My dream fashion world is everyone dressing very specifically for their taste and not necessarily having a collective style as a society, across the globe. Exploring colors, textures, different periods of time and cultural inspiration (always in a respectful way). It would make for daily life so much more interesting!
@Trinity M ... Girly i dont feel the same way tho? I dont mind people dressing in my cultural clothing, shows they my culture interesting and beautiful. As long as they're respectful, theres nothing wrong here? Don't go speaking for people.
another great thing about lolita is that a lot of it is second hand (lacemarket!!!)! 90% of my wardrobe is second hand which is quite common which is great for sustainability but also for your pockets because a dress is an investment! as long as you look after it while it is in your life, you can sell it for pretty much the same price later on!
@@LisaFevral Yeah you can't really mindlessly buy Lolita Fashion unless you have an unlimited budget and it is very normalized to sell pieces you don't wear anymore that there are whole websites dedicated to it. Like Lace Market, and ClosetChild.
this video was so comforting to watch after a long day 😌 I was really into lolita when I was younger too. I think it’s definitely easier to find things these days because of adjacent styles like cottage core, which you can use to find pieces to style in a lolita way
I’m glad it was a good addition to your day🥰 and yeah, it seems that with the resurgence of rococo in recent years there are more stores to get similar pieces from
I’ve always been really interested to know more about lolita fashion. im super glad u made a vid about this! way more fun too watch one of my fav youtubers make a vid abt it instead of reading it abt it on google lol
I love Kamekaze girls!!! Phoebe is so cute!!! and I'm glad she answered my question! I'm definitely gonna look into it bc I wanna try the casual look!!
I've always wanted to get into Lolita fashion but I'd be lying if the prices didn't scare me. If I want to buy dresses I can't get them from Ali Express because they're cheap (and the community hates them) and have to go through some really weird means like... Going through TaoBao which is so hard when you don't speak Chinese. Maybe someday...
There are TaoBao resellers that are in English and other languages that you can use for example: Devi Inspired. I know Bodyline has a weird reputation in the Lolita community but they do have cute cheaper Lolita Fashion on their US site.
I get ya, but I do wanna say the community hates them for good reasoning. Most stuff sold on websites like that are stolen designs and images, youd be getting something horrible quality while also supporting a knockoff. It unfortunate that it is a very expensive fashion :(
Kinda off topic but i enjoyed the way u did this interview! Everything was clear and i like how u didn't interrupt your guest! And ofc im pleased with the topic, i love lolita and seeing lolita content always make me happy 🥺 great vid!! Both of u did a great job
Dear Lisa, I love your videos so much. This interview was so informative. I loved hearing about the origins of lolita fashion. It made me think about how motifs of this style can be seen in so many subcultures today. Also!! Your fenty video has inspired me to try looking for new brands to shop from. I totally get if you want to keep specific brands to yourself but a video about sustainable clothing brands for basics and even just a video for sustainable new designers would be super cool. Ty for making content ❤️🪷
Great interview, good questions and satisfying answers and I LOVE that paint overlay Your look reminds me of flappers and I'm not sure if that was intentional but your hairstyle slaps nevertheless
Will she be featured in a live or another video? I feel like even though the style emerged from the idea of not catering to men, it is sexualized today, as a sort of fetish. It would be good to know her view about it.
yeah, we filmed a whole podcast episode, I said that it was gonna be uploaded at the same time as the vid at the end of this video, but it's taking me a bit longer to edit so it's gonna be on the podcast channel(and streaming) in a day!
I recommend everyone to check out Tyler Willis. She's a Texan lolita who is openly queer, swears like sailor, and does a lot of community mom content, giving advice to newbies and so on.
Really interesting video. I didn’t know a lot about Lolita style and this help me a lot. I love seeing people with this type of style like a not « casual style »i would say because it’s also the style that make us different and diversified. Btw could you make maybe a video about judging The Monster High live action outfit because it’s out and they have some really good outfit. I think it would be cool to have like a part 2 of the first video 😄
Sadly, unless you do something along the lines of a swap meet or walking to a local seller, obtaining clothes for lolita, whether new or secondhand, may have a high tendency for waste and contributing to gas emissions. I think of this every time I order overseas. I try to buy in "bulk" with Wunderwelt and ClosetChild, and, depending on the size and weight, items are sometimes individually wrapped. You could choose to reuse those plastics and the potential box it came in, but I doubt most interested in lolita fashion will do this when it is not a visually appealing container. I used to use Lace Market way more, and I think two reused package material and one shipped in a biodegradable bag. Overall, yes, the turnover rate in lolita fashion is certainly not going to be as high as other fashions because the higher price point can be seen as a viable investment and lead to more careful decisions, but some people still get the impulse buy regrets and the concept of fast fashion has surely infiltrated the wholesale side of lolita. It is more the matter of if the individual will care for their clothing for numerous years and not have the cyclical mentality to sell online after a sparse number of wears to get the money for something else online that will soon be sold off. Closet cleanouts can be personally helpful, but I am always amused by seller descriptions that admit they wore a dress once and they bought it from someone who wore it once or they never even opened the wrapping.
@@LisaFevral mine do that too hehe that strangely makes me feel better since you're kinda my inspiration for well pretty much everything, esp in the last few months :D
i love this interview style video hey lisa would you ever consider doing a video on the ACADEMIA STYLE, light, dark etc. Ever since I first found out about I fell in love. It KINDA mixes a few a my favorite things READING, HOT CHOCOLATE AND LIBRARIES 😆❤
I was very curious about this video and liked all the things you two talked about but cannot help but wonder why you did not talk about Nabokov and therefore found the section about s3xual connotations lacking as I don't think it's just a matter of "some creep might have a specific fetish" but this style is literally named after a book about child a8use and I think when talking about the style and using its name you should reflect on and discuss that. I don't mean this in a cancel culture way btw, just would like if you talked about it and maybe didn't push it aside like that ^^'
It is not named after the book or the movie. It just shares the same name. We don't know for sure why the name was chosen but since the style has nothing to do with child abuse it's fair to assume the japanese girls in the 1990s who created the style didn't know much or anything about some gross book/movie from the other side of the pacific. 🩷
@Rosamana yeah the word lolicon is taken from the book, it means lolitacomplex! I wonder if they didn't just use the name lolita since it was already taken by us cute fashionable lolitas
@@user-gx8fw8qr6d There is a pretty big japanese population in brazil so chance are japanesse are aware of the word Lolita as just spanish for sorrow (whicth funny gothic Lolita and japanseess ecanomice crash in 90s that to j-fashion blowing up) there was also the ova hentai of the book that lead to lolicon So wonder if in the japanesse animation and fashion indatrurtys they have the dtincousne Lolita for the fashion loli for the fetish but you espielly because there are Lolita characters who ar'nt lolis or atleast not sexulized lolis🤔🤔
I have a question that could be considred as trash but... isn't the Lolita Fashion a kind of European *Culture Appropriation* ? My point is about the fact it's not a problem for Europeans, but somehow it's problematic when it's not European...
I would say no because there's not necessarily any religious or spiritual meaning behind it considering most of it takes inspiration from Roccoco, Victorian, Edwardian, etc. Cultural appropriation in fashion is defined as using symbols from other cultures without any consideration for the meanings of the items. The European style that Lolita takes from is generally considered as eras of fashion, do not generally hold cultural meanings behind the garments, and are mostly aesthetic so that's why I wouldn't consider it cultural appropriation.
colonizers were trying to push their entire way of life, there is no european cultural appropriation, that's assimilation n that's what the goal was for europeans during this time and to this day.
Just to add onto what Alabama has said, Japan also has a history of incorporating European/Western style wear since the time that they were forced to come out of isolation to trade and engage in worldly affairs by the american navy expedition led by Admiral Matthew Perry in the 1850s (and even more influence too when America occupied Japan after WWII for a brief time). Even the common navy styled school uniform (which has now evolved in an expansion on this style) is taken from the navy uniform of the Americans who came to Japan during this expedition. So Japan has their own history too with European/Western fashion being incorporated into their own culture. I mean up to this day, the fashion in japan since the 1800s have evolved away in daily wear cases from their own traditional wear into a more western style. I think with your logic, you would have to argue that a majority of non-traditional clothes in Japan is cultural appropriation, since they are not following their own traditional culture and wearing kimonos and yukatas daily, which would just be non sense.
As someone who lives in europe you really cannt culturally appropriate western european culture considering its imperial history. Western european culture was forced on the rest of the world through colonialism and thus is now globalised. Eg: tie/blazer suits/tailored pants are seen as a professional attire everywhere but originates from west europe bc it was forced on everyone else.
it would be appreciation they are not using cultural factors and important and sensitive they are just using daily children's clothing that have no bigger meaning
this was so fun~❤
My dream fashion world is everyone dressing very specifically for their taste and not necessarily having a collective style as a society, across the globe. Exploring colors, textures, different periods of time and cultural inspiration (always in a respectful way). It would make for daily life so much more interesting!
@Trinity M Was this comment in respect to the original comment, or is there something that was deleted? Because I am very confused.
@Trinity M ... Girly i dont feel the same way tho? I dont mind people dressing in my cultural clothing, shows they my culture interesting and beautiful. As long as they're respectful, theres nothing wrong here? Don't go speaking for people.
another great thing about lolita is that a lot of it is second hand (lacemarket!!!)! 90% of my wardrobe is second hand which is quite common which is great for sustainability but also for your pockets because a dress is an investment! as long as you look after it while it is in your life, you can sell it for pretty much the same price later on!
Yeah there’s definitely less mindless consumption going on(based on what I’ve gathered)
@@LisaFevral Yeah you can't really mindlessly buy Lolita Fashion unless you have an unlimited budget and it is very normalized to sell pieces you don't wear anymore that there are whole websites dedicated to it. Like Lace Market, and ClosetChild.
Lolita Aesthetics are so cute. I’ve seen videos on it and the level of customisation is giving Y2K Barbie Website’s Online Games which we love ❤
Your videos are always so nice to watch
Oh thank you😌🤍
So so interesting!! Such a beautiful and unique style!! I personally don’t wear Lolita fashion but I definitely appreciate it and LOVE seeing it lol
Yeah, me too! Love seeing people wearing really unique styles in general haha
As someone who wears Lolita thank you for talking to irl lolita .Ps Phobe is super cute.I love her Misty sky coord
I’m glad you enjoyed the video🥰 and ikr!
this video was so comforting to watch after a long day 😌 I was really into lolita when I was younger too. I think it’s definitely easier to find things these days because of adjacent styles like cottage core, which you can use to find pieces to style in a lolita way
I’m glad it was a good addition to your day🥰 and yeah, it seems that with the resurgence of rococo in recent years there are more stores to get similar pieces from
You should do a look inspired by flappers. I can't stop imagining how well it would suit you!
honestly that would be fantastic to do! I will try to find pieces for it!
OMG I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS AND IVE BECOME OBSESSED WITH LOLITA FASHION AND NOW TWO THINGS THAT I LOVE SO MUCH ARE INTERTWINING IM SO HAPPY AND EXCITED
I’m glad it’s up your alley🥰🥰🤍
I’ve always been really interested to know more about lolita fashion. im super glad u made a vid about this! way more fun too watch one of my fav youtubers make a vid abt it instead of reading it abt it on google lol
I love Kamekaze girls!!! Phoebe is so cute!!! and I'm glad she answered my question! I'm definitely gonna look into it bc I wanna try the casual look!!
I love the edits in your videos, extra points for the paint frames and the click sounds 💗💖
ah thank you for noticing🥰🥰
SO HYPED FOR THIS!!
you were so right about the single pieces becoming trendy, jorts ,bubble skirts , shirts as pants etc
I've always wanted to get into Lolita fashion but I'd be lying if the prices didn't scare me. If I want to buy dresses I can't get them from Ali Express because they're cheap (and the community hates them) and have to go through some really weird means like... Going through TaoBao which is so hard when you don't speak Chinese. Maybe someday...
I think the youtuber LoveLor that has video tips on how to get them! 💖
Yeah it’s a bit difficult to do, I definitely agree
There are TaoBao resellers that are in English and other languages that you can use for example: Devi Inspired. I know Bodyline has a weird reputation in the Lolita community but they do have cute cheaper Lolita Fashion on their US site.
I get ya, but I do wanna say the community hates them for good reasoning. Most stuff sold on websites like that are stolen designs and images, youd be getting something horrible quality while also supporting a knockoff. It unfortunate that it is a very expensive fashion :(
@@gooeater1544 I know the reasons. I recommended them because from my and others people's experience they have gotten better.
This what we've been waiting for!! Thank you for your hard work as always ~
This was such a great video! I loved the editing and the convo and can’t wait for the podcast ep!
I’m glad you liked it, and I’m working on the podcast episode now, it will be out in a couple of days🥰
Kinda off topic but i enjoyed the way u did this interview! Everything was clear and i like how u didn't interrupt your guest! And ofc im pleased with the topic, i love lolita and seeing lolita content always make me happy 🥺 great vid!! Both of u did a great job
Dear Lisa,
I love your videos so much. This interview was so informative. I loved hearing about the origins of lolita fashion. It made me think about how motifs of this style can be seen in so many subcultures today. Also!! Your fenty video has inspired me to try looking for new brands to shop from. I totally get if you want to keep specific brands to yourself but a video about sustainable clothing brands for basics and even just a video for sustainable new designers would be super cool.
Ty for making content ❤️🪷
Omg thank you sm, I’m really glad you enjoyed the video!🤍
I liked it too and love your comment and pfp
thank you from a fellow Lolita! I clicked so fast
Great interview, good questions and satisfying answers and I LOVE that paint overlay
Your look reminds me of flappers and I'm not sure if that was intentional but your hairstyle slaps nevertheless
Yeah I was going for the finger wave style for the hair, since my hair length kinda requires gel or mousse to stay in place anyway ahah
I trust your content so much that I'm in the fase where I like the video before it starts
omg thank you😭
I like this style analysis type of videos!
I love Lolita!! I always loved it! Although it was hard to wear...
Will she be featured in a live or another video? I feel like even though the style emerged from the idea of not catering to men, it is sexualized today, as a sort of fetish. It would be good to know her view about it.
yeah, we filmed a whole podcast episode, I said that it was gonna be uploaded at the same time as the vid at the end of this video, but it's taking me a bit longer to edit so it's gonna be on the podcast channel(and streaming) in a day!
Not the Pre-Windows XP Windows making me happy.
I recommend everyone to check out Tyler Willis. She's a Texan lolita who is openly queer, swears like sailor, and does a lot of community mom content, giving advice to newbies and so on.
Okay but u did great as an interviewer
thank you🥰🥰
Really interesting video. I didn’t know a lot about Lolita style and this help me a lot. I love seeing people with this type of style like a not « casual style »i would say because it’s also the style that make us different and diversified. Btw could you make maybe a video about judging The Monster High live action outfit because it’s out and they have some really good outfit. I think it would be cool to have like a part 2 of the first video 😄
on the topic of lolita in ai yazawa media theres also p chan from gokinjo monogatari!:3
oh yes, you're right! that's a pretty famous one too, Ai Yazawa definitely likes to reference lolita fashion a lot in her work!
Im crying cause your look- 😭😭
what why😲
Omg I love Lolita fashion!
I'm here to learn :) also ye ladies looketh nice-eth
Me too, since Phoebe is the one with all the knowledge hehe and thank you🥰🥰
I'll probably get my claws on the casual look but I'll draw the sweet and gothic looks :))
Yeah, the casual looks are also really cute!
@@LisaFevral yes, very chic
unexpected, but cool
thanks for answering my question (~:
Of course!!🥰
Sadly, unless you do something along the lines of a swap meet or walking to a local seller, obtaining clothes for lolita, whether new or secondhand, may have a high tendency for waste and contributing to gas emissions. I think of this every time I order overseas. I try to buy in "bulk" with Wunderwelt and ClosetChild, and, depending on the size and weight, items are sometimes individually wrapped. You could choose to reuse those plastics and the potential box it came in, but I doubt most interested in lolita fashion will do this when it is not a visually appealing container. I used to use Lace Market way more, and I think two reused package material and one shipped in a biodegradable bag.
Overall, yes, the turnover rate in lolita fashion is certainly not going to be as high as other fashions because the higher price point can be seen as a viable investment and lead to more careful decisions, but some people still get the impulse buy regrets and the concept of fast fashion has surely infiltrated the wholesale side of lolita. It is more the matter of if the individual will care for their clothing for numerous years and not have the cyclical mentality to sell online after a sparse number of wears to get the money for something else online that will soon be sold off.
Closet cleanouts can be personally helpful, but I am always amused by seller descriptions that admit they wore a dress once and they bought it from someone who wore it once or they never even opened the wrapping.
you look so good in short hair i just cant get mine to look like i want them to :(
Omg thank you! But if you would’ve seen it on most days - my hair is literally standing up and going whichever each way ahahah
@@LisaFevral mine do that too hehe that strangely makes me feel better since you're kinda my inspiration for well pretty much everything, esp in the last few months :D
Omg😲 thank you!🥰
i love this interview style video
hey lisa would you ever consider doing a video on the ACADEMIA STYLE, light, dark etc. Ever since I first found out about I fell in love. It KINDA mixes a few a my favorite things READING, HOT CHOCOLATE AND LIBRARIES 😆❤
I would love to cover it in the future🥰
Two pretty fashionable girls, we stan
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Вы обе прелестные в этом видео
Спасибо большое🥰
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If you can would you please make more videos on jfashion in the future 🙏
I’ll put it on my to do list!!
with zero context could you checkout the fashion style of Bayonetta games
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I was very curious about this video and liked all the things you two talked about but cannot help but wonder why you did not talk about Nabokov and therefore found the section about s3xual connotations lacking as I don't think it's just a matter of "some creep might have a specific fetish" but this style is literally named after a book about child a8use and I think when talking about the style and using its name you should reflect on and discuss that. I don't mean this in a cancel culture way btw, just would like if you talked about it and maybe didn't push it aside like that ^^'
Because that books shit;)
It is not named after the book or the movie. It just shares the same name. We don't know for sure why the name was chosen but since the style has nothing to do with child abuse it's fair to assume the japanese girls in the 1990s who created the style didn't know much or anything about some gross book/movie from the other side of the pacific. 🩷
@@user-gx8fw8qr6d Yay form I hear the book lead to lolicon instead🥲🥲
@Rosamana yeah the word lolicon is taken from the book, it means lolitacomplex! I wonder if they didn't just use the name lolita since it was already taken by us cute fashionable lolitas
@@user-gx8fw8qr6d There is a pretty big japanese population in brazil so chance are japanesse are aware of the word Lolita as just spanish for sorrow (whicth funny gothic Lolita and japanseess ecanomice crash in 90s that to j-fashion blowing up) there was also the ova hentai of the book that lead to lolicon So wonder if in the japanesse animation and fashion indatrurtys they have the dtincousne Lolita for the fashion loli for the fetish but you espielly because there are Lolita characters who ar'nt lolis or atleast not sexulized lolis🤔🤔
I have a question that could be considred as trash but... isn't the Lolita Fashion a kind of European *Culture Appropriation* ?
My point is about the fact it's not a problem for Europeans, but somehow it's problematic when it's not European...
I would say no because there's not necessarily any religious or spiritual meaning behind it considering most of it takes inspiration from Roccoco, Victorian, Edwardian, etc. Cultural appropriation in fashion is defined as using symbols from other cultures without any consideration for the meanings of the items. The European style that Lolita takes from is generally considered as eras of fashion, do not generally hold cultural meanings behind the garments, and are mostly aesthetic so that's why I wouldn't consider it cultural appropriation.
colonizers were trying to push their entire way of life, there is no european cultural appropriation, that's assimilation n that's what the goal was for europeans during this time and to this day.
Just to add onto what Alabama has said, Japan also has a history of incorporating European/Western style wear since the time that they were forced to come out of isolation to trade and engage in worldly affairs by the american navy expedition led by Admiral Matthew Perry in the 1850s (and even more influence too when America occupied Japan after WWII for a brief time). Even the common navy styled school uniform (which has now evolved in an expansion on this style) is taken from the navy uniform of the Americans who came to Japan during this expedition. So Japan has their own history too with European/Western fashion being incorporated into their own culture. I mean up to this day, the fashion in japan since the 1800s have evolved away in daily wear cases from their own traditional wear into a more western style. I think with your logic, you would have to argue that a majority of non-traditional clothes in Japan is cultural appropriation, since they are not following their own traditional culture and wearing kimonos and yukatas daily, which would just be non sense.
As someone who lives in europe you really cannt culturally appropriate western european culture considering its imperial history. Western european culture was forced on the rest of the world through colonialism and thus is now globalised. Eg: tie/blazer suits/tailored pants are seen as a professional attire everywhere but originates from west europe bc it was forced on everyone else.
it would be appreciation they are not using cultural factors and important and sensitive they are just using daily children's clothing that have no bigger meaning