(1434) Disc Detainer Pick Build (Part 2)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Look for Part 3 of this series on LockPickingLawyer's excellent TH-cam channel ( / @lockpickinglawyer ) tomorrow!
Part 1 - The pick body (LPL) [ • [823] Disc Detainer Pi... ]
Part 2 - The control knob (BB) [ • (1434) Disc Detainer P... ]
Part 3 - The tensioning “nose” (LPL) [ • [825] Disc Detainer Pi... ]
Part 4 - The tensioning handles (BB) [ • (1436) Disc Detainer P... ]
Part 5 - The pick tip (LPL) [ • [827] Disc Detainer Pi... ]
Part 6 - Final assembly and presentation (BB): • (1438) Disc Detainer P...
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lol - the sound effects caught me off guard
Then the plan, such that it is, worked...😋 I WAS going to use background music and bought the rights for several pieces, but TH-cam has a bad habit of de-monetizing and issuing copyright strikes until you appeal - which can take weeks. For these videos we decided to play it safe and use sound effects instead of the music.
@@bosnianbill I don't blame ya 1 bit. I did however have a good chuckle when I realized LPL's lathe wasn't making those awful sounds - what kind of abuse would a lathe have to go through to make such sounds? lol
Sounded like me when wake up after a hard night at the bar
Some of those required me to pause the video until my laughter settled down. Particularly the baby. Good work.
@@bosnianbillI would have preferred no artifical bg instead and let the raw machining sound picked up with mic stand for the background instead, because those sound effects were awful. During the sped up scenes, either the sped up machining sound could be used, which Actually sounds pretty well in other machining videos on youtube, or you could cut out machining sound that matches the section you are doing and apply it precisely, so even if the video part is sped up, the sound sounds pretty normal alltogether anyways.
I have a _feeling_ those were not the real sounds from your workshop!
The baby crying was.....odd......
Yeah, it was creepy!
@Luke Augustus ...i thought that it was all of the locks that the tool would pick
Happy Retirement, Bill, I hope you enjoy everything you now spend your time on, even more than we've all enjoyed you, your humour, and everything we've learnt from your many videos. Thanks for everything, have fun.
The crappy tools available have thus far deterred me from attempting disc detainers. This looks promising and I’d love to see someone mass produce this. You two are the best thing on TH-cam imo and a collaboration like this should be noted by all makers of tools in the trade.
I've done some machining and it never sounded like this!!! That must be the sounds the two of you imagined from all the booze!
Today on "This Old Bosnian Lawyer"
This Old Bosnian Lawyer is too long-winded. How about TOBLerone?
Bill clearly had way too much fun putting this video together. I love it xD
Excellent work guys, don't worry about going through a lot of metal (or whiskey) both just mean progress is being made! definitely think these should be mass produced.. Sparrows is great at teaming up with folks to produce cool tools... hope they are watching!
Question - Restock what? Brass or whiskey? Answer - Yes
Hello from Canada , I took "LockPickingLawer" advice and joined your channel ...you guys are great and thank you for sharing !
Some Chinese company will bring out a suspiciously similar pick before you even finish this series 😂👍🏻🤪
even NBA shoes are made in China
Ouch!
A thing of beauty is a joy for ever. In my head , I am seeing a range of interchangeable tips , is that in the master plan ?
Your background noise is quite distracting!
Volume control = 0 solves that.
If you two are ever in the mood for more machining antics, head on over to This Old Tony's channel. Definitely one of the best channels on TH-cam.
Very nice machine work! Nice to see you two working together again.
You can make the nose out of brass since it is a prototype, and once you have a design that you like and works then make one out of a more durable metal.
I guess we'll see tomorrow, when LPL publishes the NEXT installment...(shameless teaser). 😋
Man, that’s beautiful! Must be nice to have the milling tools to do this.
You could make some money making and selling these if all works out. And the sound effects were awesome!
WOW i enjoyed watching the process of making that small piece..U guys Are good. cant wait till next part
Omg the sound effects, lol. At first I was like, “that shouldn’t be making that sound”, then hammering? “Why would they be hammering on it while it’s, ok the baby cry, ya got me”
Love seeing this come together!
Bill, I'm now subscribed! You guys are amazing together!
Hope you are making two , if it comes to a custody battle I think LPL will get the better deal.
Awesome job guys! Your really impressing me. Amazing what two minds and a jug can do.
Send it to sparrows to manufacture cheaply enough to supply the universe
I come from the future to tell you this project is finished today
I come from the future future future to tell you it sold out immediately and just went back on sale last week :) holy moly is it a great selling product
I have come back in time from 2021 to tell you they did it and the picks are awesome!
The build montage tripped me out, great sound mixing.
Nice work Bill and LPL!
Need to get sparrows to mass produce this tool so we all can have one in our kits, unlike the cheaper ones that barely work and break the tip on.
I like the added industrial soundfx lol
you were ahead of your time
@@sapphicaswell9066 dont have to be blind to see it coming lol.
Especially how locknoob has designed a bunch of tools which sparrows released.
Great video guys,love seeing the thought processes behind this build,audios great also!
I've been waiting for this second part! It felt like forever!
My personal opinion on the cap, is that I think it would feel better and more high quality, if the cap/handle was made tighter. I think it flops around too much currently. I do understand its important that it doesn't rub against the cylinder due to imperfections in fastening the actual pick into the cap handle, but I think such things can be perfected by making an indent in the pick, that the set screw will center on, and thus the pick will be 100% centered in the cap handle, thus you can have it pretty precise Close to the cylinder.
I hear you, and the design is not nearly as slapped together as we imply. We did experiment with a tighter cap. We found that when the tolerances between the cap and body were tighter they drag against each other in varying amounts based on how much tension you have on the lock, and how much torque you are putting on the disk. In most cases, even with light to moderate tension, the feedback was dampened to a significant degree, negating any benefits of having a new pick. This happens because the cap is supported only at one end, where the wire is held in place with the two grub screws. Even with flats (yes, we did that too), the cap cannot have tight tolerances. We experimented with lithium grease too, but is still bound up and had the added benefit of making a complete mess of everything. Lastly, we did a prototype with a ball bearing raceway (from a spinner), but it also had problems with binding and centering. The design may not be perfect, but it is the best we can do while still keeping the manufacturing time and cost reasonable.
I totally understand and makes perfect sense. 😎
I'm more interested in wether it will hit the market or not, looks "too" good to be a lock picking tool!!
Bill breaking out the lube like a gentleman.
I thought the sound effects were creative and humorous. I'm watching this video for the second time after a couple weeks and I wonder if a lot of time and money could be saved by using some old quarter inch audio guitar cable connectors. They already have a hole that could be utilized they're already knurled and about the right size. Just a goofy thought.
Christ, I turned my back for a second and suddenly a horror movie is playing.
This stuff is so fantastic. I love you guys and your amazing work!
The ambience got real Dark Souls/Bloodborne for a biut there
Just glad you guys are doing more collaborative videos!
As a former toolmaker, let me say, the ideal clearance would be 0.05-0.10mm overall (0.002"-0.004"), and knurl BEFORE you finish hole sizes.
Again beautiful job and again I'm so jealous of your tools budget
This is a bit off the subject, but you usually respond to inquiries, so I have a burning question this morning.
As a property management handyman, I would like advice of what you do when you walk up to a strange door lock and then... a strange padlock on a iron gate. I do a couple of rent house evictions a month from my base of 600 rent houses. Like today, I'm headed to change locks on a house a renter abandoned but left a lot of stuff there. Often means he'll try to sneak back in or give his key to someone.
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Here's what I do. First I try a regular snap gun. a Snap Gun works better for me than a bump key. Opens about 50-60% of residential doors. No dice? Then I try my Bogota, City, and a favorite homemade rake key. Still no? Then, I try my favorite oversize (.153 tall) half diamond. It is sorta a rake/pick combo. Usually I can at least get a false set to go from or can pick completely open. Still no? Then, I am finally reduced to standard SPP. Finally. If all above fails, I start destructive entry with my drill or diamond blade cordless grinder. On iron gate padlocks, I just quickly cut the chain, cable, or shackle. I like my cordless Dremel with a diamond cut off blade for the padlock removal. - ( Note: On the residential door locks; most of them have 2 or 3 spool pins but nothing fancier, that I've ever found).
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I'd be interested to know what process you would use. We are not all SPP guys but use our lock talent, tools and techniques for our jobs. I'd like to get better, smarter, and faster about the process of non-key entry and share it with my Handyman community.
Thanks Bill
Your approach sounds almost exactly like mine. Instead of the snap gun I use a Kronos, and instead of the dremel I use a Makita 18v die grinder.
Try a size 10 master key or a skeleton brick.
i think you should be doing better than 60% with the snap pick in the locks you describe, my advice is that you practice the snap pick til you can hit closer to 90%. and i'll share with you the advice given to me when i started: 90-95% of the locks that you can pick you can pick with just a lifter (hook) and tension tool. the lifter is still by far my most used pick. it rakes, zips bitchpicks and spp's .
A little Pink Floyd feeling.. Nice video !
I don't normally really like sound effects, but I really and truly enjoyed the comedic flair it afforded here. Fantastic! ;)
Dude the sound effects were on point my dude. All of those were awesome to listen to.
You woke up the baby! This is what happens when we let Bill have friends over.
Very nice cooperation !! Anxious to see the results !!!
Nice stuff that whiskey doing a great job 😜
Congratulations and happy wishes in you retirement, @BosnianBill !
Happy retirement Bill, sad to see you leave but totally understand your decision.
Take my money.... who do I send it to?🤔 I want that one though as I won't get a Paclock prototype.🍺😎
Dido!
Man I'd love to get one of these from you guys when you have a finished product... Iv been looking for a good disc detainer pick for a long time and you guys know best what we are looking for in a pick. Are you guys thinking about selling them?
Sapphi Caswell not to good they have been sold out since the 8th of this month
Even better news by now 😁
Christmas Lore still sold out ... as with everything else I try to purchase as of late...
@@MrRuddy951 , they're late because of covid, but they were producing a second batch, so let's keep hope 🎋
So are the mass production plans being made off camera?
love the random sound effects.
Enjoy y'all this brainstorming from the poor picker
Love this series a colab of greatness!
Bloody great gents... Looking forward to next video ;o))))
Love the machining sounds
If those set screws don't hold the wire very well, a compression setting might be another way to secure it.
You guys work well together, and you are funny, ìm sure there is some kind of script to your veidos,but it's funny. Thanks for sharing your umor and a great design
I feel a kickstarter coming. And yes.. I want one.
I was surprised that Bill would have such similar art skills to myself.
Nice work of you both. 👍
Coming out great!
Excellent work gents
still excited about the new tool.
Nice...Weekend Start clip!
It's TRUE most disc detainer picks sucks and most lock pickers are deterred because of the picking equipment available that we can afford.
Man I hate it when the shop baby starts crying right as Im reaming a hole... so annoying. But no shop would be complete without the shop baby!
Have you considered collaborating with the TH-camr "This Old Tony" on projects like this? He's done some other joint projects on here.
Collaborative videos are a lot of fun, but can be REALLY time-consuming. The big plus for this one is that LPL lives less than 20 miles from me, making it pretty easy for us to get together. I have no idea where "This Old Tony" lives, but that would be a big determining factor for both of us.
@@bosnianbill Living in the UK, I've no idea where This Old Tony lives relative to you, but he has collaborated with two other Toutubers, "
Alex French Guy Cooking", rebuilding his pasta machine and a Swedish Musician (Wintergatan) currently working in France on a complicated musical instrument. Both of these were long distance projects. And he occasionally loves to use odd sound effects!
Lookin good, guys 😉👍
Im wonder how long its gonna take for Sparrows or Peterson to patent this design, and take credit. They better give you guys royalties if they do.
I like these videos more of them would be Awesome!
Love the sound effects
Great job and video
I hope you guys are able to monetize this partnership enough that an empire ensues.
Wow. Amazing.
I think you missed a good thing by making the barrel too sloppy fitting. Because it's brass there is no problem with making a snug fit. Even a small amount of rubbing with crocus cloth can adjust the fit.
Should try some winter jack
Send some, we'll give it a try! 😋
Judging by the good scotch in the previous episode, I would hazard to guess their tastes are more, shall we say.. civilized?
@@jcprov9481 scotch is a very acute, acquired taste. I never liked it myself. I prefer bourbon, rye, or spur mash whiskey
Could you make the body length longer at the nose and use the set screws to adjust the nose length ?
im drunk and the SFX had me tripping
I have been making my own picks, cant buy picks here in Canada unless a locksmith ....
I'm watching this video but yet it's not even on Bills channel right now (1434)
Would much rather hear the machines running hahaha
You guys know I'm gonna wanna buy one of these right?
Impressive!
For some reason I don't see this on your channel listing. I found it from LPL's link on Part 3, but not sure how else I'd find it. The numbers go from 1433 to 1435.
I thing You guys should have included Stuff made here.
To make the blue prints.
You guys are going to patent some of this stuff, right?
When will sparrows release the second batch?!?!
Lookeen gud.
Now I dont hear any of them fart sounds or mad max noises in my machine shop!
That is fucking beautiful...
Great video guys I can't stop laughing.😎
I've got to wait again? OK, want to see this badly. Hope you make some to giveaway or sell.
Well, we DO have a plan but you'll have to wait for the final videl (#6) to see what it is...you won't be disappointed. What I CAN tell you is that we will not be making any ourselves to give away or sell... They take roughly 20 hours EACH to manually machine and put together. Since LPL is a lawyer and I am a Mechanical Engineer, I cannot even GUESS what we'd have to charge for one...
@@bosnianbill OK, had no idea that long. Yes I'm patiently awaiting. Sort of, kinda. LOL!!!! Thanks for the quick reply.
@@bosnianbill 20 hours to make? Does that include the drawing phase and the pieces that are messed up before the final pieces we see?
Love the sound effects! I think these have been the best videos the two of you have ever done - I hope there'll be more. How about the two of you get together to create the best lock you can come up with?
My guy why does your shop sound like a David lynch film
Please skip the sound effects next time 😘
And replace it with....? My gimbaled camera does not record sound. If I use music, even music that I've bought the rights to, TH-cam will de-monetize the video and give me a copyright strike until I go through their painful, and several-weeks-long appeal process. I'm kind of between a rock and a hard place...
@@bosnianbill 😕 Ugh, that's even with the "free music" available in the TH-cam editor? That's LAME. Personally, I'd most prefer you to do a voice over/narration, but I'm just one guy and it's not even that big of a deal. I'd still watch if you did 5 minutes of "nails on a chalkboard" as the background effect. I didn't mean to seem ungrateful.
Hey guys the alcohol ain't helping like it used to..... one huge question what the hell is supposed to keep the pic bar (middle bar) stable?? It's going to be hard to keep that bar from warping with all that extra room in the tool.
The picking tip itself? That's encased by the body, which is not hollow, and held by screws at the back. The nose is held by the screw handles.
As for warp prevention, honestly that's just a workplace hazard. Picks bend and break regularly, that's just part of life.
You do nice metalwork. But there must be something wrong with your lathe! None of my lathes makes noises like that. But i wish they did. ;-
The sound affects are super annoying. Please don't do that again.
Lmao i enjoyed it
Theres not as many comments here as there are on LPL’s videos
Strange hearing the two of you on the same vid...