[827] Disc Detainer Pick Build (Part 5) - Featuring BosnianBill
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Here are links to all videos in this series:
Part 1 - The pick body (LPL) [ • [823] Disc Detainer Pi... ]
Part 2 - The control knob (BB) [ • (1434) Disc Detainer P... ]
Part 3 - The tensioning “nose” (LPL) [ • [825] Disc Detainer Pi... ]
Part 4 - The tensioning handles (BB) [ • (1436) Disc Detainer P... ]
Part 5 - The pick tip (LPL) [ • [827] Disc Detainer Pi... ]
Part 6 - Final assembly and presentation (BB) [ • (1438) Disc Detainer P... ]
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When I saw the 10 penny nail go in the lathe, I thought “Oh, that's genius. Will it be strong enough though?” Then I noticed it wasn't a nail. Then you explained what you were *actually* using, which was even more genius.
It's awesome that both of the best lock pickers on TH-cam are doing a collab!!
Since you always accept criticism with an amazing attitude, I also want to give you a positive feedback. I started watching both your videos because one video was suggested to me randomly. I can confidently say I'm more aware about security in general and thanks to your experience and professionalism in explaining your work you inspired me to get a pick and training set and learn a new skill. thanks, a lot.
"Does this have to work? I thought it just had to look pretty!" -- This is sounding more like the product meeting for a new Masterlock lock! Hahahah :D
Well, to be fair, their products work. It'd be more like "Does this have to be secure? I thought it just had to look like it's secure!".
Thank you for sharing the “research & development” side of your creation on this video...with the “why’s and why not’s” of the other options.
Thanks for exchanging the annoying sounds in during the working process with some nice music :)
_ANNOYING?!_
Sir your words wound me!
I definitely didn't understand exchanging the sounds of something being constructed with the sounds of something different less pleasant sounding being constructed.
And so this isn't just a negative comment, I'll wrap this up by saying that I love both of your videos. Both of you have helped me tremendously in my learning process.
@@undeadpiano Thank you for your compliment! The reason I added in the misc sounds was that the gimballed camera does not record sound, so I wanted to fill the silence with something. I thought it would be funny to use shop & machine sounds that were TOTALLY disconnected to the video - just for fun. People's reactions were a bit mixed, with both likers and haters, but the people that disliked it were quite....vocal.😋 Rather than continue pissing folks off I just used some music that I own the copyright to to fill the silence. Oddly, there are almost as many people that dislike my choice of music.... 😟
You did your best to please everybody @@bosnianbill, that is what counts.
Since this is an impossible task to accomplish.
DxBlack
They weren’t the real noises just weird and random replacement sounds
Really enjoyed the collaboration and the ejector pin idea is genius...
Nice to see other picking up on the idea of using mold ejector pins as the picking tip material :) Can't go too wrong with it as like you said, it is of one piece construction, hardened/tempered and some of them have been nitrided also. Available in HSS, silver steel and hotwork steel (most bendy ones), so lots to choose from and lengths/diameters are numerous.
The music makes watching the machining process much more enjoyable. I actually watched the whole process this time.
And just through a recommendation I’m now hooked to a lock picking channel.
Same thing happened!
And now I'm ordering a kit for beginners 😁
I ordered a lock pick set from Wish to open my sons treasure chest's tri-circle padlock. He locked the keys inside, and it took me an hour to open it. It's a special skill set and these guys make it look easy.
First it was collaboration with Bill.
Now it is buying a part from other disciplines (becoming a semi finished parts for you guys.)
Congratulations guys. You guys are now making use of the whole ecosystem of technologies.
The whole project now look so simple.
I'm so glad you opted for a musical interlude in this video instead of those horrendous sound effects.
Those ejector pins are really useful, used to use them a lot in machines I used to make for the last company I worked for, they were good for setting heights of tools also, they were dirt cheap and super high quality japanese ones we'd get from a company called MISUMI
Having your own machinery (here: a lathe) to make your own picking tools is quite an advantage.
The heavy work makes you strong, the fine work bows the back and strains the eyes.
Nearly there guys. That injection moulding thingy is awesome. Nearly ready for marketing!🇦🇺✌
That is beautiful! Great Job, now if Sparrows can keep them in stock. Been picking for a while, but just getting into disc detainers. You both have taught me so much so far. Thanks
Bill called out by the Lawyer... "stop drinking so much". LOL LPL. Cheers! Chris.
Excellent line of videos, as always.
Waiting for part #5, 6, 7...
Add as many parts as you like,
We'll enjoy them.
Just please include one pertaining to:
Part "X"~ Pick tip for back of the keyway tension lock.
(Replacing the tensioning nose in "Part / video #3")
In looking at what what you have got so far, my thoughts are that you might have made the side handles too long. This is likely to make it real easy to deform the nose.
The length of the pin also seens too long. In use consider that you be applying torque to the nose then rotating the disk. The long skinny pin is going to be a spring. As soon as you reach the gate, you will loose the restraint and the spring will accelerate the disk. If ths is too fast it will catch wedging the side bar. I think the shorter the pin the less it would flex giving you a better feedback.
Haha the unironical 'you have to stop drinking so much' killed me
Very nice, looks like you have all the toys in your shop to make some great tools.
Magnificent design guys way to go.looking forward to see the finish product..next let's see it in all stainless steel so it will last for ever ....🌟⭐🌟🌟⭐
I'm sure you dont need to hear this from me, but this is really top notch entertainment.
Keep it up guys!
This is probably my favorite series on youtube, ever. You guys are an inspiration.
Cullen Lorsung - cool beard man. Bonus man card awarded. That allows you to listen to one Taylor Swift song without growing titties. Enjoy...
Engineer here. If you want cad blueprints and 3d models made just let me know.
You got any dispensers?
Please forgive me, I don't like puns but I couldn't resist
Great video guys! I just can't believe we've gotten to almost 100 comments without somebody asking for a link to the ejector pins.
Great work!
Do not forget, to name your creation.
Ejector pins are heat treated using a method called Nitriding, which gives a very hard thin skin whilst leaving the core strength of the softer internal material. The head of the ejector pin is soft to allow for machining of location features (flats or keys).
Nice work guys, can't wait to see it in action! However, drinking while building got you this far, I'd suggest keep chugging right along ;-)
Lpl I know what you meant with silver-soldering for a "couple of hours and numerous attempts" but on my last try I used Low fuming bronze 15 (or 16) brazing rod. And managing to braze it with a butan-torch. And it works really great and that was really bad brazing to.
But I love the ejection-rod tips
Love you guys! ✌️
Awesome job LPL and BB! I hope the two of you get this disc detainer pick design manufactured for sale before some Chinese company rips off your design and mass markets a cheap version of it. Incidentally, I just stumbled upon a January 7th tweet from you, LPL, showing the disc detainer body and nose as your "first project" on your new lathe, which you completed about 3 weeks ago. These videos apparently took you some time to split apart and edit for posting here on your channel. Needless to say, I'm now also following you on Twitter. Again, beautiful and inspiring work!
Love the look,looking forward to seeing it in action!
Well you both knew it was coming, I want one now.
A lot of injection mold supply houses grind custom pin sizes(including the head size). Try Precision punch in Berlin CT, Progressive components, Royal pins to name a few. They will be hesitant to grind the flats, but getting the head diameter and thickness will get you most of the way there. And as you may have guessed, the more you order the cheaper they will be. I made a disc detainer pick head out of a style B punch from Precision punch which are M2 steel and 70 rc. They take more torque than I would have guessed.
Hey I checked out there site, what do you think is the minimum quantity you'd have to order? Thanks
Since this is a one of a kind (made by 2 of the best pickers) I think you should auction this off and give the money to a charity! I bet you'd get a lot of interest (and $) for it.
When are they going to be on sale! It is beautiful! 😍
Cheers 🍻
They actually gave the design to Sparrows and they have a prototype. LPL has a video with one of the a couple weeks ago.
Yesterday :)))
I ordered 2 lol
Oh my lord, I am a Machinist and I work at an Injection Molding shop... I never realized I could make lock tools from all the Ejectors lying around.
Excellent build, job well done!
Not sure if it's in your wheelhouse, but I would absolutely love to see you two try to design a lock that meets/satisfies all of the security requirements that you think are important. Perhaps even design a lock that you can't pick.
How is it not irresponsible to share this knowledge so publicly?
Have you made two, one for each of you? It is a joy to watch an idea come fruition. Especially one made well.
Be sure to hold your "mouf rhat" when you demo that. It sure do look like a fine piece of work.
No! You teases! This is giving me Detainer Lock Picking blue balls!
you'll get it friday. (also you could have known that they only tease here, had you read the video description where all the videos are already named. (links for the released, dates for the unreleased)
@@kj231623 lmao
Looks brilliant.You two must of made this tool before. Its to good. For the 1st time.i want one.how much?
I respect Bill and his tremendous ability but I can't say I enjoy watching him on youtube
fluke196c - ... I don’t get why you’re watching him then but, k...
Father and son love !! love it !
That looks amazing.
Is there any chance of you both doing a ultimate plug follower build that makes the perfect adjustable plug follower like the HPC spring loaded version and has a hollow section for storage and has removable follower tips that unscrew?
(1 adjustable size spring loaded follower for most sizes of core with detachable interchangeable tips for every combination of plug shape with storage compartment for shims and springs and pins and is designed to easily insert a shim between the follower and the lock body and has the groove cut in to the side for pinning shoes and 1 end of it made to be a 6 pin top loading bar to insert springs and drivers into the bible with the help of a pick or pinning knife).
It is just waiting to be made by somebody skilled and everybody would want to buy 1.
:0)
Nice build.
I'm looking forward to the final episode which I presume will be a fight or duel to decide who gets to keep the final product.
that link on card...great site! very interesting colab too
The two of you should apply for a patent, awesome job on the build.
To do that the design needs to be "novel and undisclosed". They've made a six part series disclosing it on the internet, and it's based on previous existing tools...
You pair make me laugh, good on ya guys ;-)
The lockpickin' dream team right there
LOL, I can see this going down as a court case, Bill we have it mon,tues, wed LPL Thur, Fri, sat, alternative Sundays each 😂
Nice work guys!!!!
looking good!
Nice work 👍
Finally, "the pick that BosnianBill and I made" has an origin story
A.n.t.i.c.i.p.a.t.i.o.n
Now off to market the tool for the awaiting masses looking for the best disc detainer picking tool.
Impressive work
The custody arrangements for that should be easier with you being a lawyer. Maybe give bill every other weekend and 2 weeks in the summer.
Love it
We don't need to know if you have gone downstairs and then upstairs it is just great for the colab.
THX for putting music this time!
Very clever use of an item not related to locks at all.
Great pick!
I admire that people from the US use metric measurements, like in your drawing. But then you use imperial for some parts. Isn't it difficult to go back and forth between those two systems?
Looking good!
LPL's final comment was about the closest thing I've heard in real life to the "that seems fake but okay" meme!
Check out Mr.Puzzle’s 3 key padlock puzzle. Maybe even do a picking episode on it.
Nice
You gotta pick something....I'm getting the shakes without a picking session.
How did Bill go so long without drinking??
I know, 15 minutes must have seen like a year
@@kj231623 I don't find your comment funny in the least and consider it insulting to both LPL and myself. If you made this ignorant comment on my channel where I have admin rights you would be banned. Forever. It is inexcusable. EDIT: I have just reviewed several of near-identical and inappropriate sex-related comments on MY channel. You are banned. All of your comments have been deleted. Congratulations, you are one of only two people I've had to ban.
Looked like an engine valve at one point too. Maybe an idea for a hobbyist?
Did you shorten the end of the nose? If not, will the "fork" be long enough to make it through a spinner and adequately grab against the first disk? Also, what are your thoughts toward tiny crosshatched scores on the forks to help it bite into and anchor the nose in the first disc?
A body shop with a spot weld panel puller could have zapped your wire to a piece of steel that you could have finished with much less work.
I would have made it out of one piece of metal. Not knowing about those things, I would have just started with like 3/8 inch rod. Shaped the tip, and then just machined the rest of it down to 1/16. I never could understand why you would solder a tip on.
🔑🔒👀👍👍👍👍👍 ejection moulding tips. proves many a shared Idea helps many a project come together
Keeping the old timer out of trouble, I hope?
I like at 2:10 whoever is filing, is pulling the file, they only work when being pushed
At this moment, the main question I have is which one of you gets to keep the pick?
You'll have to wait until Friday when I publish the final episode to see how we worked it out.😋
Ramsets at dawn
stop drinkin? why you being mean to Bill man.
I too appreciate you getting rid of the annoying noises while machining. That made me almost stop watching this series.
why don't they build locks with 2 cores? I imagine they could make a design and thus you'd need 2 keys and it would make picking it more difficult as you'd have to pick one, and keep constant tension while picking the other.
So.... I know I'm putting the cart before the horse but... When are you going to find someone to produce a batch of these so we can buy them?
I was thinking about bicycle skewer metal for the shaft but that is so hard to machine that you basically have to ruin the temper then re harden it...
Bill , do you know when the next batch will be released?
Petition to make everyone call disc detainer disks "her". We can keep calling regular pins "him"s, because regular locks have bibles.
My reasoning is disks have 2 'holes', one for the key and one for the side bar!
i wonder if a lock is close to the doorframe would the handles not be in the way to put tention on?
Is Bosnian Bill related to Bungalow Bill from the Beatles song?
Question - is the Sparrows version's tip made this way? I bought one and it sheared off on my first pick attempt. Short of making myself, how do I get one like you've made in this video?
The Sparrows tips seem to be brazed on, I also broke one of mine. I'm a bit disappointed with this aspect, as tip durability was one of the first things mentioned in the design process. You can get ejector pins cheaply on ebay, but unfortunately the dimensions need to be some strange inch fraction units.
I am looking at making a new tip for my Chinese made detainer pick. What mm would I need to get in the ejector pin? I can only find large quantities like 2mm x 150mm for 100 pcs I only want about 3 to try it out. Would 2mm be too big? Thanks
seems like LPL's wife still doesnt know Bill is back.
More ramset videos please
Do you sell that lockpick, Mr. Marc?
I beginning to wonder if there is anything in the lock picking world you don't do well?
Where can I buy this complete tool?
Why do you think you will be able to buy it. They have literally built it over the past 5 days in LPL's basement. They are not going to just sell it to you.
@@RandomActsOfRandom I pray they release finalized schematics to the community (and that LPL draws it because we all know Bill can't).
He's a lawyer, everything's for sale - with enough money...
;)
@@eak125 😂lol, yah we saw Bill's version already.
@@RandomActsOfRandom Judge me not by my methods, but by the final result. And it is a work of art. 😀
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