Jeep Suspension On A Chevy!?! onX Offroad Build Challenge Part: 4
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- So you know we can't do a solid axle swap without using some good ole Jeep parts. In the garage today we get visited by Ian Johnson from @BigTireGarage and we acquire some jeep parts from S&B Motors where we had @MattsOffRoadRecovery help us get my old Willys Jeep out from the weeds. #smokeshowS10
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Leave the wheelbase at the current length. It’ll help with the rear driveshaft angle In case you want to lift the truck higher in the future.
That's very positive, well said Mike 🇺🇸
Low cog cut and bob it 😂
Agreed!!! 👍
I agree keep the 4 inches
plus longer means more storage for when he makes it to the Ultimate adventure
I always like watching Colt builds since he just normal garage with no lift like 99% of the people at home.
Thanks Les, that's the point of this build
Kind of surprised you are not doing the shackle reversal for the better ride quality….
Still really enjoy the videos and how you take time to explain what you are doing.
I'm not sure about with SAS swapped s10's but when I did a Dakota it was just not possible to do the rear shackle setup.
Look out! Magic sunglass at 15:54!
Good video Sir, thanks for sharing.
I like the idea of longer wheelbase. I think you get better crawling with longer reach. I would leave the rear axle right where it is. I know that wheels and tires are gonna' be a huge expense, but if you want bead retention without the expense of bead lock rims you can go old school. We used to get decent results with panhead metal screws and glue. If you have an old set of wagon spoke steel wheels it is easy.
no need to put holes in your wheels, the snow wheeler guys build up the inner beads with some wraps of gorilla tape and run low single digit psi without debeading. you can also scuff up the surfaces really good and use tire bead sealant to glue the beads to the wheel
I will refer you to what you had said. "Keep it stupid simple" or was it the other way around? If you don't have to move the rear axle leave it alone and work on something else. I'm currently enjoying watching your back catalogue of videos. Loving how you present what you are doing even without the fancy garage/workshop. Keep up the good work. 👍
What you're doing with the S-10 is already amazing. My personal suggestion would be to leave the rear axle as is, keep the 126" wheelbase and spend that time (and money) elsewhere. I think Gladiators are 126" wheelbase and still, their main problem is not their wheelbase length; it's their departure angle. I would modify the rear (bed, frame, etc.), so as not to have a problem with the departure angle on the S-10.
Love the detail of your videos. Reminds me of when I was young and watching Ian Johnson. For real. Great job!
Thank you Brian!
Good morning I would leave the wheel base where it is.
I am really enjoying this build series and seeing your vision become reality.
The one thing I would add if it was me was a winch so if you get in trouble you can easily get yourself out.
Leave it 126. There WILL be a time crunch with something else down the line with the build. Keep moving forward with good pace to be better able to tackle that unforeseen issue with alacrity. 😊
Should have put the shackles in the rear of the leafs. Every CJ or YJ I have had that was one of the first mods made. Just my opinion but I have read several articles saying that it works much better this way. Just think about how going forward into an obstacle it will flex out much better with the shackle in the rear...🤓
I have read it's also a compromise to on road handling which is also a large part of ua.
@@lukewalker1116 solid axle toyotas drive just fine on the street with shackle on the rear of the leaf
I’m guessing he’s not doing a shackle reverse to keep the tire out of the body on full stuff. When you shackle reverse, the tire moves back during compression and he doesn’t have the room behind the tire.
@@psualligater shoulda ran yota RUF packs and stretched the front more, way better approach angle and better ride
Rear shackles on front springs are supposed to be better on bumps at speed. During slow speed stuff like rock crawling, the shackle in front pushes the axle into the rock or ledge more. Both are good, but for different reasons.
I agree leave the wheel base like she is, you've had my vote since day 1. I hope you make it I miss my s15 I had an 86. I think a ratty patina would make her look mean at the end. Good luck to you.
It is so cool seeing a TH-camr build these things not far from my home town
Leave it, you'll need it for clearance on the big rock trails they take you on! Your gonna make it easy!
126 should be great
Good ride and saves you some time, work and money
Excited to see the S10. I say keep the wheelbase, KISS.
Thats a great fire safety tip!
Build is looking awesome! S10's are tough little trucks. Had a 91 2-wheel drive back in the day and loved it. You do an awesome job explaining what your doing. Can't wait to see this progress.
Btw, beautiful scenery from your shop.
Love the build Colt! Quote of the week "Fire is more funner".
Very cool! I’m excited to see the full build! I vote to move the axle forward 4” and bob the bed.
Cheers!
Long wheel base for the win. You should disguise the truck. Take off anything / everything that indicates it's a Chevy. Then put a seven slot grill on the front with a big Ford emblem in the center. Cut out the raised Chevy emblem from the tail gate and replace it with one from a Toyota, put a Nisson emblem across the top of the windshield and change the side emblems with Ram and Hummer emblems.
nice work ! I like the way you present material
The 126 WB on 40's will be good and will prove to be an asset.
I vote take the 4" as long as it doesnt hurt driveshaft angle. Better break over. Also bed chop and throw or chop a camper for your UA gear lol. I understand what others are saying about work load but shouldnt be too bad. Just ask yourself if the comanche benefit more if it was a bit shorter and go from there. At least you have a vehicle that you have experience with to help with your decision.......good luck Bleepies!
Colt I am new here and I have to say I really enjoy hearing you talk through your build the way you do. It's very informative for a guy that's never been a rockhound at all, citylife was my lot in life. It wasn't till I started seeing Golden Nugget videos that I began watching that whole Utah contingent and later found my way here. Thanks for the excellent content.
Thank you, we try to be "how-to" first👍
Looking forward to the rest of the series. Keep it the same wheelbase. If 42’s can’t cure that little bit of wb difference you’re in trouble. Spend time on the rest of your needs.
I’d leave the WB where it’s at - shortening it 4” would be more trouble than it’s worth IMO. I’d love to see you bob and dovetail the bed though!
Stay with 126 the stability once you have all your gear on will be good. I have built a few fullsize rigs and it will be really good.
Good show. Looking forwards to more. OnX rocks! Love mine.
I actually have a 86 S10 4x4 that I am building that has a small block out of an 89 Camaro that I am trying to turn into a streetable off road rig so these videos are very helpful with ideas
Great idea for waiting to leave the garage after using fire. When I put up the interior walls I am going to make an area and cover the walls with cement board like for tile.
Nice job Colt, WHERE THE BLEEP IS MATT ???? GEEEEZ MAN MAKIN YOU DO ALL THE WORK !!!!! I'd just keep it at 126. I think it's gonna be badass and I don't think a couple inches is worth all that work when you could spend the time and money on something else. Thanks for the video bro.Also I think Matt should buy you a lift for your garage especially cause your doin all the work.
ive been doing s10s since 1998 . the latest one has dana 60 axles , $230 Waverspeed 4-Link Kit (amazon ) for rear , made the same kit work in front with diy brackets , 70s bronco 9inch lift coil springs , elrods limit straps , 12.00R20 XML Michelin tires on ford 20x8 rims , s&w 10 point cage , 22 gallon fuel cell in bed geting ready to drop a 383 in it with fenderwall headers
I voted for team Bleepin Jeep on the very first day of the On X challenge!! Hope you get to go to the UA Challenge!! God bless and have fun
You can vote every 12 hrs! We need the votes, thanks Allen😎👍
Man that's a clean s-10! I'm jealous!
keep the length!! Lotsa cool bed gadgets would be cool
Wagoneer leaf springs are a little longer, but the axle pin is also off center. This moves the axle closer to the front shackle. I believe the distance from the front eye to the axle pin are the same on yj and waggy springs.
love to see the s10, My first sas build was a 2 door first gen s10 blazer, dana 30 front on yj leafs and it had 31s, followed jeeps on 40s alot of places. was a good rig. Im off on ranger builds now, should be a fun truck, Id keep the wheelbase you have. in my experience for my terrain the longer wheelbase helps espesially when you can drag the frame with everything tucked up under the frame rails.
How the hell did You get stuck doin' all the work... Just like usual... ol' Mat is off playing around...LOL... Great job so far. can't wait to see the finished product...
Interesting build. I had a 1987 S-10 Blazer 2 DR. Great little truck.
Keep longer wheel base. Storage and stability. Skids will take care of the rest.
Ohh man talking about the wagoneer leaf springs reminded me of my old 1st gen Dakota build. Did wagoneer d44s, but used the old 60" chevy leaf springs.
That torsion bar tip reminds me of the duster I rebuild the front end and broke my fingers trying to get it loose great video keep up the good work God bless from GA and stay safe
Shorter wheel base. I had a single cab truck that I made into a extended cab truck but still had the wheel base of a standard cab which was 103". That was awesome for maneuvering.
Trim the seam on the gas tank and move it up 4.25" 😉, then bob as much out of the bed behind the wheel well as possible
I had a s10 in high school just like the truck your building same color and extra cab . It was 2wd but I always wanted to make 4wd your building the truck I always wanted to build . Keep up the good work and you got my vote.
Even though ours claimed 4wd it sure wasn't 4wd when we needed it, lol. Thank you for the votes, we need those too!!
I'm going to vote as many times as I can hope you beat Rudy. Keep up the good work im enjoying watching your build the truck I always wanted build
Keep the wheel base. Smoother for all the road miles on the UA.
great content Brother keep it coming
4” is the bomb.
S10 runs a vacuum switch on transfer case that once 4wd is in the linkage releases a detent on switch allowing vacuum to run threw switch back up to actuator and the cable just slides a shift fork on front diff
Suns Out Guns Out! Your wife's flex still has me grinning. 💪
Leave wheelbase as is you’ve got enough to do 👌👍
Major Woody Harrelson vibes @ 21:48 lol. Seeing that mason jar made me wonder if you just got done milking a bull 😂
KISS says leave the wheelbase alone.
My preference says move the fuel tank (maybe like a YJ rear tank??) And push the rear axle up towards to cab.
Can't WAIT to see it done
I would like to see your exhaust coming out somewhere on the hood. Where you can use a spark plug to ignite some fuel for visual flames.
Looks like it's going to be a pretty nice offroad truck. Good luck with it.
Ditch the jy springs. Find some jeep Waggoner springs. They have a 22/24 offset where as a yj spring has a 22/22 offset. They will flex better and ride alot better. Dodge Dakota springs also work great. I have personally ran them but they are soft.
I love budget build's
Move the axle up and chop the bed a short bed will look awesome.
Chevy 63” springs and move the rear diff as far forward as you can add a sm465 and a 203/205 doubler.
Well if it would work better for what your plans are for the rig!!!?? I think that I would definitely move it forward the 4” to help with off road capabilities!!!!
Looking good! Leave the wheelbase. Shorten the frame/bed.
I feel 'honored' to see these types of vids (early) as Patreon.
Colt, you're KILLING it with the build videos. I've learned so much from it so far. I vote you shorten the wheel base up some. Can't wait to see you on UA 🤘
Keep wheelbase, Bob the bed, paint orange scallops on the truck.
would love to see you on UA! hope you make it!
Hoping to see you on UA! I've followed it for years. To that end my humble suggestion is focus on getting everything built and dialed. Moving the wheelbase will suck up one or two days you could be using to chase down gremlins later on.
Leave axle in its original place but shorten the bed and maybe dove tail it inwards!! The wife has some serious 💪🏻 you better be nice to her😂😂😂
Keep wheelbase as is. Great build.
I'd leave the rear axl where it is. It'll be just fine with that length. That's what rock sliders are for.
I've been using the ziploc bag parts organization method for years........make that decades.
I wouldn't put the bed back on in the style that it is. I would flat bed it and raise it up above the wheels. Maybe a platform above the flat bed to sleep on that you could do like one of those overlanding tents.
Leave the rear axle where it is to keep your approach angle and departure angle where they will stay
Leave the rear the same, however shorten the frame up to the leaf spring shackle
I say leave the wheelbase at 126”.
Hard to say what I'd like to see without knowing all your plans. I would move the axle forward those 4" though, will help out in some high cwnter situations.
Could always go with a beam suspension 😁
Thanks!
if it becomes a problem use toyota pickup rear leafs (just the mains for the super forward center pin location) to push the axle further forward and bastard pack them with the leafs you have laying around
Wow Colt I thought might of saved those front-end parts so you could see if someone might offer you some money 💰 for them. And then could buy a few other parts for your build or for a other build in the future.
I still got em, haven't put anything up for sale yet though
Both my YJ and my old S-10 4X4 had cable actuated CAD because those stupid vacuum systems fail after a few years.
Leave the rear axle where it is!
One down fall to a YJ is the shackle being in the front and why they have a "reverse shackle kit"
Keep the 126" wheelbase
I’d definitely leave it alone on the wheel base
Nicely done. That's a lot of calculations to do to swap to leaf springs. I've always wanted to do that, but haven't been confident enough.
This is probably going to be the most interesting build of them all.
Can you put a link in the video to vote for you?
9:10 Sawzal that Torsion bar.
I really like the factory color of that S10 too bad you don't have time to give it a good clean buff and bring the paint back
Move that rear axle forward. I feel like you’ll see more benefits to that wb at 122” than any benefits left at 126”.
Dont change the wheelbase unless youre bobbing the bed.
Leave it...good job!
The wife has guns brother
Wheelbase is always a tradeoff, I would leave the rear axle where it is.
Keep it
Looks awesome colt. Your very knowledgeable on vehicles and your excellent at explaining what and why you are doing something.. and That was painful watching you tear off Robby’s sticker.
It's his motivation since I went out there, it's his turn to come up haha
Colt for the WIN!! Where's that sorry Matt?? Probably drinkin Dr Pepper somewhere i bet😂. I thought u were both building the S-10
Wheelbase will be just fine sitting on 40s it will definitely be short enough. Plus no driveshaft work to deal with. I would cut 12" off the rear frame and shorten the front of the box to tuck in the rear. Get shorter rear leafs instead of the factory long leafs . Shorten the truck itself get that departure angle
Ha! Do duallys out back and make a mini mater.
Is like to see some creative work for the cage and a slight exo cage style in the truck bed.
Longer wheelbase would never be an issue except extreme breakover. And then you just need larger tires which is why you pushed out the axles so far in the first place. Rear overhang is always the problem in trucks moving the rear axle forward is just going to make it worse. And the rear end will swing even further out than it already does. Extreme rock bouncers have their axles all the way out don't they?