Here's a look at the gorgeous offering by Seiko. The blue dial is my favorite. If only they had made this with Grand Cocktail standards. But it's a worthy piece nonetheless.
Hey, I love the shot of the blue watches of your collection. I’m not yet at the stage in my life where I can afford an omega sea-master, however I do have this seiko presage and that blue citizen promaster. Awesome watches, the both of them.
I absolutely love mine. The dial just comes to life in natural light, its just amazing. My only small gripe is I wish the crown fitted more snug to the case otherwise its perfect.
I have the same one a leather strip. When I hear other youtubers I hear them complain about the so called lesser movement. But at the end of the day it is about the durability and the accuracy. The durability is great without a doubt. And really the accuracy is not a problem either. The one I have loses about 5 seconds a day, which is fine. So I agree, a great whatch for the price.
PierreB - I've rotated mine overnight between dial up and 3 oclock up since I first set it a month ago and my official reading is currently +0.0 sec a day. Can't beat that!
Totally agree. Hypnotic blue dial. I got one for less than $300 at Macy's during their holiday sale. Stellar deal on a piece that looks so much more high end. After seeing the Presage SSA393 live in person, I bought that one too. Upgraded movement, nicer brown mock croc leather deployant clasp strap, and that dial is a gorgeous subtle purple that turns electric in the sunlight.
Sure it’s not perfect but it’s relatively inexpensive. And, will stand out as a beauty in ANY watch collection. Thanks for that mellow no nonsense review.
Excellent review Dave. My thoughts exactly. It’s gorgeous but niggles me how corners have been cut on bracelet quality and handlex Chryslal. Here in Europe it’s retailing for the equivalent of 450 dollars. Generally I would expect solid endlinks and saphire for that price. No doubt they are a top brand however the cost cutting exercises do often annoy me. Saphire Chrystal , better bracelet and a bit of movement decoration it would be a must have , even at a higher price. At present I’m still unsure..
I definitely agree. Same here. Love the Cocktail but these things are bothering me. I own 5 Seikos from entry to higher end ones (including SARX013 JDM model) but this Cocktail time just doesn't feel spot on... to many corners cut imho. Nevertheless, love the piece and many congrats to you, Dave!
Great review. In my opinion however, the "Presage" font is a plus, pushing the look of the watch in a more masculine, less "dandyish" direction. It would probably take me a bit longer to feel really comfortable with the crown size/shape actually.
Excellent overview of the new Cocktail Time Presage series of watches. I have this nagging feeling that one of the original Cocktail Time watches, one of which was the SARB065 you mention, is going to become a highly-sougtht-after timepiece and despite my general lack of need for a dress watch, I probably should buckle down and get a 065 before they become astronomically expensive. Nothing against the new Presage variants, but I think the original is going to become a WIS legend before too long. I have a 6R15 movement in a Sumo, and it doesn't really impress me in any great way. I have half a dozen watches, Seiko and micro-brands, that have the 4R36 and they match the 6R in beat frequency (3 Hz), accuracy (none of mine are all that great, about +/- 10 seconds a day), and the 6R's ten extra hours of power reserve isn't all that much more. So the 4R35 in the new Presage line should be just fine for everyone and it provides a lower price point than Seiko's watches featuring the 6R15. So many Swiss and micro-brand manufacturers provide sapphire crystal at this price point and while I have no general complaints about Hardlex in my own collection, it does seem curious why Seiko is being so stubborn about it -- particularly in the dressier Presage line.
Lee K - Good points on the 4r35. I've always had good experiences with the movement. I always hear people treating the 6r15 as if it's significantly better, but maybe not. I didn't realize they had the same beat rate.
Yeah, there is a lot of discussion about Seiko choosing to use their 6R15 movement (21,600 BPH) in their middle range watches (Sumo, the new 62mas re-imaginings, the Shogun, the Transocean, others), when their. Swiss competitors frequently use the 28,800 BPH ETA 2824-2 or Sellita SW-200 movement. Some of the Swatch Group brands (Hamilton, Certina, Tissot) are now using the Powermatic 80 movement, which is a 2824-2 slowed down to 21,600 BPH but with a resulting bump in power reserve to 80 hours. This makes the 6R15's power reserve of 50 hours look quite lacking. Seiko's 28,800 BPH movement is the 8L35, seen in the MM300 and the SLA017 Limited Edition. I wish they would consider dropping that down to the lower price levels. I like the 4R36 and NH35 movements in general, but haven't ever experienced the accuracy that you are fortunate to get with your new Presage Cocktail Time. I would consider yourself quite lucky.
Love the Watch,have the same Bracelet on my Blue Dial Solar,But this stem is little large for dress or cocktail watch,But great price if you don't mind that.
That’s a great review. Loved it. This watch is available in India as well. Seriously planning to buy it but I am confused between this watch and the TISSOT LE LOCLE POWERMATIC 80 T006.407.16.033.00 it has 80 hours power reserve and Sapphire Crystal. Both are at the same price point. Any Suggestions from your side?
Shailesh Karekar - The Tissot is a high quality piece for the price. Sapphire crystal and 100m water resistance. The 80 hr power reserve is pretty amazing. So it's definitely more watch for the money. The question is do you like the watch's design better than the Seiko, and will the smaller size (39mm) work for you? I really like Tissot as a brand.
Fantastic review. What size are your wrists. Mine are 7.5 inches and I normally wouldn't go for anything under a 42mm dial as it would look too small. That's the only thing putting me off. Been offered one brand new for £265.
The PRESAGE AUTOMATIC text ruins the watch for me. Too bad. Got the SARB065 and would get this one as well, wouldn't it have been for the totally out of place text on the dial.
Great video! Can you please tell me what noise your SRPB41 makes? I bought mine and received it yesterday. But I noticed that it makes quite a distinctive noise (quite loud kinda like a winding spbrrrrrrr noise) I am new to watches and am wondering if I recieved a defective/broken model.
Hi Dave, this was as an excellent review. I am considering buying this watch but wanted to know if the crown is a screw in crown or just push pull. The manual on the seiko website does not make it very clear. Thanks in advance!
I love the blue dial and the bracelet option. I've never handled the SARB65, but given that it's discontinued, it would be a great find if you can get one. They are a notch better in terms of quality.
I sold this watch a while back, but I think the watch works well in both casual and formal settings. It got a lot of wrist time in my rotation, but I work in a business casual environment. Hope that helps!
Dave's Watch Love understandeable, i gotta respect you even take the time to respond. To me it seems weird that in the beginning you said you got doubts about the leather strap on the original cocktail, and then on this one you mentioned you wanted a leather strap, that is why i felt moved to comment. Otherwise a great review about a in my opinion great watch!
You did it justice . This is the best review of this watch on TH-cam. Thank you sir .
Great work and amazing footage!
In my opinion, the best overall value for it's price point.
Just got one, it's absolutely stunning. Can't wait to show it off.
Hey, I love the shot of the blue watches of your collection. I’m not yet at the stage in my life where I can afford an omega sea-master, however I do have this seiko presage and that blue citizen promaster. Awesome watches, the both of them.
Great review! I appreciate that you are not only talking about the pros, but also about the weaknesses of the watch.
Getting Seiko Presage SSA341J1 in two days... Really excited
This is a great humble review!
Thank you, Ramon.
Awesome review! Need more like this. Wish I found this channel earlier. I want to buy this Seiko and you ensured me this is good decision. Thanks!
Excellent review . That dial is just stunning !
I absolutely love mine. The dial just comes to life in natural light, its just amazing. My only small gripe is I wish the crown fitted more snug to the case otherwise its perfect.
I have the same one a leather strip. When I hear other youtubers I hear them complain about the so called lesser movement. But at the end of the day it is about the durability and the accuracy. The durability is great without a doubt. And really the accuracy is not a problem either. The one I have loses about 5 seconds a day, which is fine. So I agree, a great whatch for the price.
PierreB - I've rotated mine overnight between dial up and 3 oclock up since I first set it a month ago and my official reading is currently +0.0 sec a day. Can't beat that!
BEST review of this watch I have seen... And I have seen A LOT :) Thank you, Dave
Thank you! I appreciate you watching.
This review was super satisfying
Totally agree. Hypnotic blue dial. I got one for less than $300 at Macy's during their holiday sale. Stellar deal on a piece that looks so much more high end. After seeing the Presage SSA393 live in person, I bought that one too. Upgraded movement, nicer brown mock croc leather deployant clasp strap, and that dial is a gorgeous subtle purple that turns electric in the sunlight.
thumbs up, I have the chocolate brown version and I HATE brown. But my brown Cocktail is da bomb. Wanted a brown watch for a change in my collection.
First time finding one of your vids. Love your review style. Subscribed!!
Thank you for the SRBP Vs. SARY explanation... I was looking to understand exactly that (and google has pretty much failed me).
Excellent video review. A steal at $300.
Your style of reviewing is amazing! Keep it up.
Paolo Gomez - That's very kind! Thank you.
Sure it’s not perfect but it’s relatively inexpensive. And, will stand out as a beauty in ANY watch collection. Thanks for that mellow no nonsense review.
Love from 🇱🇰 Srilanka
Great review. Very thorough and the delivery was on point. Just subscribed and looking forward to more reviews 👍🏼
Excellent review Dave. My thoughts exactly. It’s gorgeous but niggles me how corners have been cut on bracelet quality and handlex Chryslal. Here in Europe it’s retailing for the equivalent of 450 dollars. Generally I would expect solid endlinks and saphire for that price. No doubt they are a top brand however the cost cutting exercises do often annoy me. Saphire Chrystal , better bracelet and a bit of movement decoration it would be a must have , even at a higher price. At present I’m still unsure..
I definitely agree. Same here. Love the Cocktail but these things are bothering me. I own 5 Seikos from entry to higher end ones (including SARX013 JDM model) but this Cocktail time just doesn't feel spot on... to many corners cut imho. Nevertheless, love the piece and many congrats to you, Dave!
Great review. In my opinion however, the "Presage" font is a plus, pushing the look of the watch in a more masculine, less "dandyish" direction. It would probably take me a bit longer to feel really comfortable with the crown size/shape actually.
That's really a very nice review 👌👌
Excellent overview of the new Cocktail Time Presage series of watches.
I have this nagging feeling that one of the original Cocktail Time watches, one of which was the SARB065 you mention, is going to become a highly-sougtht-after timepiece and despite my general lack of need for a dress watch, I probably should buckle down and get a 065 before they become astronomically expensive. Nothing against the new Presage variants, but I think the original is going to become a WIS legend before too long.
I have a 6R15 movement in a Sumo, and it doesn't really impress me in any great way. I have half a dozen watches, Seiko and micro-brands, that have the 4R36 and they match the 6R in beat frequency (3 Hz), accuracy (none of mine are all that great, about +/- 10 seconds a day), and the 6R's ten extra hours of power reserve isn't all that much more. So the 4R35 in the new Presage line should be just fine for everyone and it provides a lower price point than Seiko's watches featuring the 6R15.
So many Swiss and micro-brand manufacturers provide sapphire crystal at this price point and while I have no general complaints about Hardlex in my own collection, it does seem curious why Seiko is being so stubborn about it -- particularly in the dressier Presage line.
Lee K - Good points on the 4r35. I've always had good experiences with the movement. I always hear people treating the 6r15 as if it's significantly better, but maybe not. I didn't realize they had the same beat rate.
Yeah, there is a lot of discussion about Seiko choosing to use their 6R15 movement (21,600 BPH) in their middle range watches (Sumo, the new 62mas re-imaginings, the Shogun, the Transocean, others), when their. Swiss competitors frequently use the 28,800 BPH ETA 2824-2 or Sellita SW-200 movement. Some of the Swatch Group brands (Hamilton, Certina, Tissot) are now using the Powermatic 80 movement, which is a 2824-2 slowed down to 21,600 BPH but with a resulting bump in power reserve to 80 hours. This makes the 6R15's power reserve of 50 hours look quite lacking. Seiko's 28,800 BPH movement is the 8L35, seen in the MM300 and the SLA017 Limited Edition. I wish they would consider dropping that down to the lower price levels.
I like the 4R36 and NH35 movements in general, but haven't ever experienced the accuracy that you are fortunate to get with your new Presage Cocktail Time. I would consider yourself quite lucky.
Excellent review and great watch! Just subbed 👍🏻
Dave... A watch review should and only should be made the way you make it.
Got one brand new with warranty for 250usd, love it
Thanks
Congrats & thanks for the review
500 from what I've seen but I like it
great review!
Good video. I am thinking of getting the white dial for $ 400 can .
Love the Watch,have the same Bracelet on my Blue Dial Solar,But this stem is little large for dress or cocktail watch,But great price if you don't mind that.
Loved the review!
Good stuff!
That’s a great review. Loved it. This watch is available in India as well. Seriously planning to buy it but I am confused between this watch and the TISSOT LE LOCLE POWERMATIC 80 T006.407.16.033.00 it has 80 hours power reserve and Sapphire Crystal. Both are at the same price point. Any Suggestions from your side?
Shailesh Karekar - The Tissot is a high quality piece for the price. Sapphire crystal and 100m water resistance. The 80 hr power reserve is pretty amazing. So it's definitely more watch for the money. The question is do you like the watch's design better than the Seiko, and will the smaller size (39mm) work for you? I really like Tissot as a brand.
I want one..
3:02 LOL dude !
Fantastic review. What size are your wrists. Mine are 7.5 inches and I normally wouldn't go for anything under a 42mm dial as it would look too small. That's the only thing putting me off. Been offered one brand new for £265.
The PRESAGE AUTOMATIC text ruins the watch for me. Too bad. Got the SARB065 and would get this one as well, wouldn't it have been for the totally out of place text on the dial.
Great video! Can you please tell me what noise your SRPB41 makes? I bought mine and received it yesterday. But I noticed that it makes quite a distinctive noise (quite loud kinda like a winding spbrrrrrrr noise) I am new to watches and am wondering if I recieved a defective/broken model.
Its highly likely that you do belong to the world of cinema. The review seemed to be so engaging.
Hi Dave, this was as an excellent review. I am considering buying this watch but wanted to know if the crown is a screw in crown or just push pull. The manual on the seiko website does not make it very clear. Thanks in advance!
It's a great watch! The crown is not screw down. Just push/pull. Hope that helps!
Idk I really do not like the bracelet in combination with the case. The dial, of course, is beautiful. The crown is also very nice.
Beautiful watch but two big disappointments are Hardlex crystal and bracelet finishing. Seiko should seriously think about it.
Great review with much information. So do you prefer the srpb41 instead the sarb65?
I love the blue dial and the bracelet option. I've never handled the SARB65, but given that it's discontinued, it would be a great find if you can get one. They are a notch better in terms of quality.
@@DavesWatchLove so if you had the chance to get one you'll grab the sarb :). Sarb line is great alpinist 033 035. Best wishes to you
@@DavesWatchLove the blue dial looks better for me than the sarb065 but both are here available
Nice review
How often do you wear it since it's more of a dress watch
Asking you as someone who wants to buy it
I sold this watch a while back, but I think the watch works well in both casual and formal settings. It got a lot of wrist time in my rotation, but I work in a business casual environment. Hope that helps!
@@DavesWatchLove thanks mate 👍
You shouldn’t press your own opinion that much in a review. This watch is great.
I would agree if there were such a thing as true objectivity in this hobby. But there's not.
Dave's Watch Love understandeable, i gotta respect you even take the time to respond. To me it seems weird that in the beginning you said you got doubts about the leather strap on the original cocktail, and then on this one you mentioned you wanted a leather strap, that is why i felt moved to comment. Otherwise a great review about a in my opinion great watch!
Lol did you say pree-sage
I won’t buy hardlex anymore. Saphire is the best. Dial design is fine but if you have the crystal scratched, it just looks awful.
What happened to your Marathon GSAR???
I sold that last year to fund my Speedmaster. It was my first Swiss watch, so it was painful.
Sorry to hear that. I've been wanting to buy one, but the prices on the gsar have gone up so much the past year... almost $200.
does this watch suit to a sporty/casual outfit?
I think so. It's a great all-around piece.
I can get it for 287 gbp, is that a good price?
I have a sarb065 4 u
Bracelet is ugly af. I will buy the watch and change the bracelet from day 1. Black leather is what I see.