he meant the pronounciation to be an allusion to the word "new" because the series startet anew with the rebranding. But he didn't say that.
I don't think he actually lives in Japan, just lived there for a brief period in college. He isn't a self-proclaimed expert, he's just very interested in Japanese culture and has read a lot about it. There's nothing wrong with trying to share knowledge.
+Sweet Meats Except for when that "knowledge" is wrong, right?
Yeah, he moved home. Give the guy a break, not everyone knows everything; besides, I guarantee he didn't write the script...
F E A T U R I N G D A N T E F R O M T H E D E V I L M A Y C R Y S E R I E S
Really love how the MegaTen series draws inspiration from so many cultural norms... From all known religious sources to even be influenced by modern pop culture references and politics... MegaTen franchise is like a melting pot of worldly ideals..
Did you know? I don't even know anything about this game.
Well, you came to the right place!! :)
I like how this got uploaded around the same time GG uploaded his Persona video.
Who is this GG?
+Creta Mihai Ok I can almost kinda understand when people ask a stupid question before reading the description but before reading the title? Seriously?
+Creta Mihai hes obviously talking about the Game Grumps
I can't get over how Gaijin Goombah shit on Hideki Kamiya
+Dev Griffin I love Hideki Kamiya for both his attitude on Twitter and his games.
"Ask your mom."
+Dev Griffin Another amazing one was him having to put up with someone interviewing him about Devil May Cry that was incredibly stupid. I think one question was "Why is Dante's hair white?", which he replied with "Because he's Dante.".
I came for the Megaten trivia and I stayed for Gaijin Goombah. Really love your videos, dude.
I'm pretty sure Imagine got shut down recently in Japan.
I believe It got shut down two months ago
Indeed it did, so ether this was recorded before the server shut down or gajin is a idiot.
or he is missinformed. dont need to be an idiot to not get all the facts right.
+Kyon Op true but this is gajin we taking about. So he is a idiot,
Always nice to see this memes accounts for SMT
Also there seems to be something going on with hospitals in the series. Usually when you're in a hospital in the SMT games literally HELL UNFOLDS
Because hospitals are places fill with despair which the demons feed on, or something.
Hmmm, makes sense, though for the first Persona it seems unlikely to fit in that explanation.
Did this man seriously just reply to himself...
the hospital is a symbol for passing onto the next world. It's a gateway to the afterlife.
That's why the conception in Nocturne takes place in a hospital. You come into it a normal high schooler, with fairly normal life, and when you come out you trespass into a spirit world.
What man are you talking about?
Is it bad that when I start a new Shin Megami Tensei I always expect and look forward to how humanity will get fuck over somehow?
That's normal. SMT 1 was a nuke, which btw was like wtf.
I find how your characters survive destruction of the world the interesting part a.k.a the game.
4:55 That aged _real_ well.
It'd be cool if SMT V used the global apocalypse setting and the open world concept
EDIT: SMT V GOT A TRAILER LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO AND SMT NOCTURNE REMASTER
Do I have news for you
@@TheDragonSeer it's always cool looking at old smt videos and seeing ppl from the future b like guys guess what happened
4:12 i know this is a super old video, BUT, correction:
Shin Megami Tensei NINE is mainline, just like Strange Journey and If..., it's just not numbered. Furthermore, while this is more of a clarification-- it is pretty dissimilar to games like Final Fantasy XII or "singleplayer MMOS". It uses an auto-attack battle system, yes, but it has random encounters, and there is no in-battle movement involved. You basically just watch it play out and step in for healing and the like.
The first Did You Know Gaming where I did know literally everything that was discussed, including several more things that weren't, but felt like they should have been. Also, this was less of a Shin Megami Tensei DYKG, and felt more like Megami Tensei as a whole with how many of the spin-offs were discussed.
finally, a video on REAL shin megami tensei games
bob joe
can you even take on the armies of YHVH?
Says the guy with a Persona 2 channel icon.
not really. dating is optional and doesn't affect the story. no need to me rude.
Look at the edge on this kid
it's a meme ya dip!
Really short video for such a long, convoluted, and complex series.
For those of you asking "where should I start?"
Here are some of the branches of the MT series
SMT
SMT Strange journey DS
SMT IV 3ds
SMT IV Apocalypse 3ds
SMT Nocturne PS2 Classic
Digital Devil Saga
DDS 1 PS2 Classic
DDS 2 PS2 Classic
Devil Summoner
Soul Hackers 3ds
Raidou
Souless PS2 classic
Abaddon PS2 classic
Persona
1 PSP
2 IS PSP
2 EP psone classic
3 Fes PS2 Classic
3 Portable PSP
4 PS2 Classic
4 Golden PSVita
Devil survivor
1 Ds or remake 3ds
2 Ds or remake 3ds
#You can play these games on an emulator if you choose.
Q: Why do people hate the persona series?
A: Technically they don't, they hate the persona series after 2.
Q: Why?
A: Many reasons, the social simulation aspect of it makes it seem like waifu simulator, the stories arent as complex, they arent as hard, and the characters seem like cut outs. Now this wasnt really much a problem with Persona 3 since it had more elements from SMT (think of it like Resident evil 4) but Problem comes in with Persona 4 (think of it like resident evil 5...6).
Q: Why do people dislike Persona 4?
A: Again many reasons. Flat characters, waifu simulator, the social link (an aspect of the social simulation part of the game) wasnt as engaging as Persona 3, easier, and the biggest reasons are
-MILKING THE COW
-ATTRACTS WEEBS
-CAUSES ATLUS TO SWIFT FOCUS
Q: Is persona 4 a bad game?
A: No its actually quite fun. The gameplay is good and slightly challenging for your everyday gamer. The problem lies with the whole "it feels like an anime turned game" meaning flat characters, boring settings, unrealistic dialogue.
#Anime as a whole isnt a bad thing, its only bad when it seems more like you are creating a story that can only exist as an anime rather than a story that become an anime. Good stories can be told but if the stories requires tropes and cliches presented in anime it becomes boring.
Sorry for the long text.
hoped I helped
Angel Ortega Thanks for being the only reasonable person here. I can totally understand that SMT fans don't want he SMT name on Persona considering they have little in common. They are totally different series. But the amount of elitism here is stupid. 4-channers =_= Just wanted to know a good starting point. Like where most people started. Though your categorized list helps.
Angel Ortega interesting
The obvious starting point for people who don't know shit about JRPGs is Persona 3 FES.
I wouldn't say Persona 3 FES is a good starting point, considering the dungeon crawling aspect of the game is monotonous as all heck to slog through.
Persona 5, being similar to the mainline SMT games, is a pretty good place to start. Then you can go to SMT 3 and so on.
Polkadi After playing P5 it will be very hard to return to the older games because they will seem outdated game play vise. P5 is best experienced if you already familiar with the series so you will get all those little references to the older games.
And avoid PS2 P4 at all cost, play Golden.
Y'all should make a follow-up video for this
Yes finally SMT! I have been waiting for this forever! Please do a part 2!
I know this has nothing to do with this video but,
Are you guys ever going to do the "Did you know" for the Tales of Series?
Great idea
did you know
ETRIAN ODYSSEY
In exchange for featuring Dante in their game, Kaneko designed Dante and Vergil's devil triggers in DMC3 which are the most distinct DTs in the series imo
If there's one thing I would love Atlus to take from Pokemon, it would be PvP. Imagine the press turn system in a PvP setting
So metempsychosis is pretty much a fancy way of saying reincarnation?
Now I’m imagining Naoki singing Red Hot Chili Peppers songs. Thanks
Did you know? Persona 5 will stomp FF XV all the way down.
:O
A lot of tasteless people bought FF XV, with its shitty story and shitty gampelay (Iguess that's why they hired some Capcom's people recently), so it sold way more than Persona 5. And considering the number of people playing with the English dub, I guess we can say that good taste lost again.
@LAW why do you dislike the game
5:19 smtV
For some reason this game popped in my mind earlier today. And then a few hours later I find this in my sub box. wtf
Please think about Etrian Odyssey so we can get that next
+NosferatuTodd already release one in japan.
*sees title* oh shiiiiiiiiiit
*sees feat. gaijin goombah* oh. shit.
Another fun fact Shin Megami Tensei : Nocturne or Lucifer's Call is the only one to have ever been tanslate in other language than Japanese and English.
Ay thank you guys for bringing Gaijin to make megaten's curiosities, he's a nice youtuber that deserves more than the stupid backslash he receives normally.
RPGFan represent at 4:32! We are still around and kicking!
rpgfancom interesting
There's a new DYKG video about a very beloved series and the comments are about how:
- How they hate Gaijin.
- How much of a weeb he is.
- How they hate the Game Theorists channel.
- and the fact that he put a pair of tits on a Goomba.
Jesus. And I thought Chris-Chan is pathetic. :/
It's pure cancer.
Thank you. I thought I was the only one without hate in the comments, because damn, those are toxic.
Its pathetic, but at least _some_ of the comments are actually about SMT, even if its mostly just references.
Wow. People can say their opinions in the comments?! That's *weird*
skysands2008
Wow, people can *criticize* others for their opinions, crazy ain't it?!:P
Finally! This series is extremely overlooked.
We really need a "Guide to Megami Tensei" as narrated by GG. I had no idea it was *this* convoluted. Very good episode though! A breathe of fresh air after the lackluster ones recently.
amen brudda
(still salty DYKG STILL hasn't made one for Fatal Frame yet)
If you want you can look up rasen bran. He did a beginner's guide to Shin Megami Tensei
it is RIDICULOUSLY convoluted, bro. I have never played any of the games but within the last year I started getting interested and I went to try and research it and FFS so many spin off titles and reboots and series within series! It was like being thrown into the deep end of a pool !
I STILL have no idea where to begin and can barely even define or describe the series very well
+Dokkalfr just look up Rasen Bran's channel.
he already made a guide on where to start
would've never guessed Demifiend's design was influenced by a Red Hot Chili Pepper's music video, lol. Great video!
Given Shin Megami Tensei's wide focus on all mythologies, I really, really like the idea of a story starting in Japan and spanning the globe coming to a final conclusion in Israel. It just works so well with the set up they have and that's something they wanted to do in the first game! Have they ever revisited this idea in anyway or is the series pretty much always some weird version of Japan?
In 5 it's explained that the entire world is undergoing similar processes to determine their national identity and the cultural zeitgeist in the world to come after, you just happen to live in Japan
In Strange Journey the cast is very international but you're mostly going through a space hole dungeon instead of Earth as the setting
@@Vanity0666 Feels less like it's even "You just happen to live in Japan" and more specifically "You just happen to live in Tokyo". There are other cities in Japan that they could rip locations from for a change (and maybe they have, idk, I've played like four games in the series and there's like 200 or something).
Daily reminder that Undertale ripped off the concept of talking to your enemies from SMT.
Amen
don't forget that Pokemon ripped off SMT's monster catching and saying that SMT ripoff there's but SMT came from the 80's before Pokemon those hypocrites.
Undertale was based on Earthbound
Clicked on the video cause i usually love DYKG
Saw Gaijin Goombah, did a 360, and walked out
Why?
Well, obviously it was a congrulatory twirl before watching the video, because when you do a 360 you end up facing forward anyways.
In return of Dante's inclusion in the NA Nocturne, Kazuma Kaneko provided the designs for Dante and Vergil's Devil Trigger forms in Dante's Awakening. :O
Nice partnership there, mate! :)
There's already a SMT 9, but SMT 5 isn't even out yet.
*proceeds to pack up bags and go home*
That's enough confusion for today.
Is there a reason everyone's hating on Gaijin? Not mad, just want to know what's with all the hate?
I don't know much about JRPG's in general but goddamn this comments section is so salty. It's people from one fandom assailing another just to satisfy their faux-superiority complex. Sometimes I hate sharing the same hobby with people
Uhhh didn't Gaijin Goomba make a goomba with boobs a thing?
You mean his wife?
You can thank geko for making that thing.
I really think a female goomba that was just a normal goomba but in girl's clothes would have been a lot more tasteful and less disturbing, but girls seem to like for everyone to be aware of their tits all the time.
+Sweet Meats Unless the girl is a feminist, in which she shows them off, but screams if you look.
+Awesome-y Guy Isn't that all women, feminist or not?
When your scope goes down from Globe-Trotting to a single neighborhood in Tokyo.
Man, I bet quite a few people (like myself) are so happy that this video exists. We have been waiting for quite some time.
Oh shit finally an SMT vide-
>gaijin goombah
NOPE
Ha! I had the same exact reaction.
What's wrong with Gaijin?
I'm wondering about that too. Does Gaijin Goomba have an anti-fanbase?
?
Not to mention he got some facts about the NES MegaTen games wrong.
Did you know? Alice is the best demon.
Who?
She looks quite interesting form what I saw in the recent trailers.
my mom said hi
lol m2k
Tell your mom I say hi back.
m2k has pimples on his dick
Love this series. Shin Megami Tensei for the SNES is still one of my favorite games of all time.
I always thought that the one featuring Dante was the first in the series. Had no idea this series was this old and long.
So glad Gaijin narrates this
How long ago was this recorded? SMT imagine is not running in japan anymore
weeb weeb is the sound of the police
lol
Clever
Attack on weebos
+DefusedGamer no they actually won't
+DefusedGamer double4anime is that you?
You failed to mention that the reason Dante was in SMT3 was because the character designer for the SMT series was the one who created Dante and Vergil's Devil Trigger modes in Devil May Cry 3
I am actually shocked that I was able to learn stuff I didn't already know from this video considering how big an SMT fan I am. I really appreciate the chance for the main line games to get some attention when Persona usually takes it all.
I liked as well hearing some remixes of classic SMT music in the background. In particular I noticed the boss battle theme from SMT I.
I've been waiting for this!
Seen the new trailer for SMTV, it looks interesting and I want to know what the hell is SMT, maybe get the game and the remake of SMTIII
Persona: Apocalypse-free Zone
SMT: Abandon all hope for ye who enter
It's kinda like a satanic pokémon
I was wondering more story wise
It's almost like how carbuncle summarise it.In smt,we basically just decide how the world gonna continue after the world ending tragedy happened and sometimes in the series,it's pretty much "every route isn't fully right" type of story
Got your facts wrong:
The first 2 MegaTen titles were published by Namco before Atlus got hold of the series. Because Atlus's Megami Tensei did not follow the novel's story line, it was appropriately retitled Shin Megami Tensei.
Also, "metempsychosis?" "Reincarnation" would have been a more fitting name. Hell, it was even used as the remix title for the Persona 3 and 4 soundtracks.
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne will always be my favorite SMT game.
I loved the Demi-Kid games, a great deal funner then Pokemon was and a great story, not to mention two completely different stories for each one. Played both and had a wicked team.
Anyone else think Atlus might retry the open world idea with SMT V?
I have good news
@@jamessicard1705 I called it?
you predicted the future
"You want me to join your party? Forget it. I won't lower myself to the level of Gaijin Goomba. Get ready to die, son of man!"
Also, I literally learned nothing I couldn't already learn from the Megami Tensei wiki today.
I was never big into the persona series, but loved digital devil saga, both of them but really they are one story. Learn us some facts about that game some time.
Did you know this video could be better...
I want a part 2!
I was actually surprised I didn't know some of this!! Nice work!
I miss SMT:Imagine. All those hours
its back again
I have two of the 3ds games and I’ve played the iPhone game which looks too good to be on a phone!
So... Persona is a part of the MegaTen series? Huh, neat.
It's a spin-off series of SMT
@@Kagetora- Actually just Megaten. The SMT part of the titles of Persona 3 and 4 was a marketing scheme made by Atlus West.
I love that the background music is Hazama's theme.
Shin Megami Tensei Nine... I cry everytime I remember that we will never get it ;_;